Don't Talk to Police - When Should You Keep Your Mouth Shut?

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BlackBeltBarrister

2 жыл бұрын

Some people talk to the police, some don't. This is when you should - or shouldn't - talk to the police, and what can happen.
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@JR-th7wq
@JR-th7wq 2 жыл бұрын
I've always worked on the premise "when in doubt say nowt" in all situations.
@johnparish5498
@johnparish5498 2 жыл бұрын
Id reply but im advised to type nothing to incriminate myself… but very good advice
@elmo319
@elmo319 2 жыл бұрын
Best policy for sure, don’t trust the bastard police, they always pretend to be on your side but never are
@aginghacker5602
@aginghacker5602 2 жыл бұрын
Tell Liz Truss 🤦‍♂️
@Pete2635
@Pete2635 2 жыл бұрын
Very wise and sound advice.
@BeHappyWithUrLife
@BeHappyWithUrLife 2 жыл бұрын
This is video needs to be sent to youth & social workers, this information is key for some adolescents who often would run a mouth without knowing consequences. The topic Karma is deserved is well used in the streets today.
@robmo6505
@robmo6505 2 жыл бұрын
When questioned, always assume they're lying to you, the odds are they will be.
@mineblock9024
@mineblock9024 2 жыл бұрын
Lying about what?
@robmo6505
@robmo6505 2 жыл бұрын
@@mineblock9024 Anything that might gain a conviction, eg you were seen committing a crime or we've got you on CCTV or we have your DNA etc.
@joshimitsu96
@joshimitsu96 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@Interdiction
@Interdiction 2 жыл бұрын
@@mineblock9024 Anything and everything
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 жыл бұрын
@@mineblock9024 Lying about what they think like "we know you're lying" even when you know you're telling the truth. Lying about what they claim not to know, lying about their intent, lying about case law.
@AnalogueInTheUK
@AnalogueInTheUK 2 жыл бұрын
The best advice I ever received (from an ex-copper) stated... 'The Police don't care if you did it or not. They just want to nail a face to a crime'. As always, if the Police want 'to chat', you are well within your rights to decline. They will usually move onto the threat of arrest from here, so hold your nerve as they rarely follow through, especially in today's litigious world. Similarly, if arrested, give your details to the desk and request the duty solicitor. Under no circumstances should you speak at this point, even if you feel desperate to tell them something. Don't feel embarrassed or uncomfortable. They certainly do not. I only wish my law lectures, 30 years ago, were as good as your videos! Stay safe.
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 2 жыл бұрын
By all means dont speak..as you say if got the grounds, they will arrest. A colleague of mine did a serious domestic violence case where from a few circumstantial clues thought it was his wife bullying him that led to his actions. However on tape no commented. Presents a problem then if later in a court case introduces that as a defence. I had a case myself where person no commented and then later claimed at court he had been made to carry out offence (but with minimal details). Obviously in court, the detail that this was never raised until day of trial was raised by Crown..it was before rules on pre-hearing statement of case by both sides were strengthened
@AnalogueInTheUK
@AnalogueInTheUK 2 жыл бұрын
@@vanpallandt5799 Yes, the 'no comment' route is a textbook in itself. My knowledge of the nuances of criminal law is somewhat limited. Do you have any idea how written statements/answers to police questions are 'interpreted' by a court? Could this indirectly be used by, say, the prosecution, to infer/imply a part-refusal to answer questions? Would this work against a person or is it equally valid?
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnalogueInTheUK well it depends on the answers doesnt it. If a person says i was at home at the time of the bank robbery and then their mobile cell sites to being outside the bank, then that answer wont have helped them much...they then have to come up with 'i lent it to a friend'..who..dont remember..then phone analysis shows a call 20 mins later to wife..so why was your friend ringing your wife..followed by him calling your mum
@michaelharrison3602
@michaelharrison3602 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be afraid of spending a night in the cells, it's not fun but better than something that could put you away for months or years eventually they have to let you go unless you're seriously bang to rights
@michaelharrison3602
@michaelharrison3602 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnalogueInTheUK yeah never try to be witty funny or ironic with your answers. In court they'll come across like a confession
@youknow6968
@youknow6968 2 жыл бұрын
The shocking part is that you should never laugh or smile with a police officer, as it can amount to a confession. I find that truly shocking, I always thought expressed words were the basis of a confession.
@Phangmaster
@Phangmaster 2 жыл бұрын
I know of nothing more corrupt than the British Police and legal system. They're so immoral and don't even appear to know it. Apparently some other countries are worse, but that's actually beyond my imagination.
@youknow6968
@youknow6968 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phangmaster I won't disagree because my experience is limited, but most of my experience has been pretty good. I honestly think they do a tremendous job, especially being possibly the only police force to operate without carrying guns. But, I can't speak for everyone, I'm sure you have valid points.
@philbo2152
@philbo2152 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phangmaster based on what? Your experience of being employed by a police service or as someone having been arrested or a suspect?
@shookoneldn300
@shookoneldn300 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phangmaster I agree with you 1000% British Police are the most corrupt on the entire planet and pathological liars.. The key difference to “in your face” corrupt police in third world countries is British Police are experts in hiding their corruption to the extent members of the public known as “Police Apologists” will excuse their behaviour and blindly trust the police. True story.. Police stopped me for not wearing my seatbelt whilst I was still strapped in my seatbelt..🤦‍♂️ He started writing out the ticket.. I told him I will tell the judge he’s a liar.. The officer looked at me straight in the face.. saying “who is the judge going to believe, me or two police officers!!!”🤦‍♂️ Even when I tell this story today some people believe I didn’t have my seatbelt on.. British Police know the public blindly trust them so they abuse that trust to the max.. I have had other crazy encounterS with the police but that’s a story for another day.
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phangmaster I am a pretty 'law abiding' person who has never been in trouble with the police but due to the two times I have needed their support and help as a victim of fairly serious crimes they were worse than useless, on one occasion treating me like a criminal and the second taking my property under the auspices of conducting an investigation into who stole it then 'loosing' it leaving me £2500 out of pocket. This might not sound a lot to some people but it is to me. Because of my experiences I will never trust nor speak to the police again. Given recent events I'd say my opinions were born out by what we're finding out about the Met and other forces.
@fontybits
@fontybits 2 жыл бұрын
My father (who would be 121 years old this year!) told me when I was a kid, "Never talk to the police." Having had 2 unwarranted & very unpleasant experiences at their hands, his advice was solid. They'll INVENT things against you.
@1over137
@1over137 2 жыл бұрын
I have had a few odd encounters with police too. Got a missed call for an inspector someone or other while I was on holiday abroad. I called back, but got diverted away like I wasn't meant to be asking to talk to this person and they refused to listen, until I put it to them that I was on holiday, my girlfriend has not been in contact with me for 3 days and I have a missed call from police. I finally got a call from him a day later, saying something cryptic about a wallet found and the only address within it was my previous address. I came up completely blank, unless it belonged to the person that lived there now maybe? I still wonder to this day what was actually going on. I have had friends with similar experiences, police asking random, off the cuff questions about things which don't make any sense to you, not mentioning any investigation or crime and then drifting off and ending the call or thanking you for your time and leaving. I suppose they are following a long shot lead, don't want to give away what they are actually investigating in the hope to not put the person on guard and they might slip up and add merit to the lead. It just makes you feel a bit... manipulated and tricked. Leaves you with an unpleasant image of dodgy manipulative dishonest coppers.
@fontybits
@fontybits 2 жыл бұрын
@@1over137 I was in a pretty busy but REMOTE countryside Scottish pub on a Friday evening, standing having a conversation with a close friend. A total stranger (plain clothes PIG) pushed between us and then assaulted me for no apparent reason. Within 20 SECONDS of me getting up from the floor, two UNIFORMED pigs appeared from behind the bar. We were both charged!!!! Court was disturbed at the PIGS' "response time" and found us both NOT GUILTY. Scum of society.
@gamewithgreg
@gamewithgreg 2 жыл бұрын
@@fontybits anything other stories that never happened?
@fontybits
@fontybits 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamewithgreg Sorry, your comment is vague. I don't understand what you're trying to say.
@banedon8087
@banedon8087 2 жыл бұрын
@@fontybits It kind of sounds a bit made up. might not be, but the way you tell it, it does.
@bloccoaspirale1867
@bloccoaspirale1867 2 жыл бұрын
Always remember that, when interacting with the the police, they are *not* your friend and this is *not* an ordinary conversation.
@darkwoods1954
@darkwoods1954 2 жыл бұрын
When I was doing a delivery job (covered by my employers business insurance) an officer pulled up along side me as I was parked and asked me if he could ''help me''. As soon as I said I was making a delivery he reversed and parked behind me then accused me of not having business insurance even though I tried to tell him I was covered by my employer. He then took my car and left me stranded at 11:30pm miles away from home. The next day I had to pay £150 to get my car back. I will never talk to the police again or help them with anything. You can not talk to them like a human being. They are not your friend. They are out to get anyone they can, it doesn't matter if you're doing anything wrong or not.
@BlueJDev
@BlueJDev 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, to them it's just a game of cat and mouse to us it's our lives!
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n 2 жыл бұрын
I think the police would agree, they are not your friend, do not ever think you need to be nice to them or help them. It's not a game, it's their job to put people in jail.
@esecallum
@esecallum 2 жыл бұрын
they have quotas to fill. evil
@nigelfrancis2514
@nigelfrancis2514 2 жыл бұрын
Got a brother in law recruiting police via zoom interviews can you believe , he’s earning a fortune and reckons a copper get get into uniform without a proper interview . No wonder our prisons are full of them , they’re just turds
@michelle-bx6ji
@michelle-bx6ji 2 жыл бұрын
yes you have to get a different insurance
@AsakuraYukiko
@AsakuraYukiko 2 жыл бұрын
When talking to a policeman you're talking to the uniform but he's trying to get you to talk to him as a friend. Used car salesmen have less power to ruin your life &liberty.
@tweetypie1978
@tweetypie1978 2 жыл бұрын
I would be wary if police were talking to me as a friend because any dealings I have had when it was ME who called them they spoke to me like it must've been my fault that some yobs had vandalised my own property. They were implying that I had fallen out with someone, I insisted that I hadn't and they spoke to me like crud until they asked for my details and when I said what my professional job was they started being nice which made me hate them all the more. I found out myself that it was kids who lived a couple houses away. Police was less than useless.
@michaelharrison3602
@michaelharrison3602 2 жыл бұрын
The police know that most professional crims know the ropes but first time offenders are gullible and naive especially young kids. If you're nicked with a mate the first thing they'll tell you is "he's told us everything and blamed it all on you so you might as well tell us your side and make a statement against him"
@mikewilson2300
@mikewilson2300 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing how utterly broken our criminal justice system is.
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel 2 жыл бұрын
The Police are not part of the Criminal Justice System :/
@michaeljohnson-li5nn
@michaeljohnson-li5nn 2 жыл бұрын
The police speak with you to prove your guilt, not your innocence.
@wjf0ne
@wjf0ne 2 жыл бұрын
michael johnson Nearly true michael. When you do give your alibi they are supposed to look into it to see if in fact you were there when the crime happened or any other fact proving your innocence, but they aren't as enthusiastic in looking into that as they are in trying to prove your guilt. They are supposed to be independent investigators following the evidence but can't be independent when they won't follow your evidence of innocence. Many are simply a disgrace, and it is the so called CID detectives who are the worst as plod doesn't usually get involved in the big stuff. We do need a radical shake up in the police service and the way the Metropolitan Police are behaving and getting caught at it may well be the start of some reforms.
@13thcentury
@13thcentury 2 жыл бұрын
@Non-Stick Pan no, you thick berk. People can be 100% totally innocent and still get arrested. Charged and slung in prison.
@thewaywardgrape3838
@thewaywardgrape3838 2 жыл бұрын
This is best way of phrasing the topic. Brilliant!
@Knack121
@Knack121 9 ай бұрын
But they won’t speak to you about your involvement in a crime unless they have information or some reason to suspect that you may have been involved in that crime. If the info is wrong or you have found yourself in a position to be suspected, an innocent person would point this out.
@elfishmoss1457
@elfishmoss1457 Күн бұрын
​@@Knack121not strictly true, the police will only speak to you about an investigation if they believe you have useful information, that doesn't require that you were actually at all involved
@pstanyer1
@pstanyer1 2 жыл бұрын
As an ex copper never ever talk to the police. Even if it's clear cut... Simple give them a written statement such as as I was in Manchester sign it and walk away. Never speak to them never attend a police station as a volunteer. Always have a solicitor or if you can afford one a blackbelt barrister.
@kalpat5753
@kalpat5753 2 жыл бұрын
And always video the interaction if at all possible and you will then know exactly what was said and done. Don't forget they have body cameras and ask if they are filming you. If yes tell them to keep that video and not delete it.
@mineblock9024
@mineblock9024 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wagering you have never done a days policing in your life
@genericaccount7422
@genericaccount7422 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalpat5753 I believe you also have a right to that bodycam footage from the police, since it should constitute personal data under the Data Protection Act; so you can file a subject access request and get a copy for yourself.
@bobl.1044
@bobl.1044 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalpat5753 Making any recording of them can constitute an offence in their eyes. Plenty cases online about them getting even nastier when they realise they're being filmed
@experiment54
@experiment54 2 жыл бұрын
There is a time when attending as a volunteer to a police station is beneficial to being arrested and brought in.
@damianleah6744
@damianleah6744 2 жыл бұрын
Never been in trouble with the police in my life but I had to speak to them for different reasons from time to time (now in my mid 50s)and I found most of them ( not all) not very bright. At one incident where our bags where stolen from a hotel, one officer suggested putting a non existent Rolex on our insurance claim. Actually encouraging insurance Fraud, fortunately for us the owner of said hotel just reimbursed us for our loss, II was dumbfounded at the time, but it has always stuck with me.
@joshhyyym
@joshhyyym 2 жыл бұрын
That's such a bad idea as Rolex watches are serial numbered, the insurance company would almost certainly expect proof i.e. that you had S/N:xxxxx watch from a recipt, and service record
@damianleah6744
@damianleah6744 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshhyyym I was in shock at the time dealing with our personal belongings being stolen, the the officer came out with this crass statement. It was about 16/17 years ago now. Horrible
@j.burgess4459
@j.burgess4459 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with the bit about many officers not being hugely bright. I remember a case near us a few years back where the police simply assumed someone "must" be guilty because he happened to be walking along the road at roughly the same time a serious offence was committed. The suspect was a person of good character who had never been in any kind of trouble with the law previously, there was no forensic evidence, no motive, he didn't know the victim, there was no link at all between him and the victim. Moreover there was also evidence pointing to innocence - which they ignored. It took the jury about quarter of an hour to acquit. Then some Inspector Bonehead went in front of TV cameras and said: "He may have been found innocent by the court but I can say we aren't looking for anyone else." (Subsequently more competent people from another force re-examined the case and duly identified he real culprit, who was then later convicted.)
@wjf0ne
@wjf0ne 2 жыл бұрын
Damian Leah Perhaps he was testing you. If you had been daft enough to express an interest in following up on his suggestion it would alert him to the fact you were of dodgy character and the alleged theft was perhaps a scam itself.
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 2 жыл бұрын
It was very nice of the hotel owner - they aren't liable for losses over £100 unless the items have been explicitly left with them (liability limit unchanged since the 1950s when no doubt it was a bit more adequate). Police suggesting insurance fraud is a nice one. Must remember.
@kinklesstetrode
@kinklesstetrode 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, a clear summary. I thank you on behalf of all the subscribers, as i know how much time goes in to creating even the most short of videos.
@martingilvray06
@martingilvray06 2 жыл бұрын
I can see you must clearly hang out at the citizens advice office . What was not said and believe is highly important is the divergence between . No comment interview and a silent interview , and the clear impact to you . BlackBeltBarrister is only got a few more Vids before I unsercrhbe , it seems to me he does not want upset the apple kart and maybe he is not getting many apples 🍎 from his chambers .
@paulamos8970
@paulamos8970 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, informative as ever and an eye-opener!
@kimberleyjanemcnab5343
@kimberleyjanemcnab5343 2 жыл бұрын
Learned this the hard way! As I called someone an “donkey rip” I was the one charged with assault even it was them who chased me down and assaulted me and I had reported them to the police. I was also threatened with being arrested for saying that “the law is an ass” after this however this was dropped by the police officer (after I had said this several times,with warnings from her) after I pointed out that I was only quoting Charles Dickens from, I think The Pickwick Papers. A widely recognised quote of over 100 years and that I really did not believe that it would stand up in court... the officer back-tracked once I informed her that I was in fact quoting Dickens!🤦🏻‍♀️🤔 I now NEVER let the police into my house for anything and would never trust an officer!
@Krzyszczynski
@Krzyszczynski 2 жыл бұрын
Do be careful when quoting! The exact wording of your one is "the law is A ass" (not "an" ass), uttered by Mr Bumble in Oliver Twist. Not that those scuffers were likely to have read the thing and know the difference.
@TallSilentGuy
@TallSilentGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf does "donkey rip" mean?
@kimberleyjanemcnab5343
@kimberleyjanemcnab5343 2 жыл бұрын
@@TallSilentGuy another name for a donkey beginning with A another name for a rip that begins with H... a word KZfaq doesn’t like!
@michaelharrison3602
@michaelharrison3602 2 жыл бұрын
@@Krzyszczynski yeah it is Bumble the beadle
@BeHappyWithUrLife
@BeHappyWithUrLife 2 жыл бұрын
This is video needs to be sent to youth & social workers, this information is key for some adolescents who often would run a mouth without knowing consequences. The topic Karma is deserved is well used in the streets today.
@sallybennett7869
@sallybennett7869 2 жыл бұрын
Avoid contact with the corrupt ones at all costs, even if that means chewing your own arm off!!
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is how to tell the corrupt ones from the non-corrupt ones...
@BigButtocks967
@BigButtocks967 2 жыл бұрын
If they carry a badge chances are they will be corrupt. Sad but true.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, of course, the corrupt ones. Do they wear a badge saying "I am a corrupt police officer"?
@heartfelt111
@heartfelt111 2 жыл бұрын
If there were more good than bad, there wouldnt be any bad.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 жыл бұрын
@@heartfelt111 That's an excellent way of putting it.
@pnyarrow
@pnyarrow 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge in a way mr Jo Public and me can understand. Stay safe. ATB.
@raymondo162
@raymondo162 2 жыл бұрын
omg. there have been occasions where that might have been an issue. i learnd a useful lesson again. thx
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 2 жыл бұрын
My only ever court involvement had a policeman perjuring himself. Hilariously my father had the same experience 30 years earlier. They LIE. And think nothing of it.
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 2 жыл бұрын
They are not the only ones. Look at our "elected representatives"...
@gwarlow
@gwarlow 2 жыл бұрын
Some seem to think that “enforcing the law”, actually means “above the law”. Probably only a small percentage, but still a dangerous attitude. Great video. An eye-opener for many, I suspect. Cheers.
@Krzyszczynski
@Krzyszczynski 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think much of it either.
@tweetypie1978
@tweetypie1978 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a question about the police. I'm a good girl I've no criminal history and I need a clean CRB for my profession. My brother is a pain who has always been in trouble with the police, he's been to prison and the police know him well. He was in trouble a while ago and asked if he could be bailed to my address. I said no! No chance! But the police kept my address on his file and next time he was in trouble they were knocking at my door all the time looking for him. I overheard them- one had gone round the bk and one was at the front and he said 'what does SHE look like' implying that I might look like a down and out. I was furious. I told them I hadn't seen him for months and I don't see him. They said that my house was his bail. I explained I had refused that and told them to stop coming round. They said they would not stop coming because I was therefore an associate as he knew my address. I am his sister, not an associate and I cannot help who my relatives are. I have since moved so it no longer matters but I was so angry at the time and I rang the police station to complain. They also said that they could not take my address off his file and they couldn't do anything. Are they allowed to do this!? It seems like they were harassing me for no reason other than I am related to a numpty
@andytaurus62
@andytaurus62 2 жыл бұрын
Had similar with a brother inlaw problem was a gang of travellers were after blood they stole all my DVD's lol
@tweetypie1978
@tweetypie1978 2 жыл бұрын
@Kris Nicholson I'm not his next of kin. They asked me if he could be bailed and I said no I don't want him at my house. If they wanted to look I wouldn't have a problem. To be honest it was their attitude that really infuriated me. I've got kids and I shouldn't have to have police knocking at my door for something that has fa to do with me. I can't help who I'm related to, I don't see him or associate with him. He only contacts me if he's wanting something
@wjf0ne
@wjf0ne 2 жыл бұрын
Em 1982 Perhaps you could obtain a court order excluding him from your home. It may go some way to proving to the police that he is persona non grata and that you would be more likely to phone them should he appear than assist him. It would also be on record so they perhaps couldn't bail him to your address. Perhaps the BBB could provide you with better advise, although we do know plod love to enter property on every occasion possible in case you leave your stash of drugs or all those stolen items you have out in plain view for them to see.
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately for you, most criminals ARE helped by family members to evade capture, and are usually the only ones the numpty trusts. Plus if they can list family members and show an address, they are more likely to get lower bail or get released before a court date. Ties to the community, that's you. Like it or not.
@tweetypie1978
@tweetypie1978 2 жыл бұрын
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n I've moved now so it doesn't matter anymore. I was just really annoyed with them at the time. Listing family members as ties to the community is no excuse. I don't see him and if I knew where he was I would tell them. They came round and asked me in person if he could be bailed to my address I said no so he went to our grandmother's. They are then saying that my house is his bail address when it was not. I have disowned him, police aren't going to find him or anything else at my house but it's embarrassing at the end of the day. Like I said I have moved so it's no longer an issue, it just really annoyed me at the time. Mostly their accusatory attitude and lying that it was his bail address when it wasn't
@inconceivabledark
@inconceivabledark 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clarity.
@gordongourlay7423
@gordongourlay7423 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for all the information.
@whatsmine7848
@whatsmine7848 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re dealing with Essex police the first and only thing you should say is “I want my lawyer”
@gravemind6536
@gravemind6536 2 жыл бұрын
That goes for any police force.
@ZeonEons
@ZeonEons 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny because a lot of known criminals say that
@andkyrmar
@andkyrmar 2 жыл бұрын
My experience with the police is such that I would never offer myself up in assisting with a crime, no matter how serious. If I saw a police constable in some kind of difficulty, I’d walk on by as a means to protecting myself.
@geordiewishart1683
@geordiewishart1683 2 жыл бұрын
Well then I hope you never complain that no one was there to help you when you needed it.
@andkyrmar
@andkyrmar 2 жыл бұрын
@@geordiewishart1683 absolutely not. I’ll make them do their job and hold them accountable at every turn.
@Black.Sabbath
@Black.Sabbath 2 жыл бұрын
And what about reporting a crime?
@colinwilliams4338
@colinwilliams4338 2 жыл бұрын
I would just walk past and laugh at the knob.
@ZeonEons
@ZeonEons 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the point. Assisting with a crime, as a witness is very important. Esp if you witnessed the crime itself and withheld that, only later it came to light you were found out to have first hand knowledge, you'll be charged with a crime relating to that.
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the UK has similar laws but in the US you can be charged with conspiracy to commit a crime. Talking to others about a theoretical crime at the pub, no matter how outlandish or unlikely, you can be arrested.
@healthiswealth8153
@healthiswealth8153 2 жыл бұрын
so guilty before a crime is committed typically backwards American law
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n 2 жыл бұрын
@@healthiswealth8153 I think it might be the basis for the concepts of thought police and Big Brother. In general, it is a charge used after the crime is committed so they can arrest more people, like the "Mastermind" who didn't physically participate. Also under talking-is-criminal, Charles Manson was charged with murder but wasn't at the scene; he TOLD them to do it.
@Interdiction
@Interdiction 2 жыл бұрын
@@healthiswealth8153 If you want backwards law then look no further than the UK
@CaptainCopwatch
@CaptainCopwatch 2 жыл бұрын
conspiricy is a crime in the uk too.
@misterbonzoid5623
@misterbonzoid5623 2 жыл бұрын
Conspiracy was made a crime in the UK in the mid 70s in response to the actions of The Angry Brigade I belive.
@Levermonkey
@Levermonkey 2 жыл бұрын
Yet another reason why autistics tend to have unfortunate interactions with the police. We don't make eye contact, we don't like people being too close, we often (through alexithymia and poor theory of mind) have the "wrong" expression on our faces - all this counts against us in the eyes of a police officer because "we look suspicious/shifty/concealing something."
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 жыл бұрын
The courts convict based on evidence (supposedly), but the police investigate based on their prejudice.
@Black.Sabbath
@Black.Sabbath 2 жыл бұрын
Try having social anxiety, which as you can tell by the video, is not irrational.
@Levermonkey
@Levermonkey 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black.Sabbath Most autistics suffer from both general and social anxiety, many have situational non-vocality, and a high proportion of late diagnosed autistics have complex post traumatic stress disorder (cPTSD). If INTP is your profile you might find doing the AQ50 interesting (assuming that you haven't already).
@softailfun
@softailfun 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll admit I got this wrong years ago. Should have kept my mouth shut other than for the words “I want a lawyer”!!
@michaelkiddle3149
@michaelkiddle3149 2 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone say something like that to a police officer it's asking for trouble Stay calm and think before you open your mouth
@robmo6505
@robmo6505 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong! Stay calm and think before you keep your mouth shut.
@gravemind6536
@gravemind6536 2 жыл бұрын
The 1st thing you do is ask for a solicitor.
@robmo6505
@robmo6505 2 жыл бұрын
@@gravemind6536 Correct... And then Stay calm and think before you keep your mouth shut.
@martingilvray06
@martingilvray06 2 жыл бұрын
What I thought BlackBeltBarrister May get into on this Vid was the difference between no Comment and a right to silence interview and the directives from CPS on the two.Being a subscriber from the start of his channel it’s all a bit citizens advice and wishy washy at that . Is it me or is just another clown 🤡.
@Black.Sabbath
@Black.Sabbath 2 жыл бұрын
@@martingilvray06 Well, why do anything for free.
@nigelduckworth406
@nigelduckworth406 2 жыл бұрын
Admissions and confessions are an exception to the hearsay rule, so anyone to whom you make a confession or partial confession can give that evidence in court and it would be admissible. The partial confession-"he deserved it", for instance, would not be enough on its own to convict. It would have to be allied to some other admissible evidence such as identification of the suspect in order to support a prosecution. But if there was only identification evidence and nothing else, the court would look for supporting evidence to show that the I.D. was correct and a partial confession might, in some circumstances, provide just that support. Very sound advice in this video.
@Johnsmith-ko9yj
@Johnsmith-ko9yj 2 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS film any interactions you have with the police, say nothing and wait for your solicitor ( unless it's a public defender, why? they work with the police to secure a conviction ).
@user-gv5tq9xj3l8
@user-gv5tq9xj3l8 2 жыл бұрын
Please could you clarify me what a public defender Please
@soupdragonuk
@soupdragonuk 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-gv5tq9xj3l8 that is basically someone the state pays for. They're usually very overworked and the chances of you getting off using one are slim to 'are you having a laugh'
@user-gv5tq9xj3l8
@user-gv5tq9xj3l8 2 жыл бұрын
@@soupdragonuk Thank you mate 👍 🤝
@BigButtocks967
@BigButtocks967 2 жыл бұрын
John smith: A friend of mine did that 2 years ago, he filmed 4 police officers violently arresting a man so he got his phone out and filmed it, when the police saw this they “legally” seized his phone as evidence, to this day he’s never got the phone back as it’s “part of an ongoing investigation”.
@shookoneldn300
@shookoneldn300 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigButtocks967 His phone wasn’t ceased it was stolen.. the police are the biggest criminal gang in the country.. Get a solicitor to sue and get your phone back.. same with laptops, phones and hard drives.. police can always take a copy or take an image then return your item.. I will strongly recommend you sell any item police turn to you on eBay.. never trust them bastards.. 😂😂😂
@jrrussell9070
@jrrussell9070 2 жыл бұрын
Said before just finished a 2 week jury service. Was a serious case and upsetting. The man was found guilty. But the defence barrister ripped the police to bits with their huge mistakes. Every detail you lot are scary. LOL. Respect.
@BlackBeltBarrister
@BlackBeltBarrister 2 жыл бұрын
🙏
@geordiewishart1683
@geordiewishart1683 2 жыл бұрын
I won't ask you for details but from experience, defence barristers are skilled at making it appear that police are inept. Quite often, this is a smoke screen or a distraction method. I have seen barristers question police whilst the barristers are holding some legislation. They ask police if they are aware of whatever legislation or power it was that they used or relief on. They will indicate yes. As in a working knowledge. Police are not memory masters. The barrister will ask the police to then quote verbatim from the legislation which they are holding. When police fail to be fully accurate, this is seized upon. Ah if you don't know this law, how can the court be certain that you acted correctly......etc etc. All bluff.
@jrrussell9070
@jrrussell9070 2 жыл бұрын
@@geordiewishart1683 Thanks for reply. The barrister was clutching at straws the evidence was there hence the guilty verdict. But I must say they mess your head up and make you think. I suppose that is why there are 12 jurors.
@nickcoppard5335
@nickcoppard5335 2 жыл бұрын
It will soon become difficult to get a jury to convict anyone as the public know the police to be liars
@jrrussell9070
@jrrussell9070 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickcoppard5335 Maybe true. You hear both sides and you end up in a mess.
@mazthegob2653
@mazthegob2653 2 жыл бұрын
Also never get a duty solicitor but a solicitor that deals especially with what you've been arrested on also I never take a cortion ever
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 2 жыл бұрын
albeit that for example i once did an interview where the person was represented by a solicitor who was the country Police Federation solicitor. Great solicitor as he knew all the tactics but not sure 'i hate coppers and anyone linked to them' types would want him
@colinscutt5104
@colinscutt5104 2 жыл бұрын
DO NOT TALK TO ANY OF THEM unless it is absolutely essential then use minimum words , yes-no answers do not volunteer any information they dont ask for they are ALL waiting for you to say something-anything that can be used to accuse you
@ZeonEons
@ZeonEons 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, i wasn't there at this time, or at all. I made several phone calls, in this location 100miles away at that exact time and I walked into several shops, which I'll name, all with CCTV. Few hours later, you are no longer a suspect.
@matthewsmith2787
@matthewsmith2787 Жыл бұрын
What is classed as absolutely essential?
@colinscutt5104
@colinscutt5104 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewsmith2787 if you call them for whatever, there's a road accident you witness etc
@jackwalker5266
@jackwalker5266 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewsmith2787 If you have evidence that you were not in a location of interest, then state that and provide the relevant information so they can check. You absolutely should always volunteer information of your innocence. The investigator needs to check everything you say, regardless if you lie or tell the truth. Most people who are advocating to not talk to the police, is if you can't really prove anything and you know you cannot. That's where you could end up in a mess. So it's better to then seek legal counsel and a lawyer will only ask if you may think you could have been implicated by some evidence or someone. If yes to either, you'll likely be told to not say another word to the investigator or too begin with If you are guilty, it's irrelevant. You know you are guilty, so it's a choice to convince one person that you aren't or face the trial that will likely convict
@mrqwerty65
@mrqwerty65 Жыл бұрын
This is the best video you have done by a country mile. Thank you
@ivandavies1388
@ivandavies1388 2 жыл бұрын
That is one of the best advice videos I have ever seen!
@anthonyfitzgerald8201
@anthonyfitzgerald8201 2 жыл бұрын
At what point during ANY criminal proceedings would you ever have to prove your innocence. If the police came and said that thing about the assault in Manchester and you said you weren't there, is it up to you to prove you weren't there or is it up to the po,ice to prove you were
@davidspear9790
@davidspear9790 2 жыл бұрын
They can and will tell you anything that shifts the burden of proof on to you, eg 'We've got cctv footage of you in the area of the crime. Can you explain that?'
@geordiewishart1683
@geordiewishart1683 2 жыл бұрын
David, police are not allowed to make up lies about the nature of any evidence they have. If they do have cctv footage of you being in the area, then this is good circumstantial evidence against you. It might not show you committing the crime but it does put you at or near the scene. Unlikely to convict you if that is all there is. But good corroborating evidence if there is other proof against you. You don't have to make comment about the footage or why you were there. But if you are innocent and were indeed in the area, now during interview is the perfect opportunity to say what you were doing. If you say nothing and it goes to court then even though you are being truthful in the explanation you give about your innocent presence there, the court can correctly not believe you.
@pawelnotts
@pawelnotts 2 жыл бұрын
@@geordiewishart1683 Even if they're not allowed they can still do it? If they lie about the evidence they have then surely they can just deny lying about it?
@ZeonEons
@ZeonEons 2 жыл бұрын
They have to prove it was you. They wouldn't randomly knock on any door unless they had Information that lead them there through the evidence. If you do then go on to explain you've never seen or met this person, never was in Manchester on the date accused and time, then there's nothing the police can do at this point. They have nothing to hold you on. They would need further evidence to pursue you. A picture (CCTV or phone), ticket (travel) atm transaction, time stamped, etc, that places you at the scene of the crime
@philo8040
@philo8040 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent - I would like to see more videos like this i.e. what we should do in situations
@ZeonEons
@ZeonEons 2 жыл бұрын
It's a case by case scenario. Never will the same rules apply for each person. Serious crimes are understandably difficult and 9times out of 10, the police have the right suspect, matched with supporting evidence. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to arrest, charge etc.
@qualityengineeringsolution8148
@qualityengineeringsolution8148 2 жыл бұрын
That was a excellent video. Excellent advice.
@Ztandard32
@Ztandard32 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, explained well. Thanks.
@leedsman54
@leedsman54 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful to know , thank you.
@ciaran134
@ciaran134 2 жыл бұрын
I say nothing to the police when i got questioned. I say I seen it but not wanting involved or to appear in court as a witness. They just left me alone
@Krzyszczynski
@Krzyszczynski 2 жыл бұрын
“I have never been hurt by what I have not said.” - Calvin Coolidge, US President 1923-29. (He's also said to have remarked "What I don't say can't get me into trouble".)
@Black.Sabbath
@Black.Sabbath 2 жыл бұрын
Does that also mean you don't regret the things you don't do?
@lennybogart
@lennybogart 2 жыл бұрын
*Hello BlackBeltBarister!* 👋👋 So, I watched all the way to the end and I noticed when you said that ‘confessions can be very powerful’. This is somewhat obvious, as the police always love to get a confession off offenders, but I think there’s also a _’hierarchy of confessions’_ and a statement that is _’partly’_ detrimental to oneself is less powerful as a confession than a statement that is _’wholly’_ detrimental to oneself. So if the police do arrive at your doorstep with an allegation such as the ‘Manchester’ example provided in the video, then a statement such as ‘he deserved it’ is nowhere near as powerful as ‘yeah, it was me mate!’ Thanks for the advice though because I never knew this and the last thing I want to do is to lead the police on with accidental partial confessions...😉👍
@Black.Sabbath
@Black.Sabbath 2 жыл бұрын
Is he saying the word "karma" shows motive?
@philipmonaghan8267
@philipmonaghan8267 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm! Most interesting, thank you!!
@romanbrough
@romanbrough 2 жыл бұрын
Many years ago there was a copper talking on a TV show. He said his least effective interview was with a young woman. He was almost sure she knew something about a crime. She simply stared at the ceiling and did not say a single word.
@Black.Sabbath
@Black.Sabbath 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like me. So simple yet effective.
@markpaul1154
@markpaul1154 2 жыл бұрын
The Charging triangle. Complete 3 corners and you can be charged. Question 1 Were you there at said time at said place) Yes Question 2 Question 2 were you involved with the incident Yes move to question 3 Question 3 Do you admit or deny the incident is down to you. All 3 answered Yes = charged 1+2 answer yes and 3 no, find a witness who can answer question 3 that you were responsible = Charged.
@notmenotme614
@notmenotme614 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is people like her don’t want to learn the error of their ways. And some people will keep on reoffending if they know they’ll get away with it. The only thing they’ll listen to or are worried about is harsh punishment.
@cj8415
@cj8415 2 жыл бұрын
Rice v. Connolly (1966) is an English legal precedent holding that there is no strict, general legal duty to assist a police officer prior to any possible arrest or caution, with even basic police enquiries nor to accompany the officer to a requested location.
@martinbobfrank
@martinbobfrank 2 жыл бұрын
I was brought up that telling the truth is a must and going to the toilet before going out. Even now, it is hard to overcome the training from childhood. I don't know whether this is true, but in a documentary I saw it stated not to talk to a policeman under question. Wow, opposite to my early training. Apparently, they are only asking because they have no evidence; even if they say they do have. If they did they would charge you whether you spoke to them or not. If you are not a trained barrister you are definitely going to say something incriminating even if you are fully innocent. Some officers will even bend the truth or what you said to guarantee they can charge you. It makes them look good, and who cares about you anyway.
@geordiewishart1683
@geordiewishart1683 2 жыл бұрын
Martin, no offence but you sound like another person on social media who just keeps these old wives tales alive, thereby eroding trust between police and public. Police are not allowed to lie or misrepresent the evidence. We are not America. Any case would likely be dismissed if they told a lie regarding the evidence against you. And they are obliged to put any evidence to you so that you get an opportunity to comment on it. It is just not true to say that they only question you whenever they have no evidence.
@andkyrmar
@andkyrmar 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very accurate summary. I was in a situation where I told the truth because I was promised by the police that would ensure just a caution (for what was a minor offence). I asked if I needed a solicitor but they told me that was my choice and if I answer the questions I’d be “let off” anyway. After the interview I was charged and up in front of a magistrate the following week and then convicted. I got a fine and a lovely criminal record to follow me around for the rest of my life. Had I have known that a) the police had no evidence and b) I could only be charged based on what I said, it goes without saying I’d have denied everything and walked out and not have bagged a criminal record. I’ve had people tell me that if I did the crime I deserved it. Well, it’s up to them if they want to cast the first stone. Everyone breaks the law, often unknowingly. We make mistakes but sometimes the consequences can outweighs the crime by far. I was young and incredibly naive. Hindsight, I’d never have trusted the police. I will never trust them again and have warned my nieces and nephews of what they should and should not do if they are ever arrested.
@martinbobfrank
@martinbobfrank 2 жыл бұрын
@@andkyrmar My favourite uncle is a retired detective sergeant, and my brother is a sergeant in the police. I love them both and trust them completely. I am not anti-police, but do you trust that officer sitting opposite you. I have always told my children to trust the police and just be honest with them. I now don't think I gave them good advice, and they are now in their early thirties. Now my advice would be to shut up and wait for your lawyer or even better barrister. But, be nice as the majority of the police are human and nice. Some are bad though! You have suffered from the same advice I gave my young children, and learned the hard way.
@katystewart2616
@katystewart2616 2 жыл бұрын
My girl got 3year term...she wanted to explain what had happened (the truth) ....unfortunately found guilty...we are heartbroken it happened and I let her down yet again by saying that she would be fine if she just told the truth ☹️ Also a 4 year driving ban☹️
@Black.Sabbath
@Black.Sabbath 2 жыл бұрын
What for?
@stegra5960
@stegra5960 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the main reason for saying nothing was that any allegation easily proved to be false would not be presented by the prosecution should the case go to trial. Without this information the prosecution's position would be immediately weakened by making claims that can be proven to be false, particularly in the eyes of a jury. The standard reply when asked why this wasn't mentioned during questioning being that a solicitor had advised that the defendant remained silent.
@oldgolfpunk
@oldgolfpunk 2 жыл бұрын
If the police are talking to you, it's because they suspect you of something, they are not wanting to make friends. Say nothing at all, produce a written statement for them. Seriously folks this is very basic legal advice 🙄
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 2 жыл бұрын
00:45 Bad example... ... if the police have a witness who claims to have seen and recognised you in Manchester, saying you weren’t there could be used as proof of your lying. This is a specific example given in the famous “never talk to police” KZfaq video.
@BlackBeltBarrister
@BlackBeltBarrister 2 жыл бұрын
If you were not there - say you were not there! 🤷‍♂️ People can and do make it difficult for themselves...
@wjf0ne
@wjf0ne 2 жыл бұрын
Fred Bloggs Is that the USA video of the law prof and then the cop speaking. The prof is brilliant the cop is just a swaggering blow hard who says if he wants you he will get you. Excellent viewing even though it is a USA video.
@ianhughes7805
@ianhughes7805 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent thank you
@DKthailand1812
@DKthailand1812 2 жыл бұрын
I was on Jury duty over 15 years ago, the remarks made by the defendant when the police turned up to his door step meant, as the jury we had to convict him. There was no other evidence really but his own confession when the police turned up.
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 2 жыл бұрын
No other evidence really..how do you mean. Its for example common to say there was only circumstantial evidence against someone.
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 2 жыл бұрын
If those remarks were disputed, then you did not have to convict. Report the matter to the Criminal Cases Review Commission if you have doubts about the decision.
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdMcF1 some of these comments on occasion on YT are rather like a QandA session I was reading on Google from a Spanish legal firm that represents non-Spanish nationals. The guy said words to effect of 'I was living in Spain illegally, was caught, told to leave, carried on living there and then was arrested, released on bail and now having left the country, have been told to return for court. Why are they treating me like I committed a crime? The Defence solicitor's reply was 'You were living in Spain illegally. Thanks for your enquiry'
@meghanparry6270
@meghanparry6270 2 жыл бұрын
If you are arrested you are told you have the right to remain silent. The next thing the police say is what’s you name, D.O.B and address, if you remain silent they demand you speak and further arrest you for not giving your details. It seem there is no right to remain silent. If you could remain silent, you could not be convinced unless held until the court appearance.
@eggyboy123
@eggyboy123 2 жыл бұрын
Many years ago I was given that very advice by two people; one a chief inspector, and the other became a chief superindent
@geordiewishart1683
@geordiewishart1683 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago a chief constable told me to trust police. And he outranks your two.
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 2 жыл бұрын
@@geordiewishart1683 I daresay he ranks with the highest in Rome.
@Black.Sabbath
@Black.Sabbath 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm
@marksanders3659
@marksanders3659 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you can’t win whether you talk to them or stay silent. I once agreed to give an interview on the basis that it would be a “no comment” interview as no-one had asked them to press any charges (yet). Obviously there was no point in saying anything that might incriminate myself when it was a possibility no action would be taken at that point. BUT, I only agreed to that interview on the basis that if the third party wanted them to press charges, then they’d interview me again so I could explain things in my defence. Once I’d given the interview, the pc went away to speak to his Sergeant. He came back and said you can go now, to which my solicitor said, let us if and when to come back in for another interview, to which the pc said, no, that won’t happen. So, basically, they will outright lie and use any trickery possible, and, if like me you’ve never been in any trouble before, then you’re not prepared to combat such despicable underhand tactics.
@ZeonEons
@ZeonEons 2 жыл бұрын
You won't win eitherway if you are responsible for a serious crime. The court system is far worse than the interrogation. You either have to lie to your lawyer or tell the truth so he or she can best lay down a defense. Any questions that were not answered in an interrogation get repeated to you again in court and you must have an answer for each one of them. Your lawyer will not be able to help in this regard as he or she doesn't know what you know or don't know. They just want to be present when you mess up, so they can minimise the damage
@richardgiles2484
@richardgiles2484 2 жыл бұрын
As you say. Best say nothing to be on the safe side 👍
@ladypip
@ladypip 2 жыл бұрын
🤗 many thank.
@xTerminatorAndy
@xTerminatorAndy 2 жыл бұрын
I liked this video. Thank you
@gixer1300busaboy
@gixer1300busaboy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I watched this.
@eastlondonhustler
@eastlondonhustler 2 жыл бұрын
Section 76, subsection 4 a "Where the confession is relevant as showing that the accused speaks, writes, or expresses *himself* in a particular way, of so much of the confession as is necessary to show that *he* does so. Suggests that this rule does not apply to females.
@tommo101able
@tommo101able 2 жыл бұрын
i have a question, i love Midsummer Murders and in several episodes it shows the detective sitting in someones house talking to them and his assistant is just noseing through some drawers, my friend said that they cannot do this without permission they would need a search warrent, is that corect
@mikemawdsley1256
@mikemawdsley1256 2 жыл бұрын
does this advice apply to covid party attendance and should a person fill out a questionaire
@kenjohnson6338
@kenjohnson6338 2 жыл бұрын
At some stage.. can you explain PACE... in some detail of its origin and purpose to its legality please....,
@bobadams7654
@bobadams7654 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not even going to say how much I enjoyed the video.
@mrichards913
@mrichards913 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice
@alexboyes3275
@alexboyes3275 2 жыл бұрын
Police aren’t going to question someone when they have enough evidence to convict or charge.
@tonedcos
@tonedcos 2 жыл бұрын
Off topic, could you clarify (if you havn't already) what having a charge stricken off means, for context, i was charged with possesion of a small amount of weed, as it was my first offence and such a small amount, a very nice lady judge gave me a 100 euro fine and stuck my case. Does that mean no convictions will appear on my file? PS, i live in the Republic or Eire, but i believe we use the British judicial protocols.
@glynworsley8639
@glynworsley8639 2 жыл бұрын
Well explained.
@roymillsjnr5172
@roymillsjnr5172 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers my good man 👍👍
@johntreadwell6846
@johntreadwell6846 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 👍
@pirateboyfearless
@pirateboyfearless 2 жыл бұрын
"Anything you do say may be given in evidence" it doesnt say to clear you or aid your defence because they are not looking for anything other than an easy conviction.
@philbo2152
@philbo2152 2 жыл бұрын
Where does that appear in the police caution in this country? Sounds like you’ve been watching too many US cop shows
@pirateboyfearless
@pirateboyfearless 2 жыл бұрын
@@philbo2152 its litterally the last line of it.
@markcallaghan8389
@markcallaghan8389 2 жыл бұрын
i did not realize that if you even as much smirked or laughed you could be implicated in a crime even if you where not physically there
@Black.Sabbath
@Black.Sabbath 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt that alone would secure a conviction.
@tarka99
@tarka99 2 жыл бұрын
What about if the police speak to you because you know the people involved and they question you as a witness? Should you not speak to them incase you say something that might be taken the wrong way?
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 2 жыл бұрын
There's a great vid on YT by a fast-talking US law professor 'Don't talk to the police' (He almost sounds like he's one of Top Cat's pals), and I'm sure Prince Andrew has seen the video, I would say that if you do talk to them, it is at your own risk, never underestimate how much they despise you as not being one of them.
@claverhouse1
@claverhouse1 2 жыл бұрын
Outwith a S.172 RTA 1988 requirement, there are only five pieces of information anyone requires to give to the police, name, address, date of birth, place of birth and nationality and other than that they have an absolute right to silence which they should ALWAYS use. In Scotland Because "the UK" does not have universal laws.
@FilmFan-iv7sz
@FilmFan-iv7sz 2 жыл бұрын
This is why when interviewed by police if arrested sat nothing. As then nothing can be misunderstood or twisted.
@shedendman
@shedendman 2 жыл бұрын
Sec 76 sub 4 part b reads HIMSELF and that HE does,no HERSELF or SHE?
@danielcox3152
@danielcox3152 2 жыл бұрын
I was stopped by the police, there was a burglary recently. I said it wasn't me. Which it wasn't. The the officer asked for my name and address and w as holding my arm too. Which annoyed me a bit. I didn't show it though. I said I have security clearance for cleaning Building Societies. The officer soon said sorry for taking up your time
@WhosPhotoTube
@WhosPhotoTube 2 жыл бұрын
A good trick of the police to mention Manchester, "I wasn't in Manchester" you just told them you were somewhere else, you volunteered information they may use against you? Be careful.
@saydvoncripps
@saydvoncripps 2 жыл бұрын
So, if someone you dont like gets roughed up, say nothing more than nope, I want a lawyer. But what if you talk about someone being roughed up? What if you are taped talking having someone beaten up. Is that a crime? I thought is was. But didnt boris johnson discuss having a journalist beaten up on the phone with someone? How did that not result in a charge? I've always wondered. Not political, just a real question.
@JGZ.
@JGZ. 2 жыл бұрын
Always keep your mouth shut unless you have legal representation or you require their assistance. So many instances of forced confessions and innocent people in jail
@stephenhunt8389
@stephenhunt8389 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification. Very useful to know what the rules are. Even if the rules are stupid. On a more general point, people should have respect for the law - but this is impossible when the law is ludicrous. What's coming in "The Online Harms Bill" seems ludicrous and Orwellian. Specifically, if "psychological harm" (offence ?) occurs, then the instigator of this "harm" is guilty. Totally subjective, open to huge abuse, ludicrous and stupid. Not a great combination.
@1979jon
@1979jon 2 жыл бұрын
I had a melt down and got picked up by two police officers at 3am got taken to the station, never been in trouble with the police before. Didn't get arrested they where ok to be fair., was not rude to them and very polite.
@davidspear9790
@davidspear9790 2 жыл бұрын
Given that you had no 'previous' and the time of day and your attitude, they may have been advised by their superior to take no further action. Note, I say 'advised'. Advice doesn't need to be taken.....
@lucretiuscaro
@lucretiuscaro 2 жыл бұрын
Even if it was a clear-cut case where they cannot prove your involvement, I'd never speak with the police without my lawyer. Why? By invoking your right to remain silent you do not put yourself at risk of saying the wrong thing even if you thought it was for the right reason. Or put it more simply, by talking to the police there is a risk you might end up worse off than keeping your mouth shut.
@normalwisdom4048
@normalwisdom4048 2 жыл бұрын
*It's the Police's job to prove your guilt, even if you are guilty NEVER ASSIST THEM in their quest* 🤫
@frankgardiner5002
@frankgardiner5002 2 жыл бұрын
I understand what your saying but that section of pace needs looking at as by the same level if I say Ohh that's terrible how could any one do such a thing, then surely going by the logic of section 82 my statement if I was to go to court should be read out and used to the same degree as if I was to say he deserved what he got etc.
@delbertstringbreaker7686
@delbertstringbreaker7686 2 жыл бұрын
As regards trusting the police this reminds me of the case reported in the papers a few years ago when a chap had a knock at the door. The officer at the door said that they had noticed his car parked on the driveway and wanted to know if it was all right for them to do a safety check on it. The chap said he had no objection to which the officer replied that due to regulations the test had to be done on the road and would he mind moving it there. This the man duly did and a technician began his inspection. When the inspection was completed the officer knocked at the door and told the owner that the car windscreen washer was empty. As the owner was thanking the policeman the policeman added that as this was an offence on the public highway he would have to issue a ticket for the statutory £50 fine...
@KiwiCatherineJemma
@KiwiCatherineJemma 2 жыл бұрын
(1). This is probably just a bullshit old wives tale, and (2) It wouldn't surprise me if it happened at least once, somewhere, and is absobloodylutely true !
@matthewsmith2787
@matthewsmith2787 Жыл бұрын
I remember years ago, a parent was threatening to go to the police because I said he had small man syndrome. Next thing I know two police officers come to the door, and want to speak to me. They said we have had reports, I said what evidence do you have about this? They actually agreed that there was no evidence, but had to try and ask me questions. I said, if there is no evidence then I am refusing to answer. They just said that was the end of the matter and it worked
@georgebuller1914
@georgebuller1914 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a motoring offence - 'back in the day' - and having had the charge read out to me, I stated "Not guilty - as charged!" because the charge wasn't completely accurate - I still lost the case though! :-(
@TheJSB007
@TheJSB007 2 жыл бұрын
So what you're implying here, is that if someone was accused of a crime and the subject was mentioned on social media and the audience reacted with comments or emoji's then that would associate the audience to the crime and could lead to being prosecuted or imprisoned?
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 2 жыл бұрын
In theory and in an extreme case yes. However, bear in mind that criminal convictions should be based on evidence "beyond reasonable doubt". Me posting a 😏 icon on a KZfaq video talking about the presence of Boris Johnson next to a Prosecco bottle in December 2020 is not evidence of anything, since I (fortunately) have never met Mr Johnson or ever had anything to do with him or his acolytes.
@Black.Sabbath
@Black.Sabbath 2 жыл бұрын
@@dlevi67 Well in that case it's nowhere near as unreasonable as he was implying.
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black.Sabbath What, having a party in December 2020?
@ony583
@ony583 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@BlackBeltBarrister
@BlackBeltBarrister 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ony583
@ony583 2 жыл бұрын
@BlackBeltBarrister That was a lot of very valuable information you packed into such a short video, is there any chance you could you do a video where you explain the six necessary conditions prior to an adverse inference being drawn in circumstances where there has been a failure to mention a relevant fact when questioned please?
@MrDazzlerdarren
@MrDazzlerdarren 2 жыл бұрын
.....sounds pretty much like what a person who was in Manchester yesterday would say to me Sir......
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail shows John Major as a District Judge.
@raydavison2972
@raydavison2972 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Police Officers will utter these sort of 'Confessions' on a daily basis when discussing things that happen to people they know in the, let us say' 'known persons' groups. Where does this leave them?
@flybobbie1449
@flybobbie1449 2 жыл бұрын
Two cars hit at cross road lights, who's to blame, keep stum? Good idea to have a dash cam. Brother in law was done as a right turner at lights hit him side on. That driver claimed B i L jumped red light. How to prove, back then no dash cams. Light sequence has been changed. Court found in favour of the hitter.
@jeromerudd9029
@jeromerudd9029 2 жыл бұрын
I very interested in this but then i woz cofussed, who is / was carma ? Was it him.?