Cars most people actually owned.

Honestly even if I had the money to buy all those 2-3 million dollar supercars, I would still be much more interested in Doug's "regular" and historical car reviews.

Agreed, but seems like Doug has been holding some of his vids. Ramcharger, Clio V6, Nissan Zagato. He teased them over a year ago.

Right

@@deedsofdecapitation7477 expensive to buy, expensive to maintain and expensive to repair or replace! Makes no “cents” to me!

That's an "old car" to you?

Hello Petersen!

Quite a surprise to see you here.

Damn head bolts 😂😂

yeah i miss my 96 and 97 Seville...... i averaged about 26mpg and blew both up.... Drove great though for the year i owned em

Glad my escalade atleast got the ls treatment they all should have gotten

Too bad it’s so ugly 😂

@@mustasheolll2020 that's simply false

I do remember when I was a child and I saw one of these on the road for the first time. I thought the brake lights were super cool.

Oh yea! I forgot about that. They did make a big deal out of the lights. Back when you still had to read about it in car magazines too.

@@fp5495 That reminds me of when I was a kid collecting Hot Cars brochures!

I liked the idea of those tail lights until I saw them in person. I'm one of those people that unless lights have an extremely fast refresh rate they seem to flicker. So for most of the past 20 years any GM car with LED tail lights when they come on they seem to strobe and flicker. I don't notice it as much in other brands but especially the early Cadillac tail lights and also the new LED Christmas lights that came out at about the same time for a lot of people it's just like having a strobe light in your face. People see things at different frequencies and all lights blink but most people don't perceive it so it's not a problem. But for many people they have the same problem with fluorescent lights but for me it was the first led lights TVs and everything were completely migraine inducing. There's a simple experiment anybody can do if they are skeptical, turn on your camera phone and point your TV remote at the camera and push a button. You'll be shocked at the bright flickering light that your phone camera lens picks up but that you can't see with your bare eyes. You don't even have to do it in a dark room the camera phone will pick up the strobing white light that the remote uses to communicate with the tv. But for most people that is outside of their spectrum of vision so they never see light coming out of their remote control. It's the same kind of thing there is enough variety in eyeballs that for some people LED lights are absolute torch torture and for other people they can't tell the difference one way or the other.

@@heybravo23 Every month, I couldn't wait for my car mags to be delivered. It was glorious. Delayed satisfaction is lost on today's youth.

That makes sense. I wonder where it went. I found the auction for the car online, and they both mention it in the flaws, and shown in the pictures, but the emblem is missing.

You ain’t neva lied🙌🏾‼️

That cloud suspension was so awesome. Not great for handling, but driving on marshmallows.

And california

My dad had one of these when I was little, i remember feeling like we were millionaires with the rear heated seats and all 😂😂

I counted 2 or 3 on the lot at the strip mall on friday after next lol

He talks to dam much for the video

That's why I love Motor Weeks retro reviews

A little bit of aftermarket tweaking could fix those issues, along with an LS engine swap.

And it was probably a carry over system from Buick, who put the buttons for the passenger in their door. Same controls, different car

Like riding your living room couch down the highway 🤣

That's exactly what I remember. The manual for my grandfather's old Cadillac had this same system and that was exactly how it was explained in the manual. Passenger could choose "hotter or colder" than the driver's set temp but it didn't really vary that much.

My dad used to have a 1997 Deville and that was to this day the most comfortable car I’ve been driven in. Big ole boat

Style killed desirability not the tech

Your last sentence says it all -

Tbh looking back you’re so right. I had a 2000 as my first car for almost a decade, and lookng back at what’s standard in cars nowadays - my deville had them before them all.

Lol that was the first thing I thought of. GM likes to load up their cars with high end features and tech but stuff (like power window regulators ugh) is always breaking.

Rides like you're on clouds..... Until the air ride suspension goes bad😞😞😞

Really? It's one the blandest most soulless looking designs I've ever seen . Could literally be any mass produced car from anyamufacturer

@@paulthomson9014 a big square car in the 2000s? only thing shaped like this is a impala. everything else was curvy and aerodynamic, like the bmw's to hondas. not sure what other brand this could be mistaken for besides a GM. even the fords Taurus or dodge chargers looked nothing like this.... this is the design all the 60yearolds wanted at the time lol and no other manufacture had anything similar.

You're lying to yourself because this car is so obviously dated with its design

@@paulthomson9014 yeah the regular one was bland, I’m speaking specifically about the dtsi, but you’re wrong about the design being “like any other car”. This was a “boxy” sedan in the midst of cars which had no body lines or definitions, and were what I’d describe as curvy blobs

@@yallugly4317 Is having my own opinion really lying to myself? Compared to the e38 7 series, Audi a6, heck even the w220 s class, this car looks far sleeker and more modern. Yeah the front end would obviously look dated, it’s a 22 year old car but look at it starting from the b-pillar and you’d understand what I meant

The Seville's successor STS (Seville Touring Sedan) had RWD 🙂, while the DeVille's successor DTS (DeVille Touring Sedan) kept its FWD 😐 They were both succeeded by the XTS - which had FWD The El Dorado didn't have any successor

This was when Cadillac was still very firmly in the "traditional luxury" territory, so that's why they kept FWD.

Loved the eldorado

Try AWD.

FWD is a better way to go, for all cars!...superior traction for sure!

How is it running how many miles you get it at and how many you put on it since buying? I got a 2001 midnight blue also LOL! Only 60k miles my grandpa owned it for 20 years and never drove it. Worried about the north star engine being unreliable. Small oil leak that’s been there for couple years have to top off oil. Any issues at all so far?

Of course he’s excited about it. He’s selling it!

I remember the ads for this, I think maybe Mercedes also had this.

He said infrared as well.😳

me too

That's because anything related to Tim Allen has been canceled all because he has different views than other people.

Doug is here for you

@@reformedgarbage5415 p

I love tim Allen's lt5 impala ss too

doug seems to dwell on the fact that "older, elderly" folks would buy these cars...in actuality, most owners were not 80ish, more like in their 40s and 50s.

Wonder what % he takes.

@@PD-we8vf he mentioned it on one of his more Doug demuro videos. I believe it was a flat percentage of the final sales price maybe like 4-5% if I remember correctly?

@@joelflex maybe different if it was a package deal with peteresens

And yet, despite all his huge success, he's still so obsessed with views and analytics that he keeps threatening to stop reviewing older cars like this. So irritating... :(

More like When Doug reviews some ultra rare fast supercar : People be like *"I'm wishing death on Doug"* When Doug reviews a regular 2000s sedan : People be like *"Oh my god, marry me!?"*

@@automation7295 Based. These people who makes these comments are not car guys

L comment tbh

This is the 'Tim Allen Design' trim. It's not actually regular. Best things in these cars were power steering, comfort, and ... smell.

I’m with you there. I hardly ever watch his supercar reviews. I don’t find anything interesting about them. I prefer cars that I stand a possibility of owning to those uber-wealthy status symbol cars.

You dont need to drill into the block, the fix is well known and relatively easy to do, not some obscure aftermarket fix.

@@DrewLSsix it's obscure if you're not from the states.. We only had the LS1, thankfully no Northstar down under.

@@DrewLSsix how to fix ser?

@@christianf4305 The problem was that Cadillac used head studs with very fine threads. These would eventually pull slightly loose, and then the head gasket would blow. The solution is to install head studs from a Chevy LS, which have very coarse threads and clamp perfectly. The problem: The existing head stud holes have to be drilled and tapped and this can only be done with a hand drill. The water passages are VERY close, and it is easy to ruin a block by doing this. Car Wizard is a channel on here and his shop has done numerous NorthStar head conversions. He has a video on it if you look at his stuff.

It just seems that a company like GM would have tested and determined that the head bolts were wrong before they let them on the street. They spent BILLIONS on development and this slips through?

Same here. I've got a 2002 DTS with 145,000 miles --- never had any trouble with it. Fast car, good performance, good gas mileage.

@@bramlintrent1145 Even the stock LD8 Devilles (and later, the DTS that replaced it) don't feel that underpowered, and the gas mileage is decent. A good "work hard, play hard" car.

I like everything about this car except the front: it manages to be both dull and ugly at the same time, the front lights seem out of an old Honda Civic.

I have one of these, and the parking sensors are so cool😂😂 I love it.

Looks like GM sourced the same touchscreens Lexus used at the time. Same exact graphics.

Yes, they were the first ones to offer night vision, something they proudly bragged about as at the time you couldnt have a Mercedes or BMW with night vision

I'm curious about the software they used for the infotainment. Jaguars and Lexus of the same time period had similar touchscreen systems that still perform well even today. Far better than the terrible controller based systems in Mercedes and BMW.

@@BadaBing.UCF30 I thought the Buick Reatta was the first with their touchscreen?

@@safiullahqureshi3196 The controller is a lot better than this screen.

Eh, they were quick-ish in their day. Not really sleepers per se, being slightly faster than most 200-ish hp V6 family cars. The 240-280 hp V6 family cars of the early 2000s eclipsed them in straight line performance. But in the early to mid 90s, the Northstar STSs were a little faster than, say, the original LS400 or Q45, and similar to V8 E-Classes, XJs and 5-Series. Comparing them to the 9-speed or CVT-equipped cars of today, with the insanely fine tuning control of advanced computer controlled systems isn't really fair, though. This was back before variable valve timing allowed broader spectra of power and output was limited by 4 speed automatics. Even wheel slip played a bigger role with less advanced traction control. It's a meaningless comparison. My $50 tracfone has more computing power than a $20k Silicon Graphics workstation from 1992. Big whoop.

mercedes had it too in the 220 s class

Night vision also as well as magna ride

/S

@@nickyj3571 Surprised he didn't' mention the magnetic ride. Was that feature adjustable? i.e. you could make it more hard or soft riding?

The navigation system is so obsolete. The plastic push buttons are horrible. It was the era and I worked inside General Motors Design Staff in the Chevy III Studio on the C5 Corvette at the time.

And STS-V

@@alexkyle6960 Yes STS-V, the forgotten V!

😂 true words

I noticed that too. I owned a 2005 and I think it was just on in this video because the ignition was on, not running. The battery light was also lit.

@@hotandnasty that's a possibility. At least with my '04 Mary Kay, it's got a misfire on the 7th cylinder and a bad 0² sensor.

The car was off. This is standard procedure.

@@waywithwords3632 you had a 04 mary kay ? Was it pearl white or the mary kay pink ? If it was mary kay pink id like to see it, ive never seen the deville/dts from 00 to 05 in pink.

Always hated it back then and now…aged terribly.

300 Hp is nice

@@RoyalLineageLLC I can't say that I disagree there lol

You're one of the few people that actually like the Northstar engines.

The headstud fix costs 5k the cars not even worth 1500 in decent shape.

Nah, they were right to prioritize small-block development. They are simply better engines.

I was not that lucky 🍀! My 1999 Cadillac started burning oil at 32,000 miles! Had the runaround with Cadillac. Sued them under the lemon law but got only $2000. I’ll never buy another GM product. Like some many others! I now drive Lexus! Second vehicle! Only one problem! Had to do with an adjustment needed for the braking system. 130,000 miles still runs strong!

Dude, the engine rumble sounds crazy good....

Yes, all part of the Northstar System. Haha. Or, at Oldsmobile, the Precision Control System.

@@matthewbowen5841 I just learned that from you! Makes sense, since the Aurora had a de-bored version of that powertrain.

I agree! I always noticed these taillights and thought they were so cool! I didn't know they were just straight LED, like the ones that are common nowadays. I always thought they used fiber optics somehow. For some reason, these lights still stand out today when I see them. They just look different than the current LEDs.

Second that! Was truly amazed by them. Didn’t know about LED technology back then and always referred to them as “digital” taillights due to their definitive ON/OFF sequence

Years ago I had a '92 Buick Roadmaster. You could tell it was designed for older people because it actually had a warning chime for if you left your turn signal on too long.

@@danmccarthy4700 🤣

I love it when Doug makes videos on new cars. These old cars are so boring and that nobody cares about them.

I’m pretty sure the views on those videos on new cars would drop as well if he stopped doing these. The people subscribed for older and cool cars would start unsubscribing.

True!

*You're

@@andrewcampbell4254 right YOU’RE MOMMA*😘

Yes!...I bought my 93 Buick Park Avenue from the original owner, about five years ago...he had serviced it rigorously, and it now has around 150,000 miles on it, no serious problems at all--and I love the FWD.

Better engine back then. 4.9 i think or 4.5

Cornering lights have been available on cars for decades! Don't know why Doug made such a big deal about them. My 1967 Buick Riviera had them.

I owned a 2005 DeVille and loved it! It was the perfect balance of affordable, luxurious and sporty (bought used 2016-2021). It gave me very few problems and was great for a custom sound system. You can even check and clear diagnostic codes from the dash! 1993-2004 northstars had headbolt issues that could be fixed for a high price. 2005-2011 were revised. I still own a 2003 Oldsmobile Aurora with the 4.0L northstar that the previous owner had the headbolt issue fixed. That is the lighter better handling sleeker sporty looking northstar to have in my opinion.

That engine will surely fail just because it’s old doesn’t matter how well it was maintained or how low the miles are. They got a lot right but that engine negated all the positive attributes.

lmaoooooo

I agree!.