Doom Development: Birth of the Christmas Gun

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Doom Development: Birth of the Christmas Gun

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Ай бұрын

A quick bonus video, in which I'll cover some stuff I missed in the previous chapter of "Classic Doom Shenanigans" - including the last few maps of the Doom 0.5 Alpha, as well as the Press Release Beta, which was the last pre-release version of Doom we got access to.
No Christmas trees were harmed in the making of this video (but a few pinkies got blown up).

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@lancebaylis3169 Ай бұрын

"JIngle Bells, you demonic bastards!!" 🤣🤣🤣

@AlexeiVoronin Ай бұрын

Sounds like a Schwarzenegger one-liner ;)

@coffeegrinder3413 Ай бұрын

@@AlexeiVoronin Omg someone put this through a voice generator, give it to me, now!

@HerrHick Ай бұрын

Oh a new video already, it must be Christmas.

@jimcameron6803 Ай бұрын

Interesting stuff. I look forward to more exploration of Doom trivia.

@GreatFox42 Ай бұрын

19:26 - I actually much prefer how this looks to in the final. In the final the floor are the white pebbles and the walls is that beige with the metal pipes and splotches of green. Here, it's wooden floors and frames with flesh on the walls, so it has a more consistent color scheme that I think's more gentle on the eyes. Maybe making it ugly was the point because corruption but nonetheless. Also, I love Containment Area too. Probably my top favorite actually (from UD at least). Going on a Berserk rampage is fun.

@AlexeiVoronin Ай бұрын

Indeed. I remember falling in love with this map the very first time I saw it - the combination of a crate maze and a slow/quit music in the background felt so good.

@jess648 Ай бұрын

episodes probably changed places because of difficulty reasons. ngl I kinda like the progression of the final with the initial invaded Phobos base, the further corrupted sister base on Deimos and then plunging straight into hell

@coffeegrinder3413 Ай бұрын

Awesome video! Please do make more. ^_^ Interesting how a lot of the original ideas ended up in Doom3 almost like Doombible describes it. I kinda feel that Doom3 was still missing quite a bit it could have had, but interesting how those original ideas lived on. And the jinglebell BFG, its really so silly, feels kinda gamey, its no wonder Romero ended up disliking it. The final BFG feels like a real experimental scifi weapon instead of this silly unholyday celebration device. :D

@AlexeiVoronin Ай бұрын

It does make some sense, though - anything Christmas-related should hurt demons, so a Christmas gun would be a great weapon against them :P

@coffeegrinder3413 Ай бұрын

@@AlexeiVoronin Yep, definitely not a fan favourite in Hell so no wonder it works. xD Someone should make a mod on which all guns would shoot pretty fluffy decorations and stuff on Dec 25th and deal double damage.

@hfc2x Ай бұрын

Hello, Alexei. There's something I forgot to mention on the last video about the textures, and how they get all glitched in the alphas. The reason for this is because at that point, the engine could not tile textures yet. This is why, if you open the earlier alphas in SLADE, and look at the textures, they're incredibly wide, most of them being 1024 units wide. In the released vanilla Doom, most textures are at most 128 units wide, with only some of them being 256. The window being behind a wall at 2:50 is because at that stage, the renderer still didn't use the BSP technique of the final game. It instead used something called portals, and to render a scene, the renderer would step through sectors multiple times, slowing down tremendously in certain sector setups. There's a DoomWorld thread explaining the renderer in the alphas, and there's many KZfaq videos explaining the vanilla Doom renderer as well. It's one of the reasons Romero had to change his original setup for the starting room of E1M2, because originally it was a pillar in the middle of some circular staircase. He then changed it to the structure the level is known for, and the level could play normally.

@guyg.8529 Ай бұрын

BTW, the portal rendering was used in the Build engine, except for stairs (raycasting was used for those). It was less optimised than the DOOM rendering using BSP, but it wasn't a problem since processor were more powerfull when Duke Nukem 3D was available.

@teranokitty Ай бұрын

I had no idea about the levels above 9 in Alpha 0.5. Thanks for showing it! Another interesting tidbit about the Press Release Beta: I think the Cacodemons don't fly yet. Like the beta lost soul, they're still normal ground based enemies that just visually float. Also, the Chainsaw behaves differently, it doesn't "lock on" to a target like the release version. I'm loving your videos!

@AlexeiVoronin Ай бұрын

It is possible, yes. Something I noticed about the Cacos is that their fireball appears a bit low/closer to the floor than it does in the final game.

@NeilForshaw Ай бұрын

That's interesting. I thought Sandy did the whole of E1M8. Looks like Tom Hall started it and Sandy just finished it.

@Markworth Ай бұрын

Wow. Never saw the Alpha E1M3, somehow. I feel stupid. Also, IIRC, the Beta Lost Soul attack is not real hitscan. My theory is that they based it on Wolf3D attacks, but I never looked at the source code for it.

@hfc2x Ай бұрын

It's not a hitscan attack, and it's not a Wolf3D attack either. It's the same damage function monster melee attacks use (DamageMobj), but they can use it at any distance.

@Markworth Ай бұрын

@@hfc2x So it just hits? Well that's wonderful and very fair. Oof.

@guyg.8529 Ай бұрын

Nice and interesting vidéo, as always.

@robertspeck4935 Ай бұрын

Another sunday listening to alexei's soothing narration

@user-tx5xz5ws1d Ай бұрын

Babe wake up, Alexei just uploaded

@AdamChristensen Ай бұрын

It's Christmas in July!

@wadmodderschalton5763 Ай бұрын

The Beta BFG feels like a bunch of lower-budgeted special effects put into a blender to create the Christmas Cannon (or Christmas Gun)

@AlexeiVoronin Ай бұрын

@@wadmodderschalton5763 And I bet it tastes like candy :P

@RetroHorrorInk Ай бұрын

You the man!

@wadmodderschalton5763 Ай бұрын

Also the Dead Lost Soul decoration coded for the Press Release Beta belonging to the Original Lost Soul design was broken when id Software changed the design of the creature, resulting in the last couple of frames of its death animation to play in its place. This anomaly can only be seen if the decoration is at the start of the level.

@majamystic256 Ай бұрын

I think I remember Slige Randomly Generated levels having a dead lost soul right at the start and you can see the animation

@dynamitekaitorn7175 Ай бұрын

Fun fact about alpha 0.5: You can crouch! It's super rough and if you try to go up a step it crashes the game.

@AlexeiVoronin Ай бұрын

Ha ha, true - I actually tried it out a while ago, but then totally forgot about it while recording.

@jess648 Ай бұрын

probably axed for technical issues and not much gameplay utility. funny how ZDoom would add it properly years later

@bluebay0 Ай бұрын

3:42 doesn't that triangle texture exist in the final game only inverted?

@AlexeiVoronin Ай бұрын

Yeah, I can think of a similar texture, in which the triangle is a darker color.

@BenAkenobi Ай бұрын

Do you happen to have similar collection of Quake alphas/betas or some other classic shooters?

@AlexeiVoronin Ай бұрын

Yes, several years ago I came across two more rare pre-releases of Quake, the 0.8 Beta and some sort of Press Release beta, which is a somewhat earlier version of the 0.8 one. These betas are interesting due to some levels being in different order, and also the final boss map is completely different. There are some graphical differences as well...