Still scares me as well 😄

@@richard7645 if someone scares you for being who they are you must have bad social anxiety. I recommend anti depressants 😀

Rest In peace June what a legend

@@richard7645 Keep your back against the wall lads 😂😂😂.

She wasn't scared. She was disgusted.

Yes fr RIP

she was 95, can you not believe that?! But she’s in a better place, Heaven, god and Jesus will look after her.

SHE DIED?! Awwww. :(

@@C.Church Nooo, she's still alive but retired the character. She's moved to another country and she's in good health.

@@lifegoals9528 OH! What a relief. 😂

Yeah like lesbian bed death And higher rates of domestic violence than in straight relationships

To be fair the year is 2022 and the CDC projects 1 in 2 Gay black men will get HIV. I can only imagine back then. Also as someone who lived in San Francisco most of his life and just judging by the ratio of MTF Transgenders vs FTM transgenders I'd estimate the ratio of exclusively gay men to exclusively gay women whom will for the rest of their life continue that to be 1000:1-10000:1

To be fair the year is 2022 and the Center of DC projects 1 in 2 Gay black men will get HIV. I can only imagine back then. Also as someone who lived in San Francisco most of his life and just judging by the ratio of MTF Transgenders vs FTM transgenders I'd estimate the ratio of exclusively gay men to exclusively gay women whom will for the rest of their life continue that to be 1000:1-10000:1

To be fair the year is 2022 and the CDC projects 1 in 2 Gay black men will get H*V. I can only imagine back then.

I can't even respond to this without being censored. Amazing.

Sooo

Also 2021 I’m here way too late

Recommend in 2022

I don’t think KZfaq was about in 1987

Oh my: your nan is straight _savage_ in this piece, boyee!......

That's actually adorable! ^^

Your nan sounds sound

God, heal this man.

@@THISISLolesh he doesn't need healing

They’re really good at football mate

actually the best actors are very similar to the characters they play! good acting isn't about being "someone else" but about being yourself in different situations.... that's what makes it authentic and believable!.... This is just Pantomime acting

@@guistmagik2506 She basically is the character here. The actual reality of hiv was so horrible the biggest thing the character is doing here is basically alleviating the situation at all by giving it a voice and a context.

@@guistmagik2506 yes and no. Some actors end up just playing themselves in everything they are in. I wouldn't say these are the best actors. It's a limitation.

Actually. She wasn't nice in person.

@@aquak9 Why would you say that?

In 1991 Arthur Fowler was shown painstakingly sterilising all of his son Mark’s cutlery when Mark revealed he had HIV.

@@joshcomedy5119 People always have crazy ideas about things that have no impact on them

People still do

@@joshcomedy5119 There was also the scene in the pub when Mark said to Grant that the beer tasted off, and suggested Grant taste it. In the end he got (pregnant) Tiffany to taste it instead!

@@lordmaximus780 filthy fowler. Phil had his way with lisa while he was outside selling his vegetables.

I love your profile picture and username

@@crumblestheclown haha a fellow league of gentlemen fan ?

I was just about to say this sounds like League of Gentleman then isaw your profile 🤣

@Jamal Ramadan havent you heard theyve changed the name? Its now called Arrogance

@@modotd3885 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

I prefer Dot. Ever seen June on This Is Your Life with that actor with that old man boyfriend? She was a pain.

@@therespectedlex9794 don’t be so disrespectful. she’s just passed, keep it to yourself

think you’re half mistaken, she was a mad, mad tory.

@@issyxox8416 Too soon? Heads back in the sand then eh. Yet people say I need to grow up.

@@ph34551 Yeah, and we know what they sang when Thatcher died.

Have you ever used a spin dryer at the laundrette?

@@ellthompson No. I grew up with handwashing everything. We had one of the last gas fired dolly tubs. 1960s. You can just open the doors even if they're spinning? Good grief.

@@zacmumblethunder7466 Fair enough. While the door is closed and there’s money in the machine it’ll spin. Opening the door allows you to pause your paid timer and check on the clothes. In the vid you can actually see the spin slow down after he opened it.

@@ellthompson Thanks. For some reason we had a non functioning Bendix washer dryer in half the kitchen, that I think my father had acquired with the intention of fixing up. My mother used to roll pastry on it and I used to press the buttons and spin the dials while quoting that week's Space 1999.

probably has to do with all that smoking she does

Sherrilee Bryan also as you get older like everything else your vocal muscles age. That's why your voice gets deeper also, but her smoking hasn't helped either on top of that.

Its deepened alot now but she isn't that husky.

@@sherrileebryan9918 Yes, the late Anne Kirkbride (Ex-Diedre) Coronation Street also was a Heavy Smoker as well. It's amazing to see UK Actors can Smoke but in the US Smoking wasn't allowed.

What’s this about ignorance and poor education? AIDS was most commonly spread through anal sex and drug users who shared needles.

Very well put and 100% correct

23 year old trans woman here. It fascinates me that (at least from my reading) she's clearly written to be wrong, though I'm sure the gay panic was period appropriate she blindly follows her faith and doesn't even have a rebuttal to the lesbians comment. The show doesn't challenge these views, but it doesn't exaggerate them or shy away from showing this interaction as between two grown adults who have a fundamental disagreement. I'm almost tempted to go back and watch this relationship develop. I'd never have considered EastEnders a progressive show before but this certainly seems like a good portrayal from what I've heard about this period of our history.

@@RachelWolfe It's nothing new that television was used progressive ways. It seems to have been forgotten and assumed that we are only doing this now. But it has been that way for many, many decades.

@@RachelWolfe she comes around in the end. The producers allowed the viewers to witness her reasoning and transformation rather than tell them what they should think

She defiantly looked 60

She smokes a lot, that must've aged her, I'm honestly surprised she's still alive.

Jessie 992 Smoking doesn't always kill you, it depends on how it affects your body.

And she’s 90 now

DGJ P She’s nearly 92 now and still playing Dot she has a big storyline soon with Dr Legg

I’ve got an old pair of Sonys like those and they’re louder than most of todays headphones

These days you get buried in your headphones & with headphones that are normal size dumb Hip Hop boys will wear them on their temples as if the sound waves will transmit directly to their rotten TRT infested ego brains.

@@seansweeney8911 exactly. Let's not forget that this was before the internet. People relied on newspapers, TV and radio to tell them about the world. If the BBC news were to report on the aids pandemic among gay people, then you would assume it was a gay disease. Dot was also very religious, and the bible is homophobic. So she has this picture in her head of what gays are, and how they're 'sinning'. Then she's having a nice cup of tea with a nice young man who's her neighbour and who she gets on with really well, and suddenly he turns out to be gay.

@@seansweeney8911 the only whitewashing was 2000-1600 years ago, early Christians telling West Europeans to stop tolerating homosexuality. Homophobia wasn't normal until then.

@@seansweeney8911 Around 10% of almost all mammals are gay, including humans. Read up on biology, and just get the fuck over it.

@@seansweeney8911 ??

They are bringing back these storylines with Ben, the thuggish hooligan who we are supposed to sympathise with. The character in this scene seem a lot nicer. There was a lot more decent people in the 60s-80s. Now they are just thugs who somehow make bank on their stalls of cheaply made goods.

But she wasn't wrong. Her reaction was spot on and she shouldn't have changed it to please morons like you.

its true read. the old testament

Oh, piss off, you loser

Lesbian pride & god is fake ☠️

Lol don't worry the humour wasn't lost on all of us.

YK The Old Testament is silent on lesbianism, the whole bible is silent on orientation, but focuses on behaviours instead, not that that stops lazy literalism and skimming of the Bible to support and reinforce prejudices.

Agree totally except I don’t think we used to be more tolerant, hence the existence of dot’s previously normalized homophobia

No people have just remained stupid

Ayesha she’s resigned today😂

RIP Dot 1985-2020

Awh she’s an original character it’s sad she’s not in it anymore

@@life_seeker6102 did her character die off-screen?

@@mavisusername im a year late but nah, not yet at least

The same attitudes those on the right are trying to resurrect. They need to stay in the past where they belong. Fortunately this is only acting, but too many people use religion as an excuse for their bigotry.

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@@dangranet7621 Grow up.

@@dangranet7621 😂😂

Long lost values. Now look where we are in society 🙈

She sucked.

She was a homophobe though

Dot Cotton hated them though.

That was Forced. She played it, so she didn't get Cancelled.

@@eggplantunleashed4740 cancelled? she was born in the 1920's....anyone born from 1920-1990 do not know about being cancelled. lol

@@jameswiggle Didn't used to know about being cancelled. Therefore could be more likely to be out naivety, because these things weren't an issue, and we didn't have internet either. Or the opposite, out of good common sense, because it should be nobody's business what you want to say.

@@therespectedlex9794 Actually in recent years, Dot became more accepting of the gay community. She attended Colin's wedding with another man.

Cheers 👍

I loved it! Also, the past must never be forgotten regardless of what we think of it.

You must be too busy being quare with your sporty friends to get upset!!

Remember be careful, it only takes about a teaspoon of aids shoved up your butt and that's it.

So you find it funny because it's acting what a lot of people her age think 🤣

There was the issue that Barry was underage too, which was problematic, rather than Colin being gay. Dot became close friends with Colin.

I agree wholeheartedly! I'm a child of the 80s myself but it wasn't until mid 2014 that I started to come out to very close friends and by the Summer of 2015 that I started to come out to everyone else. I'm a bisexual and was nearly 36. Looking back I'm glad I did. I was still "in the closet" (if you like) and was hesitant about coming out up until that time. This episode was obviously in 1987 when AIDS and HIV were still believed to be a largely "homosexual" thing or as a result of promiscuous behaviour et, all and Dot was of a certain generation. The episode was of it's time.

In 1997, the actor who played Willy Roper, was described as going on holiday with his "lifelong companion". People forget how much attitudes have shifted in the last decade.

People don’t have short memories, and I don’t see commenters who are shocked by the clip. Any reasonable person remembers and knows that this was how things were, I’m a child of the 00s and even people younger than be know this. The only “shock” is how ridiculous the views in this scene are in Current Year. It’s not ignorant to gawk at how bad things were and how accepted it was to talk like that.

Yet he was such a nice boy wasn't he. No trouble from him.

🤮 some really warped people now days ! In the end times degenerates will be idolised

Vegetarianism... and Cats.

@@timothyj1966 WTF? Should be veganism and cats?

LMAO IKR

No 'woke' is having male serial killers self ID into women's prisons or getting upset at virtually everything. Bigotry should always be resisted from both the left and right.

@OlJimJam 100%

Gay characters are needed to win awards just search up the rules for The Oscars a list of things needed to be nominated for an Oscar.

@@theslavemotivator3571 Who gives a toss about the Oscars tbh? But it's hardly a nefarious agenda to ensure your awards are inclusive. There are all kinds of problems with industry sycophancy in the Oscars that ought to bother you more than a good-natured attempt to offer representation.

Stephen Kissane You would be surprised, some communities were quite homophobic in the uk, even in the early 10s, not all though. But it feels like it’s only recently homosexuality has really been destigmatised though of cause discrimination and stuff can still exist. People were also more religious in the 80s. There is an Oprah video where she seems against an atheist organisation that offered a helpline for atheists back then.

@@PeteS_1994 Nope it's still really bad

@@thunder_heads it’s far far better than it was though. The ignorant can scream and shout as much as they like but they’re a dying breed and the world will not mourn their loss.

If anything now the love that dare not speak its name now refuses to STFU . Way too much it and transgender being forced upon people like it's normal or something

June Brown always supported gay rights. Wonderful woman.

@@antonimartinez9961 yes she was

Doesn't matter if you agree or not, her views in this context are not "ridiculous", they're inline with her religious beliefs. It's entirely consistent.

@@flammenjc ...so religious beliefs can't be ridiculous? Dumb take.

@@flammenjc bore off

Hahahaha!🥳 so😂 funny 🤪 I’m 😱 screaming😎

@@harry490 I mean, I think that's his piont.

Genuinely hilarious, like an MDE sketch.

No she hasn't. She may not think AIDS is God's divine punishment on gays anymore but she's still a homophobe. When Colin (Barry's guy) came back in 2016 to marry his boyfriend Dot was friends with him but told him she wouldn't attend his wedding because she believed gay marriage wasn't right. She also told her granddaughter Sonia (who's bisexual) that if she were to marry a woman she wouldn't attend her wedding either for the same reason, AND THAT'S HER GRANDDAUGHTER SHE'S SAYING THAT TO!

David Mernick So what? Not everyone has to accept it do they? Doesn't make her a bad person. She still loves her family

@@Lava91point0 "So what? Not everyone has to accept it do they? Doesn't make her a bad person." If she's a bigot with homophobic opinions then that's exactly what it makes her. A hypocrite too.

David Mernick Lying, stealing, cheating, abusing others, these are all traits of a bad person. A fucking opinion or sheer disapproval of something doesn't come close, hypocrite maybe but not something that makes her a bad person. If you try to tell being a hypocrite is what qualifies as bad, then that's all of us isn't it?

It’s a tv show

Ironically, I'd say we have only entered the dark ages in recent times. Though humanity has progressed through technology and other accomplishments, we have definitely receded in more ways than one; like teaching 6 year old children "what this part does" and how to have children for example.

@@MachonaVideos rather they learn the facts from their parents in gentle, wholesome ways than from children in the schoolyard in vulgar, incorrect ways

@@calistusjay60 exactly. I really don't think that enough people realise how far gone this world is, and has become. It's a scary world that we're living in these days where absolutely anything goes; such a notion seems "great & accepting" but it will & is causing more harm than any of the old ways of teaching kids will ever have done.

The aids comment is not, its very offensive and insulting to everyone who died from that awful illness. Its not a gay illness as for one lesbians can’t really catch it?? And in 2022 more straight people are catching it than gays. Cant believe they left that comment in its so offensive to so many people

Think we just care less and less as time goes by

Indoctrinated by religion from a young age . Still happens today

But if you get told about an issue constantly, you are no longer ignorant. Your grandmother wasn't ignorant the moment she found out about it. Ignorance means YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT SOMETHING. She knew. For example, Dot isn't ignorance about homosexuality but she was ignorant about the aids bit, but once she understands that gayness doesn't equate to aids automatically, she will no longer be ignorant about that. I just think that people shouldn't hide behind "ignorance" when they *actually do know* something but just continue to hate or disagree or discriminate or exclude and isolate others. By the way I'm not saying that ppl don't learn everyday or anything like that. I'm just saying by definition, people are no longer ignorant once they know. But also I mean some people will never accept certain things anyways and in my opinion, as long as that doesn't threaten people's opportunities then it is what it is really.

@@Laura-sg6ss, you started by pretty much repeating what I said. Just being told about something doesn’t address ignorance particularly. One has to fully understand before one’s ignorance is properly addressed. Ones narrow mind and stubbornness could mean that they don’t learn at all. I don’t care that much really. Someone else’s problem is their problem. I’m still ignorant about all sorts of thing I don’t yet know. But my heart and mind is open to learn. I think that my grandmother and mother gifted me. So it comes full circle. Some people just don’t have the time or patience to want to know, so they remain ignorant. That’s up to them, really. I don’t hold that against them. And I think at that time we were all learning about AIDS. We don’t even call it that any more, which is further learning by humans. Thankfully acute-HIV is no longer as prevalent thanks to modern drugs.

@@martywalker9193 No you said that ignorance is innocent and I'm saying that only to a point. Where we seem to differ is that point of not being ignorant. I'm saying they are ignorant about specific things. I agree their stubbornness deters them but For example, like I said once upon a time, someone may have no idea ppl can be gay. Once they know then they're not ignorant about THAT. However, they may be taught to associate it with aids and until they research then they'll still be ignorant about it - but they don't research to know which is NOW an active decision. But my comment wasn't to talk about what is taught or not - it's addressing the stubborn side - being stubborn is actively choosing to disagree and that's not "innocent." But tbh I see your point and wish you a good day 🙂

I guess there's a difference between willful ignorance and just plain ignorance. I'd agree that ignorance itself can be innocent, a lot of the time even, but willful ignorance, as I call it, like when someone is given the option to learn about something but chooses not to, is most of the time, not innocent. So maybe under these definitions we're all on more of the same page? I say most of the time willful ignorance is not innocent, instead of at all times, as I feel it is an understandable reaction to not believe something that's told to you when it directly contradicts something you've believed for nearly your whole life. However it mostly seems that willful ignorance is due to spite or something just as bad, stripping it of it's innocence.

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It had humour and was watchable

kainan harrison I don't think so

You mean someone who voted to legalise homosexuality? That Margaret Thatcher?

@@JoshuaMSP1995 Sorry?! It was her government that introduced Section 28 and kept the age of consent for gay men at 21 whereas it was 16 for straight men.

@@kevinlongman007 Margaret Thatcher voted to legalise homosexuality. Just a fact.

It is her

Oh yes those homophobic years running through the fields heterosexual images of course impossible we did it nonetheless because Weetabix has magical powers in them days lol the English public are still thick as s*** and the sun how twice as dripping brexit Tory government transphobia sadly the more things change the more they stay the same but you are insane if you do not see how we have it so much better now compared to the 80s where Romance was somehow a toilet lol I've given that ago it's not very romantic don't know what 80s people were thinking. Who the f*** gets turned on in a toilet it's not the easiest thing in the world that is for sure.

Literally the only good things about the 80s was the music

Yes attitudes have changed but the truth never will.

@@AJ-cv9zf What does that mean?

@@spinachpies basically he's saying "homophobic bigotry may be less common these days, but there'll always be bigoted homophobes"

@@SN4KEBYTE like him I'm guessing

@@spinachpies yes exactly

not quite

Louise Davison This series is shite

@Dark Glow You just called all straight people ignorant and sheep. Generalising much?

@Way to Mars you sound ignorant with that comment.

More men develop & spread aids then women straight or gay facts ☠️

Back in the bad old days

We can't be saying that anymore

nah i was pissing myself funniest scene in all of the show, sums up so much about the 80s

Easter enders was exactly that. Everything was hilarious but belly laughing.. Now it's lost its plot except for Tameka.. She drives me crazy but her humour outshines everyone. I still love everyone

Back then it seemed like it was a lot more socially acceptable, at least it did to me when I was a kid.

It’s still very common in gay communities, both men and women. Maybe it’s a lack of prospective partners and over time it’ll even out to being comparable to straight couples, maybe it’s some old holdover from gay culture of times gone by, hell maybe it’s parental issues. Whatever the case, it’s very much true to life, however much we might not wish it to be.

😂😂

HaHa. Lesbians seem to get a free pass by the god.

I don't think we did looking at these comments. The amount of people using God as an excuse for their homophobia is scandalous.

@@christianfrost8660 id rather obey God the Creator of mankind and the Heavens and the Earth than some LGBTQ supporter on a yt video

I don’t think those words should be in the same sentence lol

@@dpinto6278 It's called a bible not a straightble.

@@dpinto6278 This comment got me Richard Hard

Chloe. Marriage is a heterosexual institution.

@@dpinto6278 i literally made a pun about your name but also youre an idiot lmao.

@Kerrie Wilson have you ever spoke to a muslim woman😂😂

@@faisalahmed4074 I've spoken to 11 Muslim women and got a bj from one

@Kerrie Wilson not all of them are forced to wear the hijab. Most muslim women I've spoken to told me they wear it because they feel closer to Allah. It's a choice.

@@elinalukaziak693 Thank you - yes, we do feel like that. I wear it for me and God.

He's an 'omosexual.