If you edit the video so the music part is muted and reupload it should work fine KZfaq's copyright protection for music is just broken like that, not smart enough to depict music and voices

Please do more Rick and Morty, your reaction to the first episode was great and it's only gets better

In Ukraine, the mortality rate among these brave people increased from 3.5 to 17.5 deaths per 1000 people from 1988 to 2012. Disability among liquidators has also increased. In 1988, 68% of them were considered healthy, and after 26 years, only 5.5% were still healthy. It was reported that the majority - 63% - suffered from cardiovascular diseases, 13% had problems with the nervous system. In Belarus, 40,049 liquidators with cancer were registered by 2008, another 2,833 from Russia.

*No worries(: and btw she had her son with a friend of her and her husband because she wanted and needed it and he could give her that but they remained friends and she moved out to the countryside because she got tired of all the attention from this, she just wants to be left in peace*

And I lived in a country nearby until 1990 and grew up taking iodine pills... my friend’s brother was born blind but healthy otherwise thank God...

that's not fun.. that's depressing

Brilliant though

Thats crazy

"The pipes will be jumping..."

Not all the music, but sounds and effects were recorded from the decommissioned plant. The alarms were activated in test mode and recorded to use as the alarm sound effects.

In Legasov's own word he thought it was more about the system failure (staffs and designs) and structure issue of the (Soviet) nuclear industry at the time, its ambitions and finally the economic cost. Below are the original words transcribed and translated near the end of his memoir recordings. "And here the fateful mistake was made, from which, specifically, Chernobyl began. What was this fateful mistake? The world accepts the normal standard of safety for any dangerous industry including nuclear power stations. This standard consists of three elements. One, make the reactor maximally reliable. Two, make the operation maximally reliable; trained staff, good discipline, easy-to-operate equipment, etc. And strive for maximum reliability everywhere. But, since the world understands that “maximally” does not mean 100 percent and that there is always a chance of a technical component failing, even the most reliable one, or of a person doing something, by malice or ignorance or by accident, the third element is introduced. Three, all this dangerous industry with a maximally safe reactor, maximally safe operation, must compulsorily be encapsulated; enclosed in a containment as it is called in the West, placed under a cupola as we call it. So, if something, having a low probability but still, suddenly happens, it will remain limited to the area of the reactor itself. All the troubles will be restricted to the area. And the main criminals... Of course. those who have already been convicted at Chernobyl are criminals because they committed unthinkable actions and they were convicted absolutely legally. Now the investigation, additional investigation is underway and, I think, will probably judge the designers of the RBMK reactor-at least they should be judged in my opinion-who made at least three grave mistakes in the design of this reactor. Grave mistakes. And perhaps they should bear criminal responsibility for it. This is my point of view but I don’t know how this will turn out. But the main criminals are those leaders of energy in the 60s who despite the opinion of experts, and Soviet experts … Say, at our institute, there is corresponding member Sidorenko Viktor Alekseyevich; he is now the Deputy Chairman of Gosatomenergonadzor. He wrote a doctoral dissertation and later published a book at approximately that time, in which he proved the impossibility of having nuclear stations without containments, no matter the type, VVER or RBMK; that it was dangerous and criminal. But, as they say, they spat on him from the big bell tower [a Russian proverb that means to not care] because this made each station approximately 25-30 percent more expensive. And since Gosplan strictly specified the funding for nuclear energy, this would mean 20-30 percent fewer nuclear power plants would be built in a given time. "

@@countingtls Very interesting! Thanks for posting.

@@countingtls Thanks. Can I steal this?

@@shinHis3 You can find the online translated version here, it is now translated to tape 5-a legasovtapetranslation.blogspot.com/ The transcribed version with the original Russian can be found here if you can read Russian or want to help with the translation pseudology.org/razbory/Legasov/00.htm You can find pieced together recording, someone made one on youtube, from various documentaries and sources, I haven't found the complete sources with all the contents yet, from the Russian transcriptions it looks like some parts are already missing at the time of the transcriptions. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p91_o7h4zK7UqZc.html

They actually showed a catastrophic steam rupture, the reactor did not explode due to fission, so no. Not a Nuclear bomb. Just a massively overpressured Reactor Vessel and an ensuing fire.

@hammertapping Which part is lies? Can't show = you're the one doing the propaganda mate... I tend to err against the USSR because there was no free press in USSR. It makes sense. If this happened in the US you would've heard about it real quick. I mean they even report on nothingburgers and claim news now. Free press has its drawbacks, but it's still better than state-controlled press for this reason - real news competing with fake news is better than news only on things the state allows. Conflicting information > no information.

@hammertapping I just skimmed through customer reviews of Midnight in Chernobyl and they contradict what you say. I'd rather trust multiple public reviews from people who have no reason to be lying over you. Here's one quote. "Secrecy and falsehoods by the USSR are evident throughout the account." There are many more like that throughout the reviews. It really looks like you're honoring the USSR's tradition of secrecy and falsehood.

@hammertapping I deleted my previous reply because I only saw the first paragraph when I responded to you in that reply. (I didn't click read more). I'm reading your full comment now.

Why else do you think I go to the reviews for? I've got no time to read a book just to answer a question that's why. Geez. Wtf you mean I sink so low? I don't have time to read a book I'm gonna look at the synopsis or reviews of it. What's the false overarching narrative if it wasn't that the USSR was a state full of secrets and falsehoods then? Wasn't that what you're complaining about? You keep throwing around "false overarching narrative" and keep defending "the state", yet you're not saying they're not full of secrets and falsehoods? Just answer this simple question to get started: what's the propagandist lie?

@hammertapping "False overarching narrative" is *not* the same as "false details". You can have different details and still have the same overarching narrative. The narrative of the show is "the cover-up/lies of the state allowed/indirectly caused the tragedy of Chernobyl". Tell me how that is wrong. Is it only corrupt/incompetent individuals and not the state that is to blame? Because these reviews I keep reading tell me otherwise. Tell me they're lying. 1. "The story also tells us something about how politicians and officials [of the USSR] struggled to manage - even deny - the truth, but the scale of the disaster escaped them." 2. "...he [the author] described the inhumane nature of the soviet regime," 3. It's also a crushing condemnation of the Soviet State, and Russian culture as a whole. 4. A case study in institutional rot, human heroism, and the failure of the Soviet system. The narrative is similar to the series. If you don't understand the difference between *big picture (narrative)* vs *small picture (details),* I don't know what else to say. If that many reviews say similar things, you'd think they're correct no? But of course not. Those people don't know how to read. Only Mr. hammertapping knows what the book's narrative is really about. Tell me you didn't understand what narrative means.

Couldn't agree more!

Where can I listen to this podcast?

@@laurenwoods4199 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qLuVe7N0vtq7iYU.html

@@baynenothos Thank you!

It would be nice to know where!

@@jazzycat8917 Well that may well be, however I suggest anyone interested in the subject read the excellent Midnight in Chernobyl: the untold story of the worlds greatest nuclear disaster. There is an entire chapter devoted to him. Interviews with former staff from Chernobyl as well as others that knew him. No one will know for certain as the man is dead. I certainly am not making excuses for his actions just trying to add some perceptive. Few people are one dimensional villains per say.

@@deanhibler3117 fantastic book. I think it's an important companion piece to the show, and have been recommending it to anyone who enjoyed the show.

@ThatAudssieGirl relax, just because it wasn't mentioned on the show doesn't mean that it wasn't true. It's a very plausible theory given what the atom did to his family

Based on all that I've read and watched, Dean is correct - Dyatlov wasn't a psychopath like portrayed in the series (and all mainstream accounts). He was a strict supervisor, but he was professional and knew what he was doing. The disaster came as a complete surprise for him and everybody else present there. Right from that moment he and others got to work to minimise any further fires and explosions. The blame lies with the reactor design, not the operators or Dyatlov.

"Dyatlov was actually a very smart man." "Chernobyl was not Dyatlov's first nuclear disaster, he had actually been in another one years earlier" *So he fucked up twice - what a very smart man indeed! LMFAO*

Exactly the same down here in Greece. These restrictions lasted one year. I was in primary school back then

Still to this day hunters in Sweden, in areas affected the most by fall-out, have to carry Geiger counters to check the radiation levels of the animals they fell to make sure it is safe. A lot of animals they fell, especially wild boars, have radiation levels 10-20 times the "safe" limit and the bodies have to be destroyed. As a teen when this happened I lived in the northern part of Sweden. I used to make a fair bit of money foraging for wild blueberries, lingonberries, cloudberries, chanterells, porcini, etc and selling to producers. After the fact we were forbidden to do so. I guess a little late for me, I've fought off cancer twice in my life, so far :/

The same applies to areas in the UK still

@@TheSmittenman seriously?! Where?

Your English is very good; much better than my German.

@@DubBossman1 Means, this isn't some horror series of zombies or mutants to spook anyone, but, the true horrors of what actually happened and the frightening situation of revealing the truth of the Boron rods with graphite tips.

@@KiranAlokkan I get that, but it seems like he's trying to say that films with mutants etc are bad

it is a great dramatization, but if you know a good deal about nuclear physics, you'd know that the events of Chernobyl could in no way lead to a nuclear explosion. That part is over hyped for the purposes of drama, and making it seem that this event could have wiped out half of Europe if it was not dealt with quickly and that's simply not true.

@@nathanofthefranks2955 well, yes, it was thermal explosion.

Managers. The worst monsters in this world.

It was sung by the Ukrainian choir "Homin".

Russian? You could feel at least drop of interest and try to find it. I'm just so anoyed, that people don't even know about existance of my country. That gives Russia such great opportunity to steal everything from us, because of the stupidness of the people. Forget about Russia, there's Ukraine

Shes also oscar nominated for the incredible film score for joker

*DWN KAOMWN* Mikhail Gorbachev said some time in the mid 90s after it fell that he believed that Chernobyl was the start of the fall of the soviet union

I know for sure that in 86-87, at the outskirts of the USSR, they already said that "everything will end soon." At the same time, the local KGB knew it). I think he meant that Legasov simply would not live to see when he could speak.

@@mrgoob76 In fact in one interview he also said the cost of cleaning up and building the sarcophagus pretty much bankrupted the USSR. They didn't worry about money during the event, they just wrote IOUs to everyone they "borrowed" materials and machinery from. Then when the price tag came in it was almost more than the nation was worth. After that the fall of the USSR was a sealed fate.

​@@mrgoob76 Gorbachev demanded that Chernobyl was fixed as a pragmatic and *moral* imperative. Combine that with Perestroika, he tried to make a Good Soviet Union. Problem is, a Good Soviet Union is morally obligated to disband itself for what Stalin and his succesors did.

The reason they were running the tests was because the Soviet Union was extremely worried about the vulnerability of the reactors if their power plants were attacked in a way that stopped the water pumps. Incidents at other nuclear power plants around the world, terrorist attacks and a pervading paranoia that the USA was intent on attacking them drove them to try and find a solution that would allow the turbine to generate enough electricity to temporarily drive the water pumps if an attack on Chernobyl itself or the conventional plant supplying them, resulted in an instant power cut. That's why in the initial stages they show someone sitting in his office believing that the Americans had bombed them. I've seen the actual man being interviewed. He had seen the corridor with wall bowed in that is depicted in the show. What the show doesn't mention is that the wall was 1m thick concrete. He assumed that the only thing that could blow that wall inwards was an American bombing raid. That was his first thought, not that there had been an accident but that they had been attacked. There were incentives being offered to complete the tests, but it was the Soviet Union, the men would have known that protracted failure would have landed them in serious trouble. Dyatlov was already facing disciplinary issues about his behaviour, and had been heavily investigated in a previous incident working on military nuclear powerplants. Add together the death of his son, the damage previous irradiation had done to his health, the strain of being the target of military investigation and being tasked with making the turbine solution work by an authoritarian regime that saw failure as potential sign of dissension and it's perhaps not a surprise that they guy was known for losing his temper. Like most things in the Soviet Union, the most powerful driving force was probably fear rather than greed.

That's what the show wants you to believe. The reason why they are running these tests, was the government wants to make sure the plant can stand bombing in an air assault (Israel bombed a plant in Iran just a few years before Chernobyl). The show, while having terrific production value and overall well executed, is far from a documentary and shouldn't be treated as such.

@@XiyuYang The npp that bombed by Israel was not in Iran. It was in Iraq. Osiraq reactor. Go check it out "Operation Opera".

To be honest, if I was an expert and me and every other expert I know would conclude that the emergency stop would always cause a safe stop then I would probably take more risks, too.

Thank you so much for watching this series with us!

Thanks! It was tough at times but overall we are so glad we watched it! So amazing.

So what propaganda are you talking about? What is the truth? What really happened at Chernobyl?

@hammertapping Same. I liked the show also but best to remember it's a show made for entertainment purposes and it's not something to be taken as a 100% accurate documentary (although many will). For example Dyatlov wasn't a know it all psychopath as portrayed in the show.

Nah, I believe it was Dyatlov and another his duplicate account

It was meant as a joke lol, but sure I appreciate your views and opinions on the subject. I accept the show is made for entertainment purposes - I do think it raises awareness to the event.

No they are not. We are not monitoring these comments at all. Go about your business.

Thank you so much!

@hammertapping okay Putin

Chernobyl 1986 Deaths Aleksandr Akimov - Unit 4 Shift Leader Yuri Y. Badaev - SKALA Operator Anatoly I. Baranov - Electrical Engineer Nikolai S. Bondarenko - Oxygen,Nitrogen Supplier Vitaly I. Borets - Block Shift Leader Vyacheslav S. Brazhnik - Senior Turbine Operator Viktor Bryukhanov - Plant Director Vladimir A. Chugunov - Deputy Director Razim I. Davletbayev - Deputy Head Of Reactor 4 Viktor M. Degtyarenko - Operator G. A. Dik - Operator M. A. Elshin - Thermo Operator Nikolai M. Fomin - Chief Engineer Sergei N. Gazin - Turbo Generator Engineer Mihail Golovnenko - Firefighter Vasily I. Ignatenko - Firefighter Yakaterina A. Ivanenko - Police Guard Aleksander A. Kavunets - Turbine Repair Chief Grigori M. Khmel - Firefighter Valery I. Khodemchuk - Main Pumps Viktor M. Kibenok - Firefighter Igor Kirschenbaum - Turbine Operator Yuri I. Konoval - Electrician A. P. Kovalenko - Reactor 4 Supervisor Aleksandr H. Kudryavtsev - SIUR Trainee A. A. Kukhar - Chief of Electrical Lab Anatoly K. Kurguz - Operator Nikolai G. Kuryavchenko - SKALA Computer Operator Aleksandr G. Lelechenko - Deputy Chief of Electrical Shop Viktor I. Lopatyuk - Electrician Klavdia I. Luzganova - Police Guard G. V. Lysyuk - Electrician Engineer Gennady P. Metlenko - Senior Electrical Engineer Aleksandr A. Nekhaev - Diver to open valves Oleksandr V. Novyk - Turbine Inspector Ivan L. Orlov - Physicist Kostyantyn H. Perchuk - Turbine Operator Valery I. Perevozchenko - Foreman Aleksandr Petrovsky - Firefighter Georgi I. Popov - Vibration Specialist Vladimir Pravik - Firefighter V. A. Prishchepa - Firefighter Viktor V. Proskuryakov - SUIR Trainee Boris V. Rogozhkin - Block Shift Leader Aleksei V. Rysin - Turbine Operator Volodomyr I. Savenkov - Vibration Specialist Anatoly I. Shapovalov - Electrician Vladimir N. Shashenok - Auto Systems Adjuster Anatoly V. Shlelyayn - SKALA Computer Operator Anatoly A. Sitnikov - Deputy Chief Engineer Viktor G. Smagin - Shift Foreman Boris Stolyarchuk - Senior Control Engineer Leonid Telyatnikov - Firefighter Volodymyr I. Tishchura - Firefighter Nikolai I. Titenok - Firefighter Petr Tolstiakov - Firefighter Leonid F. Toptunov - SIUR Senior Engineer Yuri Tregub - Shift Leader Arkady G. Uskov - Reactor Operator Mykola V. Vashchuk - Firefighter V. F. Verkhovod - SKALA Computer Operator Yuri A. Vershynin - Turbine Inspector Aleksandr Yuvchenko - Senior Mechanic

I'm 39. I was in Kindergarten when it happened. I live in Europe, and I remember not being allowed to play outside, especially not when it rained.

Der Red - All of this! I’m your age, and agree that while we didn’t have a variety of 24/7 news for instant information, this was HUGE. The first few times I saw KZfaq reactions to this series, I was stunned because the people immediately said they’ve heard the word Chernobyl and knew it had something to do with radiation - but that’s all. They were always quite young, so I assume they don’t teach about it in school, at least in the US? Wow. (I was grateful when this couple began the series and she said she had previously studied the events on her own!) I’m a history geek, so my 12 year old knows about it. I’m glad I made sure she learns about important events. By the way, she was born the exact year you mentioned and I can confirm that 9/11 is ancient to them. When she was in 5th grade, they had an assignment to interview someone who was alive when 9/11 happened (and old enough to fully remember the events and aftermath). I made sure she interviewed me, especially after hearing the way it’s taught (or should I say the version they’re taught; we’re in the south, after all...).

Der Red - Forgot to mention that I grew up in Pennsylvania, near Three Mile Island. My mother had our bags packed and in the car, waiting for the word to leave from my dad (who was a policeman). Also wanted to say (this part is regarding 9/11) that shockingly, a close friend of mine who is 30 was completely unaware of many details. Her reason was that she was a young teen at the time 😳.

Yep and they had a statue of him put up in his honor.

or fringe. . he's amazing in fringe too

The Terror is where he shines though, he only has small parts in The Expanse and Fringe but he's the protagonist in the first series of The Terror.

yep, and mad men to. its funny, that his character died the same way twice^^

Paul Ritter the guy who plays dyatlov is actually known as a comedy actor in the U.K. would you believe 😂

Interesting!

I also understand that many actually kept some of the pets and renamed some of them "atom" or "roentgen".

how do you run out of bullets? it wasn't 17th century... it's easy to make more

They decided right.

@@maujo2009 i would, but id be arrested once they noticed my suspiciously bulging bag, coat, trousers, hat, and socks.

@@azazello1784 In time for their immediate use in the Chernobyl sector? I don't think you understand the difficulties immense short-term demands create for logistical systems. 1 bullet is easy to make quickly; enough for an army of 750 000? Not so much.

Woah.

Jag bor i Gävleborg där det slog ner som mest. Många spekulanter anser att antalet cancerfall här kan kopplas till Tjernobyl, vilket jag tror är väldigt troligt. Roligt att se fler svenskar här!

Thank you so much!

That would be wild to see it in person!

@@DosCavazos It's very interesting. If you go, the food in the cafeteria is terrible.

The interesting thing is that 9 RBMK- reactors are still alive. The last one will be shut down in the year 2050.

The Ignalina RBMKs were even more powerful than the Chernobyl RBMKs. They could produce 1500 MW of electricity, those in Chernobyl 1000 MW. The Ignalina reactors were closed under pressure from the EU because Lithuania wanted to join the EU. They were as safe as an RBMK can be, with lots of improvements made. They had a lot of life left in them when they were closed so callously. Lithuania went from completely energy Independend to having to import expensive energy from elsewhere.

Don’t let the brits lecture y’all on the shame y’all both deserve for not honoring y’all’s heroes. The brits chemically castrated alan Turing so they have zero moral high ground

InDebt8 haven’t found a reaction to this show yet that immediately understood the kgb or how someone who obtains total control who originated from that environment? Yeeesus christ.

My understanding is that Dyatlov changed the parameters of the test, instructing the operators to lower power to 500 MW instead of the 700 minimum mandated, and that restarting the reactor after the stall should have been done very, very slowly, over several days. If this is correct, then Dyatlov certainly did break the rules. Of course he had no idea that it could result in an explosion, but still.

It's especially interesting that many reactors gasp when the power output is going down, which wasn't the problem at all.

Oh hell yeah. Haunting of Hill House. I hope they haven't watched it already. One of the best series I've seen in my 46 years.

David MacDowell Blue - Another vote for The Haunting of Hill House if they haven’t seen it. I can’t express how much I love it. For anyone who hasn’t watched it because they don’t like horror, let me say that it’s quite different; more like an emotional, intense drama about family that happens to involve a ghost story. Hard to describe. Much more emotional than scary imo.