Holy crap that is insane!!!

First thing I do when I get home from the range is reload all my mags.

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Never had an issue in my life with a pmag.

@@trippie_fabio3181 That's great buddy, I must have gotten some duds...

You don’t need the dust cover. My gen 2 pmags I bought in 2010 have never cracked and have been flawless. I keep them loaded all the time. I go to the range and when I’m back home I load them to 30 rounds. Still intact after 13 years.

@@whitefx2 good for you. I on the other hand had issues with pmags and that dust cover was a solution for me, could there be other solutions? Maybe, but that's what I found.

Pmags are def the standard!

People don't realize how Length sensitive a lot of 308 ar mags are!

Its especially important if you train to do reloads when possible as opposed to when you are out its smart to make sure you only load 30 rounds as opposed to 31- or even 29- depending on the mag.

AWESOME!!! IM GLAD TO HEAR IT!

Interesting!!!

Winner winner chicken dinner!

Yep with the two pocket sides for stripper clips ammo and the nice touch wooden oval latch retainers. They still used this up until they copied all of our stuff in the mid 90's. flip it over you can read the Manu factory stamps where it was made, 56 (common issue to NVA was in Beijing)

The 20's are cool! I want a few myself!

GI 20rd mags are aluminum not steel.

True

Thinking of replacing all my Amend2 Mod 2 mags with Gen 3 Magpuls.

I hear a lot about the okay industries, ill have to give them a shot.

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Okay Industries is a USGI manufacturer the US military purchases (or purchased) from along with D&H and some others.

1970s 20 rounders!? Haha that sounds awesome!

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors 2nd Ranger Battalion 1975-1980

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I still have them with M1965 4 mag pouches. Colt manu with metal followers.

I could prob do that, shoot me an email at thepreppersbunkeroutdoors@gmail.com

Are you in chicago because we don’t have a mag capacity limits in illinois to my knowledge

We first tested some polymers in the beginning of the 90's right after coming back from Desert Storm some were extremely bad, cracked feed lips, feed problems in cold weather. It really turned me off being stuck with them in a combat situation. Many bugs got worked out in Iraq fun part 2. I would rather run GI spec but do play with a few ploys just for the cause. Some companies though I would stay away from.

Illinois don't have a capacity band unless you live in Chicago. I live in cook county I can still get 30 round magazines no problem just got to shop around a little, some places don't like shipping to Illinois.

@@GeneralJameson cook/crook county sucks. i was at rural king in Indiana Saturday getting cheap ammo and watched a lady get approved for a gun in 3 seconds. walked right out with it. where do u shoot at? im trying to find a good outdoor range before winter

@@flawless1up Buffalo Range in Ottawa is awesome and is also open year round. For indoor I have been going to Shoot Point Blank.

The USMC didn't adopt pmags for 2 weeks- they adopted them for years. Thanks for sharing the stupid though, wouldn't want you to mislead people without first warning them of your intelligence level.

Depends on whether or not the follower is the problem

I have wet pouches for 10 hours, worn them in the field, AND cut them and still had issues. ESPECIALLY with the trash tango down mags. All is a silly word to use.

Ok

I totally agree about buying service mags IF! a person knows what to look for. Most of my viewers won't know how to look at service mags and decide if the feed lips are good or if the bodies might be damaged. I KIND of know- but I have been wrong twice before on what I thought would be good mags. So as a general rule I would suggest avoiding doing that- but I do it myself. You have to find service mags REALLY cheap, or else if you get it wrong a few times like I did you might not actually be saving any $. Fwiw- i believe if you do some research you will find that rotating, loading, and unloading mags will wear them faster. Ymmv. I dont care enough to start a fight over it lol Thanks for the comment.

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors fwiw, I keep 4 mags loaded for 3 months at a time, then they don’t see stress for another year. I don’t get many opportunities to shoot (I live in a big city) so the loaded ones generally just sit loaded until it’s time to rotate. But in any event, I can’t say definitively whether constant compression will damage magazines, so I’m not trying to say your way is wrong. I just have my way of doing things, that’s all. Keep up the good work man.

Staying loaded / compressed doesn't stress the springs. The number of compression / decompression cycles wears out springs. So loading them and unloading them every so often, just to "give them a rest", vs leaving them loaded, is actually harder on the springs. We're probably only talking about an extra 4 to 6 cycles a year, so that's not really a big deal in the scheme of things. But don't worry about leaving them loaded for years at a time. If you have a couple of thousand rounds set back, I don't think that you need them all in mags. I would agree that any prepper worth their salt should have a full combat load in loaded mags for each rifle they have. Plus you probably want another full set of mags to practice with. Showing up to training with them already loaded is a must. Other than that, I find storing extra ammo in the factory packaging, or in sealed ammo boxes more convenient than storing loaded mags. It also makes it easier for me personally to try to shoot my oldest ammo first in training. Twice I've "lent" ammo to folks for training. They paid me back w new ammo they obtained shortly after the training. Having it in factory boxes was more convenient. That's one of those KZfaq " Yeah but stories ". It probably won't happen to many folks. But just sharing. I have a variety of different mags, including rebuilt GI mags, and even some that are stamped Law Enforcement Only that I bought after the Clinton gun ban expired. Metal mags fit into most pouches better, and it's often possible to load 2 mags per pouch, which I like. And they are very easy to pull out for a reload. They also store in a marginally smaller space. Plastic eventuality breaks down with age and heat. So if you're prepping to pass stuff to your kids and grandkids, maybe you'll want to throw some metal mags into the plan, just in case. I use Pmags for my hunting rifles because they are more silent when carried loosely in a backpack, plus that is the only time I use those little covers they come with. Brownells has a supply contract with one of the branches of the military. I forget which one. But their metal mags often go on sale and they have worked well for me. Be sure and test every mag that you buy. Even the ones that you plan to rathole away. You want to know for sure that they'll work if you pull them out 5, 10, or 20 years from now.

@@yellowdog762jb I actually now have enough mags such that the ones I have in rotation 3 months at a time only compress/decompress every 3 years. So it’s only an added cycle every 3 years. I have something like 60 and will probably buy more. Longevity by volume is my philosophy.

@@nicknaylor9895 Awesome!

I have heard great things about the okay industries e2! I def want to get a few.

yes they are awesome mags. Botach.com new with magpul followers go $10.00

@@racamp4467 NICE!!!

@@racamp4467 the ones with magpul followers aren't the new e2 mags.. the e2's do have a nice antitilt follower though. I actually like the original style non-e2 okay usgi mags, now sold with magpul followers better tho. They're both the same price usually,.

@@muddyhotdog4103 yes. I usually buy mine from Botach.com they are always 9.99 or 11.99 depending on which one you get. as for pmags I buy those locally for 10 bucks.

Never buy anything Troy- they are the enemy

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Really? Good to know.

I havent tried them, but i would be wary- lmk how it goes for you. Test them hard, because many mags will be reliable out of the box for a good while- but then when they are loaded for a long time and exposed to dirt and extreme heat they become literal trash. I like to order in bulk online, yeah. The source always varies.

I used to agree- now I don't. In fact I can't think of any long term application where I would choose anything else. Took me a long time and a lot of training to come around though.

I don't know about the pmags and the feed lips by generation, maybe the first gen ones from like 2009 might have an issue but modern ones should be g2g. The colt mags in new condition updates like you said are g2g but if your buying them used a lot of times they are beat to hell at which point they aren't worth the upgrade due to micro fracturing etc

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Most of the pmags I have had issues with were Gen2 and Gen3 mags. The Gen3 mags aren't as bad, but will still throw 2 or 3 rounds if dropped fully loaded even when brand new. I tend to buy the Teflon coated aluminum mags from BCM for around $11/each when I want something reliable, the lancer ones are okay, I have a couple military buddies and a couple Grand Master USPSA buddies that have said to not trust lancer for duty use. (I have realized that the pmag magazines for the AUG are the best on the market, which is in contrast to the ar-15 ones)

@Simply709 I have never had a fully loaded pmag drop rounds when fully loaded of any gen- in Afghanistan, in classes, or here. I'll go out today with my older pmags that have been fully loaded for a few years and see.

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I'd be curious to see what your results are, I know I've had it happen on multiple instances, and have seen videos of it happening to other people aswell as during training. It (usually) doesn't permanently damage the magazine, but when dropped either out of the firearm or just vertically onto a hard surface, it often results in a few rounds being ejected from the magazine.

@@Simply709 I'll check it out. I know I had MASSIVE issues with the mft mags. Those mags are so bad I'm shocked that they are still on the market.

Good to know! Thats a shame to hear about iwi!

The IWI Orlites are good for a range mag. Pre Magpul polymer.

I dont- they dont go in and out of mag pouches as easily as magpuls- they are a tad bigger, so i traded them. They are excellent mags though! I have a bunch of OLD Okay industries mags haha

I have been using the Fab Defense single mag pouch as a grab and go and tgey fit fone in there. I have also been running them in the Esstac mag pouches. Esstac are my go to mag pouches. I do have the old milsurp three shingle pouch that hold 6 mags witch are also great.

Any particular reason you prefer Okay's E2 over their Surefeed? Thanks.

Not specifically no

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Cool. I'm going to give them a try...Thanks for your reply!

@@jasonroberts9357 my pleasure!

I dont make a 1 point or a 2 point convertible sling- But my 2 point speed sling works similar to a one point sling- except one that works well. All the transition speed and ease without any of the retention issues.

Score

Just spray paint, dont worry about the baseplate, you cant paint it shut

Ar308 mags are very dependent on which ar308 they are in. There are 2 ar308 magwells, ar10 and sr25 or dpms pattern. Im not up to speed on ar10 magwell magazines but i think they are a thing of the past for the most part.

Thats true of EVERYTHING in the military.

Right on! I totally agree!

Brownells has the m3 and the lancer on sale for $13 right now. Thats a good deal on M2's!

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Botach has lancers for $12 for the black opaque and smoke for $15

Brownells

Yeah, arent those the lancer mags i posted in the video?

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors yea. I'm researching which mags to buy before their gone.

Smart man! I would grab up all the magpul, lancer, and aluminum mags i could get!

I do not

@Joe-ie8vk I don't necessarily disagree with you but I do have 1 caveat to add- The civilian fighting for a community or without military support is 10x harder on gear than a soldier. I guarantee and promise this is true and I have seen it- when you have no resupply, less training, less support, less backup- You become more desperate and stuff HAS to last longer. I didn't need to add that but maybe it'll help with perspective.

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors no that’s good point and I don’t wanna say I overlooked that but maybe didn’t give it as much Thought as I should have no resupply no armor to fix something that breaks. I have extra parts for my rifle gas tube upper and lower parts kits that kinda stuff a couple dozen mags. But I’m probably still underestimating the whole on my own. Dig your channel man good advice thanks.

@@Joe-ie8vk my pleasure!

Suppose to be an upgrade.

There is a difference between cheap amd affordable that you should look up

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors just bought a dozen for $6.50 each. Cheap and affordable. Works great. There are cheap ones out there, works as good if not better than some of the big name ones like lancer.

@@masterxiong7368 again there is a difference between cheap and affordable- but thanks for telling us you dont train or have serious intentions for your toys. 👌🏻

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors again I say, dude I love cheap mags so long as they function as it should. Lol bruh you playing semantics now. Chill

My first comment stated that you should understand the difference between cheap and affordable because that is what the video is about. If you cant figure that out how do you expect people to believe that you are a good judge of whether or not a mag functions "as it should"?

Enough to make it smooth? Probably. Just enough to soften the texture? Probably not.

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors and more labor intensive also.

I have heard too much about hexmags and amend2 to touch em with a 10ft pole. Unless i can no longer buy pmags 🤷‍♂️

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Hweird . I've had only good experiences with them.

Might as well have been

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Perhaps a Modern AR 15 would be a better weapon to have vs an M16A1. The M16A2 was a reliable rifle. My only complaint is the 3rd burst not cycling completely and hanging up on #2 then only getting a single shot the next time I fired and expecting a burst.

@juliemunoz2762 the only difference is 3 round burst or full auto. As a general rule only pogs on the range used either anyways. Your socom dudes, rangers, infantryman, etc only use semi auto. So the difference between an m16, m4, and ar15 is one of semantics and psyops

That says more about you than me 👌🏻👏🏻

LOL

I never thought about it but a yankee swap of guns would be a great idea...

If you can try to sell them to fellow patriots. They are coming after our guns because they are afraid of an armed citizen protecting their rights.

what? come out on my boat, we might have an accident and "lose" our guns though

Defensive firearms- absolutely.

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors All of my firearms are defensive arms. Lol even my shotguns...Birds were attacking deer was rushing ...pew pew... My "uncle" went to the range with his 9 and had a good ol day plinking. Got home and did what he should have and was preparing to clean it. He slid his hand over the barrel while trying to rack the slide and some how shot a hole in the meat of his hand. He broke the golden rule....Always make sure your firearms are clear before you leave the range...Luckily for him he gets a second chance to get it right. 🤣🤣 I follow two rules. My arms are always checked clear before and after use and I keep my booger hook off the bang switch until I'm ready to pew pew. Unless its my truck gun or in my house in which case those are ready to full send at the drop of a hat.

There are 4 firearms rules, if you follow them, nobody gets shot. 0 chance that ill show up to a range unloaded, and 0 chance ill leave unloaded. Clean guns in the safe are unloaded though, because there is no chance that ill need to grab them and use them quickly.

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors My mags will be loaded in both instances but nothing chambered. I think it i stepped out on the range without my breach open, showing clear, the range master would kick me out. For what purpose do you leave a round chambered when handling or demonstrating a firearm? Would you hand it off to an amateur shooter while chambered? You didn't specify your 4 rules. Were you in the military?

All guns are loaded until you physically pick it up and check to see if its unloaded. Then check again. If you still think there is a one in a billion chance it is loaded, check a third time. Only then do you perform any manipulation of it, dry fire, etc. The second you set it down, look away from it, get distracted, or in any way turn your attention from it, it immediately becomes loaded again.

I think duramags have a good rep, although i think the new ones have all kinds of gaudy annoying jimping. Arent duramags made by okay industries?

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors no they are made by C Products Defense

@@BurtMegaming oh! Yeah c products is g2g

Is that the only issued Armalite Rifle pattern firearms that you know about? Is that what you came here to brag about, is the fact that you know the designation of 2 current issue AR rifles?

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors nope not at all just curious as to details ....I thought your rifles in the video were cool and a pretty good video altogether . relax iam just sure iam on your side , long live the republic

I gotcha- Long live the republic, if we can keep it!

My comment is people should work on the discipline needed to pay attention- This video isn't promoting expensive mags.

Really? Who made them? Should be stamped on the baseplate. I can probably find out if they say psa. Why are they junk?