Dosing All for Reef in a Pico and the results

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Dosing All for Reef in a Pico and the results

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3 жыл бұрын

Over the last few weeks, Alkalinity in the pico has been 6.5 dkh, a little too low for my liking and corals were not looking good. After looking around, I found All for Reef by Tropic Marine and I started using a diluted amount in the pico reef. It was recommended that 0.5ml of All for Reef should be dosed per day, I diluted this with RODI water at a ratio of 0.5ml of all for reef to 4ml of Rodi water, giving me 2ml of solution per dose.
After 4 days, Alkalinity seems to be ok and between 7 and 8 dkh with 10% water changes. Maybe a little OTT but I had everything spare to set up a single channel WIFI doser to deliver 2 ml a day.
Water changes were not delivering the results I wanted.
With such sensitive small volume of water, what benefits can there be? Well, this is the first video of my exploits so keep following for updates.
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@jbreefer148 2 жыл бұрын

Your pico tank looks great!!!👍❤️

@hcaquaticsreefing 2 жыл бұрын

@John Jr's Natural Seawater Aquarium, thanks 😊

@Tetrastuctural_Intelligence 3 жыл бұрын

Killer tanks man and great job on the video! I might give All for Reef a try in the future on my 4g pico but I'll be starting with a dripping a low saturation of Kalk first along with doing regular water changes.

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

@Daniel St-Jean amazing just be careful if you are diluting it as they said its not recommend but I haven't seen any ill effects in my pico.....so far lol.

@serieuxster 3 жыл бұрын

Tank looks great 👍🏽

@usmc187 7 күн бұрын

Nice doser setup...

@hcaquaticsreefing 7 күн бұрын

Thank you 😊

@adnailsupply Жыл бұрын

Ty! Never thought about using tongs for flakes! No more wet fingers!😂

@hcaquaticsreefing Жыл бұрын

😆 🤣

@Onearmwampa 5 ай бұрын

Nice video mate, gonna give it a go in my waterbox 10g

@hcaquaticsreefing 5 ай бұрын

😊 👍

@ogreefandaquariums411 2 жыл бұрын

good stuff

@hcaquaticsreefing 2 жыл бұрын

OG Reef and Aquariums, thanks 😊

@mikkostenberg1740 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the informative vid! The one way valve on the Voss bottle looks to be the wrong way up. 🤔

@hcaquaticsreefing 2 жыл бұрын

@Mikko Stenberg, ahh thanks 😊. Its not a necessity for the bottle tbh, I just complicated it 😅 🙃. Happy reefing

@Orybailey 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah brother!!! I have the same little pico tank I started a month ago! I’m so excited. Your tank looks amazing. Can you show the build for the doser?

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

@Ory Bailey thank you. Awesome 👌. How are you finding it looking aftera pico? 😀..nice little tanks aren't they?

@Orybailey 3 жыл бұрын

I’m in the military so I had to leave it for a month. I bought a auto top of which kept it stable. I came back though had a little hair algae because the guy that helped feed it was afraid to do the water changes. It’s ok though I came back did a 100% water change which was easy and I will keep doing it for a bit to bring phosphates down but over all I do the same things you do and dose all for reef. I had some of my zoas multiply and my green star polyp is glued to the back of the tank as well. Can’t wait for it to spread!!!

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

Ahh nice, great stuff being in the military. Great idea with the ATO btw, life saver. I do mine manually with marks on the back chamber. Someone suggested 20% waterchanges to avoid shock to the system. Started doing them weekly but its what works for your style of reefing. All for Reef seems to be the lick for the pico, easy to dose and corals seem to benefit. Waterchanges will help with iodine levels too. Oh snap, got some zoas today and yeah when the GSP spreads i think makes a tank look cool with all the movement 😎.

@g-reef 3 жыл бұрын

Love the video and tips, thank you, I do have a question regarding dosing. I have a 10 gallon mix reef, I have been manually dosing and want to dose with a doser, i test and my ALK 7.2 , CA 450 and MG 1250. I would like to maintain an ALK of 8.2 , how do I calculate how much to dose daily. Sorry for the long comment

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

Hi @G-Reef how much are you dosing manually? The way I understood it is, if you increase your dosing everything increases. TM sell other specific products to target Alkalinity. This is the dosing calculator I used, hope this helps 😊 www.tropic-marin-smartinfo.com/en/minerals/all-for-reef.html

@g-reef 3 жыл бұрын

@@hcaquaticsreefing I use BRS calculator from 7.2 to 8.2 I dose 14.2 ml, then I wait 24 hours and test, then every 3 days I test , I can’t do this this way anymore, stability is not met. Struggling with this , thank you for your help

@angelnieves6087 9 ай бұрын

How did you setup that Voss bottle as a vessel for siding. Can you please do a video on that? Thanks and great video on AFR

@hcaquaticsreefing 9 ай бұрын

@angelnieves6087. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNFioKyDkprad40.htmlsi=PwtgzPunvVweRMkT

@g-reef 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see the DIY voss dosing bottle

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

Hi G-REEF, Next video I will include a shot of it. Its tucked away out of sight along with the Doser itself 😊. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNFioKyDkprad40.html

@jules2545 3 жыл бұрын

Nice little tank, where do you get your plastic clips that hold the tank lid in place please?

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jules, thank you for subscribing. The clips came with the tank👍

@jules2545 3 жыл бұрын

@@hcaquaticsreefing Thanks for the reply. I look forward to seeing more videos.

@BaileyBlacks 3 жыл бұрын

Another amazing video, question how did you make that voss bottle? Did you do this yourself?

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I constructed it with a few cheap and simple parts. I will make a little video on it

@hoavo5576 3 жыл бұрын

i saw ur tank in fb, that aswoame

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

@HIK VÔ thank you. And welcome to the channel

@l33sno 3 жыл бұрын

Is your one way valve on top of the bottle installed the correct way, as you need air to enter as you use the liquid.

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

Hi llano, yeah. Since making the video i have tried checked and all seems to be dandy with bottle. 😃, been checking just to make sure as in the past...I got it wrong and wondered what was happening 😅.

@travelwithme7133 3 жыл бұрын

Hey great video. Does the product actually raise parameters or just keep it stable. The lady at the shop said whatever my prams are now will stay the same when using this. U was hoping it would raise my prams a little

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

@Travel With Me. From what i have noticed, it did raise my Dkh especially, and mag and calcium did get a boost. The size of tank and testing will generally tell you how much you will need to dose daily to keep you tank stable. This is a tiny tank and i am between 9.2 to 9.7 dkh when i tested on yesterday. 👍

@travelwithme7133 3 жыл бұрын

@@hcaquaticsreefing Thanks buddy. My dkh is sitting at 7. Cal is 410 and mag is 1260. I was thinking I might have to dose to get the prams correct and then use this product after to maintain. But now that I know it raises them I might just start using this instead. Really appreciate your reply. Top man!

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

@Travel With Me, no problem. Those results are actually alright maybe Mag closer to 1300s but if the corals are doing well and you're stable, that's great. When you start dosing where ever you're aiming for give yourself leeway either side of that number. Say 10 either side for a decent range. Check out this video on chasing numbers. Except for Alkalinity i would say 0.5 dkh swing max kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mcqclbep3r_LZWg.html

@travelwithme7133 3 жыл бұрын

@@hcaquaticsreefing great thanks pal 👍🏽

@captivebredcanada 3 жыл бұрын

You should be able to get the parameters you want with more frequent 100% water changes. Easier than dosing / testing. Even if once a week is not enough, two 100% water changes will be faster and easier. I ran a 2 gallon pico for more than 7 years, tried dosing for a while but realized it was a waste of time. Even in my 10 gallon nano now if there is an issue I'll change 100% of the water with water from another tank that does get frequent testing faster then I can test all the parameters in the nano.

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Average Reef, 👋. I used to do 100% and i got dino. I am slowly getting over it atm and someone recommended doing 20% and that seems to be working nicely. 💪 The dosing side?? its me going OTT with trying to keep Alk above a certain number. A lot of fun with this little tank hahahaha 👍

@bretthuffine Жыл бұрын

I have a 15 gallon and dose AFR, 2.5-3mL a day. Keeps my dKH around 9-9.2 It's been working well and all my corals have been fat and happy for a while now.

@hcaquaticsreefing Жыл бұрын

Nice 👍. What corals are you keeping? Are you testing pH as well?

@bretthuffine Жыл бұрын

@HC Aquatics Reefing a fairly mixed reef tbh. Mushrooms, leather finger, toadstool, hammer coral, blastos, acans, zoas, a chalice, leptastrea, lobophilia, and some favia. (I think that's all of it. Lol) Ph is usually 8.0-8.2. Calcium stays pretty constant around 450 and Mg around 1480-1500.

@hcaquaticsreefing Жыл бұрын

Those are some good numbers there, 👌 and sounds like everything is stable. All for Reef is such an easy product to dose and monitor.

@bretthuffine Жыл бұрын

@HC Aquatics Reefing it really is man. All for reef and red sea ab+ are the only things I dose

@hcaquaticsreefing Жыл бұрын

Sweeet 👍. My pico still gets the All for Reef a few times a week. Very little now tho but the corals are doing fine. Alk around 8 dkh dosing 1ml a week, which is nothing really. The main system is on oceamo

@g-reef Жыл бұрын

Quick question, I have a 10 gallon tank with a mixture of sod and lps, need help to setup dosing

@hcaquaticsreefing Жыл бұрын

Hey@g-reef7001, how fast is your alkalinity and calcium dropping throughout a week?

@jbreefer148 2 жыл бұрын

I'm curious about using all for reef in my tank. Thanks

@hcaquaticsreefing 2 жыл бұрын

@John Jr's Natural Seawater Aquarium, its very easy. Go on their website to get your starting dosing amount and measure your Alkalinity for a few days until you have gained stability. 👍 increase or decrease as needed. This for the pico was an experiment i conducted and it's not recommend to dilute it

@jawon70 5 ай бұрын

For a pico tank. You dont need all for reef. Just a small waterchange

@hcaquaticsreefing 5 ай бұрын

Oh yes, I definitely agree with you. It was a little experiment to see whether it was possible 😉. 👍

@brandonlyautey9803 Жыл бұрын

I have a fluval Evo 13.5. mixed reef. I just ordered all for reef. could you tell me how much I should start with and how much I should be dosing daily. Id really appreciate it! Thank you!

@hcaquaticsreefing Жыл бұрын

@Brandon Lyautey, I believe it's 5ml per 100 litres a day, so you may look to start off at half 😉 2.5ml. Your system is 52 litres, correct? I usually start lower than calculated when starting new dosing products, so rather than 2.5ml per day, I would start at 1.5ml. Then, I would test my alkalinity to confirm whether it increased or it was still dropping. If it was still dropping, I then increased my dosing amount and kept testing until I was satisfied that was stable above 7 dkh as recommended 👌 Hope this helps 😊

@ManuelCastillo-kq3xy Жыл бұрын

hello. one question: are you still doing water changes despite adding all for reef? If so, how often and how often do you do it?

@hcaquaticsreefing Жыл бұрын

Yeah, water changes every week . As it's a pico, more than 50% . Only dosing 2ml a week atm...very small tank

@ManuelCastillo-kq3xy Жыл бұрын

@@hcaquaticsreefing I understand that it is a pico reef, but if you dose AFR, supposed to avoid changing the water, or is that only for nanos or larger? I do not understand that....

@hcaquaticsreefing Жыл бұрын

I would do weekly waterchanges 👍 (regardless of size)

@moritz7476 3 жыл бұрын

What type of clownfish is in the tank? I like it that the body is black and the head is white!

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

@Drivolin o its a percula morph. Not too sure of the name.

@ManuelCastillo-kq3xy Жыл бұрын

Hello again. You dilute AFR in RO water…. What porcentage?

@ManuelCastillo-kq3xy Жыл бұрын

My pico reef have 9 liters effective

@hcaquaticsreefing Жыл бұрын

@Manuel Castillo, I tried it out at a radio of 1ml to 4ml rodi. However, this was just an experiment. Tropic Marin does not recommend doing it this way, but i didn't see any issues with my pico while dosing.

@ManuelCastillo-kq3xy Жыл бұрын

@@hcaquaticsreefing thx!!!! I’m try this ratio too

@theideaofclips5481 2 жыл бұрын

Any one do ICP test and have high zinc from all for reef ?

@hcaquaticsreefing Жыл бұрын

I haven't done icp tests while using all for reef

@estebanmourellebermudez57 3 жыл бұрын

Lol that’s long ting , indeed it is

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@kristoph_exile 7 ай бұрын

where did u get that skull!?

@hcaquaticsreefing 7 ай бұрын

AquaPrint Uk

@hoangpham-fy9xh 3 жыл бұрын

There are many people who think that using all for reef is really not good in the long term, what do you think about this?

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Hoàng, as I have just started using All for Reef, so far the results are great. Did you experience any issues dosing it?

@hoangpham-fy9xh 3 жыл бұрын

@@hcaquaticsreefing Thanks for responding to me! I have just been using it for a month, my tank is 150L of water and I start dosing a 3ml day, and keep dkh at 8. after two weeks I forgot to re-measure the dkh and increased the dose to 7ml a day leading to shock. for a lot of dead corals, after that time I changed the water every 20% of the tank for about a week, then the corals recovered, so far everything is fine, I am still dosing only 3 ml a day. dkh is at 7.5 to 8. I am considering switching to individual fillers. Do not know your other sps tank is dosing and using which brand of products, can you share with me? thank you very much! 😁

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

@hoàng pham. Sorry to hear that your corals suffered. Its so important when starting on new product dosing, to test daily if you can so that you get a good indication of whats happening with your system before it settles into a good balance. 👍 I currently use aquaforest on my sps tank which is based on the Balling method. Very easy to start dosing! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9h8pcqIrZOvfX0.html There are other brands that are just as good. I had good results with Redsea in my last tank as well.

@hoangpham-fy9xh 3 жыл бұрын

@@hcaquaticsreefing thank you very much! I only play lps so I will follow along with this all for reed guy in the long run, before I started using it, I neglected to follow it carefully, but used it roughly so it had consequences like me. just gone through now, i'm still on weekly monitoring and consider keeping dkh level at a stable level. I subscribed and liked your video, I will follow your channel. 😁

@hcaquaticsreefing 3 жыл бұрын

@hoàng pham. Ahhh, I see. Really happy that you have found your dosing routine, tank will benefit from that amd plus its fun isn't it. LPS corals are SO COLOURFUL 🔥! Thank you for subscribing and I am happy you enjoy the content. Post your pics of the tank on our Facebook page hc aquatics reefing and HCA Reefing Join the moment 👍.