Double Strokes vs Single Strokes!

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In this video I show the differences between single strokes (single stroke fill ins) and
double strokes (double stroke fill ins).
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@wanjanechtangroeger 4 жыл бұрын

Finally, here comes the Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger - Drum School with more than 1000 videos + lexicon + forum + personal support and much more! More info: www.wanjanechtangroeger.com/bundles/nds Thank you all for your support! #nechtan #nechtandrumschool #wanjagroeger

@maschinemademan9053 4 жыл бұрын

Do most metal drummers use double strokes at higher tempos?

@wanjanechtangroeger 4 жыл бұрын

@@maschinemademan9053 Only few ;)

@olli._st9422 6 жыл бұрын

Wow you're really getting the right rebound out of those toms👍👍👍

@stevedaly7042 4 жыл бұрын

Remo Pinstripes!

@thegreenblob8736 3 жыл бұрын

@@stevedaly7042 he's using evens ec2 tom heads, not remo

@SaiyanScum Жыл бұрын

I can definitely do most, if not all of that(minus the literally impossible ones), with single strokes; but it definitely takes up a LOT of stamina. I'm definitely going to try out the double stroke now, but never really neeeeded it before. Can't wait to get it down and see if it is less strenuous! You're a beast. 💯

@nickcollins9893 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's another very helpful video from you, Wanja! As usual, my jaw drops on the floor, when I hear how precise and clean those doubles are, ESPECIALLY at extremely high speeds while played on toms. It's impressive, even no need for triggers. I think that the time for me (finally) to discover the double strokes is now. )

@WhirlwindDrums 6 жыл бұрын

What I love about double stroke fills is that you have a lot more freedom to incorporating rudiments into your fills. It takes time, but They sound awesome

@sebbosaurus 6 жыл бұрын

Yess !!! Another double stroke player I'm not alone 😂

@JonahLukeHeavyshield 5 жыл бұрын

I just wanna say thank you for all your videos! They sure are helping me to improve my drumming. We all appreciate you and everything you do! Looking forward to more videos!

@tylerbailey9329 6 жыл бұрын

30 seconds in to my first ever video from your channel and I'be already liked and subbed. Brilliant work man!

@dennisfreeman6174 6 жыл бұрын

This dude is one of the best metal drummers I've seen on youtube keep it up brotha!!!

@user-of3xw3zd7w 5 ай бұрын

A charming exposition.

@nathan_drums 4 жыл бұрын

Watching this video and seeing one time Jane Jaloma doing double strokes toms roll convince me to learn it! Thanks I will watch your tutorial again 🙂

@jeansimard6944 6 жыл бұрын

As usual,the level of skills in this clip will prep everyone who practice. I improved my drumming immensely. Thank you kindly Nechtan. Your help is really appreciated.

@Francoalmeidadrummer 6 жыл бұрын

the most solid double strokes rolles i've ever seen!

@theREALjsikk 5 жыл бұрын

Im new to your channel, but your videos have already been a big help 🤘🏻

@donaldocabral9366 6 жыл бұрын

Sou fã desse cara!

@ostinatodrumming4543 6 жыл бұрын

I love your work

@jukkaahlstrom7750 5 жыл бұрын

Your doublestrokes are amazing 👌😌

@HamsteroidOver 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Nechtan. First of all, thank you so MUCH for all your videos, really they're pure gold for me. I got back on drums 3 weeks ago after after a few years of "retirement" with the goal of improving enough during the next months to finally be able to play any songs from my favorite bands, including Cradle of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, Old Man's Child, Wintersun and even Fleshgod Apocalypse. Today I was practicing over the Dusk and her Embrace album in your honor since I know you like it a lot too (also a huge Nic Barker fan here). Everytime I see you play it's a BIG source of motivation for me and I wish you the best. Cheers from Quebec. :D

@Tony-ju4hl 3 жыл бұрын

I LIKE YOUR SKILL SO MUCH

@jandonath9617 5 жыл бұрын

5:03 Tell it to Mike Mangini 😂😂😂

@freight_train13 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! I'm a bass player who recently bought a drum pad and this makes a lot of sense by ear of the difference between the two. I'll stop flailing my sticks from now on and actually think about what I should play.

@manuelergcruz 6 жыл бұрын

Well explained. Cheers!!

@chrisd5311 4 жыл бұрын

Sehr sehr sehr gut erklärt

@gabrielchicote891 6 жыл бұрын

Excelente Vídeo .... saludos desde Argentina !!!!

@davidgardner5873 6 жыл бұрын

Excellent, Thank you For The Awesome Influence :)

@Ratanaz696 6 жыл бұрын

¡¡¡Eres un maestro!!! Saludos desde Perú.

@Gojiraxxx 5 жыл бұрын

wow i just found this video,you so amazing!!

@vuhonero 6 жыл бұрын

Nice tips bro, rock on! lmL

@JormaJormakka 6 жыл бұрын

This Guy is Awesome! Watched all his videos about 50 times... Wanja...U rock fucking Hard!

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

Nice :D Thank you for watching and for your support!

@arkadiuszrutkowski2287 5 жыл бұрын

Solid double strokes!!

@nonatomusic 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Wanja! Thank you for this awesome video. Can you make a tutorial about the hihat closed double strokes? Or fills including the hihat? Thanks and keep playing!

@gogo2957 4 жыл бұрын

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW BRAVO!

@garrikmcconnell1260 6 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a tuning video!

@realsoupersand 4 жыл бұрын

I think part of the appeal to single strokes is the speed and control needed to be able to do them properly. I agree that double strokes are probably better, especially for stamina, but to me, I just feel more accomplished when I nail something with single strokes. It isn't more of challenge, though, since you have to be playing extremely tightly to get those double strokes sounding powerful and clean, so I like both options. I just prefer single strokes. Great content as always!

@wanjanechtangroeger 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@BORNFREEITALIA 6 жыл бұрын

For me... Best drummer of you tube.

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you man!

@BORNFREEITALIA 6 жыл бұрын

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger I am Italian drummer.... Respect for you. You are my hero, my inspiration. Great artist

@courtcomposer 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@BRADSLINKMAN Жыл бұрын

Danke Sehr!

@bernardherzogs3380 5 жыл бұрын

brutal!!!!

@tobiasrabelink7733 4 жыл бұрын

hello wanja i like your drumming you are fantastic have a tama power kit drumset with a Dualist pedal thats a bass pedal for heel and toe but now comes my question how can i be able to play that fast with this pedal???

@bennybonilla2864 6 жыл бұрын

I've learned that it's just best to know both

@goc6451 6 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video. I personally thought the single stroke fills had more flow and sounded more satisfying.

@jasongood6550 4 жыл бұрын

🤘😠🤘 I use your beats for temporary fills for KRAUL

@TronciM 6 жыл бұрын

Youre so fucking good

@danielkivivuori3284 6 жыл бұрын

I think carter bulford use those single strockes a lot but i dont know if he plays that fast

@alexsymphony966 6 жыл бұрын

Great

@Xavocolypse 6 жыл бұрын

Could you do a video explaining the Herta technique on the double Bass drum, used by Meshuggah and Animals as Leaders as examples?

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

There is nothing special to explain about that and also i am not very good at playing this pattern. Just practise the hell out of it until you are good at it!

@mambulemah 6 жыл бұрын

sangat bermanfaat :) terima kasih #indonesia

@roguedino7694 6 жыл бұрын

can you do a cover? - DARK FUNERAL - AS ONE WE SHALL CONQUER

@erraticboss168 6 жыл бұрын

Anjo Pelipog id rather hear "the secrets of the black arts"

@enterthenatrix6755 6 жыл бұрын

Great video, man. I do have to ask, how do you play so insanely fast and technical with those Vic Firth Metal sticks? I already have enough trouble playing with 5Bs...but those things are HUGE.

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, huge sticks actually make it easier for me. They give a better and more controlled rebound and I can also achieve more volume with less motion.

@dutchdykefinger 4 жыл бұрын

jesus that's tight

@mauricioespinozagonzalez3681 6 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏

@arturofernandez1803 6 жыл бұрын

HI, my bame is arturo im frome mexico, i have problems with the sticks technique jet =( Do you have other exercises to practice this technique?

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

I think most people having problems with this technique (if you mean my push-pull) forget to use the thumb properly. Pay attention to the movement of the thumb on both hands and apart from that it is just a lot of practise. Also heavy sticks make it easier to do.

@jasongood6550 4 жыл бұрын

DRUMMER needed for KRAUL. If available for work. Lmk sumthin immediately ASAP

@lifeisonlyoptional2215 6 жыл бұрын

So I know what the majority of those drums are, but what's the one on his right, not the suspended cymbals, but that one different suspended something.

@GrassFed67 6 жыл бұрын

WHY DOES KZfaq ALLOW NAMES THIS LONG ITS USELESS The China cymbal?

@desertfox7478 5 жыл бұрын

4:42 Hey Nick

@vladmihalca6402 4 жыл бұрын

the single stroke fills look so much cooler tho

@hamet24 6 жыл бұрын

How tight do you set your drum heads for getting that rebound?

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

I try to keep them low because that way it is a better training for my double strokes ;)

@Philipp_Thielen_510 5 жыл бұрын

Ich werde das Tshirt kaufen, sobald ich die 300 bpm erreicht habe, bin leider erst bei knappen 200...

@gordgoroth 6 жыл бұрын

I think it would depend on the person playing partly. Yours are pretty smooth and except at higher tempos seemed to have fairly consistent power. You should check out Spencer Prewett from Archspire. Dude is a beast.

@gordgoroth 6 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abl1nsyIqrnbZYU.html

@gordgoroth 6 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abl1nsyIqrnbZYU.html

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have seen some of his videos!

@miyakimanaloto6720 6 жыл бұрын

if you were to put pillows into your bass drum how many pillows would you put in?

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

Depends on the pillows! Just figure out how it sounds better to you. For more info about bass drum sound you can check out this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/orJpdsZ61NeviI0.html&t=

@anasourik 5 жыл бұрын

Jovanovic marthyn ex drummer or belphegor and teacher can play over 300bpm with single and olso kollias ,roddy, lang, inferno ,kevin paradis ,romain goulon, dominator ,eugene, and more drummer

@jhonnythejeccer6022 6 жыл бұрын

Your english is better now!

@abrahamlincoln5283 5 жыл бұрын

Chester Thompson can do some pretty amazing things with odd meters and crazy speed. He's much more a musician than a drummer.

@charliealston5938 6 жыл бұрын

Check out Dave McGraw, guy can play 300+bpm singles with ease

@thomashammertr9427 4 жыл бұрын

gotta love cattle

@FishininFunkyTown 4 жыл бұрын

He's the reason why I finally got a kit and started to learn . I just got into cattle decap last year and they're my favorite band now . The whole band is insanely talented .

@MelvynHaas 6 жыл бұрын

Good video. Audio isn't entirely in the middle when you talk though.

@joeurbro7750 6 жыл бұрын

can u turn ur bass a bit higher plz

@allan2942 6 жыл бұрын

Ohhhh fuck😯

@seansearle9340 4 жыл бұрын

is this the same for the feet aswell?

@wanjanechtangroeger 4 жыл бұрын

I think for feet the difference in sound is normally a lot bigger than with hands. It becomes really hard, if not impossible to get even hits with double strokes on feet at high tempos.

@seansearle9340 4 жыл бұрын

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger oh ok. Cuz I can do double strokes around like 200-210 but I can barely do ankle. I can do the motion but like 110 but that’s on the floor no pedals.

@zimrah_raniel 6 жыл бұрын

Do a cover from fleshgod apocalypse - the violation

@alexirose8270 4 жыл бұрын

卐 PSYch0 Brine that’s what I was thinking ! 😂

@brycebrycebryce4 6 жыл бұрын

Does Aaron Kitcher use double strokes?

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen him using doubles.

@erraticboss168 6 жыл бұрын

No he uses bounce. Too much bounce

@enzomorales9001 5 жыл бұрын

@Toxcys 6 жыл бұрын

Hey man check out George Kolias he uses singles and can play up to 300

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

I know he is very fast although I haven't seen him hitting 300 bpm. When you check out the following video you can see that in the end (starting at 6:25) when he plays 280 bpm his fills become very short and the tom rolls sound not very consistent: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNdlnqmols2RZX0.html

@fancykarlmarx 3 ай бұрын

Seems like doubles would be harder but they aren’t?

@davenibert9365 3 жыл бұрын

Aric Improta

@sireagle54 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! About the super high tempo 16th note tom rolls with single strokes, Dominator's single strokes are pretty impressive: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hNGIoKmJq7a0h3U.html Could we maybe see drum cover(s) of Dark Funeral songs?

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, Dominator is a beast! But he plays only very few tom fills at 280+ bpm and when he does they are very short.

@Lucidfilth 6 жыл бұрын

How many bpm can you play at your fastest? Single strokes. You are quick.

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

With push-pull up to ~310bpm, with "normal" wrist/finger movement around 220-230bpm.

@Lucidfilth 6 жыл бұрын

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger Hell yeah... Wish I could play a blast beat like you. I had a kit a few years ago but I was forced to sell it. Had to move across the country and I couldn't take it with. Still regret it. Your channel is contagious, when I see you jam, I want to jam. I use to just relax my hands and use the bigger muscles in my arms,back and shoulders with the recoil from the heads. And the lower I lifted my sticks from the head,the faster I could play. You have technique though I wish I could accomplish.

@erraticboss168 6 жыл бұрын

Henry Austin are you gonna get a new kit?

@THEUNHINGEDSANITY 6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Lang can probably hit singles at 280 plus

@diiegiin1 6 жыл бұрын

Tony royster jr can play single jajaj but double are good for humans

@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this guy is insane!

@joeurbro7750 6 жыл бұрын

single strokes aren't my thing, I always do double and I'm fast at them, start slow, once u have mastered at that tempo, increase the speed and repeat. if your stuffing up and its too fast for u to handle, slow down. soon, u will be as fast as him

@davidmichaelsen9805 5 жыл бұрын

Joe joe plays. Please make a video where you play fast double strokes clean. Do it on anything you want. It does not have to be on a drum.