Doom II: Sunder - Map 09 (The Cage) UV-Max in

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Zero Master

Zero Master

2 жыл бұрын

Runner: Zero-Master
IWAD: Doom2.wad
PWAD: Sunder.wad
Category: UV-Max
Map: 09 (The Cage)
Source Port (Demo): Woof v7.0.0
Source Port (Video): DSDA-Doom v0.22.2
Time: 19:52.06
Description:
Improves the previous record by 13 minutes and 4 seconds.
Goal was sub 20 so I played it a bit safe at times. Not too famailiar with the terrain and it's not always flat which means I could easily run off the ledge if I'm not careful, so my movement is slow some places. This run went ok up until the halfway point where I lost more time than what I would have liked.
A couple of monsters wandered off and it took a while to kill them, can't run to them since I'd get locked in from a linedef I skipped earlier. Then I messed up the switch press to activate the wall to the last teleporter, but it didn't cost me too much time. Forgetting to activate the final switch is a disaster and nearly cost me sub 20. I thought it was going to be too slow as the start of the final fight wasn't ideal, it's quite easy so I play really dumb here and nearly died. Sometimes I had to use lots of rockets to clear the remaining monsters, here I had 200 cells left so I have no idea, just got lucky with infighting I guess.
Route/Strategy:
Quite a few tricks to start this level off, first I get on top of the raising bars to skip some monster teleports at the start. Then a rocket jump to skip past blue key door and get to the BFG immediately which is obviously going to save a lot of time. Then a north lindef skip to prevent getting locked in which leaves me with 3 invulnerabilites in that area while it is completely open. I also have access to 1 mega sphere, 3 soul spheres and a mega armor + in the next area 3 soul spheres and a mega armor... needless to say there's a lot of resources here and I can pretty much do whatever I want. However all of that stuff isn't going to mean anything when one of the cyberdemons sends you flying over the edge which happened a few times. One thing I cannot do is enter the area which will take you to the final fight as there is no way out of there and the linedef is too difficult to skip for it to be worth it.
Next step is to just get everything to teleport in, then grab an invulnerability and take care of a couple of cyberdemons so they won't be a problem later. Ideally you wouldn't want to touch the cyberdemons and have them infight, but the one on the other side is both dangerous and useless, while the other 3 don't really get much done. So I figured killing one and dealing damage to the others under the invulnerability is a lot safer without really sacrificing much time. Then just clear out as many monsters as possible before moving on towards the blue key.
There's 500 cells + several rockets before blue key so I use most of my ammo by that point. Sometimes the cacodemons that teleport in the next section are a bit slow, so I'll wait here for a little while to make sure I got them all, would be better to just keep count of them of course. Don't have to wait for the switch to be available here, just go around the wall. Once you get blue key you go straight back to the start, you get a lot of cells and rockets at this point so you can go crazy with it, no need to worry about landing good BFGs. Once I get to blue key door I use the invulnerability to kill both the next cyberdemons instead of just 1, makes it a lot safer. Need to be careful to not shoot the cyberdemon off the map though, which can easily happen if you're not careful, not to mention him sending you off.
You can also go back to the other area by simply walking around one of the torches, which is what I do once I've cleared out everything around blue key door, would be faster to skip it obviously. Clear out the next section, need to double check the area for late teleporters, usually nothing is delayed too much. More cleanup before going into the final area. In the room you get locked in you can easily activate the switch to the teleporter wall first. You could also leave an invulnerability here and use it in the final fight, but it doesn't make much difference.
The final fight is pretty easy since there are monster block lines around the central area. You want to get the viles with the first invulnerability once you notice them. With the second invulnerability you want to use your rockets on the hell knights and barons since there will be several of them alive in the end and you'll probably run out of cells.

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@_antares031
@_antares031 2 жыл бұрын
Zero Master, just casually beating Sunder MAP09 like eating a breakfast, improving the previous record by 13 minutes and 4 seconds
@jorgebohyn
@jorgebohyn 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr? This guy is really something else, what a legend.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 2 жыл бұрын
@@jorgebohyn An absolute legend, as put by Karl Jobst.
@misharatkevich9808
@misharatkevich9808 2 жыл бұрын
Sunder: places BFG anywhere on the map Zero Master: finds a way to get it first
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 2 жыл бұрын
ZM: Hippity hoppity, that BFG is now my property!
@al_zera
@al_zera 2 жыл бұрын
Everything here is a masterpiece: the map design, the gameplay, the run. Thanks for eternalizing all of this on this video.
@anthraxmorbus
@anthraxmorbus 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I tend to disagree; The map is indeed imposing, with beautiful textures and layout, but the gameplay is lacking. Reminds me the precarious map basically with the kaizo unescapable pits.The troll level skyrockets when you have to wait for the switches appear,which really affects the momentum and the action tempo. Just my humble opinion.
@RozarSmacco
@RozarSmacco 2 жыл бұрын
‘Immortalizing” is the word you want in lieu of ‘eternalizing’ imho
@andrewpegg5321
@andrewpegg5321 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder how one even figures out the progression through this map. Long time doom fan and man, have times changed. Always love the content!
@Althandan
@Althandan 2 жыл бұрын
I love that knockback at 1:30
@hilaireb795
@hilaireb795 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most fire midi I have ever heard. wow!
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 2 жыл бұрын
This is "Industrial" by Paul Simon Judd (AKA Sirjuddington or Slayer, and yes, it's the same Slayer responsible for SLADE), and it first starred in the Hellcore map "Defying the Odds".
@zebug4762
@zebug4762 2 жыл бұрын
@@DinnerForkTongue Hellcore 2 is one of my absolute favourite wads, especially when combined with the WWHC-Diaz mod. This music was really what kept me going through one of the more difficult pistol-start levels in the wad.
@Deripse
@Deripse 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute madman, great job
@andrewpegg5321
@andrewpegg5321 2 жыл бұрын
Also, not gonna lie the music to gameplay at 8:38 is absolute fire
@Runeblade-qr8nn
@Runeblade-qr8nn 2 жыл бұрын
The master who have no equal ! keep it going man always love to watch you playing
@terrytrollface
@terrytrollface 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that elaborate cyberdemon frag 👌
@silentone3852
@silentone3852 2 жыл бұрын
Still my favorite map in this WAD. The music gets me so pumped 🎶 Amazing run as usual 👏
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue Жыл бұрын
In case you care, the track is called "Industrial" and was composed by Paul Judd, the SlayeR that created the SLADE editor. First starred in Hellcore 2.0 map05.
@jorgebohyn
@jorgebohyn 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most impressive runs I've seen so far. Looking forward to the upcoming maps!
@jmanders2007
@jmanders2007 2 жыл бұрын
I have thoroughly enjoyed these runs Zero! You are the man dude! Also loved the music of this map!
@respectfulremastersbymetal8336
@respectfulremastersbymetal8336 2 жыл бұрын
When TAS wants to cheat, it uses a Zero Master.
@TheLadiesDream
@TheLadiesDream 2 жыл бұрын
This run is absolutely amazing. Zero Master you really are on a whole new level. Thank you I really enjoy your runs, you are nothing short of a true legend.
@filip000
@filip000 2 жыл бұрын
It's been quite a while since last time, I've been looking this much forward to a new upload. Another great upload from the master himself.
@ablayhappy8969
@ablayhappy8969 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best walkthrough I've seen. I just enjoy seeing you go through the map professionally. Looking forward to the next doom 2 Sunder video! The 10th card will probably be even tougher!
@anttitikkanen8757
@anttitikkanen8757 2 жыл бұрын
Doom is good game.
@Harzexe
@Harzexe 2 жыл бұрын
I like the textures, sky box, bloody paths and overall design of the level. Truly a Hell City! 💀
@BohdanS15
@BohdanS15 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best Doom midis of all time, "The Industrial", fits the atmosphere of a giant slaughter map so well. Also, nice work, ZeroMaster!
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 2 жыл бұрын
Slayer is a hecking underrated composer.
@adfaklsdjf
@adfaklsdjf Жыл бұрын
where could I find the midi online? Googling '"the industrial" doom midi' is not working out for me...
@AnticitizenOne
@AnticitizenOne 7 ай бұрын
@@adfaklsdjf so I realize it’s been almost a year since you asked but I saw in another comment that the composer’s name is Paul Judd aka SlayeR (I think?). I hope this can help you or that you’ve found it by now!
@adfaklsdjf
@adfaklsdjf 7 ай бұрын
@@AnticitizenOne even searches like 'slayer "the industrial"' aren't turning up anything that looks like it's related. OP referenced a midi file called "The Industrial"... does Slayer have a song called "The Industrial"?
@khalidsaifullah1321
@khalidsaifullah1321 2 жыл бұрын
As usual A treat to watch him play doom 😌
@humanbeing_
@humanbeing_ 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible route. I fully expected you'd break this map a bit, but this route has some next-level strategies. GG 🏆
@spark556
@spark556 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing map and even more amazing run
@marcelopardo4791
@marcelopardo4791 2 жыл бұрын
Since your last upload i was thinking "how is Zero going to break the regular progression of this map..." And look and behold he rocket faced to the BFG... awesome. If you are reading this...i know a lot of people are asking about it and you are not inclined to answer it maybe...but are you playing beyond map 14?? (I know you playong 2010-2011 version), a "maybe" As an answer will suffice please. Are you going to bright our 2022? Please? I love this runs. ☹️
@ZomB1986
@ZomB1986 2 жыл бұрын
Insane_gazebo will turn in his g- ehm, chair when he sees how you play this!
@dmitriyg1030
@dmitriyg1030 2 жыл бұрын
It becomes more and more legendary with every map!
@lovelesstv
@lovelesstv 2 жыл бұрын
back to back non-iwad runs, a true blessing
@TheTummynator
@TheTummynator 2 жыл бұрын
I blinked and missed the whole playthrough. Well done sir!
@ashwin.unlead
@ashwin.unlead 2 жыл бұрын
OST is dope too
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 2 жыл бұрын
"Industrial" by Paul Simon "SlayeR" Judd. First appeared in Hellcore, was also used in Valiant.
@jlczgames95
@jlczgames95 Жыл бұрын
Well. A few weeks ago I decided to play Sunder. Watched a few ZM's vids and the maps look so complicated and difficult that I won't probably even give it a try. The more I am impressed that this guy can walk through this so well.
@managut
@managut 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome run.
@DiamantisGR
@DiamantisGR 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ dude! You smashed it!
@sempersasha
@sempersasha 2 жыл бұрын
Zero Master is like Magnus Carlsen, but in Doom. No, better is to say... Magnus Carlsen is like Zero Master, but in chess. A flying Cyberdemon at 1:29. Now I saw everything!!!
@xmarkclx
@xmarkclx 2 жыл бұрын
Zero Master is so skilled, the Cyberdemon just jumped out of fear.
@sempersasha
@sempersasha 2 жыл бұрын
​@@xmarkclx Wow! What an interesting explanation!!!
@ThatHomestar
@ThatHomestar 2 жыл бұрын
excellent work! i've never tried playing through sunder in any proper sense but i have strolled around the maps with noclip and godmode, they seem like quite the ordeal
@UbergamR447
@UbergamR447 2 жыл бұрын
you are a legend! :)
@erickbirkin3622
@erickbirkin3622 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is a legend
@TheCyberDruid
@TheCyberDruid 2 жыл бұрын
The skip at the start is really interesting. Very cool video again :)
@FACF0416
@FACF0416 2 жыл бұрын
I knew Zero Master was a TRUE, hardcore Doom fan.
@FACF0416
@FACF0416 2 жыл бұрын
The speedrun heaven.
@nickd3157
@nickd3157 2 жыл бұрын
Savage. Well done zeromaster! Been waiting for the next upload! Also yay im first for a change! The sheer volume of carrion is ludicrous!
@reptongeek
@reptongeek 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched several playthroughs of this WAD but my memory of this map was completely missing for some reason. Nice use of Requiem textures throughout I laughed at that early Cyberdemon kill when he was blown off the ledge
@slim_pickins
@slim_pickins Жыл бұрын
My word, that rocket jump...
@stefanwentink3963
@stefanwentink3963 2 жыл бұрын
Art.
@xx4dr14nxx5
@xx4dr14nxx5 2 жыл бұрын
so cool
@janpetras9602
@janpetras9602 2 жыл бұрын
My Doom idol!!
@Mob720
@Mob720 2 жыл бұрын
Babe get up, new zero master sunder dropped
@Black-Cow
@Black-Cow 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wait and wait this stage
@SalDOWN
@SalDOWN 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, just wow. 😏
@waxkun
@waxkun 2 жыл бұрын
Brutal
@DuckReconMajor
@DuckReconMajor 2 жыл бұрын
THE. BEST. SUNDER. MAP.
@nateg6320
@nateg6320 2 жыл бұрын
My brain 🧠 is officially blown!!
@CarmeloSantosF
@CarmeloSantosF 2 жыл бұрын
holy shit
@user-fs2jl1ml6i
@user-fs2jl1ml6i 2 жыл бұрын
nICE
@joyman943
@joyman943 2 жыл бұрын
WAW , , GOOD -RESOLUTION- YOU WORK AND DESIGNING IN THIS GAME . . GOOD | G A M E R | ALSO NICE -M U S I C-
@FACF0416
@FACF0416 2 жыл бұрын
I've been playing that with MEATGRINDER mod... Damn, it makes the classic Doom games harder than the modern ones.
2 жыл бұрын
Republic of DOOM? --- Zero Master for a president. Or better - ZM for a dictator. We will be in good hands. :)
@cybershadow
@cybershadow 2 жыл бұрын
disgusting map, awesome run
@fredjones4820
@fredjones4820 2 жыл бұрын
wow the cyber demons and archviles were plenty
@IIRaZZoRII
@IIRaZZoRII 2 жыл бұрын
Insane gazebo: Wait, that's illegal! Moments later: Wait, that's illegal too! And later: What the fuck?
@willeatpants7691
@willeatpants7691 2 жыл бұрын
Boom at its finest! Yeeting cyberdemons across the tiles! I'm curious to how to map out the speed run of this. Has someone already done it before or are you making this all up one level at a time.
@jacekbourne
@jacekbourne 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. What might you be planning to do after sunder?
@DasPanoptikum
@DasPanoptikum Жыл бұрын
Zero Master Sunder in a nutshell: Exploit your way to the BFG Open up the map Induce infighting ??? Set new record
@Xerpes
@Xerpes 2 жыл бұрын
Mannn that was sick! What was the hardest level so far?
@spqninjapl
@spqninjapl 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine playing all Sunder maps on GBA :D
@rafemaxwell4143
@rafemaxwell4143 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet music.. tttt tat tttt tat t tat tat
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 2 жыл бұрын
"Industrial" by Paul Simon "SlayeR" Judd. First appeared in Hellcore, was also used in Valiant.
@Kapomafioso
@Kapomafioso 6 ай бұрын
This map always confuses me. I get lost in it so badly and always leave some item behind when I realize in that last room "welp, can't get it now, oh well". This speedrun is mad skillz.
@WilliamPetersen01
@WilliamPetersen01 Жыл бұрын
I have never EVER seen a Cyber Demon being pushed off from one platform to another below. I thought this was not possible based on the movement properties of the Cyber Demon.
@Boyka-v3-s
@Boyka-v3-s 2 жыл бұрын
So you made it this far
@user-ju2cg1he3i
@user-ju2cg1he3i 2 жыл бұрын
Cyberdemon from Doom 3.
@MiamiRyu
@MiamiRyu 2 жыл бұрын
Question, I thought the way the BFG worked in old doom was that the damage triggers based on what demons are currently in your field of view once the “green explosion” activates. Has that mechanic been changed in these new WADs? Just asking because sometimes I see you shooting a bfg and then turning around immediately after without watching the explosion, which unless I’m mistaken, would cause no damage to be done to the demons in the original game mechanics?
@Arivia1
@Arivia1 2 жыл бұрын
The bfg tracers fire in the direction the player was facing when they pressed the fire button after a short delay to generally match the ball. Line of sight is only checked by the tracers when they are fired, so you can do things like fire the ball into a wall and then immediately strafe out from behind it and the enemies take damage (as the tracers hit them now that you’re not behind the wall.) This is the classic/old behavior. Decino has a video on his channel about how the BFG works if you’d like more info.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9lzpK-Cr5epf5c.html
@antonperseus7964
@antonperseus7964 2 жыл бұрын
Sehr guter Job!Aber für sowas wäre ich viel zu langsam:)
@Runeblade-qr8nn
@Runeblade-qr8nn 2 жыл бұрын
i also love his name "Zero Master" because it have kinda 3 or more meanings. 1rst that there is no master, 2nd that he is no master, and the 3rd and final one that he have no master and never had one. Don't know if the name hides more meanings but that are the ones i found when thinking about it.
@doggastiandoggatore6402
@doggastiandoggatore6402 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention it sounds absolutely legendary. "Hey dad! I'm gonna do an essay on speedrunning, do you know of any..." "His name was Zero Master..."
@erikziak1249
@erikziak1249 2 жыл бұрын
For me it is like "Zero Time" Master. He is the fastest. Wastes zero time.
@Hyalyago
@Hyalyago 2 жыл бұрын
I admit I see it more in the line of , "Zero Master", the one that goes even before the "First Master".
@iguana9173
@iguana9173 2 жыл бұрын
16:34 nice health.
@alextcastillo1151
@alextcastillo1151 2 жыл бұрын
you can beat map 32 and 19, i know it please, please, go and get them 👍🙏🙏
@adfaklsdjf
@adfaklsdjf Жыл бұрын
What is he trying to do at 14:52? I'm also confused by all the rockets to the wall at 14:16.. I get trying to damage the mobs with splash damage but it wasn't working. P.S. I don't need it explained that Zero Master is on a level beyond my comprehension... I know he dominates in every category of every doom game. ;)
@mercenarymudcrab
@mercenarymudcrab Жыл бұрын
1. He is pressing the switch through the wall which takes a few tries. 2. Trying to kill the enemies on the other side of the fence with splash damage but it didn't work.
@KaldmigHanne
@KaldmigHanne 2 жыл бұрын
5:05 How are you able to carry such huge balls?
@mokomothman5713
@mokomothman5713 2 жыл бұрын
There's an intrinsically devious attitude to this segment, intentional or otherwise. It feels like you ascended, because while it is a UVMax run, the fact that you cleaved through 1400 demons with brutal efficiency sends a chill down my spine. Maybe it's the music helping that sensation, but you crushed this level.
@planetX15
@planetX15 2 жыл бұрын
0:34
@valaha
@valaha 2 жыл бұрын
Obliviously ZM raped this map also. That amouts of shortcuts... Damn man. Keep crushing records 👍
@Ironstarfish
@Ironstarfish 2 жыл бұрын
At 4:14 I was nervous lol
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