It’s always been an LDS thing. So many branched off cults came from Mormon beliefs. When a church is built around a prophet, other “prophets” feel inclined to start receiving messages too.

@@be.A.b Funny you mentioned it, I felt some messages coming in after reading this comment

@@be.A.bThe book of Mormon is a farce with no historical basis in fact. It is a made up religion and so those people have absolutely no firm foundation of belief. John McArthur calls mormonism the work of satan. Satan is the king of lies after all and weaves his lies with just enough truth

​@be.A.b Excuse me don't you mean when a CULT is formed ?

No, it’s church. Church is the new Antichrist.

This is technically a hostage/kidnapping and the FBI needs to get on this and that devil of a woman.

Julie Rowe is one crazy lady. She is forever talking about all her dreams and visions, just like other cult members. I don't believe any of them have such visions. It is all made up to enrich themselves, by conning others.

Seems she has tainted a lot of lives that have then caused family destruction….. she is certainly a huge, huge, red flag.🚩 I pray that he gets his family back unharmed and this crazy doomsday stuff they realised is just being brainwashed ! So sad, especially dragging the son into it when he wants nothing to do with it 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Ole Junkyard Julie comes up yet again in the brainwashing and manipulation of niave people looking for faith. She needs stopped!!!!!!

Seriously, Julie Roe definitely needs to be interrogated as this is the 2nd. Dooms Day Case with a missing minor and run away parent. I saw her on a show on TV talking about Chad Daybell, and she appeared seriously whacked out back then!

Thank you very much for the update. Heart wrenching listening to this poor father, sending him a big virtual hug

Wonder what happened to the daughter

@@ericabaysinger6343 good question

Thank you

Wow, thanks so much for the update. Thank God for the dad, he was petrified, but trying to be very explicit. ❤

🤯 This history repeating is beyond....

Julie Rowe is going to be put in second place behind Joey Smith but before Bringham Young

Exactly

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You mean cult Leader?

Right?!? COVID is contagious but these toxic ideas are too!! "Beware wolves in sheep's clothing." "But no one knows the day or the hour. No! Not even the angels in heaven know. The Son does not know. Only the Father knows." ....the Bible

And Thom Harrison’s ‘Visions of Glory’ beyond a shadow of doubt.

Agreed.

Is Julie still practicing this doom day stuff?

She is so unstable. I can't believe she is still free to spread her garbage. The LDS needs to take action. Too many members believe in the doomsday nonsense.

Yup. Happened to me.

Exactly 💯💯💯They really need to investigate the lds and the cults

@@rachelcarter5282 LDS needs to step on these end of days survivalist ideas.

@@jeffk464 Kresha from diffiCULT Research is doing a deep dive.. since her uncle and nephew were murdered by the Vallow/ Daybell doomsday gang. Check it out.

@@jeffk464 and book of mormon

Yes very sick people

Hopefully he gets away from that cult. And turns to Jesus Christ. Time is short. Hamas & Iran are in Russian right now. Plotting against Israel, we are heading right into world war 111. And if we don’t repent now and get right with God it might too late.

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

I was a friend of blaze in elementary I’m praying for his safety every hour

My daughter went to Homecoming with Blaze last month. The picture in his suit is of them both. She is shocked and beyond devastated about all of this… We need to all keep praying for his safe return🙏

❤❤

I mean if they read the Bible they'd know their religion is false and blasphemous cause it goes against the teachings of Jesus. People love to cherry pick but no the new testament is to be read and followed in whole.

He's been found safe & they were arrested

What's LDS?

@@aegisreflector1239 a Devil worshipping cult.

​@aegisreflector1239 Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. These folks are members of the church but their doomsday beliefs are not part of the religion, but rather a case of crazy folks embracing their delusions.

I’d get him out of there. His life is in danger.

He looks pretty strong. If he figures it out in time, I think he might be able to take them.

​@@adoseofcarehe's still only 16

Don’t get why the cops won’t help st Boise. Look at Chad and Lori….should be an instant red flag all over again. ! I pray they find his son.

I'm sooo angry !! She should have been locked up too, with Lori and Chad! She is a money hungry , Nut!!

Yes she is a con artist/ cult leader " wannabe" that's even more disgusting!

You are correct, but the doctrine comes from the LDS doctrine, ALL these cults have their roots in the LDS, Julie Rowe, started off LDS, and so did Chad Daybell, it's one after another, the LDS has its roots everywhere, we have just seen the Daybell trial, and Rob Woods name came up several times as he was protecting the LDS by giving out plea deals to protect the Church, when you get comments like that in a major trial, you have to ask the question, just how much sway do the LDS have in bending the law to cover up what is really going on.

Julie Rowe is definitely one Fry short of a McDonald's Happy Meal!

You would think after the whole wacko vallow/daybell crap these people would know they've taken things too far!!!

Who is Julie Rowe?

The church made her.

No, she listens to herself. Julie Rowe is deluded.

@@davidsmnje she is the highest woman official in the mormon church

@@Tom-fo5ceFalse. She was excommunicated years ago.

There's always someone who wants to feel powerful who controls others getting them to conceded, failing to exercise their OWN free will. Or Mormon terminology: they are being acted upon.

Julie Rowe, who I never heard of before these recent cases, keeps coming up as the common denominator. Whatever she's saying must be super convincing to get all these people to go off the dead end.

False religion

This is not religion, they are a cult.

Yes, really worried about the young man’s safety.

This sounds like a dangerous cult than a legitimate religion.

@carriemaurer4363 to be fair, every religious person thinks their religion is the “right” one and all others are false religions.

Yes! If God is returning like all of them claim, then WHY r they running? I'm confused by that part? Do they think they'll be punished?

@call1712, that man is false and has nothing to do with God or Jesus Christ . Now I do believe what the Bible says about when Christ returns but this ain't it. Everyone on earth will see him when he returns. This man is crazy band brain washed these people. They're truly deceive. Believe me you will know if you're alive when it happens. No man knows when. God will say when it time to get his church. He alone knows. Jesus Christ is real but this guy is a nut job.

Thank you to the whole team. My folks used to live in Idaho Falls, I know it's no big city. Being a small town reporter when this news hits is much, much different than in a big city, tho I know it's hard on them too. Your team has had to deal with such horrifying tragedy & has stayed calm, professional & compassionate. You represent the rural West very well, but I am so sorry for you and your region, to have to keep dealing with such terrifying stories. Stay strong, and bless you for doing this hard, underpaid, and exhausting work. People around the world really do count on you. Sending love from Billings ❤

First thing I thought of also. Arizona to Idaho just too weird.

Didn't they hear about Lori Vallow?

They found him🙏

I'll bet that JR was excommunicated a long time ago!!!

And the 8 Passengers, Vallow-Daybell, and so, so many others.

@@karenib1669 That may be….. but they haven’t denounced her, Daybell, Vallow, or Hildebrandt. And they also made Thom Harrison (who Visions of Glory is based on) a Bishop. Make all that make sense!

​@@aromaathomereligions are a farce and are only used to control, manipulate, shame, and instill fear into people

Julie Rowe was excommunicated years ago.

Yes, and maybe his sister, also.

I agree. I’d get him out of there asap.

Thank you for saying this. I’m sorry you experienced that.

My father as well as a doomsday participant. It destroys the family and is difficult to rationalize when they are in this mindset. He did finally come around but truly felt it was for the family. Yet, still believed the end was near. A very tormented soul.

Demonic attacks!! Satan is mocking all of us who love the LORD!! Satan is setting up Christans across our nation to wreck our relationship with CHRIST tormenting us with end times!! FEAR NOT IS IN THE BIBLE HUNDREDS OF TIME stay in the word and walk away from the hysteria!!! Our hearts are with you and your family!! Satan get behind us in the name of Jesus!!

​@ellamaeloftus3493 he needs a mental health facility. Those ideas don't just leave, it's not folie a deux. That is clear DELUSION.

Explain to me what is a doomsdayer? Someone that believes in Revelations?

That is what I thought

Yep, it doesn't look good.

Exactly 💯

Completely brainwashed 😢

I fear for the life of Blaze.

He's been found safe & the mother & whomever else involved arrested

It’s called shock. Also if he has been living with his wife’s slow mental decline it’s like being a frog in a boiling pot. You don’t realize how bad it is until you get out

I agree I’m lds and I don’t believe these crazy ideas wow people are nuts

​@juliaweber212 you probably are a cultist.

It needs to be said that Mormonism has NOTHING to do with Orthodox Christianity. Mormonism is a false religion that was started by occultist freemasons Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. #FREEMASONRY

nobody cares

I agree!! Great job Nate👍 I love this comment bc I also heard the long pauses given by Nate. Other reporters would not allow that “ empty “ space. It gave Ben time to process his feelings and move forward with his next thoughts. Nate, your love and kindness really shines through in the midst of this horrible situation. Thank you 🙏 hope & prayers that All of the return home safe and sound.

Same from North Dakota!

I feel the same way …🇦🇺

Nate is a truly excellent reporter. He does journalism how it's meant to be done.

He's brilliant. I only became aware of him during the Tylee/JJ case. He puts so many journalists to shame.

He's way too calm. I saw nothing that showed he's terrified. He got choked up for a couple (no tears) seconds but yeah no! Maybe he is the master mind. 🤔

Why? He sat there like a pansy and allowed her to just drive away with his minor son!

​@@SiriusSistermaybe he's in shock

​@@elkbowhntrmaybe he's in shock

​@@SiriusSistermaybe he's in shock

This is worst case scenario.

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PRAYING 🙏🏻 FOR YOUR SON SAFETY RETURN.

This is nothing like The biblical rapture. Which no-one knows when the time happens. This is tragic. My heart goes out to him.

And i practiced demonic new age teachings and new age meditation that is the same as yoga and is the teaching of witches. And i saw and heard evil and almost sold my soul to satan when i was 19. Just like many of the dark witch & secret society symbolism and teachings are in games & movies & songs & books etc they are the teachings and symbols of real witches. But also things taken from the things people learned from Meditation teachings. And from seeing and hearing evil for real and from evil lucid vivid dreams satan showed them they saw hypnotic eyes and dark rainbows and dreamt of turning into ravens etc and of levitating and floating these are also all the teachings & symbols of witches and of satan. And i have fought online with hundreds of satan following witches who pretended to be atheist or even catholic etc while they have demonic meditation teachings in their profiles . While these same lying pretenders have pictures of their false gods and goddesses of meditation and gods who are LGBTQ and feminist gods in their pictures and profiles. While these same people have witchcraft stars and egyptian pyramid symbols and one eye symbols or third eye symbols and skull & bone and dark and deathly witch symbols on their social media pages and profiles. The LDS and Mormons are connected to freemason witches their founder was a freemason these are devil worshipers. And yes every satan following witch can call themselves christian or atheist and call themselves God it wasnt christians in waco texas or in james town or as catholic priest doing nasty things to little boys it was satan followers!! And what rules or moral code does a satan follower abide by cant they do or say anything evil or lie about anything food for thought!! The same people in here calling religion crazy and attacking God and christians are devil worshipers pretending to be atheist and they are right on time and on que Just like they all plan and do with these events staged as satan following witches who pretend to be christian in the first place

Please keep this Father in your prayers 🙏🙏🙏

100000000000% What a freeking nightmare AGAIN!!!! Julie Row has hurt & destroyed so many people’s lives, she needs to be locked up, how many more people need to die bc of this cult?!? All these false prophets must be doing something illegal & need to be locked up already!!!!💔

💯 I hear you and I'm with you.

Lori and Chad Daybell,Rube Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt and now this poor man's family.This needs to be investigated by the federal government. LDS Mormans are losing it right now.

No they aren’t. Just these crazy people. I am a LDS mormon and don’t believe these crazy things. It’s cultish.

This sounds like the Daybell stuff. Its apparently pretty common among rural Idaho Mormons, sounds kind of strange coming from Arizona.

Visions of Glory. There is a connection with Jodi H, Tim Ballard, Chad and Lori Daybell, Julie Rowe etc.

Visions of effing Glory and Julie Rowe man. The connections cannot be ignored.

​@@merricat3025They are all fueled by demonic forces set forth by Satan who is gathering as many souls as possible before the Lord arrives this time not to save the world, but He is coming in judgment! Will you be ready to meet Him? Don't be fooled by these false prophets, their visions or dreams. That is a dangerous thing that people who don't know His word, can easily be tricked into believing a lie that will have the most grave consequences of being separated from Him for all eternity. You can easily check their lies by praying and reading His word and cultivating a relationship with Him. The Holy Spirit will then give you the gift of discernment to know when you are being deceived. God loves us so much that He allows us to make our own choices whether to love Him or not. But, even though you may not really know Him and don't have any relationship with Him so far, He is still waiting for you even though this world is spinning out of control faster now. He is still waiting on souls that are still out there because He loves you so much! There is no greater gift of love than what Jesus did for us by giving His life to pay IN full for our sin debt so that no believer will suffer the consequences of sin which is to be turned away from Heaven because God is so pure that He can't be around sin. He made a way for us to be with Him. It is your choice. I am praying that someone tonight may see this and turn your life around by praying and asking for His forgiveness of your sins, repent and turn away from sin. It is your choice and as Matthew 24:36 says, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Keep your head on a swivel, my man, and stay STRONG 💪 ❤️ STAY SAFE AND TRUST NOOOO ONE CUZ YOU NEVER KNOW WHO IS AFFILIATED WITH THIS CULT AND FR WHAT I CAN SEE FROM SO MANY CASES OUT OF IDAHO AND THEY ALL ARE ROTTEN (ones I've seen)AND REAK OF CORRUPTION. &COVER SHIT UP !!!! Perhaps their using some MK Ultra shit and their controlling him ???? 🤔 that shit is very real 💯

“Prayers” got them into this 😂

They speak out about it ALL THE TIME. 😢 I think fear mongering of political groups and conspiracy theorists on the internet are tricking a lot of people.

I have heard them say things in general conference against the energy healings and extremism. But they should probably release an official statement naming some of these specific groups and books. I mean it’s kind of dumb because if you are Mormon you know that the practices and beliefs of these groups do not align with the church doctrine, but there’s a lot of active members who somehow go to church but believe in this stuff as well so i agree 100% they need to call it out. Especially since some of their stakes and wards were referring members to Jodi Hildebrandt for counseling.

Mormons in these sects are going off the deep end. The church says nothing. They need to DENOUNCE these books and something needs to happen to the leaders of these fringe groups. Why are these Mormons not finding fulfilling enough lives to where they need to follow these dooms day preppers. Why are there so many stories of Mormons killing their husbands, wives and children? This is not doctrine that they are following. I am not Mormon but with all the tragedies coming from this church it would have me raising eyebrows if I were a part of it . This is so sad. I hope his son is returned safe to him. Prayers for this father and his family.

It's fine if people want to take a deep dive into "The End Times". But they really need to leave their kids out of the whole scenario. They can drop the kids off at a relative's house and then go on their Big Adventure. In the immortal words of Paul Simon; "Just slip out the back Jack". But leave the children out of all your plans and calculations. Simply remove your adult selves from everyone else's reality and go live in your own world. You husbands and wives of those spouses with the urge for "The End Times" and who invest all of their free time, social life, money and preparation for something that you don't believe in: Let those people go. Don't fool yourselves into believing that your adult partner will "grow" out of it or change their mind or that they'll allow the kids to stay with you, or that they won't do their best to remove any "obstacles"-- by any means they believe to be necessary--that may lie between them and their desire for the Apocalypse. Your loved one is a fanatic, and fanatics are likely to do anything to achieve their goals. Anything. It's not a joke.

Root of the problem would be the Luciferian Cult ALL these stories have in COMMON. You don't hear of 7th Day Adventist having problems like killing their kids, abusing them like that lady just got arrested in Utah, child molestations, rape, adultery, shady business dealings money laundering Tithe $. It's not like just one person can be blamed for this all, like "just a bad apple". Was it Julie Rowe? Or does it go back to Joseph Smith's fault for starting the Cult? Or is it Lucifer's fault for leading Joey Smith astray? Or was it the Masonic influence's fault?

Its also good that he is in his rebellious teens period AND a football player.

He is safe! See above. Adults arrested. 🙌🏼

...Plus, Spring and Brook (let me guess, they have sibling named River, Sky, Forrest, etc) have been charged and arrested for felony conspiracy to commit custodial interference, and custodial interference. Hopefully Father gets full custody of Blaze and can legally keep him away from that crazy family.

Send link for proof

@@PuddinTane270proof? You could just ask for it without being nasty

What about Abby? Is he back in AZ?

that and years of mormon brainwashing that led them down the path to doomsdaying

Thank you for the update!!

Ma'am this isn't Jenny Apple's channel.

NATE - Can you get this into mainstream?? The world needs to be watching for these individuals. Devastating! Also the vehicle bc that would be very noticeable!!

Far from denouncing it, they are in the process of making it part of official LDS scripture as we speak!

That is absolutely not true. They read a warning about this and other books like it from the pulpit regularly!!! It goes completely against church doctrine in every way.

@@AntNoAngle And even worse, he spells his name with an H in it !

@@AntNoAngle You are RIGHT!

@@tiffanythornock8159 I can picture the mormon services like a Star Trek episode where the head computer voice tells all the crowd who are dressed in identical white robes "you can read this, but do not read this other thing. And whatever you do, do not go on the internet and read about Jos Smith. We are protecting you. Oh, and we are not a cult...."

Amen I cannot agree more as fear is not of God we only need to hold onto God's word

That last statement needs to be heard. Put faith in the Lord. It is his fight.

Fear and ego: MY son is the anointed one! MY dreams and visions! Etc. Julie Rowe and Thom Harrison are indirectly responsible for a LOT of pain and suffering.

They are putting 'faith' above rationality and reality. Religion is the cause for this nonsense. Religious imaginations and grown-up fairy tales need to stop being acceptable in today's world. Its archaic, misogynistic, and an impetus for child @buse, war, and genocide.

Are they Mormons? Or something similar?

Amen

God REALLY should've stepped in before he was kidnapped, but God just watches it all happen. Then you cry to him to fix it.

@@tabora_ Literally asking God to stop Revelations. SMH.

Praying in agreement!!

Why? What’s that gonna do? that’s what caused all this a delusional extreme belief in god. Duh!

God demands a virgin sacrifice. Boy are they gonna be surprised.

Sometimes it does feel like the end of the world. When covid hit I was like hmm maybe Chad is onto something. 😵‍💫 shoot imma end up inna cult...! 😅

It's called religion.

@@prezadent1 Yup lol. Hilarious seeing all these comments stating how these people are crazy, then they go on to explain the how the rapture ACTUALLY works hahahaha

​@@MemoryLeak1124They are crazy because they are trying to put themselves in God's shoes and they don't have that power whatsoever 🙄. The problem is..people don't know what it says in the Holy Bible...that's why they are being led astray. Whether you believe in end times or not...these people are doing and saying things that are nowhere in the playbook they claim to follow. Be well and be at peace.

100% This sounds exactly familiar.

@@prezadent1He might have. He was utter patriarch in his home.

Please ease up on this man. He is going through a horrendous experience I would not wish on anyone. He does not want to antagonize his wife or brother in law too much. He is very tired, in shock, and very afraid. He is a fellow human. ✌️♥️

​@@justkiddin84 thank you for standing up for this poor man I don't understand why they are judging him. He is heartbroken and torn up. He did what he should by immediately getting sole custody of his son and went to the police to report him missing and has gone to Idaho to try to find his son. He didn't support his wife in her way of thinking and because of that they were separated. He had no way of knowing she would go to this extreme to take his son and leave. He is doing the best he can under the circumstances. I pray they find his son and he is safe

His wife took the kid the same day he got full custody-this was an abduction!