Happy New Years Legends. I hope you have an amazing 2020! You can use any version of Doom for the competition. Also another $100 cash prize has been put up for grabs.

I'm so proud of myself for figuring out the trick question before you revealed the answer hahahaa

6:25 "Now is a good time to talk about the main thing that makes this category so bad to play, and that's the shotgun." Oh boy, you don't know the half of it. So the shotgun fires 7 pellets, each of which deals between 5-15 points of damage, meaning all 7 pellets combined deal between 35-105 damage per shot. However, unless you're firing point blank, you'll never hit all 7 pellets, as the fired pellets have a random horizontal directional offset of between about 2.2° to 9.8°. This is all RNG dependent, which is something I'll come back to later. The three types of enemies on this map are Zombiemen, Zombie Shotgunners, and Imps. They have a health pool of 20, 30, and 60 respectively. So with one shotgun blast, assuming everything was perfectly set up, you could kill up to 3 Zombies (either variety) with a single blast (each taking 2 of the 7 pellets; one's extra), or an Imp with enough pellets left over for 1 Zombie (either variety - Imp takes 4 pellets and Zombie at least 2 of the remainder). This all relies on the shotgun firing in the optimal spread, and the pellets dealing sufficient damage (in either case the sum would need to be 90 to cleanly take out the maximum amount of any combination of enemies.) However, RNG makes this unlikely. That said, RNG works in a really interesting way in DOOM, as it always starts from the same seed. This is, in fact, how Dooms demo system works. Decino put out a video on this topic which I strongly recommend if you're interested in such things. The long and short of it is, if you could somehow play the exact same way each time, down to the very mouse inputs, you'd have the same run every time. Obviously, this isn't feasible in runs. So it primarily comes down to a combination of skill and luck. If your movement is clean, your shots are lucky, and your RNG shines on enemy actions, you can pull this off yourself.

Karl: "I'll randomly choose one of you for D:E giveaway" :D Karl: "You have to beat my record to participate" D:

“As long as you keep trying you’ll inevitably improve. You don’t need to force it, just put in the time and let the process happen naturally” -Karl Jobst Absolutely Legendary Quotes for Life

"The most annoying challenge" *Cries in Doom 2 UV MAX No Damage*

UV MAX really makes more sense across an episode (8+1 levels). The random dips of good/bad luck will even out the longer you play and the skill begins to matter more.

Apologies if this was mentioned before, but I noticed that at 4:04 4shockblast and at 10:17 Karl actually benefited from monster infighting. Yet another variable to throw into the mix.

8:53 I can just picture Doomguy running back in exasperation, throwing his arms up and just letting the zombie shoot him thanks to that little pause.

"I achieved this run..." Karl said this as if it was always his dream to be able to say these words.

This video was sponsored by Karl: Absolute Legends.

Watching speedruns like the one Shock pulled of, I think: "That guy is skilled!". But it is you, Karl, who makes him a legend by displaying to us the art that is hidden here.

*looks around for the Decino comment* He's gonna beat the time, I feel it

You're aiming with the shotgun sprite, which remains at the offset that you left it at while running. This makes it look like the shotgun is missing a shot, but if you always aim using the center of the screen (Doomguy's face), it should be much more consistent.

Man, your ideia of grinding up a run not to get the world record, but to get a very decent and challenging time to set as a target for your community to pursuit, is very original, engaging and fun. Makes your videos even better and gives us, normal mortals, a tiny bit of the experience of what is like to grind a real speedrun. You are great, man! The speedrun scene ia much better because od ya. Best wishes from Brasil. Happy new year.

Gotta love how the UV max WR also beats the par time.

Hey Karl, just stopping by in the comments section to wish you all the best, to you, and your family, for 2020. Can't wait to see the content you'll come up with in the future. Cheers from a huge french fan of your ABSOLUTELY LEGENDARY channel.

“You can use any version of doom” quick someone use brutal doom or mod the rng out of the run lmao

6:43 "and the damage inflicted seems to be completely random" That's the funny thing, it is!

“And the damage almost seems completely random” Every gun does, check out Doom’s RNG by decino

I usually don’t participate in any way on your challenges, I’m no speedrunner I just love to watch. But DOOM is my favorite game, and I think this might be the time for me to start actually giving speedrunning a try for myself. Not expecting anything good, but I’ll give it my all!

In case anyone was curious, the piano piece being played is Eternity: Memory of Lightwaves, from Final Fantasy X-2.

I love how you turned and uninformed comment into a proper video explaining how the person was wrong while keeping it informative for everyone. Keep the great work coming Karl.

Man I always get SO excited when he says "(...) this run" 10:01 . You're awesome, I love your videos!

Happy new year, you absolute legends!

Happy new year Karl, hope you're having a good one with the family, here's to 2020 being bigger and better than what was a huge 2019 for you

You heard it here folks, I'm an absolute legend.

Exellent plan. You've successfully got me into speedrunning for the next few weeks! ;)

thank you for the great videos in 2019. you have inspired me to give speedrunning a go. you really are an absolute legend. cheers.

UV Max now we're talking! Someone call Decino! I'm sure he'd love a pre-order of Doom Eternal.

it's kind of blowing my mind that the damage in doom was random all along and I had no idea. I always thought I wasn't lining those imps up well enough with the shotgun when they didn't die.

Something great about Doom videos is that if you have shitty WiFi you can watch the video at low quality and the differences are practically unnoticeable.

wasn't expecting memory of lightwaves. nice touch. made me not skip the ad.

Karl, thanks a bunch for covering UV Max. As a speedrunner of UV Fast, this brings me great joy that others know of the other cool categories of running this game. You're the Legend of Legends.

It may be too random for speed running, but I'll be damned if it isn't still to this day one of the best shotguns to exist across all games.

KARL, it is SO cool that you make your giveaways actually fun and instead of just entering a random drawing, you have them have to complete a challenge and THEN draw between the people who completed it... that's so sick.

Decino did a wonderful video explaining how Doom's pseudo-RNG works, and what calls it. He has a lot of excellent video on Doom in general; definitely recommend checking him out.

I bet one of the preorder copies will go to Zero Master, with 0:27

on the 29th of december, 2019, I achieved this run.

straightforward youtuber with straight facts, love that he sometimes doesn't care what people think about speed running and the fact that he uses his own runs in the video rather than others. Im proud of this and only wish that other youtubers were actually real like him.

I very enjoy your videos. There is something about listening of accemplishements of speedrunning.

The shotgun being inconsistent is the result of dooms engine being run on a random number generator, if you get 120, you will kill absolutely everything in the spread path, if you get a 4, you will barely scratch them. It's such a weird concept

A real record is how decino got a 100 player doom 2 deathmatch, i was there.

I come to this channel just to hear that I'm an absolute legend.

"This was a trick question" but I was thinking of the trick answer all along!

Watching your videos and decino's videos got me really pumped up for my first playthrough of Doom 2016. I feel that I enjoyed it much more because of this

I love that this video even exists. Doom is one of the most influential games ever. 😍 DOOM FOREVER

One of the few channels I subscribe to that I give a like as soon as I open the video because I know the content will be on point and well put together

if getting 100% kills 100% secrets and *100% ITEMS* AND *NIGHTMARE* difficulty that would be the ultimate DOOMGUY challenge cause its somewhat impossible (not really if your really good) to get 100% Items and to get 100% kills on nightmare mode because they all respawn

UV-Max is good for custom wads, especially slaughter maps. It's not really about finely optimized speedrun world record progressions, but showcasing a clean run killing everything on an extremely difficult map with tons of monsters.

I'm just a casual Doom player but I always find these speed runs interesting to watch.

This video is just the tip of the iceberg for why uv-max runs are so difficult. Here are some other reasons why uv-max can be really tough: Wandering enemies: In less linear levels, it is very common for enemies to go away from your path, and so you miss 100% kills. All it takes is one lost enemy to ruin a demo. Routing: Optimizing use of ammo and infighting adds a couple of dimensions to the problem of figuring out the best route. The BFG: You know how a cyberdemon can take five or more BFG shots to kill? Well, optimal BFG usage can kill a cyberdemon in just 2 shots. The spare BFG ammo can be used to kill other enemies quickly. The BFG becomes intuitive once you learn its mechanics, but using it optimally can be very dangerous. With enough practice, you can kill a cyberdemon while doing 2 of the 3 following: Using 2 BFG shots, doing it quickly, or doing it safely. Blockmaps: Due to the way Doom's hit detection works, a large portion of an enemy's hitbox cannot actually be hit sometimes. This is especially noticeable when using a super shotgun against mancubi or arachnotrons in Doom II. I welcome others to discuss additional challenges related to uv-max runs.

I'm a simple man.. I see Karl jobst uploaded and I click.

the dmg done by pretty much everything in this game is in fact extremely random. apart from stuff like spread of the pellets, the dmg that each hit deals can vary wildly purely based on rng

best way to end 2019 is with a Karl Jobst DOOM vid.

Thanks for making these videos. It's nice to see original Doom content and you do an excellent job putting these videos together.

I love coming here and getting called an absolute legend.

Your videos are the best! I get the most hyped when I see you uploaded over all my other channels. Thanks for being an absolute legend!

UV Max is by far my favorite category, the one that I respect the most. However, it works best on really long, really hard levels. Ones where the luck evens out over time. The reason it's so impressive is that the player can't just memorize the run, they have to adapt in real time.

I'm struggling so much to finish my physics PhD project, but your wise words at 5:56 just remembered me what one should never forget.

2020 Resolution....Get this *Absolute Legend* to 1 Mil Subs. I don’t even Speedrun, and now it’s consumed my entire KZfaq life lol

One of the things you need to remember about old games like doom is that the "RNG" is not really random. That's why a demo can play an exact replica of the game. In theory, if you had frame-perfect movement, you could consistently trigger the ideal RNG values. Not that this is really possible for a real speed-run, but a tool-assisted one could definitely do the job.

Nobody: Karl Jobst: I achieved... this run...

This category can go even more crazy! There are variants of instead of one map, a full episode for Doom 1 and a full game for Doom II and Final Doom! There's also another category similar to this one called UV -fast that is exactly the same as UV Max, except you play with the -fast command line parameter that makes monsters a lot more aggressive, makes fireballs twice as fast and makes Demons run twice as fast too, it's extremely insane!

Karl: Hello you absolute LEGENDS Me: Thanks man, I needed that. :)

I was not fooled by your trick question, I knew you were about to say zero as soon as you set up the shot :P Merry new year mate, hope to see much more of you this year as well.

Maybe interesting for someone: the pistol aim is more consistent when you pull the trigger repeatedly instead of shooting semi-automatic (hold the fire button down). I saw that in a KZfaq video. EDIT: Here’s the mentioned video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/adhzh9Ooscq9gXU.html.

Doom weapons have a certain trick to them, the pistol, for example, has a certain trick, where if you press the button after the animation has completely finished you will hit every single shot, and the shotgun just get in there face and it turns them into a mucus

UV-Max is the most common category when it comes to custom doom WADs

It absolutely blows me away that people are still hardcore playing a game that came out when I was a kid. I remember VERY first playing this on my dad's friends computer. Crazy to think that was almost 30 years ago already.

The description says winners will be drawn in 2019 Edit: it's fixed now

I am not sure if this has been mentioned before, but at about the 6:30 mark you mentioned the shotgun is so inconsistent, part of it is indeed the random damage per pellet, however at 6:40 exactly you state you are aiming dead centre, now you actually weren't! There's kind of a bug that (I think!) got fixed in DOOM2, when you move, your weapon sprite bobs around, the moment you start shooting, it will freeze the bobbing position and play the animation from that offset until you stop firing, eventhough the source and destination of the hitscans will still be from the centre of your camera, meaning that in this case, the sprite will look like it's aiming to the right of the screen, eventhough it technically isn't.

7:10 ... i have no idea about Doom and i never played it .... but I was 100% sure the Answer is 0 !

Happy new year you absolute legend.

Ayeee happy new years you absolute legendsss ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

I know this contest is over but I discovered your channel after it was already over. Still, I am currently attempting to get a 35 second run on this stage. Your channel is amazing and has gotten me wanting to speedrun. I'm not a pro gamer nor very skilled. I recently did a build just to game because I was behind times. This is my first attempt at speedrunning ever and have only gotten a 39 second run in about an hour successfully, which I'm a bit proud of. I have also been trying a 16 Star run on SM64 on android. I have completed it but only with horrible times, have not yet managed the controls nor the route fast enough. Also, I believe this route in Doom has way more optimizations, like opening the secret door with the 2 shottys and the one with the exploding barrels at the same time, ignoring the monsters inside the barrel room while you get the last 2 secret rooms, shooting while backing up to the exit the remaining mobs then turning to take care of remaining monster on the trip to the exit...I have performed this but not successfully nor at 100% completion due to always being late for the Imp secret room with the lowering platform on the edge.

28 seconds catching karl uploads speedrun?

I absolutely adore these videos. Really makes my day when I get notified about a new upload. Also, happy new years all my fellow legends!

I just got :038 on my first hour. Never speedrun before. I'm coming for you, Jobby boi

>the shotgun is massively inconsistent. Laughs in gears of war.

Will you ever cover American Dad speedrunning?

This has got the most motivation to keep going then any other Speedrun video I have came across.

Things to learn, here: If speedruns are an estimation of one's skill, then Doom's RNG voids most of that skill in favor of an astronomical lineup of coincidental benefits that cannot consistently be replicated. To that end, I would consider the standard for calling doom speedruns legitimate quite low if not largely fraudulent because of some saintly and quite holy RNG that may not be experienced for a decade or more, that's the sole difference between world record and another failed run, regardless of frame data and literal perfect inputs. At the same time, the only counterargument pertains to a virtue not everyone has equally. Patience. But patience is not a measure of skill or speedrunning virtue, but a measure of one's ability to become virtuous and skillful via learning before flying. But for the early doom games... patience won't make literal perfection an equal to RNG. If perfection exists not in the inputs ultimately, but in lady luck, it's not the player that played flawlessly but the game flawlessly playing the player. I am not patient nor virtuous, for doom, I can be one or the other, but not both. I can come close, but I cannot balance two elements with RNG, worse than the human element.

Karl, your channel and quality in videos have skyrocketed ever since I subbed a while back. I watched back logged videos that were older than my subscription so yeah man..... KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK! You will have 1 mil if you keep at it and upload a few clickbaitey vids/vid thumbnails for the clicks. ;) love you and happy new year!

the shotgun isn't inconsistent, i think you're mistaking the weapon bob for its aim. Always aim center despite weapon bob

I love your catchphrase. On the THIS run was achieved.

I'm not a speedrunner myself (don't have the skill), but I used to watch a LOT of UV-Max runs and I think your criticisms of the category come from approaching it with something of the wrong mindset (and also playing on the wrong level). IMO the real heart of UV-Max isn't on the IWAD levels, but rather on user created maps that are much more challenging from a combat perspective. Both UV-Speed and UV-Max are about movement, but while UV-Speed is about using preplanned and calculated movement to reach the exit, UV-Max is about using movement to control monsters and optimizing battle outcomes. While there is preplanning (what order to take encounters and how to survive the difficult ones), the runner needs to be able to read developing situations in the battle and react accordingly. In long maps with more monsters an individual monster encounter becomes less important. While RNG making an imp take three shotgun shots ruins a run on a map like E1M1 (where you a shooting for sub 1:00), on a map with hundreds of monsters like Deus Vult MAP02 such an event will probably equalize itself later in the run. Basically, UV-Max isn't about maps where you are shooting for sub 0:30, its about the maps where you are trying to get sub 10:00, or even sub 45:00! IMO, E1M1 or any of the IWAD levels are not where to find the interesting UV-Maxes; you need to look at the innumerable user created mapsets to really start to appreciate UV-Max. I would also note the while there is some crossover (especially among the highest skilled players), many good UV-Max players don't run UV-Speed, and vice versa. Anyway, thanks again for all the great content!

'... After killing 3 guys with one shotgun blast, how many do you think I'm going to kill this time? ... zero." I'm going to have to thank Decino's video on Doom RNG for already knowing that. He's got some really interesting stuff on Doom 1&2 for those that haven't seen his stuff.

on the 31st of december, 2019, I posted this comment.

Happy new year to you absolute legends!

i dont even watch speed runs but your enthusiasm for this stuff is infectious

I’ve found with the pistol, a good way of guaranteeing more shots is to tap the trigger rather than hold it down, same with the other guns(not the plasma rifle). Especially the chaingun.

On one of your quake videos earlier I the year there was some guy trying to convince everyone that speed runs took no skill were actually easier. Sometime people just dont get it. Quake runs in particular are some of the most amazing feats of skill ever in speed running.

The pistol is less accurate when you hold the fire button and decino now has a really good video detailing each weapons accuracy and damage rng

What I find pretty interesting is that in almost all competitive sports, the factor luck plays doesn't prevent people from pursuing and enjoying it. It's basically a mathematical absolute that in any competition which is "winner takes all", luck totally dominates skill. This is because there are always competitors who max out what is actually possible without luck playing a significant role, and the one who gets lucky gets pushed just a hair ahead of the others. It doesn't matter how close second place is, the runner-up doesn't get on the box of Wheaties. You can see this in almost all athletic world records. With records like the 100 meter sprint, almost all of them were set with the racer running with the wind at their back. Normally such a small factor would never win you a race... but when times are separated by only hundredths of a second, the luck factor of the wind determines the winner. Despite that, people will still watch footraces and all those sorts of things, I expect just to see expert play on display, even if luck does determine the eventual 'winner'. It's interesting that because speedrunning is mediated by computers, we're much less tolerant of luck just because it's more obvious.

Damn, that run by 4shockblast had so much mob placement luck! Also, at the beginning he has a lucky pistol rng that hits the first mob from behind the column. I think that going up the first couple stairs is important for the dude on the left to see you. There are maybe 1 or 2 places where he could pick up a second or two with better shotty rng, but I doubt the rest of the mobs would line up that perfectly once in a few hundred runs.

I think perhaps a good way to put it is that Goldeneye's gunplay is more consistent and thus lends itself better to speedrunning than Doom 1. Anyways, great video! Always a joy to see you upload!

4:35 LOL Pretty sure it's definitely your first run! Love the vids. Keep it up dude!

I really like this style of video where you analyse a Doom record run and talk us through your process of replicating it. More like this please Karl. :)

Only Karl Jobst puts several days of effort into a a video about a 40 second speedrun, what an absolute legend.