Double the heat to your room change a single radiator to a double radiator

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dereton33

dereton33

6 жыл бұрын

Really cold weather always shows up an under powered single panel radiator. The easiest way to double the heat, is if you buy one the same size, but a double panel convector radiator. The bonus, there is no draining down of the system. Do it yourself, easy tutorial.
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@dgallagher7029
@dgallagher7029 Жыл бұрын
This is so helpful. I was quoted £200 to replace a radiator, not including the cost of the radiator itself, by a local handyman. Watching this, I feel it’s actually something that I could do myself. Thank you for this.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@foppo101
@foppo101 Ай бұрын
You mean a local cowboy?
@stevelane6637
@stevelane6637 2 жыл бұрын
i think having the wife asking questions makes this video. she asked the same questions i was thinking. nice job.
@dereton33
@dereton33 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve.
@kape9004
@kape9004 Жыл бұрын
A great job again from you and the missus. Thank you. I have to change a single rad to a double, but have no leeway on the feed and return copper pipes from the floor. I'm going to disconnect the radiator, then turn the valves towards me through 90 degrees, as the new radiator will be twice the depth of the single. Then I'll connect up the valve and rad with 90 degree pipework. Just a suggestion for anyone who has the same problem. Have a happy New Year and all the best for 2023.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Good luck and have a great new year. 👍
@valentinefeldbergs5992
@valentinefeldbergs5992 9 ай бұрын
I’ve got the same problem. I was thinking the same about turning the valves towards me, but can’t figure out what 90 degree pipe work to get to make it work, are you able to share some link for what part you got? Thank you!
@luigiluigi2098
@luigiluigi2098 6 жыл бұрын
You make it look so easy. Nice job mate.
@dereton33
@dereton33 6 жыл бұрын
No problem Lugi.
@paulb9453
@paulb9453 3 жыл бұрын
love Mo your handy assistant. And thanks to camerawoman for asking the right questions
@dereton33
@dereton33 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Paul.
@bazburdett9756
@bazburdett9756 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video . . .its a job im about to do in the next few days. Thankyou for the posting
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
No problem.
@ratchriat1716
@ratchriat1716 6 жыл бұрын
loved the way you did your measurement you mad it so mush easy loved the video
@dereton33
@dereton33 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ratch
@joeyshore7115
@joeyshore7115 5 жыл бұрын
so well explained thank you
@ZacandOllie
@ZacandOllie 6 жыл бұрын
Very timely with the beast from the east blowing in 👍
@dereton33
@dereton33 6 жыл бұрын
Yes we need all the heat we can get Natasha.
@krismckay1590
@krismckay1590 Жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive, thank you.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@barrygill2213
@barrygill2213 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid so easy to understand thanks👍👍
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
No problem Barry.
@normanboyes4983
@normanboyes4983 6 жыл бұрын
I was relieved to see you turning off that socket!
@dereton33
@dereton33 6 жыл бұрын
Yes too close for comfort.
@indicatoker420
@indicatoker420 4 жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 old build...
@DIVORCEGUY
@DIVORCEGUY 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thanks
@dereton33
@dereton33 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@TheHarlemShow01
@TheHarlemShow01 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks For The Video 👍
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
No problem.
@rickycliffe
@rickycliffe 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@dereton33
@dereton33 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@davidlewis7516
@davidlewis7516 6 жыл бұрын
Is it not best to change the olives on the rad tails?
@markalmeida3816
@markalmeida3816 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
No problem Mark.
@jodonbaker43
@jodonbaker43 6 жыл бұрын
Great job more food videos please.
@dereton33
@dereton33 6 жыл бұрын
They will be coming.
@lordmellis7135
@lordmellis7135 6 жыл бұрын
When your wife asks too many questions😂 Great video... thank you
@dereton33
@dereton33 6 жыл бұрын
Ha ha thanks Ross.
@lusilk7954
@lusilk7954 4 жыл бұрын
top marks bro
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks ✌
@neilsjmcmahon
@neilsjmcmahon Жыл бұрын
Mo - great little helper
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
She sure is ha ha.
@rayc1503
@rayc1503 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely an Ideal boiler, I call it, A pain in the A**e. Now you've added that rad it's going to bring on a host of new problems. You should've changed the boiler 😂, great vid ✌
@kamikas3e
@kamikas3e 4 жыл бұрын
Hi @dereton33, I have been watching your videos and they have helped me a lot I got to say. :) this one specially. I wanted to ask though. I want to change my single to a double/triple column one, but I am not sure of the wall will hold these? I see that you use the "standard type 22" but would you recommend a column one?
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
Column ones are quite ok.
@HazelAndrewsAcupuncture
@HazelAndrewsAcupuncture 5 жыл бұрын
lovely clear video. I have two rads I need to replace so I have no excuse now. Just a quick question - I have a open vented system is there any benefit in topping the rad up with water as well as inhibitor.. or should I just let the F and E tank do it's job ( not sure how much sludge is in it! )
@dereton33
@dereton33 5 жыл бұрын
No just let the F and E tank do it`s job.
@lusilk7954
@lusilk7954 4 жыл бұрын
top marks
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@benplus2053
@benplus2053 4 жыл бұрын
if these things are filled with water,why isn't there more water coming out of the old radiator?
@HKey_Root
@HKey_Root 4 жыл бұрын
Great vids. Thanks. When looking for a new radiator where do you measure from and to, to make sure the replacement isn't too long/short please? What are the dimensions quoted online?
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
I have another video on how to measure for the correct size.
@HKey_Root
@HKey_Root 4 жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 Found it. Cheers.
@corkion
@corkion Жыл бұрын
brilliant vid i had a plastering job done to my wall behind the rad he took the rad off but bent the pipe foward a good bit when i went to put the rad back on i need to stragent it up but im worried i will crack the pipe coming up from the concreate floor
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
You will have to take a chance. Bend it slowly bit by bit.
@rohailali12
@rohailali12 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant and very informative videos. Thank you for sharing the knowledge. In my house I have old singe radiators installed but I would like to replace them with double radiators. It's very difficult yo find exact length of the double radiators and I'm worried that the distance from the wall of the double radiator would be off from the existing copper pipe coming out of the fixed floor. I'm thinking may be I can cut the copper pipes above floor level and install plastic straight connecters and then use PEX or plastic flexi piper to connect to the new double radiators. If possible can you please make a video to help with this or provide guidance. Your help is much appreciated. Kind regards
@dereton33
@dereton33 2 жыл бұрын
I will see what jobs are coming up.
@muppetman777777777
@muppetman777777777 11 ай бұрын
​​@@dereton33yes how come the valve was still the correct distance from the wall for the double? I find the valve is 3 or 4cm from the wall for a single and 7 or 8cm from the wall for a double. Where do you buy double radiators that have the inlets remain 3 or 4cm from the wall?
@msoutlookenator
@msoutlookenator 6 жыл бұрын
When you double your output in this manner for the rad being upgraded does your boiler have to work a little harder as a result? I have five seven rads that could potentially be swapped for double panel convection rads but concerned about the boiler strength. At the moment I have a total of ten rads in the system including towel rail and two double rads.
@dereton33
@dereton33 6 жыл бұрын
It has to work a little harder but the trade off is worth it.
@msoutlookenator
@msoutlookenator 6 жыл бұрын
dereton33 My boiler is already struggling with what I have. Doesn't get hardley any heat to the furthest rad (which is a double). Have tried balancing by opening up the lockshield and working my way back closing off the others a quarter turn as I go back towards the boiler but it's only slightly warm at the top. If I isolate it so it's the only rad turned on through the system it heats up.
@davidreece1642
@davidreece1642 2 жыл бұрын
@@msoutlookenator Have you eliminated sludge/corrosion or air; if so you may need a new boiler. I'm not a plumber so that's my uninformed opinion.
@willo219
@willo219 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the video which is great by the way, just one question -- when you have every connected back up with the new radiator do you open the lockshield and then bleed the radiator as in the video? or do you open the trv, then the lockshield then bleed it?
@dereton33
@dereton33 3 жыл бұрын
It does not matter, I have always opened the lockshield first, out of habit.
@willo219
@willo219 3 жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 thanks for the reply, do I need to lockshield and TRV open to bleed it? I just didn't want to introduce air into the rest of the system
@mknight7209
@mknight7209 5 жыл бұрын
What's the best boiler for these double radiator?
@dereton33
@dereton33 5 жыл бұрын
A Bosch worcester.
@leejones4727
@leejones4727 Жыл бұрын
Great informative video. Just one thing I'm wondering, if the pipes are coming up from a concrete floor does this mean some new pipework will be needed or would there still be a little play in them?
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
There should be a little play in them, especially if they are long stems.
@leejones4727
@leejones4727 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the quick reply.
@kkkkit
@kkkkit 2 жыл бұрын
My house was built in the 50’s and my rads are all a panel - just one single panel if you know what I mean. They get roasting down stairs but not upstairs, wondering if they are efficient
@dereton33
@dereton33 2 жыл бұрын
They may just need turning on more, or what`s called system balancing, I have videos on it.
@PensiveCashew
@PensiveCashew 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial. I've taken off my old rad and got the new one lined up (upstairs, opposite end of the house to the boiler). I failed to note down the number of turns on the lockshield valve (been redecorating for a couple of weeks). Should I just reopen it a couple of turns and hope for the best? If it knocks out the balance I'd that something I can sort later on?
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
Yes a couple of turns is a safe bet. Sort out any balancing after that.
@PensiveCashew
@PensiveCashew 4 жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 thanks for getting back to me. Your videos gave me the confidence to change my first radiator and it has been a great success. Cheers
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@keagandylan5237 2 жыл бұрын
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@pedrojames6149
@pedrojames6149 2 жыл бұрын
@Keagan Dylan Instablaster :)
@keagandylan5237
@keagandylan5237 2 жыл бұрын
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@lilibethrolls1691
@lilibethrolls1691 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, just had a radiator fitted they told me it was a double but it looks more like a single can you help me is there a way of telling? Thank you.
@dereton33
@dereton33 3 жыл бұрын
A double has two heat panels, one in front and one at the back.
@9094328
@9094328 4 жыл бұрын
Did you put the Teflon tape on backwards? You wrapped it Lefty Loosely, but the fitting went in Righty Tighty! I'm actually being serious. Does this matter?
@lewislarkin5630
@lewislarkin5630 4 жыл бұрын
JASON BORDEN yes against the turn so the tape doesn’t unravel
@richardfawcett1987
@richardfawcett1987 6 жыл бұрын
my rads are very old and cant find one to fit
@dereton33
@dereton33 6 жыл бұрын
You can get valve extensions to make up any short fall in length.
@stockguy2860
@stockguy2860 Жыл бұрын
0:24 If I get same size & brand radiator will I need to adjust the brackets? Thank you.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
No it should be the same.
@stockguy2860
@stockguy2860 Жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 Thank you. Learned a lot from you. Love watching your videos.
@moulelmarteau926
@moulelmarteau926 6 жыл бұрын
hello that was a real plumber job ,iam from algeria and i do work as a plumber since 2006 and soon iam coming to uk ,what do i need to be a certified plumber ?and is it necessary to learn how to write perfect english for the job ? although i can talk and communicate in english language quite good
@dereton33
@dereton33 6 жыл бұрын
You will need to be registered. Guess they might set you a test. Not to sure on this one.
@rayc1503
@rayc1503 6 жыл бұрын
Algerino Vero If you want to be a general plumber. You can learn on the job. If you want to do any gas related work. You'll have to do your ACS city and guilds to become Gas Safe Registered along with putting a portfolio together. You'll have to do this with an accredited Gas Safe Registered heating & plumbing engineer.
@Jessicaa221
@Jessicaa221 4 жыл бұрын
Double radiators can be very bulky compare to single ones checkout type 21 radiators these are double radiators but in all the sense look like a single radiator
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stewart.
@davidlewis7516
@davidlewis7516 6 жыл бұрын
Remember, the boiler BTU output is not exceeded by all radiators BTU?
@capri2673
@capri2673 Жыл бұрын
Does it help to get the same brand of radiator, in terms of the brackets, etc.?
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Yes if you can.
@capri2673
@capri2673 Жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 Thanks!
@David2122006
@David2122006 Жыл бұрын
What do you do when there is absolutely no play in the pipe, and the rad pipework is plastered over in a blockwork wall, and only extends as far out from the wall as the radiator valve, and all that is left sticking out is 30mm of copper pipe with a soldered elbow, with another short bit of copper pipe up into the radiator valve.........?
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Drain the system and cut the pipe and extend to the new wider measurement.
@David2122006
@David2122006 Жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 Thank you for your quick reply, but there is not enough pipe sticking out of the wall to get a straight connector on, and then solder on an elbow or bend into the valve.
@stuarthay1
@stuarthay1 4 жыл бұрын
Nice scooter T-shirt Al.Quadrophinia fan are you? 👍
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
Yes 😁
@thebanditsix
@thebanditsix 3 жыл бұрын
Why can't the radiator manufacturers place the brackets in the same place, that way can just hang the rad on the existing wall hangers.
@dereton33
@dereton33 3 жыл бұрын
If only life was that easy.
@MaximusJohal
@MaximusJohal 7 ай бұрын
I've never put an inhibator in the radiator and i've taken loads of water out of it as i thought it had an air lock!
@dereton33
@dereton33 7 ай бұрын
May need topping up then.
@davehunter6920
@davehunter6920 3 жыл бұрын
good vid..but find it much easier to just line rad agin the wall and place a mark where the bracket edge will be then use a level to draw a straight edge.....next measure floor to valve centre / bottom edge of bracket centre to bottom edge of radiator / add these two measurements and then subtract distance of rad edge to valve centre/ get your calculation and mark position of bracket on wall/ easy peasy lemon squeezy
@dereton33
@dereton33 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave.
@davehunter6920
@davehunter6920 3 жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 love the vids man
@qkayani
@qkayani 3 жыл бұрын
I thought there would be more water in the radiators
@dereton33
@dereton33 3 жыл бұрын
Never as much as you think.
@Then.72
@Then.72 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure your boiler can do it
@dereton33
@dereton33 2 жыл бұрын
Most are oversized.
@Then.72
@Then.72 2 жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 agree but it’s worth checking
@indicatoker420
@indicatoker420 4 жыл бұрын
Some important things wasn't covered. Types of walls and the fixings for them. Plasterboard vs solid wall. If that was on plaster it would eventually fall off with plugs or come loose at least. Or not withstand too much force put on the radiator.
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
That would have been common sense.
@neojted
@neojted 4 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone giving plumbing advice use mole wrenches and pliers rather than the correct sized spanner?
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 жыл бұрын
Would need to many spanners to carry around.
@iamkjb1
@iamkjb1 Жыл бұрын
Here in 2022 I know people who are swapping double panel rads for single to reduce costs, ironic.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Thats life!
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