'Don't want to go to Rwanda': Asylum seekers choose Dublin tents over Britain's Rwanda deportation

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The Economic Times

The Economic Times

3 ай бұрын

Asylum seekers in Ireland are enraged over a plan to move them back to Northern Ireland, as a huge “tent city” has taken over the streets of Dublin outside its immigration processing centre. Startling new pictures reveal a pop-up community lining Dublin’s streets, with British and Irish ministers facing off in a row over migration that is threatening to escalate.
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@bahoonies
@bahoonies 3 ай бұрын
It's a case of - we want asylum but in a country we choose. They should be grateful to be offered the safety of Rwanda if they are genuine asylum seekers, which, clearly, they are not.
@steventwine8705
@steventwine8705 3 ай бұрын
Economic country shoppers that's all they are. It just shows if we stopped all benefits and sent them to Rwanda then it will stop overnight
@user-we2tz1lt5p
@user-we2tz1lt5p 3 ай бұрын
Stop all free stuff and benifts they all leave
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 3 ай бұрын
How do you know, you're just making assertions. We process them and the genuine ones get to stay. They're not all economic migrants.
@steventwine8705
@steventwine8705 3 ай бұрын
@@RazorMouth my god don't you watch any of the interviews, you tube videos? I could go on for days how both countries are getting screwed over by these country shoppers. Watch the interviews with them, granted there isn't many as they are shielded from giving them as governments don't want you to know your getting screwed.
@bahoonies
@bahoonies 3 ай бұрын
@@RazorMouth Cop on. I've seen video of some saying that they came from UK for fear of being sent to Rwanda. That idiot McEntee is even sending gardai to try and deal with her lack of competence in letting them flood in. Now if you're genuine asylum seekers, you'll be happy to be given refuge in any safe country. But they want asylum on their terms. Also, thousands have boarded flights to Ireland with passports but mysteriously lost them before disembarkation. Not the behaviour of genuine asylum seekers. If we look at Africa alone, it contains 54 countries. Why did they not seek safety in one of those? Instead they travel thousands of miles to our small country. Why? Financial gain. There are far too many illegal economic migrants among them.
@madhatter8253
@madhatter8253 3 ай бұрын
Stop in France and you don’t need to worry about Rwanda , we don’t want them
@user-in7hz1nu8l
@user-in7hz1nu8l 3 ай бұрын
Don't give a choice. Rwanda or go home
@jameshunter7181
@jameshunter7181 3 ай бұрын
Stop them landing on UK shorelines, and stop the French navy acting as guides.
@michaelglass1911
@michaelglass1911 3 ай бұрын
@@jameshunter7181 And the Border Force and RNLI acting as people traffickers.
@Thestaggertom
@Thestaggertom 3 ай бұрын
Go back and fight for your country then.
@johncannon3411
@johncannon3411 3 ай бұрын
beggars can't be choosers
@philomenamckinley8287
@philomenamckinley8287 3 ай бұрын
We owe the world nothing
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 3 ай бұрын
We're also not subject to anyone's moral standards, as a society we need to stop caring what whiny woke think, they aren't any judge of character. They're the ones who open the gates to the world's problems so they can pat themselves on the back and tell themselves how virtuous they are (having sacrificed nothing of their own and a lot from everyone else)
@hvacdesignsolutions
@hvacdesignsolutions 3 ай бұрын
They're illegal immigrants, not migrants.
@johnshoesmith2646
@johnshoesmith2646 3 ай бұрын
Should have stayed in your own country if you feel unsafe going to rwanda
@comealongcomealong4480
@comealongcomealong4480 3 ай бұрын
@johnshoesmith2646 Pakistan is not "unsafe" for this scammer. It's an overcrowded, corrupt country with patchy Rule Of Law. NOT OUR PROBLEM! ASYLUM DENIED!! DEPORT.
@paulsmyth3580
@paulsmyth3580 3 ай бұрын
I don't care what you want' Ireland is full
@aidancoyle246
@aidancoyle246 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree with your comment.
@michaelglass1911
@michaelglass1911 3 ай бұрын
The UK was full twenty years ago, it hasn't stopped politicians enabling n invasion.
@noellegunning3301
@noellegunning3301 2 ай бұрын
Agree 100%
@halfabee
@halfabee 3 ай бұрын
EU encouraged them into the UK now the EU can have them back.
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 3 ай бұрын
Encouraged, jaysus would you stop telling lies FFS, pathetic.
@jameshunter7181
@jameshunter7181 3 ай бұрын
Poland can stop them invading, why can't this pathetic government here, especially as the UK is a group of islands.
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 3 ай бұрын
@@jameshunter7181 don't be talking logic to ideological anti EU types. They can barely do basic maths.
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 3 ай бұрын
@@RazorMouth Did someone insult your sacred idol? 😂
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 3 ай бұрын
@@blazednlovinit you obviously one, can't read can you not.
@sarahemerson6567
@sarahemerson6567 3 ай бұрын
The pure arrogance of these people seems to be infinite
@user-me6hi7dy2z
@user-me6hi7dy2z 3 ай бұрын
Tax out of my pension paying for this shit send back
@craigmore3433
@craigmore3433 3 ай бұрын
It would make more economic sense sending you pensioners to Rwanda
@lillianflorence6056
@lillianflorence6056 3 ай бұрын
Pensioners worked for a living, paid into the system, dingie people have done nothing but want it all for nothing, give all unemployed vouchers , that would save a lot,
@SaharshJeetSingh
@SaharshJeetSingh 2 ай бұрын
@@lillianflorence6056 what is with those spaces?
@kellykreqeli8924
@kellykreqeli8924 3 ай бұрын
I'm sick of hearing it youre human rights what about our human rights to be safe in our own country? and for our people to have homes to live in and the help they need without us spending out on people who shouldn't even be here!
@shanemcpherson1015
@shanemcpherson1015 3 ай бұрын
Spot on.
@youllplotzfilms5917
@youllplotzfilms5917 3 ай бұрын
Where’s the Old men and women Children
@yvonneholmes2990
@yvonneholmes2990 Ай бұрын
On their way..triple the benefits..old age pension ..full wack no doubt..full use of nhs for all their ailments..free prescriptions..dentist for dentures and a nice free nursing home....they all make me barf🤢🤮
@laurasands8322
@laurasands8322 3 ай бұрын
Blame France for getting rid of them by sending them to Britain as a punishment for daring to leave the EU, thats who's to blame, taking money from the UK to stop them and letting their navy escort them into British waters to be collected by the RNLI and border force.
@fintonmainz7845
@fintonmainz7845 3 ай бұрын
No normal human believes that nonsense
@slotsplay642
@slotsplay642 3 ай бұрын
Yep like usa and Germany who needs enemy's with alliance like that
@YachtEventHorizon
@YachtEventHorizon 3 ай бұрын
This is an unexpected but a great bonus for the UK.
@steventwine8705
@steventwine8705 3 ай бұрын
Tories have played a blinder!!
@kitcat4512
@kitcat4512 3 ай бұрын
We are still getting thousands per week.
@FaceFcuk
@FaceFcuk 3 ай бұрын
Deport
@jameshunter7181
@jameshunter7181 3 ай бұрын
And tell Sunak to stop giving the French taxpayers millions especially when the French police walk away .
@spiritbaby5151
@spiritbaby5151 3 ай бұрын
Why is the UK blamed? You cannot reach the UK directly from the East. Blame Italy, Germany & France!! We should be last on the list!! 😡 and we are a tiny island!!
@PeterChelmsford
@PeterChelmsford 3 ай бұрын
If their countries are at war they should fight for their country instead of running away looking for everything free,
@sh.4409
@sh.4409 3 ай бұрын
They are chancers!
@christinehill8611
@christinehill8611 3 ай бұрын
You wouldn’t dream of entering some one’s house without being invited in! Same goes for country!
@lynlittlelion
@lynlittlelion 2 ай бұрын
They would if they could get away with it ,they have in Spain
@kevincarroll6490
@kevincarroll6490 3 ай бұрын
This has been going on for years. Nothing to do with Rwanda
@yvettedavis2256
@yvettedavis2256 3 ай бұрын
They ARE a threat!
@gregporras6004
@gregporras6004 3 ай бұрын
I don't want to go to Rwanda Then you shouldn't have come to England mate
@user-pl6wk3wg6d
@user-pl6wk3wg6d 3 ай бұрын
These are all young 'able-bodied' men, adult men, no women or children amongst them!!!---seems odd, and they have 'learnt' English. All they need now is 'work permits'.The sanitation problem with these 2--3000 men in tents must be a grave issue witht the dublin city council
@user-hw3zb4sc8q
@user-hw3zb4sc8q 3 ай бұрын
Then are here before their familys arrive, thank god we didn't sign up to durable relationships, but im sure their familys will come anyaways
@johnwarren9112
@johnwarren9112 3 ай бұрын
Rwanda best place for them. Accommodation, Jobs 👌
@European-c2w
@European-c2w 3 ай бұрын
But they want blue eye blonde and don't want to go to Rawanda
@davidsmith8728
@davidsmith8728 3 ай бұрын
The Eu were deliberately awkward during the Brexit negotiations. They insisted on no border between Northern Ireland and the Republic with the intention of keeping the North bound to the Eu with regulations etc. They did not consider the law of unintended consequences and now they don't like what has happened and want to move the goalposts. France has refused to accept returned illegal migrants but the Eu expect the UK to accept their illegal migrants. Seems like a case of double standards.
@ef1265
@ef1265 3 ай бұрын
the no border in ireland is part of the good friday agreement, nothing to do with the EU, and is none of their business
@scottanthony6269
@scottanthony6269 3 ай бұрын
Their coming in to northern Ireland Belfast were illegal taxis wait to pick them up from the ships. You can see the taxis all in a row and the illegal immigrants waiting to be brought down to Dublin. Crazy
@Bungle-UK
@Bungle-UK 3 ай бұрын
They should stay in France then….or better still wherever they came from.
@Rob-uv8bu
@Rob-uv8bu 3 ай бұрын
Rwanda or france ?
@deedee5562
@deedee5562 3 ай бұрын
As far away as possible.
@steventwine8705
@steventwine8705 3 ай бұрын
What the hell is that irish guy on about? They come from france over, if your angry at someone then its france. They are causing all this
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 3 ай бұрын
Horsesh1t, France processes way more applicants than the UK does. How about you actually process yours and stop blaming all your neighbours for your incompetent government.
@annettereddall8982
@annettereddall8982 3 ай бұрын
No not their fault either. It's the government's fault. Open borders and no limits is the problem. Treasonous government bending over to ngos and EU, we need to leave the EU they no longer have our citizens or country best interest at heart.
@Michele-rn5bf
@Michele-rn5bf 2 ай бұрын
They should be sent to fight for Ukraine in exchange for citizenship there.
@Iamgone1961
@Iamgone1961 3 ай бұрын
We never sent them to you, they went of their own accord, don’t blame us
@Lillilady888
@Lillilady888 3 ай бұрын
Uk didn't make them go to Ireland, they chose to do it, so it is up to ireland to make arrangements with eu to disperse them in the eu. France is to blame
@deedee5562
@deedee5562 3 ай бұрын
Its all a big long chain, from the very beginning of their journey isnt it. everybody's blaming eachother along the way as they land or pass through. Its horrible.
@dmdm5339
@dmdm5339 3 ай бұрын
How is this even happening 😂
@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559
@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 3 ай бұрын
By the West being extremely naive and impractical.
@julie-yq4ri
@julie-yq4ri 3 ай бұрын
Why don't they use the Dublin agreement, we keep being told we can't use it but Ireland can they can send them back to France.
@shanemcpherson1015
@shanemcpherson1015 3 ай бұрын
Because they came from a non EU country the UK.
@rogerhall6021
@rogerhall6021 3 ай бұрын
​@@shanemcpherson1015it's funny ain't it 🤣
@mrsmith9650
@mrsmith9650 3 ай бұрын
They are called illegal immigrants.
@christopherrichardwadedett4100
@christopherrichardwadedett4100 3 ай бұрын
In many European countries people are treated as newcomers.
@neanda
@neanda 3 ай бұрын
to the irish guy saying "they're passing the buck, they're happy for them to come to Ireland".... are you not happy for them to come there?
@annettereddall8982
@annettereddall8982 3 ай бұрын
These are economic migrants no wars where their coming from .
@andyjota8906
@andyjota8906 3 ай бұрын
Dublin is a little bit better than Rwanda but only just................. maybe just tell them its a E10.00 a pint and they will see the light..........
@paulsmyth3580
@paulsmyth3580 3 ай бұрын
Dublin will end up worse than Rwanda' these people are the reason
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 3 ай бұрын
€6.50 to €7 in Dublin, less in the suburbs. Same as London.
@michaelglass1911
@michaelglass1911 3 ай бұрын
They will soon demand alcohol is banned anyway.
@fil_britbunnyboi872
@fil_britbunnyboi872 Ай бұрын
They're Muslims they don't drink
@danielgillespie5229
@danielgillespie5229 3 ай бұрын
As soon as they get off a boat it's straight to the airport the boats would stop in a couple of day's
@japfourme381
@japfourme381 3 ай бұрын
How did they get there? I can’t believe they got there in dinghies, like they do to the UK!!
@marineboy1964
@marineboy1964 3 ай бұрын
There's a lot of men Where are the women and kids And even grand parents They are fleeing for there lives , supposedly
@shanemcpherson1015
@shanemcpherson1015 3 ай бұрын
That lot come over if the get residency due to ECHR right to a family life .
@jimoconnor2594
@jimoconnor2594 3 ай бұрын
How many one eyed Abdul's are in those tents ?
@Jones40-sy2fg
@Jones40-sy2fg 3 ай бұрын
England are not passing the buck.They went straight from France to Ireland.get it right.
@springer3783
@springer3783 3 ай бұрын
We told the Irish if they insisted on playing brexit as a “one up on the brits game “ this would happen in return.
@ViDuhy
@ViDuhy 2 ай бұрын
That was Varadkar public seem to have no say about rogue politicians
@tinatina1104
@tinatina1104 3 ай бұрын
They are treated better than their women in Afghanistan and yet they leave them there with the children
@badger666odin5
@badger666odin5 3 ай бұрын
Whats the point of a passport these days
@halfabee
@halfabee 3 ай бұрын
Good news. Another country can pay for their support.
@jadejones8771
@jadejones8771 3 ай бұрын
I've got no sympathy for the illegal immigrants
@garyharding648
@garyharding648 3 ай бұрын
The country was full even before rawanda was mentioned??
@m-zg8ix
@m-zg8ix 3 ай бұрын
Who cares if they don't want to go to rewanda we don't want to pay for thier gimme gimme I won't it crap for free
@jethrotull2142
@jethrotull2142 3 ай бұрын
What a horrible country Rwanda must be that the very mention of it thousands "absconded" or fled to Ireland;but is it really THAT bad?
@edwardoneill9559
@edwardoneill9559 3 ай бұрын
Go to Rawanda it's your new Frontier 😊 Excitement awaits 🎉
@hellsbells7271
@hellsbells7271 3 ай бұрын
They dont get to make the decision.
@annettereddall8982
@annettereddall8982 3 ай бұрын
These are not asylum seekers or refugees . These are economic migrants nothhing more. The sooner Ireland follow UK in the Rwanda solution the better.
@ViDuhy
@ViDuhy 2 ай бұрын
Every time a TD speaks about this they are at pains to say Women and children fleeing from war What load of bull
@kitcat4512
@kitcat4512 3 ай бұрын
Asylum seekers request refuge with validation of their claims, these economic migrants should not have entered illegaly to take what NGOs and smugglers offered them, without our consent.
@scottanthony6269
@scottanthony6269 3 ай бұрын
Depot
@CoolDown-ml4wp
@CoolDown-ml4wp 3 ай бұрын
They can send African or other black community asylum seekers to Rwanda, so when they are there they will find it easy to get along with people, get work permit and live. other white asylum seekers they can send them to Mauritius, as Mauritius is half French land so they will feel SAFE there, they can get job-work permit and live there. UK government should help these asylum seekers get work permit/job (CSR /TSR jobs) too to the country they are sending, they can get a contract singed with some company to give them jobs for 5 years after that they can figure out where to move or stay there if they like it there. A few days of hotel stay will not help them.
@raysummers2075
@raysummers2075 2 ай бұрын
They have homes IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES.they send money "home" so they ain't homeless
@dmtarry
@dmtarry 3 ай бұрын
Build out immigration camps on the Northern Ireland side of the border
@brogmyster
@brogmyster 2 ай бұрын
Economic migrants not asylum seekers
@cplcummins
@cplcummins 3 ай бұрын
Its sunny.. its not war torn..id keep your mouthshut and keep moving
@cr-iv1el
@cr-iv1el 2 ай бұрын
Human rights do not include living in any country you want.
@awilderireland
@awilderireland 2 ай бұрын
I am voting Indie here in Ireland. None of the parties are worth a fig. There will be a lot of Indies this time. Will screw that lot right up. For every one of us marching. There are twenty or more at home afraid to march. The Govt's last spiteful kick in the guts to its people is to opt in to the new EU migration pact when we have an opt out. Only Ireland and Denmark have an opt out (due to previous treaties). Other EU member states have no say in the matter. Denmark are opting out. Once we opt in. That's it. A new Govt. can't change it. Coverage of Monday's march?? Our own media hardly covered it. And the little coverage we got downplayed it. The Irish Times said there were only hundreds at the march. 😂😂
@user-gz1bu1bg4o
@user-gz1bu1bg4o 3 ай бұрын
They should be deported where they want or not!
@christinadoyle1134
@christinadoyle1134 2 ай бұрын
Why not move them to islands around Ireland save them going too Rwanda problem solved
@steventwine8705
@steventwine8705 3 ай бұрын
Know imagine the eu pulls its head from its arse and they had other countries they can send them too. The whole process will be done orderly and safely for everyone.
@skyabhinav1
@skyabhinav1 3 ай бұрын
How about human rights of Hindu in Pakistan and Afghanistan
@abdellahcharafi1823
@abdellahcharafi1823 3 ай бұрын
Sorry You went true so many safe countries like France .why you choose UK.because UK is soft touch. That is the fact.
@user-cs1dt2xw4c
@user-cs1dt2xw4c 3 ай бұрын
The UK is full ,send them back to France or Rwanda.
@marky1974
@marky1974 3 ай бұрын
The tented village was cleared today..
@badger666odin5
@badger666odin5 3 ай бұрын
Are borders meant to be protected ?
@Ireland1971
@Ireland1971 3 ай бұрын
Get them off the canal now
@badger666odin5
@badger666odin5 3 ай бұрын
I understand we have to have passports get the jab then let in everyone that has not had a jab in .mmm thats odd do you not think ?
@solani5621
@solani5621 3 ай бұрын
What is so wrong with Rwanda..... can someone please explain??? Their Europes problem then since they're too good for Rwanda
@noobiesnacks1636
@noobiesnacks1636 2 ай бұрын
It is not the responsibility of the Irish to provide for these people! OUT with them now
@deedee5562
@deedee5562 3 ай бұрын
Thanks rishi??????What????? This is way way way way way too long overdue! 'Its not fair'. He had a choice. He made it. We are obviously full. We have human rights too. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿.
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 3 ай бұрын
We should be pressing the home countries for funds. Not fair that our nations have to shoulder all the financial burden on problems the home countries have created
@richardnolan1013
@richardnolan1013 3 ай бұрын
When this country reduces it's benefits then people will stop hopping over Here the government need to support this country goes
@antig4555
@antig4555 2 ай бұрын
How stupid they must be convinced that they will be better off in Rwanda.
@yoonghingtan18
@yoonghingtan18 3 ай бұрын
Go back to UK/France/Rwanda ... Ireland is full now.
@thesightings222
@thesightings222 3 ай бұрын
What are they doing on the streets? They supposed to wait patiently and gratefully locked in camps for decisions. Then slowly assimilated under strict conditions.
@jameshunter7181
@jameshunter7181 3 ай бұрын
But even when their asylum application is rejected they are not ejected and stay here putting people in danger.
@AhmedMehmed-is7jj
@AhmedMehmed-is7jj 3 ай бұрын
West in crisis
@kamalbashir5127
@kamalbashir5127 3 ай бұрын
But Rwanda is a beautiful country ❤
@dronedays450
@dronedays450 3 ай бұрын
Ireland should do the same then they might get the message
@xxcandyxandyxx
@xxcandyxandyxx 3 ай бұрын
Thank you UK for sharing your problems with Ireland once again...
@bdazzler1
@bdazzler1 3 ай бұрын
Blame your mates in France.
@rodjones117
@rodjones117 3 ай бұрын
These people have passed through several safe countries, Britain is just the last before Ireland. You may just as well blame France.
@piee683
@piee683 3 ай бұрын
Irish government wants you believe it’s the uks fault they’re kidding us
@irishdeetalks
@irishdeetalks 3 ай бұрын
This is not UK’s problem either. This is our governments passing blame onto one another.
@angietowey
@angietowey 3 ай бұрын
UK is NOT transporting them to Ireland , they are making their own way over. You wanted to keep an open border so blame your government.
@double_vision00
@double_vision00 2 ай бұрын
They have homes to go back to
@I-bv8te
@I-bv8te 3 ай бұрын
Thats been going on for months well before the RD.
@GDI-disc-accepted
@GDI-disc-accepted 3 ай бұрын
Tells you all you need to know
@HankSydney
@HankSydney 3 ай бұрын
Sending them to Universal Control site, jointly funded by counties impacted by these illegal arrivals appear to be among best deterrent. Cost for eahch country is cut. Rwanda (Uk plan) , nauru (Australia is still doing that) alone cost too much for UK/Australia. This will get rid of this problem in big ways, cut deaths at sea. All countries can send to this universal control site. govt should work out universal site to stop them wasting all politician time. work on security and other specs, costing, etc. the minute illegals arrive, they are sent to the Universla palce for processing etc. they remain there for a certian period before they are free to leave the place. smuggler stay for 10 years
@carlcrabtree9631
@carlcrabtree9631 3 ай бұрын
There's plenty more where they come from!
@austinbourke9292
@austinbourke9292 Ай бұрын
Just keep them there
@Martini923
@Martini923 3 ай бұрын
They cost the Irish taxpayers money
@racoonchief
@racoonchief 3 ай бұрын
They will make a Pakistan there, slowly but surely.
@pavlaurbanova1708
@pavlaurbanova1708 3 ай бұрын
Hm because they wanted staying in Dublin Ireland
@saltymonke3682
@saltymonke3682 2 ай бұрын
The Rwanda plan is working
@megataurus7779
@megataurus7779 Ай бұрын
I want my fkn tax money back!!
@kgb2905
@kgb2905 Ай бұрын
GO TO IRELAND,FRANCE SYRIA,TURKEY,ALL have backed Palistinians at ICJ, and will GLADLY accept you.
@peterchaloner2877
@peterchaloner2877 3 ай бұрын
To Borswana with all.
@TheBeardedBullFather
@TheBeardedBullFather Ай бұрын
All men..where are the women?
@MarjorieStoker-oj8fh
@MarjorieStoker-oj8fh 2 ай бұрын
One way tickets to France no problem
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