Why the 1300 HP Turbo Axle Failed
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In 1962, a rocket engineer named Gene Middlebrooks applied what he’d learned designing ballistic missiles to build and sell turbine-based power-adding equipment for cars. And when we say “turbine-based”, we don’t mean turbochargers. His “turbo drag axle” was a revolutionary invention that used a turbine to drive the axle of a car, which let drivers toggle their car between comfortable street ride and absolutely mind-boggling power. So why aren't we all driving on turbo axles? Today on B2B we'll explore the brilliance and the pitfalls of this by-gone work of genius.
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@stezenast5878 2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the guy with the balls to run a 5 second 1/4 mile at 240mph in a rocket-powered go-cart....wow
@tich18 2 жыл бұрын
You can bet he was told it would top out around 100mph. They just miscalculated a little.
@DiscoR53 2 жыл бұрын
How in the world did he stop?
@user-mr8yl2fg9k 2 жыл бұрын
@@DiscoR53 Jesus
@zachaliles 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason he didn't go faster than that is because his gargantuan balls were dragging on the ground next to him the whole way. That's also how he stopped the go cart.
@iainbagnall4825 2 жыл бұрын
@@DiscoR53 exhausted its fuel supply, I imagine.
@ben501st 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell Jer Bear is a real engineer by his disdain for marketing departments. The pain is real.
@travishabursky4362 2 жыл бұрын
As an accountant, I totally understand his disdain.
@cincinnatislider 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when you could pump gas without ads SCREAMING IN YOUR FACE? I suspect “how to know when you’ve gone too far” isn’t in any marketing curriculum anywhere.
@El-Burrito 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could enjoy the Donut media comments without all the spam replies to comments.
@steverossen2816 2 жыл бұрын
@@El-Burrito ignore them. It’s easy.
@Eluderatnight 2 жыл бұрын
@@travishabursky4362 what do you mean I can't use all exotic alloys and composites on an economy car? Jk engineering 101 was minimum viable.
@ReubenAStern 2 жыл бұрын
"Died spectacularly on a rocket powered go kart" I'd have that on my tombstone any day.
@Emppu_T. 2 жыл бұрын
In a great big fireball
@iterminator309 2 жыл бұрын
I'd settle for: "Here lies ******** who died in a massive fireball halfway up a tree" How its achieved is irrelevant.
@deathraygonzo6339 Жыл бұрын
Mine's going to be "... and it was one too many."
@Jordan-zk2rf Жыл бұрын
@@deathraygonzo6339 that could end good or bad tbh
@MartiensBezuidenhout Жыл бұрын
@@iterminator309 you want to burn to death?
@JunkyardDigs 2 жыл бұрын
The day I find one of these will be a good day
@That70sford 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@That70sford 2 жыл бұрын
You got any 89 f350 steering wheels
@RattleTrapGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Yea
@cropduster6059 2 жыл бұрын
How is the AMC eagle doing.
@scripter13 2 жыл бұрын
Back again I see!
@CanadaBud23 2 жыл бұрын
EV: We can make 1000hp that is direct to your wheels! Turbo Axle:.. Hold my Thermolene..
@guyod1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but EV takes thousands of pounds of batteries
@GhostOfDamned 2 жыл бұрын
Talking about instant power
@ManojAchari-monjo 2 жыл бұрын
@@guyod1 atleast it doesnt explode if you miss the launch
@antonioederlopezlopez7341 2 жыл бұрын
It kinda does
@LilAlbus 2 жыл бұрын
God these transitions are legendary. The rocket fuel with the guitar transition is some of the most powerful stuff I've ever seen. Keep living the dream editor, keep living the dream.
@henri6311 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand these transitions..
@freddieparrydrums 2 жыл бұрын
@@jannie6605 ugh, bots
@alexgannon4139 2 жыл бұрын
I read this and then that transition came up
@SgtSquiddles 2 жыл бұрын
I showed my gf that scene and was like wow this editor is a legend, glad to see people agree
@tylerjohn 2 жыл бұрын
I literally watched it like 4 times
@jefgirdler7232 2 жыл бұрын
I could see the turbo axle being a fantastic collaborative opportunity with a channel like Hacksmith or Colin Furze. They're insane and well-equipped enough to help with something like that.
@THESLlCK 2 жыл бұрын
No they aren’t. The forces involved are double or triple what they’re capable of working with. A turbunique axle goes under as much stress as top fuel parts. The displacement of a 1200hp turbuniqe is equivalent to a liter bike engine or smaller
@NotMe-ej9yz 2 жыл бұрын
@@THESLlCK they could make a smaller functioning prototype and pitch that to investors already in the car industry that probably have better access to that type of machinery. Couldn't do it alone but I think it could happen
@THESLlCK 2 жыл бұрын
@@NotMe-ej9yz Just remember this makes nitrous kits look like child's play. There's literally so much power in that thing that it can double if not triple the power of the engine it's eventually attached to
@steffankaizer Жыл бұрын
i could swear there where 3 replies here. why cant i see them?
@nobiazcustomsinc5030 Жыл бұрын
colin would def get it done, dudes a genius
@InJasonsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
In 1999 I was contracted to build a web site for a couple of guys who started a business trying to resurrect the Turbonique name and technology. They were pretty serious. I think we got as far as the initial design phase and then it just kinda fizzled. I don't know if they ran out of money or what the issue was. EDIT: I just dug through my old archives and found the site I built in 1999. If anyone wants to see it, I might be able to upload it somewhere.
@bohenderson811 Жыл бұрын
Definitely post that.
@LisaAnn777 11 ай бұрын
Yes I'm very interested!
@holeshothunter5544 10 ай бұрын
show me!
@marvindebot3264 8 ай бұрын
hell yes!
@Sk0die 8 ай бұрын
Yes mate I reckon that would be pretty dope if your able to get it up again.
@JayFude 2 жыл бұрын
"Who else would do that?" he asks, and I think Colin Furze...
@therobb5738 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I think he needs to see this.
@CrunchyMaggots 2 жыл бұрын
He must be sheltered from this concept at all costs. For the sake of preservation.
@edgiestofcars 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrunchyMaggots he’ll find out one way or another…
@lmasticard 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrunchyMaggots I mean, he already did it some years ago...
@newtonsbuilds8831 2 жыл бұрын
@@therobb5738 he already has done it
@themultigamer5682 2 жыл бұрын
"I've made and engine modification that doubles your horsepower" "WHAT HOW?" "I attached a rocket engine to it"
@3ch0_17 2 жыл бұрын
Man that was a brain fuck to read
@waffles5300 2 жыл бұрын
I'd just suggest you dont type in english anymore.
@3ch0_17 2 жыл бұрын
@@waffles5300 that's what I'm sayin'
@themultigamer5682 2 жыл бұрын
@@3ch0_17 yall are actually brain dead. There was one extra word.
@nlkrazycat 2 жыл бұрын
god i wish that was me
@NathanNGM 2 жыл бұрын
"This was 1960s: a time before safety even existed."
@tastyscrib8143 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting an axle driven supercharger sending air back to the engine. I guess it would have to have it's own gearbox, maybe a continuously variable setup that changed ratios to the demand of the engine, with a bypass for when you're off the throttle.
@mortified776 2 жыл бұрын
That was my thinking too. Definitely not expecting a rocket turbo-pump. I guess his ballistic missile work came in handy.
@BobbyIronsights 2 жыл бұрын
That was my thinking too
@yuribrandi8212 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly they could do that, I believe on a jeep grand cherokee of sorts it has the turbo in the back not near the engine at all.. it's an interesting set up.
@jonosterman2878 Жыл бұрын
@@yuribrandi8212 I think he means that the rear diff is driving the charger. That wouldn’t work. What you’re suggesting is done all the time on z cars and others that have limited space in the engine bay for turbo and plumbing.
@DerkJester 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe the “Tobacco King” wasn’t mentioned. A 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 with a 427 engine swapped in and equipped with a Turbonique rear axle. Want to talk about an absolute outrageous car, that was it. The owner was heir to Reynolds Tobacco Company so he had money to play with. He’d go cruising the streets with this car and use the rocket in street races! I live near the old haunts of this car and couldn’t imagine where he had a straight enough line to use the turbine. You guys should do a B2B on that bad boy.
@adrianyoung4782 2 жыл бұрын
That’s sick
@dookiebooger9967 2 жыл бұрын
That's how cleetus should have build the mullet elcamino
@808bigisland 2 жыл бұрын
@@dookiebooger9967 cleetus is 100% talentfree and a total joke.
@DeagleGamesTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@808bigisland damn, and still he's leagues more successful than you, makes you pretty pathetic.
@MrAzkush 2 жыл бұрын
Literally thought this what the video would be based on
@ZekeGraal 2 жыл бұрын
"Apparatus predates safety." -AvE The 60s were awesome.
@holyravioli5795 2 жыл бұрын
Rose tinted glasses
@weareallbeingwatched4602 2 жыл бұрын
@@holyravioli5795 it's an 18th century ship's surgeon's joke, that.
@lw1878 2 жыл бұрын
His word play is legend dairy.
@ToeBearr 2 жыл бұрын
Holeeeo fuck
@THESLlCK 2 жыл бұрын
@@holyravioli5795 baloney. There was so much more freedom back then where it COUNTED, not on a book or in a congressional movement. People said "if you wanna die in flames, that's your thing. Just don't kill me." THAT is what people miss
@SoylentGamer Жыл бұрын
I hope his go-kart record never gets broken, we need an eternal reminder of the sussy business that went on in the 60s
@PtotheMtotheK 2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about these decades ago, but there was no internet to go search for information on them back then. These contraptions should definitely make a comeback!
@HipHopAnalysis 2 жыл бұрын
If they actually build their own turbo axle that will be legendary. Literally they will become a vital part of car history
@1slotmech 2 жыл бұрын
Either a piece of, or pieces of car history, yeah. ;)
@bunnyis1036 2 жыл бұрын
Its dosent seem too hard tbh i feel like it belt driven like a supercharger now would work better but when i have anything money this will definitely pop back in my mind i would love to see it
@rogerwilco1777 2 жыл бұрын
I will donate my prius as a test car
@davelowets 2 жыл бұрын
@Ernesto Fierros Race cars will never be "all electric".
@lebronjames4705 2 жыл бұрын
no traction wheels will just spin
@buttsexandbananapeels 2 жыл бұрын
“If only there was some kind of book that told us what words mean” Me, every day.
@bananasplease666 2 жыл бұрын
assumes people can read
@Eluderatnight 2 жыл бұрын
@Case-Hard Nails books have been dissapearing off shelfs for the past decade. Its been weird.
@benjigreenlee9540 2 жыл бұрын
especially when it comes to liberals. Hate to be that person that brings up politics, but of all things I notice, it is liberals that absolutely hate the definitions of words and want them all to change to suit them.
@michael_mcgowan 2 жыл бұрын
The hell's a book?
@chopdogrulz1337 2 жыл бұрын
Hats off to the guy that said: “A 1300 hsprs rocket fuel powered axle intended for the drag strip? Wonder what it would do in a light weight car like a Beetle?” #fuckinglegend.
@dwalker399 2 жыл бұрын
There was a ad in hot VWs magazine many years ago selling one for the beetle.
@KitKitChanIsaac 2 жыл бұрын
i'd slap a big wing on the beetle if i decided to give it a turbo axle,it needs downforce
@thecloneguyz 2 жыл бұрын
My buddy's got a late 50's Oval Ford 289 mounted in front All wheel drive Subaru componets Pulls a low 8 @ 144mph
@fridaycaliforniaa236 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, you basically explained us what happens inside some turbopumps with their gas generators. Except this turbopump thingy is linked to an axle, not a real impeller as we see in real rocket engines. That was a great video =)
@incognito_. 2 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah is so underrated He is the reason I want to do engineering
@alwayyssgone 2 жыл бұрын
Bul really be knowing all that stuff
@devme20 2 жыл бұрын
not even a minute in you got 3 bots XD
@chrisfieldsend7016 2 жыл бұрын
So true he inspires me
@whiskeye7552 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he's underrated though, everyone knows he's cool
@slmdnkasr 2 жыл бұрын
Watching him is the exact reason I don’t want to be an engineer😂
@mikeskinner0411 2 жыл бұрын
"...a record for rocket-powered go-karts that remains to this day....who else would do that?" Colin Furze: Challenge accepted.
@shaunlaverty8898 2 жыл бұрын
Wile E Coyote enters the chat…
@SevenBates 2 жыл бұрын
I think hardware like a turbo axle is exactly the kind of thing that gearheads in the future are going to need to rely on, in a world where we have electric vehicles.
@cjwrench07 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, but there is a ton you can modify with electric vehicles. Upgrading the wiring in the motor itself to take higher heat and more current; equals making more power. Hell. I want to add a central electric motor to the Willys CJ-3b *replica* chassis & drivetrain I have. Being able to double the HP & Torque in it and make it a perfect camping & nearly silent hunting vehicle.
@SevenBates Жыл бұрын
@@cjwrench07 numbers people are producing nowadays, that might be amazing.
@chrisburn7178 2 жыл бұрын
There was something about rockets and drag cars but I forgot all that with the flawless editing of James "playing" the trumpet. The cracked note when he misses his lips had me in stitches. Bravo.
@13x 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a good final mod for the Hi/Lo Tacomas. Plenty of room for ridiculous fuel+turbine stuff in the bed. Lo team has to build theirs from scratch.
@Justm3180 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an accident waiting to happen lol
@pieguy203 2 жыл бұрын
Lo team has to make their own highly volatile rocket fuel without getting caught by the government.
@nicechasinchasegods7051 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea sir!
@nicechasinchasegods7051 2 жыл бұрын
@@pieguy203 😂😂😂
@graphicsgod 2 жыл бұрын
@@pieguy203 I laughed so hard I shot my Starbucks cafe late out my nose!! Also people asked if I was ok. I so want to see this happen!!! ♥️♥️♥️
@knodalishell5636 2 жыл бұрын
i love Jeremiah, he’s such a fitting personality for this show. feels like we’re best friends and ive never even talked to him- just like James and Nolan
@WorkableWax 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@WorkableWax 2 жыл бұрын
All these guys are very human
@davelowets 2 жыл бұрын
That's creepy dude. You cant be best friends with someone you've never met. That's called being a "nut swinger".
@raymaster 2 жыл бұрын
... yeah, no.
@philipm3173 2 жыл бұрын
@@davelowets what the fuck
@RobertKarlBerta 2 жыл бұрын
I was a teenager back in the 60s when they started advertising the Turbonic or what ever it was named. It was advertised with a photo showing it racing a top fuel dragster....it was in a go cart. The photo had the go kart doing a wheely. Supposedly it beat the dragster. Whether that was real or not was a big issue. Since in those days a top fuel dragster would just max out a bit over 200 mph at 7 seconds (Don Garlets was the first to go over 200 mph in a top fuel dragster in a NHRA sanctioned race). I don't believe they said it did a 5 second 240mph quarter. I also find int highly unlikely they would have allowed something like that on a sanctioned race track. I always wondered if anyone actually put it on a car....or blew them and the car up with it.
@KitKitChanIsaac 2 жыл бұрын
everybody gangsta till someone showed up to a NHRA Top Fuel race in his parent's lawnmower
@Surestick88 2 жыл бұрын
Just before jets took over some of the piston engines used in large airplane engines had power recovery turbines. The engine was supercharged for performance at altitude and a turbine in the exhaust was geared to the crankshaft to recover power that would otherwise have been lost out the exhaust.
@thats10guy91 2 жыл бұрын
Volvo trucks are doing that today too....
@Seargentmyself 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was just gonna be a power recovery turbine. A Jet powered axle is insane. In WWII some bombers used a power recovery turbine on the back of the engine, it used any energy left in the exhaust gases after spinning the turbo up to spin a turbine that was connected to the crank to get just that little bit more power.
@Odin851 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a power recovery turbine bringing in an additional 1300 horsepower, after scavenging the leftovers from the engine AND the turbo lol
@gailgrove 2 жыл бұрын
Detroit and Volvo both use that exact system on semi truck engines to this day. They now call it "turbo compounding" but the concept is the same, second turbine (after main turbo) coupled to the crankshaft via the gear train.
@mycosys 2 жыл бұрын
its it really any different to a turboshaft engine?
@Seargentmyself 2 жыл бұрын
@@mycosys a turbo shaft engine is a Jet engine with a drive shaft. There are no pistons involved anywhere. A power recovery turbine is a turbine connected to a piston internal combustion engine.
@Seargentmyself 2 жыл бұрын
@@Odin851 I thought it just helped to get the engine up to 1300
@rccoul 2 жыл бұрын
We can please take a moment to talk about how crazy the old days were? casual nuclear toys and FREAKING 240MPH ROCKET POWERED GO KARTS THAT WOULD MAKE A PLAID LOOK LIKE A CAMRY.
@dr.dylansgame5583 2 жыл бұрын
ikr when people say they don't build em like they used to they aren't kidding about that statement back in the day shit was nuts and sad i never got to grow up and experience some of the craziest stuff you will never see nowadays like Group B rally in person
@JSchroederee 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that a lot of people didn't grow up back in the good old days 💀
@michaelhite1433 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.dylansgame5583 Group B created some badass cars, but thanks to Group B, we have some badass cars today.
@michaelhite1433 2 жыл бұрын
I can clearly remember having a chemistry set that didn’t have warnings on anything. And we had lawn darts. You could kill someone with a lawn dart.😂. 240 mph go cart that would give a Pro Stock car a run for it’s money.😂
@dr.dylansgame5583 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhite1433 true I just wish every rally car didnt look the same nowadays unpopular opinion I'm all for fair restrictions but standardization like that ruined both the sport driving aspect and car industry in general with starting trends like fake vents and plastic engine covers that make you just wish 90 percent of new cars never existed and it's not that I hate all new cars I just hate in the US we have all the same looking sedans only difference is slight body variation based on home country origin why cant more companies create fun and practical cars without fake bullshit like the toyota gr yaris or just the hatchback yaris in general or the gt/gr 86 is another good answer
@ddiablolll Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing if you add too many fuel pellets that it will randomly ignite a second time. That old magazine with a guy that had one
@WarpedPerception 2 жыл бұрын
I might just have build one now!!. like my grandpa told me, we're all snowflakes now, all the crazy s*** happened in the 60s...lol.
@idahoshoter 2 жыл бұрын
Like the go kart 5 sec at 240mph thats crazy shit
@YouNameItGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Well, why the f*** not? You already have the go kart 👍 You could also try making a power turbine for that little jet you have, but I'd strongly recommend beefing up the brakes 1st
@Neojhun Жыл бұрын
McMurtry Speirling fans goo BBBRRRRRRRRR at 23,000rpm.
@fishingbob8374 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I don’t see a manscaped add, I remember how far we’ve come together boys. Keep up the great work.
@MrCTruck 2 жыл бұрын
Turbonique: almost sends your car to space Them a couple days later in a magazine: "Sorry about that"
@someweeb3650 2 жыл бұрын
The owner of this company is such a sigma
@ryanslut5607 2 жыл бұрын
That was so funny ae. 😂 him just standing becide the car in the middle of a seem too look like desert? Odd add. But fair. 🇳🇿
@altoticket 2 жыл бұрын
Now we're all craving for the "bumper to bumper" EPs on the 180mph Beetle and 240mph Go-Kart
@jessemurray1757 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a hotrod article about this back almost 20 years ago. When they questioned the inventor on what ever happened, he said they were accusing him of mail fraud. Whether the government, oil companies or whoever, someone didn't want it made. I for one think its a great idea, what could go wrong....?
@last808 8 ай бұрын
Apparently your VW Beetle can take flight. You'd get cited by the FAA for not having your pilot's license.
@noeljonsson3578 2 жыл бұрын
”now that we know that marketers are liars” i- i think we already knew…
@anthonydejesus2093 2 жыл бұрын
At first I thought this had to do with a turbo being driven directly off the diff but this was way cooler.
@ZERONEINNOVATIONS 2 жыл бұрын
me too
@jayknight139 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought. I think it would be a good idea although the parasitic drag will be similar to a supercharger so it might be pointless but still cool.
@Basslicks82 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, man. Informative and entertaining is a good combo.
@meh.7539 2 жыл бұрын
JPL engineer watches too many Road Runner cartoons and thinks to himself: "Hey, that Coyote is on to something..."
@jordaneggerman4734 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that Beetle looked like something Wile E Coyote had driven, when ol' Mr. Pitiful (the Black Widow's driver's nickname) was done with it!
@daszieher 2 жыл бұрын
So ACME is really a JPL spinoff? 😃
@keijimorita1849 2 жыл бұрын
Now I want a tattoo of him as a tuner!
@henryjones2891 2 жыл бұрын
Just in case you want to get into drag racing, remember you’ll never be as great as 5 second rocket cart great.
@loganwierema6136 2 жыл бұрын
What about a 10,000 hp top fuel dragster
@igeal3567 2 жыл бұрын
Na man the 34000 HP Toyota Prius from Elanip
@Zo-Rage1 2 жыл бұрын
@@igeal3567 thirty four thousand hp? U sure?
@igeal3567 2 жыл бұрын
na man that's the ultimate evolution of the Toyota Prius
@Realtime1501 2 жыл бұрын
Sammy Miller in his rocket car 3.41 second 1/4 mile
@howitstartsmm 2 ай бұрын
Actually I have a turbonique supercharger complete with documents of test runs and correspondence between my father in law and turbonique discussing being a franchise owner. The record run in the gocart was done at Beeline Dragway in Arizona, doesn't exist anymore. My father in law holds the speed record to this day. He's not with us anymore but his stories are hilarious on how they did testing. Another is when they raced the jet powered Green Monster and the track forced him to wear a fire suit because he was sitting on a gocart next to an after burner. Anyway, great story and you didn't even scratch the surface of the insanity, like federal agents busting down doors confiscating equipment. Love to hear old racing history. Great job.
@halidehelux5221 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are always pretty funny...and it can be quite hard to be genuinely funny and not just cringe. They also have alot of awsome educational value and history of automation. To sum it up, they are well researched and well written.
@back-woods 2 жыл бұрын
The next Hi-lo should be building muscle cars cheap vs expensive
@smac919 2 жыл бұрын
Eh.. They should do drift cars and learn how to drift. Would make for wayyyyyy better episodes.
@rexhrabetin8642 2 жыл бұрын
@@smac919 that’s not as cool and they already did tuner style cars with locking & but welded difs for drifting
@BurnPerimeter 2 жыл бұрын
@@smac919 I disagree, the 350z hi-low was similar enough for me, but I would not say no to your recommendation
@Zetaforce-uv8el 2 жыл бұрын
1970s Camaros are cheap which would be a good idea
@howtoplay4794 2 жыл бұрын
They should do volvos xD
@bosewicht2389 2 жыл бұрын
That rocket fuel powered turbocharger is super cool, just imagine the sound of a V8 that sounds like NA but is not NA
@denisohbrien 2 жыл бұрын
theres at least one hillclimb car in the UK that uses a helicopter APU to provide, always-on-instant boost. so do-able with modern tech.
@mickmuzzmkmz1628 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting topic, thanks! Also funny!😄
@ClydeDCamel-mv6ml 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! This video was a blast down memory lane. Back in 1962 or 63 my brother and I were looking into putting a Turbonique into out 1956 Ford. We would have done it if we had the money. If we became a dealer, we could have gotten the Turbonique for less, but it was still too much money for us.
@valentinsignargout4744 2 жыл бұрын
Can we all spend a minute considering the fact that there is a motorcycle on the market that actually works pretty similar to that turbo AXLE, and runs on jet fuel ? All praise the Y2K 450R.
@lukeyarasheski5510 2 жыл бұрын
What was that God awful motorcycle movie that was like a bootleg fast and furious and the protagonist had a jet bike and a Carpe Diem jacket... That is literally all I remember. What kind of bike was that?
@jacksonmcgraw2187 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukeyarasheski5510 torque.
@r.y.o723 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukeyarasheski5510 it was indeed an helicopter turbine powered bike, the MTT y2k
@valentinsignargout4744 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukeyarasheski5510 never seen the movie I believe, but now that I know it exists, I might lose 2 hrs of my life investigating this :D The Y2K is indeed a bike with a helicopter turbine, which makes absolutely no f***ING sense out of a drag strip as those engines are made to work at a fixed RPM, meaning it has to have absolute crap throttle response!
@r.y.o723 2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinsignargout4744 it got an automatic gearbox, so you just build the revs, then let off the brakes
@vlga8917 2 жыл бұрын
hearing the /14 mile time on the gokart gave me chills
@X11CHASE 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to give it a shot, I’m willing to die to experience that
@CoolAsFreya Жыл бұрын
Some of the inventions in this video reminded me of the "booster engine" concept on later built steam locomotives. The rear axle (normally unpowered) had an auxiliary two piston steam engine for extra torque when starting and at low speed, powered by the steam pressure from the main boiler through flexible pipes! They actually proved to be effective in many locomotives worldwide but the invention came too little too late as diesel and electric locomotives took the market, still interesting!
@Demonslayer20111 Жыл бұрын
Contrary to popular belief steam didn't die because it was inefficient or not as powerful. Quite the opposite. Steam died because a diesel only needed one crewmember
@MrDragpics Жыл бұрын
@@Demonslayer20111 Theres a guy in the u k with a steam powered motor bike......
@Demonslayer20111 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDragpics ok? And steam cars existed too. How does that relate to steam locomotives, which are much bigger and go a lot farther?
@MrDragpics Жыл бұрын
@@Demonslayer20111 The Guys name is Graham Sykes it is a rocket bike that uses steam under pressure,so using water instead of using rocket fuel its kinder safer than rocket fuel.
@roywhiteo5 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this company on a jalopnik article back in the early 2000s. it was hilarious how the products just got crazier and crazier and ending with the rocket drag axle. they didnt show the tobacco king car but it looked completely insane
@albertparente584 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered when/if you’d cover historic automotive parts like the rocket axle. It’d be much safer today. But would Tech let it fly after the initial pass using this? 🤔🤔🤔
@ALIVE8455 2 жыл бұрын
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@2gj906 2 жыл бұрын
Man, the 60s were crazy, I reckon the turboaxle guy would've been good buddies with dr John Strap
@karelpgbr 2 жыл бұрын
Who is Dr John Strap? But I do agree, the 60s and 70s were crazy with all the “innovations” and development. (Innovations in quotation marks because they weren’t all good)
@frenchonion4595 2 жыл бұрын
That was the golden age. So much more creativity back then and people actually had to use they're brain. Not many bolt on parts like today you had to fab it
@slaughterhousechi 2 жыл бұрын
was always curious on this. great vid. lowkey a good advertisment for n02 and electric vehicles.
@kenferguson3349 2 жыл бұрын
The basic concept seems similar to the "cruise range extender" direct drive turbo added to the P-47 fighter of WWII. The P-47 used waste exhaust to power it vs chemical fuel, but it was directly coupled to the crankshaft. The idea was to turn wasted energy into increased range, but if they would have thought to add a combustion chamber they might have been able to use it to increase power (P-47 with an afterburner boost ?! )
@surfernorm6360 2 жыл бұрын
US metallurgy wasn't up to it then. After we captured the german jets they started working on immediatly. But we didn't have metal that could handle the heat until the F86 and the star fighter of the korean war
@dc5189 2 жыл бұрын
Legitimately the best channel on KZfaq by a mile. Top knotch engineering comedy journalism. True innovation.
@EmoNemoNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Missed an opportunity to say, "He went from developing killer weapons systems, to killer car mods."
@nunessilva2162 2 жыл бұрын
One of the craziest things I've heard. Brilliant
@toxic_horchata 2 жыл бұрын
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO COVER THIS!!
@larryengelbrecht6704 2 жыл бұрын
I remember ads for the Turbonique. They had a 500 and a 1000hp unit. I almost bought one but was told it burned hydrazine, which was extremely difficult to get, not to mention dangerous.
@davidvoinier6008 2 жыл бұрын
Worked just as well on nitromethane and gasoline. Tommy Ivo tried running a AA dragster on hydrazine and it was unreliable.
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the 'safe version' of this is called a turboshaft. I really feel like monopropellant rocket fuels represent the biggest item of concern for any improvement of the original design. Yeah, a throttle might improve things a bit, but the real problem is the fuel that wants to explode.
@butterdubs2267 2 жыл бұрын
So your saying the next version should switch to a hypergolic propellant? I like the way you think.
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 2 жыл бұрын
@@butterdubs2267 If you really wanna live out Me 163 pilot fantasies you can try that version. I'll stick with an air-breathing kerosene powered version if I'm driving.
@ryanslut5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@butterdubs2267 how u make that? 🇳🇿
@villagelightsmith4375 2 жыл бұрын
"If it makes noise, goes fast, or blows up ..." was all the inspiration we needed back then,
@fatpad00 2 жыл бұрын
A turboshaft is a style of jet engine, like those found in helicopters. Similar concept though, both work by thrust being applied to a turbine. Difference is just how that thrust is generated
@ypaulbrown 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, my buddy lived across the Street from Turbonique in Orlando , Florida on Kent Street, we would dig through the dumpster all the time and pull out all kinds of cool stuff, we were in the 6th through 9th grade back then.........so we had an interest in cars too...we got to see all kinds of fast cars they were building for others....a Teenager's dream come true, I only lived a few blocks away, so we thought nothing of it.....so cool for you to do an episode on these guys......cheers from Orlando, Paul , now a 70 year old car guy..........
@MrDanthemaniam 2 жыл бұрын
What a trip to stumble across this video. I still have from as a kid, a magazine called Hot Rotor that chronicles all this stuff from Turbonique. The made several models of turbines and rockets of varying power. The model you highlight is an axil design but thy had several others that were radial. They were essentially the hot turbine of a turbocharger with one of their rocket engines combustion chambers plumbed onto the inlet. There is no reason why you couldn't run any of these units on other fuels. You'd just have to get your injectors and pressures right. Go for it!
@Veikra 2 жыл бұрын
talking about tech we'd like to see with a modern twist; I'd like to see 2 strokes engines coming back with direct injection. 12v71 anyone?
@karelpgbr 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@5.9manualzj 2 жыл бұрын
2 stroke diesels 💕💕
@jlowe5944 2 жыл бұрын
A 12v71 is direct injected
@Veikra 2 жыл бұрын
@@jlowe5944 They are not direct injection in the CONTEMPORARY meaning which was the point here. If you call injecting in the cylinder modern direct injection then you could call antechamber injection direct as well, and thus all diesels. 71 series are purely mechanical unit injection running off a camshaft. Far from common rail injection we call direct injection now. Less precise. Removing reliance on camshaft, high injection pressure and multiple injections per cycle could quiet the 2 stroke, lower emission and increase power.
@TheBeeMan1994 2 жыл бұрын
@@Veikra Modern fuel injection on a 2 stroke you say? Let me introduce you to the EMD 710 series built and designed by detroit diesel and electro motive division of GM for use in locomotive and marine applications. But for real, just look up EMD 710 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/itNmaqR3xq3Qn2w.html
@levirassler4934 2 жыл бұрын
I can honestly say I've never watched something where the ad portions were actually fun to watch or the right kind of silly. Donut team, you guys nail it pretty much every video and trust us, we appreciate it. Content is amazing as well!
@slow330xi3 2 жыл бұрын
U done ? Wipe ya knees
@levirassler4934 2 жыл бұрын
@@slow330xi3 gotta suck going through life that bitter that you need to make fun of positive reviews.
@robertmyles9124 2 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who skips through Donut's ads? I'm here to see the content of whatever the video is about, not the testicle discoloration cream or whatever other funky product Pumphrey is trying to sell for someone else that week.
@kevinmccubbin2385 2 жыл бұрын
Try Samcrac or Rich's Rebuilds, hilarious and smooth
@pistonfury Жыл бұрын
Jerries B2B intro is the best on Donut Media!
@jonnysnakes5417 8 ай бұрын
Didn't know i needed this but now i do
@danielpostas 2 жыл бұрын
11:01 reminds me of the story about an RV owner that flat towed their new jeep but it was in 4-low. At highway speeds they figured the engine probably reached 50k RPM.
@deandrej674 2 жыл бұрын
Ypu would tjink they had dome research if jeeps can be flat towed and if aldo they disconnected the drive shafts
@MrTheHillfolk 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw that , that's pretty sweet. If I recall,the trans or transfer case was basically a melted blob of aluminum. 50k rpms haha that's badass
@Eric2300jeep 2 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine sitting in that Jeep while everything was spinning up like that? It had to have seized at some point before 50k lol
@austinarmstrong9729 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eric2300jeep it was estimated the engine let go at 11k, the crazy number was a theoretical
@althejazzman 2 жыл бұрын
James and Jeremiah both successfully reviving the 80's moustache.
@caseyaylward8853 2 жыл бұрын
Dude your totally right. You can't argue with the results, it worked. If someone nowadays figured out a way to do this safely and cheap they'd be on to something.
@gabepence1018 2 жыл бұрын
Loving that mouse pointer @ 4:00 lol
@FraggleRockKid 2 жыл бұрын
I love when a channel strokes my engineering ego and dooks on marketing.
@X11CHASE 2 жыл бұрын
Marketing brings engineering to life. Good engineering is the soul behind (My opinion only)
@gabeshaw3721 2 жыл бұрын
The next hi-low should be trying to get as many MPG as possible out of like a subcompact or something
@Starfighter-nk4mo 2 жыл бұрын
I would so watch that
@aspecreviews 2 жыл бұрын
Mild Hybrid conversion!
@isaactrockman4417 2 жыл бұрын
That would be cool
@trashbandit2449 2 жыл бұрын
Would be very interesting
@trashbandit2449 2 жыл бұрын
The low would have to start with like a prius and the high would start with a tesla and then that'd be it
@troydorr4867 Жыл бұрын
HOLY CRAP MAN! THATS NUCKIN FUCTS! Huge fan of all you guys, and everything you guys do! 🤟
@uNkLeRaRa4 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 35 and been into cars since I was otn my teens. I'm JUST now realizing "Turbo" and "Turbine" are intertwined.. you really do learn something new everyday
@mawulena 2 жыл бұрын
1300 hrsprs just insane
@samsungfridge1895 2 жыл бұрын
Supra has 1300 stock
@noahmagnum8862 2 жыл бұрын
@@samsungfridge1895 Um no
@SamP0rterBridges 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomGuy37 if you think dude was serious, I'd like to welcome you to the internet. It must be your first day on here
@chrisfieldsend7016 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@matthewsever 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the official Donut rocket powered go kart... You know they thought about it.
@jimrealperson4529 Жыл бұрын
I was told that these rocket turbo axles were advertised in the JCWhitney catalogs during the 1960's and I already wanted one sight unseen.Finally I got to see this pictorial for the first time.During the 1980's while I was modifying big block mopars to go faster down the dragstrip(the street) a rocket scientist (my father) told me of these axles.Thankyou for the presentation that satisfied my curiosity finally that has lasted half my lifetime.
@Joe___R 2 жыл бұрын
That does sound like a fun addition to any vehicle.
@thetheflyinghawaiian 2 жыл бұрын
Lol @ 4:05 the editor was just screen capping an old video off KZfaq you can see the mouse.
@fitkid1163 2 жыл бұрын
Ok... and...? The editors work super hard on these videos and yeah that’s a screen cap but it’s Jobe in the Miata.
@marcusborderlands6177 2 жыл бұрын
@@fitkid1163 its just kinda funny
@eduardsmirnov7736 Жыл бұрын
I just love how you deliver the information! Exactly the way I like 😎
@amirnaim3675 2 жыл бұрын
I mean Porsche calls cayennes with sloped rooflines as coupes for some reason. They're very great at giving pointless names
@deandrej674 2 жыл бұрын
Not just Porsche, both bmw and Mercedes have an SUV with a sloped roofline that arr also called "coupes" im like excuse me what???
@josephgilliand4 2 жыл бұрын
The volkswagon beetle is shaped just like an airplane wing! But they didn't expect it to take off fly at 200+mph? I would have! LOL
@myotherbrotherdarrel4495 2 жыл бұрын
Wings are flat. Bugs are round
@timsmith7112 Жыл бұрын
I think this should be revisited. More options are available for fuel sources now that are less volatile. Better steel available and so on. Love the videos you all do
@402SHO 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought at first u where talking about turbos mounted at the rear axle. Like Cleetus Marauder. But now I see this is wild 😂
@brodyvega5774 2 жыл бұрын
"Now that we know marketers are liars." 🤣🤣🤣
@Nza420 Жыл бұрын
I worked with an old mechanic who told me about a pinto with this setup. Thanks for the actual low-down on it.
@patrickgoncalves3878 2 жыл бұрын
That subtle humor about the rocket go kart was very funny.
@tubaterry 2 жыл бұрын
Can I just say that I appreciate the way y'all do your sponsored segments? It's entertaining, it's fully distinct from the rest of the video so I don't have to worry if the whole thing is paid, and it's generally on-topic stuff too. (Tho i won the genetic lottery and don't need Keeps yet lol) Anyway yeah, good shit team, thanks for kickin' ass.
@BigG507 2 жыл бұрын
"the Beatle decided it was actually a rocket and went airborne" - epic
@jzxtrd337 2 жыл бұрын
It took a trajectory towards London
@waynethomas1726 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still shaking my head about the go kart guy!
@robertmyles9124 2 жыл бұрын
@@jzxtrd337 I think I'm the only one who understood your joke. It was a good one though.
@fourthplanet 2 жыл бұрын
must say fellas, this one impressed the hell out of me. Good Job! Looking forward to the Wiley Coyote episode
@markbuterbuagh4971 2 жыл бұрын
My older brother was messing with this on his go kart .In 1967 or 68 but just stuff crazy back then in So Cal.
@larrycamargo4626 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the movie IRobot when will smith character is diving off on a motorcycle and the scientist on back asks “please tell me this doesn’t run on gasoline. Gasoline explodes you know?” People look at past technology and realize how dangerous it was or could have been. Who knew sending rocket fuel in the mail was dangerous. lol
@lrrowley 2 жыл бұрын
Man Jeremiah was great in this one, probably my favorite episode to date! The explanations were great and the jokes were 🔥🔥
@gkarapeev 2 жыл бұрын
I totally wanna see you guys engineering a turbo axle!
@davidmay3504 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely make one!
@helpmereach45ksubswithoutvideo 2 жыл бұрын
These videos is the thing we need in our lives
@thezimra9429 2 жыл бұрын
soooooooooooo whens the "we add a turbo axel to the miata" or " we build our own turbo axel" episode?
@cjsickmeier2189 Жыл бұрын
I like how KZfaq put an ad in the middle of your zebra ad.
@BenchmarkRadio 2 жыл бұрын
First off.. that ZEBRA AD… is basically what actual meditation feels like.
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