Don't Listen to Tournaments | Models and Memories Weekly #42

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2 жыл бұрын

In this episode of Model and Memories Jay talks about the problem with tournament statistics, what he worked on this week and he ends the episode with a story! We have new videos every Monday, Wednesday and Friday! We're streaming Monday-Saturday starting at 9PM CST!! JOIN USSSS! Thanks for watching!
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@kothe999
@kothe999 2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see battleeports on your channel… i hope you give the models themselves a loooot of screentime - for me thats always the most interesting part: looking at marvelous paintjobs and through that finding inspiration to paint 😁
@rubeniscool
@rubeniscool 2 жыл бұрын
I go for thematic armies, both in 40k, WHFB and now AoS and I've only won 1 battle in my 21 years of playing. But honestly, from an RP perspective it's hilarious and just fun. How else could my Empire General be nicknamed "Stumpy"? I built my army around a central theme, got it as close to lore as possible (a Hochlander rifle regiment with Nuln artillery detachment) and just went to war. Then converted my General to the point where he ended up with two peglegs, a hook for a hand and an eyepatch by the end of a campaign :P Honestly whenever I see Warhammer on Social Media it's all about "does this list look good?" "Which unit should I take, I like X but have heard Y do it better", basically just a ton of min maxing and I'm just there like.. Are you guys actually having fun? Because it doesn't really sound like it lol Don't get me wrong, if that's your thing then awesome, you are getting something out of the hobby.. but at the end of the day I just get this feeling that people talk about stats and winning strategies so much that it sometimes feels like they're overlooking the themes and the factions and even minis to the point where you could just give them an excel sheet with just numbers and they'd be fine lol I dunno, all I know is that if I focused on winning to the point where I see some people do, It would just get boring very fast. Because at that point it really is just a numbers game. But you do you everybody :)
@SlyLilFoxo
@SlyLilFoxo 2 жыл бұрын
Playing to win is fun in itself. Treating the game like a board game isn't bad. But I do agree. I'm much more interested in interesting minis and kitbashing stuff I like. I'm far more interested in mashing up canonical characters that don't have models or adding little bits to something to give it a bit more life. It's interesting trying to put your own flavour on a character you're making lore accurate.
@Direwoof
@Direwoof Жыл бұрын
tahts epic, i wish there were more ppl like yu in teh hobby.
@gordonross3270
@gordonross3270 Жыл бұрын
Most people pick the army that they like the feel of, the lore, the look, and then attempt to build the best army within their play style, which is perfect to me, I can't imagine how I'd feel if I won a game and then my opponent said "oh yeah, I made my army bad on purpose because I care more about fun." Like wow, thanks for making feel like this game was pointless.
@rubeniscool
@rubeniscool Жыл бұрын
@@gordonross3270 I wouldn't go so far as to say the army was bad on purpose, my complaint was regarding the seemingly large numbers of players who go ultra competitive ie checking which armies tend to skew better in tournaments etc, favouring certain units over others based on pure minutiae etc Like.. I always tried to win and many of my losses were on technicalities where yup, my bad, should have been paying more attention. Most of my losses were admittedly really, really close but just not *quite* enough. I'm not saying people shouldn't try, I'm saying that at a certain point you get the feeling that there are plenty of people out there who are just purely out to win based on statistics and numbers. Like I've definitely met people who chose their army based on how well it did in a previous official tournament. The tournament meta crowd is definitely a significant segment of the GW fan base.
@gordonross3270
@gordonross3270 Жыл бұрын
@@rubeniscool I guess it's just differences in environment. I've personally never met anyone who has an army specifically because of it's tournament statistics. But I've also never gone to a GT or similar large tournament, so maybe I've just surrounded myself with casuals, haha.
@deathmachine777
@deathmachine777 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you taking time to think through your commentary in these videos.
@donc.7465
@donc.7465 2 жыл бұрын
I love the resolutions that say "Finish my ten-year backlog of miniatures." 😄 I just got back into 40k after 30 years (haven't played since high school). Picked up the Command Edition starter box last summer. Then got excited about Kill Team when Octarius came out, so got that too. Love Orks, so got a Combat Patrol of Orks. Then Battleforce boxes came out at Christmas...got three of those to add to my Space Marines, Necrons, and Orks... uh oh. I may have a problem. 😲 Was feeling overwhelmed for a while, so I've decided to start with the starter box forces, beginning with the Necron warriors. I'd like to get the starter box finished so I can play some small games with my friends (who are interested to play, but don't want to paint). Then I'll tackle the Octarius box so we can start playing that too. Then I can chip away at the other boxes, adding forces a squad at a time. Also I resolve to get my own KZfaq channel up and running!
@Marshallo.o
@Marshallo.o 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds just like me (stopped playing 25 odd years ago! Only thing i can add, is get an airbrush, its such a time saver for basecoats and when you get better, blending/highlights and lots of other funky stuff!
@adampogatshnik6833
@adampogatshnik6833 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great message. I play Imperial Fists, which are the lowest of the low for Space Marine Chapters at tournaments. You see them down at the bottom next to the other worst performing armies. But you know what? I love them, they look great, they're by far the best looking army that I've ever painted, and I have fun with them. What's more, I do still win games. I probably win over 50%, because like you said I don't have to beat the top tier tournament lists, I just have to beat my buddies.
@kallsing
@kallsing 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you mark down and talk about your favorite moments or dialogue from the horus heresy books on this show. It doesn't have to be a lore show just some dope moments 👌
@Scooge666
@Scooge666 2 жыл бұрын
Nice hitchhikers guide reference 👍
@thepenguin2859
@thepenguin2859 2 жыл бұрын
5:47 FOR NOW “evil laugh”
@bugnazbinnyking1198
@bugnazbinnyking1198 2 жыл бұрын
I listened to the first three Horus Heresy audiobooks over and over (and still do). Even after I finally locked in the sequence of events, I kept playing them through. I found that once I was familiar with the who and the where etc, I started to notice other details and elements of the story telling. There is so much going on and Toby Longworth does such a good job with the pace by bringing gravity to each sentence and of portraying these Demi-Gods with such gravitas ✨
@goralein
@goralein 2 жыл бұрын
Currently Germany is pretty f***** up by Omicron and I think 2022 is the same mess as 2021. So I decided to gear up and get a proper Airbrush. After restructuring my office and hobby room, I want to finish my ultramarines and some minis for D&D...
@Chuckn0rris5555
@Chuckn0rris5555 2 жыл бұрын
An Adeptus Ridiculous mention on Eons of Battle. My 2 favorite Warhammer content creators. This truly is the multiverese.
@kais2169
@kais2169 2 жыл бұрын
Your opinion on tournaments is 100% my own. Me and my friends love to play competitively in our own sense. That means playing a diverse list that could actually resemble a slightly more real army compared to like, 100 of 1 unit and a commander. We focus more on tactics and strategy rather than the meta and cheesing our fights.
@DragonuFear
@DragonuFear 2 жыл бұрын
I feel you're somewhat right about the tournaments and strength of armies, as yes a code is often carried by just a few strong units spammed in a specific faction. But some armies are legitimately really bad across the board right now without doing weird combos like chaos marines, who struggle to pull any wins ever against my friend group's 9th edition books, similar for guard as well. A lot of the older books from 8th have been left high and dry with overcosted stuff for their whole army so they end up fielding less numerous and less powerful units which can make even casual games unfun to balance. Also in regard to new games I've personally been looking at dropfleet commander recently so figured I'd suggest maybe taking a look over there however unlikely it is to happen. It has really cool spaceship models and I'm expecting a box set to arrive soon that I'm excited to try painting up
@Unforgivable43
@Unforgivable43 2 жыл бұрын
It's not the video the internet wanted, but it's the one it needed. Thanks Jay.
@walkerawhite4698
@walkerawhite4698 2 жыл бұрын
The meta used to be about how people played for fun, but now its about min-maxing based on tournament stats. I hope we can return to a fun space again, at least as a community. Tourneys are cool, but social media keeps elevating the worst parts of everything.
@piotrjeske4599
@piotrjeske4599 2 жыл бұрын
In my country people always picked the power choices. People earn too low salaries to spend a ton of money on something that will lose all the time. And this is with a large chunk of our models being recasts. Our recasters got so big and made so much money, that does from the 90s now have legitimate companies making 3ed party models.
@doctordoubledakka3939
@doctordoubledakka3939 2 жыл бұрын
Tournaments are still a useful tool to see what models are tuned too well. Balances changes are nice when they address "problematic" models. Playing "bad" armies is tight, its a serious flex when an obvious underdog defeats a run-away-silly powerful uncontested champion.
@Huckleberry_Sid
@Huckleberry_Sid 2 жыл бұрын
Love this! One of my biggest issues with the tournament meta focus is that often those looking at the results only show you the list, not how it was actually played on the tabletop. I can take that list and play against my friends, but that doesn't mean I'll actually win based on that alone. More often than not it takes me 3 or 4 games before I start to see how a list actually works on the tabletop for me. While I think tournaments are interesting, and the analysis of them, I think some folks are too laser focused on that instead of just having fun playing the game.
@GreenBlueWalkthrough
@GreenBlueWalkthrough 2 жыл бұрын
Yay book thoughts! I don't read only write so it's good to hear someone thoughts on them who is not a loretuber.
@yourdad7853
@yourdad7853 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I miss EOB COMPLETE. I know that it is still active on Discord, but I wish that it would be a part of the videos again.
@Derekthetau
@Derekthetau 2 жыл бұрын
Same :(
@mayofrench5170
@mayofrench5170 2 жыл бұрын
The new Ork Boyz have generated a lot of criticism for the monopose sculpting and mixed weapon loadout. They might work for a fun Greenskins Killteam. Goals for the year: Finish my firstborn Space Wolves and Blood Angels, Start my Primaris Space Wolves and Blood Angels, Paint my Ork Kommando Killteam and the Octarius terrain, paint the Chalnath terrain, play some 40k and Killteam.
@charleyedwards2121
@charleyedwards2121 2 жыл бұрын
if your in love with your models it doesnt matter if you win or loose. they did their best for you
@Nhexturtle
@Nhexturtle 2 жыл бұрын
I play with my gf every now and then. She likes Death Guard I play with Ultramarines I also like the aspect of collecting and assembling. I like painting and the results of it but it's not my favorite part, assembling is just so relaxing.
@arkaea8121
@arkaea8121 2 жыл бұрын
I feel similar to that. I love the assembling part. I put on some audio books and just build and relax. I get really bad anxiety about painting and tend to not enjoy that part as much
@matthewf20
@matthewf20 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with your thoughts on tournaments. Have fun with the stuff you like I guess. Thanks for what you do.
@noirerequiemii101
@noirerequiemii101 2 жыл бұрын
The tournament thing kinda worries me as it makes people judge you as a player based on your faction, even when you don't have a remotely meta list
@benwhitnell
@benwhitnell 2 жыл бұрын
People will judge you anyways, I wouldn’t lose any sleep over the particular thing for which one person or another has decided to judge you. Play the list you think is fun and makes you happy!
@KabinMiniatures
@KabinMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын
I've never been to a single tournament in over 20 years in this hobby. But for some reason I'm adamant about being able to field armies that are 100% legal and wysiwyg. Why is that???
@aerouge4492
@aerouge4492 2 жыл бұрын
Just for your army or your opponents army as well? If it's the later, then because you are likely not fun to be around.
@KabinMiniatures
@KabinMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын
@@aerouge4492 I know the type you are referring to and, no, they're not very fun to play with... I don't care at all about my opponent's army being wysiwyg and I do convert my own army etc. But when it comes to my own weapon loadouts etc. I want them all to be correct. But what I was trying to say was that I don't know why I have that need really, since I don't go to tournaments and mostly play friendly games where we houserule certain things...
@aerouge4492
@aerouge4492 2 жыл бұрын
@@KabinMiniatures Then you suffer from perfectionism ;-) And honestly I would love to have the funds and time to field every option instead of saying "Today my heavy weapon is ..." proxy. But hobbytime is a luxury for many, so we have to proxy ;-) But doing so for your own army is really cool ...
@KabinMiniatures
@KabinMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын
@@aerouge4492 I think you're on to something there. I think I would finish a lot more minis if I can change my mindset to "good enough". As you say it's a luxury and you have limited time for your hobby, so why not make the most of it?
@aerouge4492
@aerouge4492 2 жыл бұрын
@@KabinMiniatures well everybody draws satisfaction from different aspects of their work. For some its achieving many results (the 10.000 point army where individual paintjobs matter less) while others revel in perfectionism (haveing a Golden Demon level Killteam). Different strokes for different folks ...main thing is to enjoy the hobby :-)
@wiseoldwyrm765
@wiseoldwyrm765 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the new Guardians still have the wide stance, otherwise they'd look too different to the older ones side-by-side
@foreverfornever1124
@foreverfornever1124 2 жыл бұрын
Goals for this year. Finish 2000 points of my 7000+ point necron army, finish my custom salamander army builds and paint a 500 point army, and flesh out my paint scheme for my future tau army. ALSO FINALLY PLAY 40K GAMES!!! Jay you earned brownie points for admitting the first avengers movie is still the best one!
@theangryjeff
@theangryjeff 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still pretty new. Started on the lore in October, building and painting in November, and played kill team in December. My goals this year are to finally play 40K and stick to a World Eaters focused chaos soup. It was kinda hard for me to decide on a faction for a while so I’m glad I got into kill team first.
@hyggehammer
@hyggehammer 2 жыл бұрын
All about the battle reports! Would like to see Star Wars, 40K, and kill team. Your choice.
@thelonelybolter8245
@thelonelybolter8245 2 жыл бұрын
That was a burp "HOOWWW!" Best one yet.
@tristanlee8495
@tristanlee8495 2 жыл бұрын
I hope one day you get Nick to be an actual live studio audience and all he does is sit there motionless and emotionless just to see how long you guys last before one of you crack
@MaxFrejd
@MaxFrejd 2 жыл бұрын
liked the old intro more. Still one of the best WH channels tho
@Doodlebob563
@Doodlebob563 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the massive influx of new people to the hobby really reflects on how the tournament results are interpreted. Not gonna lie, as a newbie looking to start my first army the first thing I did was google things like "best 40k army" and tournament results were definitely on my radar. Thankfully I didn't make a decision based on that info and followed the community's advice: Play what you think is cool/fun, don't chase the "meta".
@laflecack
@laflecack 2 жыл бұрын
Inspired by your daily hangout videos, this year I'm going to start streaming some hobby hangouts!
@ChampstylesTLT
@ChampstylesTLT 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so true -thats how OP Captain Rex teams were for Star Wars Legion for the past year before the errata.
@predator0319
@predator0319 Жыл бұрын
Part of my 2022 goals were Play Some Games at my Store Continue painting my Death Guard Start a new army Get better at painting So far I have done all of those
@aerouge4492
@aerouge4492 2 жыл бұрын
Favourit "How" till now!
@LordChumbley
@LordChumbley 2 жыл бұрын
I need to paint more and reduce my pile of shame.
@sinwav8404
@sinwav8404 2 жыл бұрын
New Years resolution: play game of warhammer in my driveway
@robotsaysyes8804
@robotsaysyes8804 2 жыл бұрын
I’m super excited for all these eldar models. They were my first army
@TheRightwinger26
@TheRightwinger26 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna finish painting the necrons I currently own. Got some gifted pre-built ones and an unopened Worldscour Legion box. Would also be cool to play someone besides my friend who got me into 40k.
@johndimitriadis3171
@johndimitriadis3171 2 жыл бұрын
My first tabletop game was necromunda in the late 90's. I am just now getting back into the desire for it and have been looking at mantic games warpath, in particular their new firefight. I have pre-ordered the starter set and look forward to playing a few games.
@JadeCatMinis
@JadeCatMinis 2 жыл бұрын
I want to finish building the Red Harvest Warcry box. I'm going to try and fully paint and play at least one game of it this year.
@Narcomancer1943
@Narcomancer1943 2 жыл бұрын
GW themselves have shifted the focus towards tournaments by having the rule set as Grand Tournament etc and taking on the style of ITC. Playing a top meta list is still difficult if you have an army without a codex, but yeah you can win with those and sometimes it’s more fun to play as the underdog.
@zeroa6
@zeroa6 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!! Cheers!
@johnhanley5546
@johnhanley5546 2 жыл бұрын
Some interesting thoughts - had to downsize for time commitments a couple of years ago - went to Space Hulk Only - and anything I could shoehorn into it. It's just over your left shoulder - go on - play a game.
@rintaisho3538
@rintaisho3538 2 жыл бұрын
New Year resolution: I've assembled over 2000 points in new Black Templars. I'd like to have it all done and battle ready before 2023. Thanks for the inspiration.
@gabzgaming5991
@gabzgaming5991 2 жыл бұрын
Good insights
@dwarrenmsp
@dwarrenmsp 2 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on getting into Infinity and continuing on with Legion. Might dabble into Deadzone 3.0 with a starter set. I'd love to see you paint some Infinity models. They're so sharp!
@anonsmith510
@anonsmith510 2 жыл бұрын
Got my eye on a new Nurgle or Scaven army, but first I have to finish my mordhiem inspired Kruleboyz army. Built most and started on the bases, but it's time to paint and buy the rest to bring them up to 2000 points from 1500
@ee_eee_e4885
@ee_eee_e4885 2 жыл бұрын
Planning to work on my backlog this year. It's going to be either built and painted by the end of the year or it will be up for sale in 2023 :)
@ravenRedwake
@ravenRedwake 2 жыл бұрын
11:17 oh I memba that time back at the end of 5th where there were Dark Wolves, Black Wolves, Blood Wolves, Ultra Wolves, Chaos Wolves etc. It was like Leman Russ scrawled the codex astartes using a turd and a wall.
@vwave7890
@vwave7890 2 жыл бұрын
Got a couple Knights for Christmas, so I guess my hobby New Years Resolution is to OBTAIN MORE KNIGHTS.
@scottturner3831
@scottturner3831 2 жыл бұрын
PRIMARIS ELDAR!!!
@Gabrielof1600wings
@Gabrielof1600wings 2 жыл бұрын
This year I wanna do a really cool slow grow project! All of my armies have basically been speed paints thus far and now I want to really dig my claws into a project Where I get to flex my creative muscles and paint something real nice! Clearing the backlog would be cool too :’)
@jeanphilippemoiny2712
@jeanphilippemoiny2712 2 жыл бұрын
It's the same attitude that people have regarding mulitplayers games, if you don't play ranked games, you can't play ...
@badgerwijohnson4081
@badgerwijohnson4081 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact I've been collecting 40k for 2 years now I have painted 2 large Armies and have never played a game. Its my long term goal. I will play 40k some time this decade!
@demon1103
@demon1103 2 жыл бұрын
In the same boat. I have 7+ armies (I have a problem) that I started a year ago and have yet to play a game. Hopefully someday I will...but for that I need to find a place to play and get over my social anxieties.
@demon1103
@demon1103 2 жыл бұрын
Hey now, as someone who's #1 army is Orks I love the HH books so far....though after I finish listening to Battle for the Abyss I'd like to take a small break from HH and listen to Brutal Kunnin, Infinite and the Divine, and read Gloomspite (sad this one doesn't have an audiobook).
@manuelcolazo6752
@manuelcolazo6752 2 жыл бұрын
Time to play a balanced game... INFINITY
@svenv460
@svenv460 2 жыл бұрын
For 2022 I'm hoping to finish my (necromunda) Squat Miner gang, along with a Coronus Grav-carrier part (one of the engine blocks from the side) converted into a fitting squat hover van. Also hoping to complete my iron claw/Bob Olley squat collection this year. Next I wanted to build a 'pulpitek' for my Redemptionist gang, and find a metal Klovis the Redeemer (and Malakev). If i find more time maybe paint some Blackstone Fortress stuff. Breaking up the whole space dwarf force in smaller projects, as it has gotten a bit out of hand. With over 200 metal citadel and iron claw miniatures, and probably double in kitbashes and conversions forming multiple armies.
@cammo1397
@cammo1397 2 жыл бұрын
This year: Necromunda
@righter8665
@righter8665 2 жыл бұрын
Let's all make our Resolutions here! My miniature New years goals: -Finish painting up my Emperor's Children Warband. Had the models for over 10 years and only started painting last year. -Finish painting my massive collection (too many points. Far too many points) of Space Marines which I've been hoarding since 3rd edition.... -Finish painting my massive collection of Imperial Guard (fooey on calling them Astra Militarum) METAL CADIANS which I've been hoarding since 3rd edition....-Finish rebasing my (////) Soulblight Gravelords which I started collecting in 1994... -Play at least a single game of WH 40K, AoS, Kill Team
@PhD777
@PhD777 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for stating the glaringly obvious thing that most youtubers will not, and do not, state: not everyone is a good/competent player and that tournament gamers are, well, (to be polite) tournament gamers! Unfortunately tournament gamers have a disproportionate influence on rules development and changes due to their being the most prone to exploit rules (as with the examples you gave), with the less-skilled tournament gamers being the ones that whine the most when beaten by it. As result, things are changed and, the unwashed hordes being what they are, think every utterance from GW is law and must be included/followed, thereby having a cascade effect throught the masses. It is unfortunate that, when the GW-lemmings leave the ship, they bring their bring their (plague-like) bad habits with them and contaminate other decent games systems and genres (Flames of War, Kings of War, various Osprey and Warlord titles, as examples); not realizing that very behavior is what caused them to dislike/leave GW in the first place. (Mind you, AoS did contribute greatly to the influx of them to KoW and FoW leading to tournament-centric rules mediocrity.) Jay, you do an excellent job speaking the truth in such a way that people would have great difficulty being offended while producing high-quality, enjoyable videos! Well done, again! 👍🎅👍
@connormorgan6137
@connormorgan6137 2 жыл бұрын
My 2022 goal is to finish my 2000 pt Salamanders list, and kitbash enough servitors that I can run a squad of them with whatever weapon options I want; I've been itching to ACTUALLY kitbash and hack up some plastic (not just using an aggressor head on an eradicator)
@MugenSlayers
@MugenSlayers 2 жыл бұрын
I love the cactus
@theanimaster
@theanimaster 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think you should switch to KillTeam - that will allow you to: 1.) shill for KillTeam 2.) have a buffet of all factions to paint 3.) get more games in with the little time you have Being able to paint more factions because they require fewer models is going to be the next level for you. New color schemes, new materials - fur, skin, shiny armor… it’ll allow you to really branch out your skillz - and at the same time, help the community and tick more boxes for those who will tune in! In time, you’ll be able to offer better insight into each KillTeam army, and *gasp* maybe even get those Battle Reports done!
@Razsminion
@Razsminion 2 жыл бұрын
My miniature New years goals: -Finish up that 2,000 points of Khrone Daemons for Age of Sigmar. Seriously, I've been sitting on those damn things sense the newest Battletome came out... what? 2 to 4 years ago now? -Work on my backlog of stuff; paint my Daemonettes from the Wrath and Rapture boxset to be with my Word Bearers army along with my other odds and ends of Daemons that are hanging around from various odd kits. -Try and finish all of those 'Getting started' box sets before buying other miniature for those armies. Finish what I have first before I let myself get tempted by other miniatures. I'm hoping to get to playing games this year but it might not happen considering everything that his going on...
@landgin3781
@landgin3781 2 жыл бұрын
So you got an army and you don’t play because you don’t have a battletome?
@xanderlee51
@xanderlee51 2 жыл бұрын
I'm super excited to paint my Word Bearers and play some smaller games.
@RerollingOnes
@RerollingOnes 2 жыл бұрын
Broke my mouse off on the like button
@curtise.gill67
@curtise.gill67 2 жыл бұрын
I started a tyranid army. I have about 1300 points so far. Awesome models to paint.
@Thanoric
@Thanoric Жыл бұрын
I'm over here with my Imperial Knights and still winning 1/3 of my games and having a blast. Usually run Crusader/Errant with 6 armigers (2 hel, 4 glaives). I play to be social more than anything.
@andrewpepper-parsons9630
@andrewpepper-parsons9630 2 жыл бұрын
The counter point to ignore tournaments which I think you made some good points about list details is that stats from tournaments can give you a good idea of what factions are strong and which are weaker. There's a concept I've come across of plumbing for armies in the fat middle with a 40-50% win rate as that will be give you armies that are evenly matched. Strong but not overly strong. People like the Honest Wargamer for AoS can inform purchasing choices.
@kristianjensen5877
@kristianjensen5877 2 жыл бұрын
You'd still need to look at external factors beyond the win ratio for a proper assessment of a books actual strength though. I mean there might literally be only one competitive build within a book, which only works when played by above-average players and the reason the win ratio is even as high as 50% could be because everyone but said players have ditched it for easier-to-use books and so there's fewer people dragging the win-ratio down. The book might literally suck apart from maybe a single unit/strategy taking a lot of practice to apply, while the rest is generally unfun garbage even in casual play.
@phimmy3087
@phimmy3087 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the cacti on the bases of the orks? Are they printed?
@TheDigitalThreat
@TheDigitalThreat 2 жыл бұрын
I had only just got into the hobby and my first army is Blood Angels. When I heard they were doing well I was kinda bummed because people would think I chose them just for that reason and not because the lore behind them was what I liked. Luckily my not having a clue what the hell I'm doing clearly shows I didnt build the army with some meta list. Also knowing they will be hit first with over corrections in balancing sooner rather than later isnt much to look forward to.
@Lafrono
@Lafrono 2 жыл бұрын
My new year goal: I want to actually finish stuff in this year. Since 2009 i just bought stuff, so I own 9 armys (8 40k, 1 fantasy) with over 1000 models. I didnt even have much money, I dont know where all that stuff comes from! But right now Im working on my white scars and paint them at a (for me) high standard, so I want to use that energy to get tons of good looking painted armys on to the table
@Cylindryk
@Cylindryk Жыл бұрын
I always hear that, and yet, most games I ever played were on tournaments (or preparing for such). Even if I played "light game", it was still on "tournament" rules. Another thing - there is bigger chances that "friends" actually say that you can't play BA using UM painted models - on tournaments there is nothing like that. In short - you got it all backwards...
@briochepanda
@briochepanda 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see people playing the too meta space marine factions but using rando successor chapters, like Executioners, Star Phantoms, Relictors or Mentors. Imagine facing down white space marines in their deep green swimsuits. IMAGINE IT.
@rvdammit
@rvdammit 2 жыл бұрын
I suggest the Ciaphas Cain books for a grim twilight look at the Imperium.
@richardbradley2335
@richardbradley2335 2 жыл бұрын
20.26...the old guardian head looks like Billy from 1986 Predator movie.
@DoctorScroll
@DoctorScroll 2 жыл бұрын
I've been meaning to get Arena rex forever, they look amazing but are harder to get in the uk. They do have sales and free shipping from their main site sometimes so that's probably the way to approach that.
@MiguelFuentes11
@MiguelFuentes11 2 жыл бұрын
Dang... That's a good question? What do I want from my hobby this year? I have 2 fully painted armies and I'm pretty happy with that.... IM GONNA DO SOME DISPLAY PAINTING! Yeet! ☺️
@OurCognitiveSurplus
@OurCognitiveSurplus 2 жыл бұрын
My goal this year is to lose more kill team games. So far I’ve lost 2 from 2. It’s an awesome start
@LiliaArmoury
@LiliaArmoury 2 жыл бұрын
my hobby goals for 2022/23 are: - make 20 terrain pieces and one full set of terrain tiles (24 1 foot industrial terrain tiles made solely from things i can find at the supermarket - finish my current collection of sisters of battle - finish the knights I have that have been wip since 2020/21 including doing free handing on the heraldry (which is why i keep putting it off because it terrifies me - do 12 40k conversion build projects (i count a single squad as one project) - clear my 3rd party 40k backlog (currently sitting at near 70 models) including doing several reviews and converting some of them (some for my sisters, some for my admech, some for my guard - start on conversion building an admech army including finishing my skitarii horsemen that have been on hold since 2020 due to my needing to sculpt coats and fabric for them - finish my current wip cosplays (including sister of battle 2019 attempt, erza scarlet heart kruz outfit, rory mercury cosplay - make 10 sister of battle cosplay props: two bolt pistols, hand flamer, rebuild my foam flamer prop, make a meltagun prop, make a interchangeable combi weapon, rebuild my plasma pistol, make a reasonably scaled chainsword, heavy bolter (including attachment for the backpack), light up powersword, heavy flamer - make 10 new cosplays - start star wars legion (learn how to play it) - grow my channel to 500 subscribers (who knows if that is possible given this platform but my channel is a hobby not a job - make 12 terrain tutorial videos on projects I have done - finish my melee only mechanicus playthrough livestream series - play 5 games of warhammer when i write all that down is seems like a metric shipload especially for someone who is homeless and couch surfing at the start of 2022
@ono1381
@ono1381 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna get my Blood Ravens and G'Daydian Shock Troopers up to 2k points painted. Will have to go the next town over and get some games.
@johnlanger7852
@johnlanger7852 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking I am going to get in my new house and build a desk to hobby at and not be painting on the floor of a rented room
@fromization1
@fromization1 2 жыл бұрын
Well I do!
@SupermarketZombies
@SupermarketZombies 2 жыл бұрын
My goal this year is to paint all 2000 points of Orks and to paint at least 4 companies or trinaries for Battletech.
@stevmeyer2043
@stevmeyer2043 2 жыл бұрын
The Nurgle faction is my jam but thought about doing a primarally meelee base Genestealer Kill Team using bodies and weapons from the Necromunda: Corpse Grinder Cult.
@bopaintsminis
@bopaintsminis 2 жыл бұрын
I want to actually play a tabletop wargame this year. I am thinking Stargrave and Gamma Wolves. I have plenty of minis for both, and just found a local wargame discord server. So with luck I will be able to find some games. Happy new year to all and good luck with new gaming endeavors.
@odeegrotsniffer4166
@odeegrotsniffer4166 2 жыл бұрын
Nick's memories next! We need more Nick! Do a book review with Arbitor Ian! That should be easy to coordinate two schedules across continents with someone you don't know!
@timunderbakke8756
@timunderbakke8756 2 жыл бұрын
New year hobby goals: finish 2k points of Thousand Sons. That’s about it, beyond some more playtime maybe. I already did my hobby downsizing - xwing, 40k (just two armies for me), dabbling with world of tanks minis because one of the xwing guys is, and two independent company skirmish games where I don’t need to buy anything else for them (Burrows & Badgers and Relicblade - highly recommend them for skirmish game itch).
@darbizzlebacon
@darbizzlebacon 2 жыл бұрын
I have yet to play any form of warhammer or own any models... I still watch every video as soon as it comes out because it does really interest me, so my New Years resolution is to paint my first space marine.
@aerynmusick4548
@aerynmusick4548 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed The Binary Succession and Titandeath from the Black Library. Maybe it’s obvious from the titles but they’re AdMech focused and I find them super interesting.
@derbaqstein802
@derbaqstein802 2 жыл бұрын
This year i want to start my Ork-Squigg army (40k). I hope to paint about 1,5k Points and to play some games :)
@stewartmartin8382
@stewartmartin8382 2 жыл бұрын
Funny you should say about the whole get out thing, I have a converted dreadnaught with rockets, I got told that I woukd never be able to use it, despite the fact I only wanted to used it as a drednaught, this was at a local games club
@afireinsidebrad
@afireinsidebrad 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile ive kitbashed Azrael, Belial, Asmodai, and an Interrogator-Chaplain for my Dark Angels and my FLGS is 100% cool with it, same with my Deathwing Knights kitbashed from Cataphractii Termies, even got props for how clean they turned out
@anthonytanner2343
@anthonytanner2343 2 жыл бұрын
Where are the mini cactus from?
@fabiopauli420
@fabiopauli420 2 жыл бұрын
10:22 the core rules literally state: If you are not sure about a rule ask your opponent so you can both agree on something That is like the whole opposite of a tournament ruleset XD
@facelessman265
@facelessman265 2 жыл бұрын
now i want to see Aeldari with bear heads
@PigsxArexAwesome
@PigsxArexAwesome 2 жыл бұрын
The idea that we need to take a grain of salt with tournament results I agree with. But it can be indicative of a local meta. My area people seem to have an unending amount of money and always have "the best armies". But like you said they dont really understand the armies and play too aggressively
@bramdelorijn8460
@bramdelorijn8460 2 жыл бұрын
I am trying to buy less, and more often just paint a model for the fun of it trying new techniques are wacky colours. Also use my Mars Elgoo 3d printer more.
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