Don't order that Swytch front wheel e-bike kit yet! Is the Geeko rear wheel kit a better option?

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Жыл бұрын

If you've been considering an e-bike conversion kit, you've probably considered a Swytch kit; you may have even watched my video review of it. I also compared the Swytch kit to the Geeko front wheel e-bike conversion kit from 100G and concluded that the Geeko kit is the better option for a number of reasons (check out the video if you haven't seen it).
However, in the video, I am going to compare the front wheel kits which you have seen to a rear wheel conversion kit from Geeko to see which feels better to ride. Big thanks to 100G for providing the kit used in this test.
If you want to learn more about these kits, place an order for a Geeko kit or join the waiting list for a Swytch kit, click on the below links and explore their websites. Both offer lots of information and insights into the hardware and the technology behind them.
Geeko have also sent me an exclusive code for you to use when placing an order, giving you $60 off the price! Just enter "Paul-60" at checkout!
Geeko:
www.100g.tech/product/
Swytch:
www.swytchbike.com
Neither of these links contains affiliate associations and I earn nothing from any subsequent purchases made by clicking the links.
For clarity, I paid for the Swytch kit shown in the video with my own money, whilst I received the Geeko kits free of charge from the suppliers with the intention of providing an honest and unbiased comparison review, which I believe I have done here. I was not paid for the review.

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@andrewcheesman6255 Жыл бұрын

I bought the front wheel kit because I am 110kg (I'm tall) and cycle 25km per day to work on some rough roads and was worried the rear wheel wouldn't be strong enough. I break spokes on the rear wheel on my GT mountain bike which is strong........ I think rear wheel motor is better but I made the right choice for the reasons above. Looking forward to the double motor vid. Setting the cadence sensor can be tricky but when set its great piece of kit and usually use it on power 1 and then 2 for some hills and I still feel I'm getting a work out without getting to out of breath. I live in Japan maybe I will post a vid of my ride to work it can be entertaining.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Get it posted - I’d watch it. Sounds like you definitely made the right choice for your particular circumstance. The dual kit video is up now, by the way.

@mikeptrsn1 Жыл бұрын

There is a big advantage to a front wheel motor - that is when climbing a slippery, muddy track as I discovered on a long tour in Scotland. The base bike is a cheap road bike and has a old Swytch kit and worked very - when it was going. It failed about 20% of the trip. It didn’t work at all on a subsequent Burgundy trip. I left the batteries in the car and carried on. Swytch tried to help via email. They don’t do out of warranty repairs. I bought a replacement handlebar bracket and it now seems ok. Front drive is perfectly good. The pedal cadence sensor is easily knocked but easily relocated. Low gears help and the lower the better if touring, as the pedal sensor will pick up fast pedal rate and send more current on steep hills. The handlebar battery is annoying and stops you putting a handlebar pannier. A frame battery is better. Now that I have a wiring diagram, I am going to redistribute the battery and control unit. I don’t want to waste the money I spent on Swytch. Wish me luck.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a worthwhile exercise - hope it all works out for you. I do prefer the Geeko kit for that very reason - a frame mounted battery over a handlebar weight.

@waynekerr5645 Жыл бұрын

I have to agree with Paul on how natural the rear wheel kit feels. I was sceptical that the 20mph showing in the app was accurate until I fitted my Garmin to confirm, it feels so normal - but quicker! I initially had the intermittent power issue that Paul has in the dual kit review, but after emailing 100G* they sent me instructions on how to update the controller software and it’s fine now. Also, I don’t know what battery came with Paul’s kit(s), but the 10AH one that I ordered with mine is worth the extra and I get at least 40 miles from a full charge. In total it cost me just over 600 quid, with a 7 speed cassette, which I think is a real bargain. *VERY quick response when I’ve had to email them.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Glad you’re enjoying it, Wayne! 👍🏼

@markscott7467 4 ай бұрын

Good video, be keen to see what like it is for on hills. I like that it looks so in keeping with the bike. Just had a look and the same kit as you demonstrate is now £711.00 big increase in few months..

@PaulsViewsReviews 4 ай бұрын

That is a lot of money, undeniably! There may be discount codes knocking around, but I’ll leave that with you. As for hills, it is great, though the battery obviously works hard and goes through its capacity quicker. On a muddy hill, an electric front wheel can spin a bit, and you have stand up to maintain the weight on it for traction, but an electric rear wheel is best, whatever the terrain, I have found.

@tommcguire5525 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic presenter. Well done Paul. For me though, waited forever for my Swytch Kit, cancelled and bought a Decathlon E 500 Riverside 990 euros. If is just a perfect good looking bike with no problems, highly recommended.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much. You’re not the first person to comment on how much they like the decathlon e-bike. I’ll have to check it out!

@joccee88 Жыл бұрын

Thank. Good video on this kit 👍 Maybe check your audiolevels, to be able to hear your voice I needed to turn the volume to max and then the ads almost blew my ears off

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback - I will focus more on it in future edits.

@megjuneau Жыл бұрын

I got a Swytch and I wish I had just gotten a regular E-bike. Most of the pieces couldn't fit (Handlebars and things were thicker than the attachments could stretch too), and the battery promises 9 miles, but not if you need to go up and down a hill on your commute.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

The price of an ‘out of the box’ e-bike are getting more and more accessible, so I can see why. Several people have talked about the great value of the Decathlon e-bike in my comments. I’ve not looked at it myself though.

@ThomasFoerster Жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, Thanks for the review. Did you notice any reaction time difference between the front and the back motor wheel kits ? I'm wondering if the wheel-embedded sensor makes the motor react faster or on the contrary slower than the first version you tested. I guess this would be obvious when you start pedaling from a complete stop, without using the throttle.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Hi Thomas. Good question. I actually felt the reaction from the rear was a little slower but only very marginally. The delay wouldn’t be enough to affect your confidence is getting up to speed while pulling away from traffic lights, for example.

@rossturner9568 Жыл бұрын

I waited years for my Swytch kit and received multiple bogus shipping docs. It finally arrived last week after one hell of a battle and threats of legal action but doesn't fit front suspension drop out forks on two mountain bikes I have tried so total waist of time and money. The supplied wheel needs 10mm drop out, the manual says it is very unusual to be a 9mm drop out which is bullshit. It would be unusual on the back but this is a front wheel conversion! I didn't even see an option for axle size on the ordering page so didn't know it was an issue. I now know of at least one reviewer who had exactly the same problem. Apparently the remedy is to file the axel but this did not work for the reviewer as it put breaks etc out of alignment which forced him to give up. I will NEVER buy from a startup company again.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

That is a disappointing experience. Got to admit, Swytch is the only start up I’ve supported in the last few years after losing money again and again. Hope you find a solution!

@tpstulane Жыл бұрын

File the wheel part not your fork. I had the same problem. Best Buy I ever made. Good luck!

@somecyclist Жыл бұрын

I filled mine and had no problem, just used a fine file and kept switching sides to get it even. I guess maybe I was lucky as I was a bit worried. They offered to replace it but I was too impatient. I also had to file down the plastic that holds the pedal sensor so that it could be completely flat in order to have the right distance. ALSO, the display won't fit either of my handle bars??? Why didn't they just design it with a strap that would fit anything??? It's not very universal at all it seems but luckily I got it up and running.

@DrTofutybeast 13 күн бұрын

Scam company... Please don't put all 'start ups' in the same boat.

@lennardvanderpoel6402 Жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, great vid. If you don't use the battery. Do you feel extra resistance when you bike? I am thinking of sharing a battery with my son. So i will use the bike with the Geeko kit often without a battery.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much - appreciate the feedback. Honestly, there does feel to be a little resistance but not enough to be a concern. I happily ride mine without the batteries.

@kaffa23 Жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, thanks for your super explanatory videos, I wanted to ask you if you are familiar with the conversion kit from Lvbu , it is very similar to the one from Geeko, and I am trying to figure out which one is better between the two, maybe you can help me understand the differences Thank you and I hope in your reply Alberto

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Hi Alberto. I'm sorry but I am unfamiliar with Lvbu. I have just Googled them and the products look very comparable to Geeko so I think you'd be happy with either.

@cyclingvideosandmore 10 ай бұрын

Can’t imagine why no one asked this question. What kind of ride distances are you getting out of your rear drive set up battery and what amp hr battery do you have? Some real numbers please!

@pascalbruyere7108 11 ай бұрын

Front or rear motor you still need the same pedal sensor unless your motor can sense torque, I believe. In your case it seems that it has a torque sensor, not a cadence sensor. A cadence sensor is not possible since you have gears.

@stillben Жыл бұрын

i bought an swytch eco gen 2. the motor is great from swytch but the battery was never able to do more than 18 on a charge even on the lowest level of pedal assist. i adapted a bigger battery to it now and get about 30 miles on full power pedal assist doing about 23 on flat. pretty good. the new ones look fairly hopeless for range and upgrade potential.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

I tend to agree. Their market is clearly now city riders/commuters who don’t cover significant distance or challenges in terrain.

@benpar8120 11 ай бұрын

Great review, but these are a bit expensive when you consider that you can buy a motorbike/ moped for a similar price & you know that the brakes WILL stop you!!

@PaulsViewsReviews 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I have to admit that the cost does creep up but I think the deciding factor is whether you already have a bike you love that you don't want to replace. If you've already spent a ton of money buying a bike with great components, you don't have room for a second bike but you do not want that extra nudge up a hill then a kit is a great idea. You're right though - I think I paid less than that for my first CB250, albeit a long, long time ago!

@benpar8120 11 ай бұрын

@@PaulsViewsReviews I've still got my CB 250 Nightrider & it gives me 110+ mpg around London. 😁

@PaulsViewsReviews 11 ай бұрын

@@benpar8120 Cool! I’m on a 1300 now, which is not so economical in comparison!

@benpar8120 11 ай бұрын

@@PaulsViewsReviews Also collected a few !970/80's CB's which i'm restoring ATM 🤫😉

@iain.wlaird2275 4 ай бұрын

I'm looking for a rear set up and the Geeko would certainly fit the bill. Is there anywhere in the UK that stocks this kit?

@jonathanrandall9229 9 ай бұрын

Hi Paul, your videos are great 👌 I am looking at getting the geeko rear hub system but I’m just trying to clarify if it’ll work with a gates carbon belt drive as it doesn’t have a cassette.. I’ve messaged geeko but I’m not getting a response, I was wondering if you could shed any light on this?

@PaulsViewsReviews 9 ай бұрын

Firstly, thanks - I appreciate that. That's a good question, which I can't be 100% certain of answering correctly, but the key is that the rear wheel come with space for a gear cassette so, assuming you still need one of those with your carbon belt drive, then it should be fine to fit. I can't think of a reason why the cadence sensor wouldn't;t function the same way, too! I hope the guys come back to you soon.

@FinflazodeTurroai Жыл бұрын

With a front wheel kit you have two wheels traction... on some places that's a good advantage.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Definitely! Rough terrain up a hill, it’s a great addition.

@MikeLeepdx 9 ай бұрын

Paul, nice video. Excellent review of the rear hub motor which I am looking at. Can you tell me if they are still in business? I have asked a few question on their site but have no response. Good to know if you are still in contact with them.

@PaulsViewsReviews 9 ай бұрын

I would hope so - I’ve not seen anything to suggest otherwise. I hope you got through in the end.

@ruralridez6165 Жыл бұрын

can you do a video with both kits on I would love to see 2x power.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Hi. I did that very thing! Have a look at my videos and it’s in there.

@jeffallinson8089 3 ай бұрын

That was excellent, thank you. I too was going to go down the Swytch route but not any more. I think this Geeko rear wheel kit is the option for me. Can you use your bike without electric assistance, say for example your on the flat or down a hill? Please advise.

@PaulsViewsReviews 3 ай бұрын

Absolutely - just turn it off and you’re riding unassisted.

@jeffallinson8089 3 ай бұрын

@@PaulsViewsReviews Great, thanks!!

@seniorbeatbox Жыл бұрын

I was seriously considering an ebike conversion like the Geeko but have been discouraged by some experienced bike folks who warn that it would not be a good idea to install a kit on a bike that may not be able to handle the increased torque and forces etc that would be introduced, especially in areas like the dropouts. Steel frames seem to be preferred, so i'm not sure now since i have an aluminum frame hybrid. what do you think?

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Hi. With a 250w motor, the torque is not considered enough to be as problem, I’m assured. If you go onto the Geeko website they do talk about it - and will sell you a torque arm for your bike, but only suggest it for larger motors. If you’re inside of Europe, you’ll likely be sticking to 250w, if you want to be legally complaint. Outside of the European zone and you go for something bigger, it might be worth considering.

@seniorbeatbox Жыл бұрын

@@PaulsViewsReviewsok good to know, thanks :)

@seniorbeatbox Жыл бұрын

@@PaulsViewsReviews oh one more question if I may - is it easy to control your speed with these kits, or are you going flat-out all the time? as you can tell I’ve never ridden one 😮

@deneiga Жыл бұрын

@@seniorbeatbox I have converted two hybrid roadbikes and one proper road bike with the 350 watt motor. No issues so far. On one bike I even had to dimple the chainstay to raise tyre clearence. I am very happy this conversion kit exists. It gave a second life to my bikes. Before the conversion i wasn't using them anymore and now all time.

@seniorbeatbox Жыл бұрын

@@deneiga cool thanks for the info :)

@roadbiker8333 2 ай бұрын

I have a question, want to convert mine with this kit, for the speed limit, will I be able to change the parameters so it continues to provide power up to 20mph for private land use? (with a 250W/350W motor)

@PaulsViewsReviews 2 ай бұрын

Hi. there is definitely a function within the app to change the power delivery and allow higher speeds, so I'm going to stay yes. I think the instructions are on KZfaq somewhere actually.

@JTChi Жыл бұрын

Hi Paul - do you know which is the right configuration for a Brompton?

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Hi. Both Swytch and Geeko offer a 16" wheel, which is the typical Brompton size. For the Geeko, there are two versions: the 305 and the 349mm, both of which fit different versions of the Brompton, so you would have to check which one you need. Hope that helps.

@JTChi Жыл бұрын

@@PaulsViewsReviews thank you

@dalegiesbrecht5000 11 ай бұрын

Does the 100 g battery work on the swytch wheel i have a swytch but battery quite

@PaulsViewsReviews 11 ай бұрын

Someone else asked me that last week and so I decided to give it a go - I can confirm that it does! The throttle doesn’t, if you have a Swytch throttle, but battery and motor work together.

@patty109109 11 ай бұрын

You have a nice patio.

@PaulsViewsReviews 10 ай бұрын

Very kind, thanks!

@richardrichard508 5 ай бұрын

🤣

@antman5474 9 ай бұрын

Great for a town commute on fairly level ground but I'm out in all weather's. My commute is on tarmac roads covered in corrosive farm traffic mud which gets everywhere. It's also very very hilly. Lots of steep climbs. My bike gets left out in the rain all day. I'd be surprised if this kit lasted 3 months. It's not a criticism It's just I haven't seen a hub motor review on anything but sunny days, clean roads and mild hills. I need to know if it's water and shit proof.

@PaulsViewsReviews 9 ай бұрын

Hey. I have taken mine through some crap and extreme weather, but not consistently. I would hope they would be fine, as they’re sealed units, but it would interesting to test it to its limits.

@tonywalker7064 Жыл бұрын

Noticed you used a swych sensor on the front kit, are components interchangeable,, same plugs etc ?

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

The cadence sensor plugs do seem to be pretty universal, I believe. I think the throttle might be much the same. Pretty sure that's where the universality ends though.

@tonywalker7064 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulsViewsReviews thanks , was thinking of getting water bottle battery for my swych wheel to replace broken handle bar (swych) batt instead of the smaller new swych type ,seemed like a good plan in my head lol

@48Volts Жыл бұрын

Thankyou I agree pedal assist are awful from switch

@PaulsViewsReviews 11 ай бұрын

I don't think the Swytch kit is awful; I just think there are better options.

@HeyitsMartyn Жыл бұрын

How does the battery bracket look? And the wheel, should we be concerned about bumps jumps and offroad use?

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

The bracket is really quite neat and very solidly secured where a water bottle would go. You can add extra support to secure the bracket if you wanted to (see my two wheel drive Geeko video to see how I’ve secured the second battery). The wheel looks and feels as solid as the factory wheel to me. I’ve ridden off road a bit on mine and not even thought about the stability of the battery, as nothing drew my attention to it, either during or afterwards. I’m sure there will be a limit to how much of a beating both can take but I’ve not got close! Hope that helps.

@HeyitsMartyn Жыл бұрын

@@PaulsViewsReviews wonderful news, thanks for the detailed reply. I’ll be sure to check out that video. As for delivery time would you say it is faster with geeko than with swytch?

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

@@HeyitsMartyn Absolitely! It’s night and day.

@dot2562 Жыл бұрын

READ THIS PLEASE, anyone converting their bike 2 electric make sure you get an EBIKE TORQUE ARM,only for front/rear wheel conversion, i had a front wheel motor kit and it snapped my wheel of fork at the drop out and the wheel jammed and bent into fork,i was lucky not 2 be killed,no1 told me i needed 1 and didn't come with kit.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Good advice and thanks for sharing! I will be certain to order. To anyone else reading, if you are considering an e-bike conversion kit, add a torque arm - they're not expensive and could avoid damaging both your bike and, more importantly, yourself! 100G will sell you one when you order your kit (www.100g.tech/product/torque-arm/), or here is an example on Amazon: amzn.to/43g9n3n. Please be safe out there, people, and thanks again for the advice, Dot. Glad you were OK after your accident.

@kjm-ch7jc Жыл бұрын

Nice to know you can now use a hand throttle instead of peddle assist only, when did the law change ?

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

It didn’t. Throttle is still only for use on public routes, I’m afraid. However, few people seem to care, judging by the how many delivery riders use them and the ever increasing number of e-scooters on British roads.

@sv6k0a39 11 ай бұрын

Can the wheel be used on a bike with regular style brakes? (non-disk brakes)

@PaulsViewsReviews 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely - the rim is regular sized so no problem at all.

@thevernonposse Жыл бұрын

If I added a switch kit to my rear wheel ebike would it give me any benefit?

@PaulsViewsReviews 11 ай бұрын

You'd have a two wheel drive bike so you'd definitely feel the difference. However, you would not be legal to use on the road in Europe, your bike would be exceptionally heavy. Not sure I would bother - in fact, after setting up a two wheel drive bike for one of my videos, I have gone back down to just rear wheel drive.

@jamescorrigan2777 Жыл бұрын

I bought the Geeko kit for the front. nearly 5 weeks to arrive. Wish i had never bothered. It is very weak then it failed completely on the second time i used it. Dead battery which no one locally wants to know about. I heard it is actually better than switch which hardly says much for switch. Geeko Support is difficult as they do not understand English very well. Sent photos and description but not understood by them. Expensive mistake. Never again.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

That is disappointing to hear - I found their support really good. I hope you have not accepted this and are still chasing a solution.

@100gsmarttech4 Жыл бұрын

Hello, We have contacted you regarding a battery issue. The picture you provided is too simple to show or prove the battery problem. In a recent email to you, I requested that you provide further videos, pictures, and descriptions to help us identify the problem, please reply to my email..

@jamescorrigan2777 Жыл бұрын

@@100gsmarttech4 I showed you the battery reading 52 volts with no display and no power on signal to the motor. What more do you need? This is a terrible waste of money. I made a bad choice and regret it.

@100gsmarttech4 Жыл бұрын

@@jamescorrigan2777 You can always measure the voltage, whether the display is on or off, this is normal. Please provide a video that shows the display keeps off when you long press the middle button of the display. Thanks!

@100gsmarttech4 Жыл бұрын

In our email correspondence with Mr. James Corrigan, we have been actively trying to resolve this issue. After our pleading, James Corrigan provided the only video available, but in it he covered the key area with his finger so we could not see the product at all. Later, we provided two videos showing Mr. James Corrigan how to take clear videos so we could find the problem. We repeatedly asked Mr. James Corrigan for the videos in each of our emails, but Mr. James Corrigan consistently refused to do so. We are engineers, not debaters, and we need to solve problems with actions. Without video and further cooperation, we will not be able to resolve the issues raised by James Corrigan with only verbal arguments.

@KevinsPianoLand Жыл бұрын

does the wheel work with tubeless tires?

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

I can't think of any reason why not; if the fitting is the same as a regular wheel there's nothing about the wheel itself which would make this unlikely. Probably best to check directly with Geeko or Swytch though.

@philflip1963 Жыл бұрын

How can the cadence sensor work in the hub?

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

I'm not 100% sure but it appears to be something to do with the Geeko provided cassette sensor. They offer an explanation on their site (www.100g.tech/product/geeko-rear/), but I can assure you that it does work.

@dot2562 Жыл бұрын

Sorry for spamming 😅(all tho i think the more messages the better for u channel with algorithm)i done a lot of research into kits as i work for deliveroo, from wot i gather mid range motors best but expensive and wheel ones its better for motor if u have suspension, so i have mine on front,another point is legality uk is 250 watt motor, so if u have 2 will they be 125 watt each🤔probably irrelevant police dont care but for people like me who have insurance anything over250 watt is illegal and will void insurance...and another we note lmao, i think throttles might be illegal aswell in uk only pedal assit.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Totally true about the throttle and the motor limit in the UK. Throttle is only for private land and the motor is still a 250W motor, to stay legally compliant on public highways. For my new video, I have kept the dual motors for use while off the roads to stay compliant. Also, you can turn either one off using the app, should you need to. It was an interesting experience! I am aiming to post that video next weekend.

@HUNTER-ej2kc 4 ай бұрын

Is it possible to run both front and back?

@PaulsViewsReviews 4 ай бұрын

It sure is! Here is a link to my video where I do exactly that: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e8pznbOTsNubpqs.html

@germainederandamie40 Жыл бұрын

how much watt is it. It wouldnt be able to handle 500W bafang. Had the problem that it would kick out of the frame. Now its fitted to a 6061 alu mtb frame and running like a charm

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

The model I'm testing is a 250W motor, as that's the legal limit for public roads, but they do sell a 500W.

@markthomasson5077 Жыл бұрын

No reaction arm?

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Not for a 250w motor - I would certainly consider it if we were allowed bigger motors in the UK.

@mindes7483 11 ай бұрын

Just to understand. Understand depends bike brand and model but for 600£ is possible to find brand new ebike. So where is a catch to throw 520£ on conversion kit only, where second hand bike would cost 100-200£.

@PaulsViewsReviews 10 ай бұрын

If you didn't already have a bike which you loved and had invested in, I would suggest just going and buying an inexpensive e-bike. These kits are for those people who only have room for one bike, love the bike they have but need a littler help now and again.

@dot2562 Жыл бұрын

EAPC electrically assisted pedal cycle do not need to be taxed or insured no more than 250watts or max speed 15.5 mph if propelled by any other means than pedalling its not an EAPC and must be insured as a motorcycle/moped need a licence and wear a helmet....thank you pleas😅😅😅 its not enforced in NI,but its good 2 no the Law👊👊👊

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dot. If anyone reading would like to learn more about UK laws on riding an EAPC, I have talked about it one of my earlier videos and you can read more here: www.gov.uk/electric-bike-rules

@JohnnyRacerX 11 ай бұрын

SWYTCH - Warning to others - DO NOT use this company. They do not stand behind their products. I purchased ($600 for the kit) their earlier gen kit in the fall of 2021. Rode the bike a total of less than 50 miles over that time. Kept the battery charged in the 60-80% range as recommended. The battery is CRAP and will not hold a charge, causing it to cut out after 3-5 mins of use. Their answer to me - BUY ANOTHER KIT ! Buyer BEWARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😡😡😡😡😡

@PaulsViewsReviews 10 ай бұрын

That's not a great experience! Thanks for sharing.

@colincampbell4261 Жыл бұрын

Tiny tiny battery.

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

The Swytch? Yes, but the Geeko gives some good battery options.

@JT-tk4me 11 ай бұрын

Do you think we should be worried about these batteries from China?

@PaulsViewsReviews 10 ай бұрын

I certainly aren't worried about it. So much of what we have is made in China and, while there will always be crap that comes out of pretty much any country, most of the products from China are mass produced and tend to work pretty well. My experience, anyway!

@Free__Speech Жыл бұрын

250w 😂😂😂 my farts have more power

@PaulsViewsReviews Жыл бұрын

The law does kind of suck on that point.

@mikksaia8373 5 ай бұрын

too damn expensive

@PaulsViewsReviews 4 ай бұрын

Its is pretty steep - just depends on how much you want to stick with your existing 'base bike' as to whether it is worth it for you. Thanks for watching though.

@mikksaia8373 4 ай бұрын

@@PaulsViewsReviews i mean compared to the manufacturing and shipping costs pre unit this is absolutely ridiculous.fot the price of this kit you can buy a decent new e bike with more battery and power.