The car that made Clarkson to meet his father for the last time.

I used to repair these in the 1990's, and from a technician's perspective, there were even more quirks. One weird feature was that on a steel body, this car had aluminum alloy doors and hoods to reduce weight. Another was the insanely long timing belt Porsche used on the engine, which not only drove the camshafts of both cylinder banks but also the oil and water pump, and which was a day's work to replace. Last but not least, hidden under the passenger footrest, there was a massive electric panel with literally dozens of relays and fuses, all connected by a terrifying jungle of hundreds of wires. Other cars from that era already had some modern circuit boards and electronic control units, but the 928 stuck to its 1970's heritage. Still: a very nice, surprisingly civilised car to drive. I remember how I hit the gas pedal for the first time, and while it felt as if the car wasn't accelerating a lot, a look on the speedometer revealed that I was already going over 100 mp/h (within city limits, jeez!).

The 928 is astonishingly beautiful. I don’t think it looks dated at all.

I still like the 928 styling. To me it's timeless!

2017 Doug is like 2019 Doug at 1.25 speed

FYI: The rear sun visors were designed to flip all the way back against the top portion of the hatch back glass, to act as sun shades.

I love how even at 27 Doug looked 40 lol

3:09 Doug, the Porsche RWW is a parallelogram wiper system that requires two wiper arms. When the wiper is turned on, the 1st wiper arm pushes the wiper blade to sweep in a vertical arch. Then as it sweeps across, the second arm drags the wiper blade vertically to the other side of the window. Then it reverses the motion similarly back to the original position. The wiper works similarly like the wipers on the Greyhound buses

Doug the type of guy that holds the door open for himself and says thank you

Ok, there are a number of issues with your review of the 928. The heavy accelerator that you are talking about is almost definitely caused by a worn accelerator cable, its relatively common and a simple fix. I owned a 928 for 17 years and if maintained properly the accelerator isn't any heavier than any other car. The lever on the dashboard that switches the miles to km/h also controls the onboard trip computer. There are hatch release buttons on each side of the car. They don't operate if the doors are closed. The variable wiper delay using a rotary knob on the dashboard was very common in the late '80s as you could infinitely adjust the intermittent delay setting on the wipers. The light in the key is dim because the battery is flat. Go to a supermarket and buy a new cell and it'll be bright again. The rest wiper is designed like that so that it wipes across a larger area. The rotary knob for the door locks was common across Porsches. The centre console compartment was designed to hold cassette tapes and originally had little holders tor them - the car you drove has had that removed. The odometer zero button on the car you tested is different to any 928 I've been in. Normally that button is for controlling the rear fog lights independently of the front fog lights. The back seats are not suitable for a 6' tall person. The rear air conditioning was added to boost cooling system performance in hot climates, not really for the rear passengers. It is a cooling unit only. Similarly the sunvisor in the rear is designed to block the sun coming through the rear window. The steering is heavier than most modern cars but provides great feel. The automatic in the GTS is ok but the choice for me was always the 5 speed manuals - especially the later unit put into the 87 and later cars. They are showing their age, but go and drive another '80s or '90s car and you will appreciate just how advanced they were. The poise at speed is phenomenal, and the passive rear wheel steering is amazing if you start to over-cook it. Similarly not mentioned is the traction control/active differential that provides an open differential at low speed to reduce under steer but will up based on input from the ABS sensors and a G sensor under the passenger seat to 100% locked to boost traction when needed. Put one wheel on a loose surface and this will lock the diff so that you drive off without the low traction wheel spinning. They also have 50-50 weight distribution and a nice low centre of gravity. They are an awesome GT car that you can drive long distances very fast in complete comfort and with confidence.

The looks aren't "dated," they're timeless. That car will ALWAYS look cool. As cars get more futuristic looking, cars like these will look more and more classically beautiful, like how we view 60's European cars today...

I lived in Stuttgart when these were being produced and I must say I dont know if that was the reason for it, but the 928 is my favorite car of all time. I know it's a silly thing but It's really quite a cool car.

I think Doug drank too much coffee before shooting this video!

The "OIL OK?" flap protects the paint, the inscription is just an add on.

Another quirk of this car: with a right numberplate it can cause a riot in Argentina

First let me say I’m a big fan but there are two correction I’d like to make. 1, the 928 was not design to cruise at 65mph but more like 120mph. It was designed for the Autobahn. 2, the rear sun visors were not designed to block the sun from the front, but to keep it off the sun coming in from the back window and onto your head and neck. Keep up the great work

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-the rear sun visor is ment to cover the rear window. wish my 911 would have that. - the "overcomplicated" door pockets are also the armrests. they come closer to the driver when pulled open and are very useful on long highway driving to rest your arm. they are very stable.

The round door lock knobs are there for 2 reasons. The locking pins disappear into the door sides when locked so you can't pull them up with your fingers. So you need the knob. Also it makes it more difficult for a thief if the window is left with a narrow opening. Some would use an improvised tool to grab and pull the door pin to unlock the door. Here you can't do that. The knobs are both functional & comfortable to use in everyday driving.

Love the 928. The beauty eternal design of It is amazing.

Doug the type of guy that wears Power Ranger underwear

Sorry Doug but you're way off on many counts. The 928 was designed by Anatole Lapine and was considered one of the most advanced designs of its time. The crushable front and rear bumpers were probably the first of their kind at the time. The V8 was highly advanced for its day and mounted well back offering a rare (at the time) front-mid engined layout with a rear transaxle gearbox hence providing optimum handling. The car was thus way ahead of its time at launch. True early versions look very dated now but by the time the S4 was launched, it looked very contemporary. The most desirable 928 isn't the GTS but the S4GT, a 330bhp monster launched in 1989. It came only as a manual, handled very well and mauled much of its competition. The wide body of the GTS rather spoiled the balance of its looks but still is an impressive car. It's probably Porsche's way of showing how the Trans Am should have been! I'd also agree your Dougometer, that measures classic cars against modern offerings is largely irrelevant. Keep posting these goodies!

The "weight" of the car and steering make it incredibly stable. I occasionally had mine up to 150mph and it felt just as stable and smooth as cruising at 60. It also had pretty good grip and you can, with effort, throw it around winding roads and corners with confidence. Winding mountain roads at a steady70 to 80mph? No problem at all. Handling was incredibly predictable, unlike 911s of the era.

Doug is the type of guy to get into a sleeping bag head first

Doug the type of guy to give someone the finger on the highway but then follow them when they exit so he can apologize.

Doug the type of guy who can't figure out the rear sun visor is for the rear window.

These jumped in value over the past few years. I shouldn't have sold my '87 S4 in 2015 (it's doubled in value since then). Really nice GTS models sell for over $100K. In order to appreciate the 928 you need to take a 100+ mile trip with it that includes plenty of high speed roads and twisties -- that's what they were designed for.

I had one of these when I was in the Army up in Alaska. A dude was PCSing and I bought it off him for 8 grand. I drove that thing for 5 years and dogged the absolute piss out of it. I didn't touch it besides changing the oil. Sold it when I PCS'd out for 8 grand! Lol. I had a blast in that little Porsche and will never forget all the fond memories whipping that thing around. I hope it's still on the road somehow.

Doug is the kind of guy that suddenly develops a cocaine habit before reviewing a 1980's Porsche.

If you ask any car interior designer, he or she would tell you the 928 interior was a milestone and has influenced a lot of the sports cars ergonomics that came after it.

Weird Science has the best shot of this car ever when Gary Wyatt and Lisa leave the mall...2nd is "Risky Business" w Tom Cruise...great 80s movies

I had one of the rare manual 928 gts with a five speed ZF dog leg transmission. It was a real treat to drive.

Can we all just take a moment to give Doug the credit he deserves? He is one of the most consistently good car channels on KZfaq. Every video is well put together and interesting. The view count on his videos are a testament to how good they are. Most of his videos get upwards of a million views, and for good reason! Anyways, Doug, if you're reading this, keep up the good work!

Doug the type of dude to wave at a dog

I was a mechanic at a shop about 20 years ago and an early 928 came in for a safety inspection. A very cool car. Magnesium lug nuts, a handful of them were so light you almost couldn't feel them in your hand.

I must say I like Doug's videos, but I do disagree with him on this one. That's one of the best looking cars ever. And if it looked that good in the 90s, just think how good the new version would look now. They should have kept this one going

I can't see a 928 without thinking of Jeremy clarkson... anyone else?

If Doug thinks the door storage latch is useless, try picking up the wallet you just inserted from the tiny opening.

You missed the coolest feature of the 928: The cruise control. A friend of mine had an early '90s 928, and one of our favorite things to do was take it up to 70, let it coast back down to maybe 20 mph, and hit "Resume". The car responded by immediately applying all available horsepower to rocket us back up to 70, whereupon it continued in its usual, stately fashion.

If you haven't driven a manual, then you don't know how much better it is than the auto

Doug, I bet those rear sun visors are meant fold back to go behind the rear passenger's head to keep sun off their head/neck. Would make more sense.

The Math on inflation is incorrect. $88,000 in 1994 is closer to $145k in 2017.

As a 15-year-old German teenager in 1977, I was fascinated by this car with an incredible 300 hp

this car’s design was like 15 years ahead of its time, really incredible

Shots of the engine? No mention of the 7ft timing belt or insane looking intake manifold?

Show the engines!

This is one of the most beautiful, well engineered, high quality GT built by any manufacturer, ever!

The Porsche 928 turned me into a lovesick maniac in 1978 on 1st sight. I saw Ferrari 308, Porsche 911, Lamborghini Countach and Maserati Bora, and De Tomaso Pantera as a kid in the mid/late 70s. I was wowed by all of them, especially considering all the other grey and forgettable cars on the roads at the time. But the 928 has been a lifelong life changing passion. I owned one for 13 fantastic years, I still miss it greatly, 9 years after selling it.

I think the rear sun visor was intended to flip up against the top glass behind the passenger. Seems more logical to me anyway. Keeping them from a wicked sunburn on the neck since they are sitting below what is essentially a magnifying glass. 😊

One thing about the 928 in the UK is that they were driven by careful drivers and hardly ever stolen, that made the insurance as cheap as a large family saloon. I love the 928. The sun-visor in the back is to stop the sun through the back window, you fold it all the way back...

Shame Doug doesn't mention two of the car's most notable innovations, being its body-coloured bumpers and its 'Weissach' rear axle with rear-wheel steering. These and other features earned it the coveted European Car of the Year award in 1977, the only sports car ever to win.

Hey Doug. With regard to the rear “sun visors” they actually fold all the way back to keep the sun off the back of your neck and head since you’re sitting under the rear glass ;)

You didn't mention the gas flap was designed to protect the finish from damage while fueling up

The way the headlights raise and lower on Porsche's 928 is just like on the legendary Lamborghini Miura !!

4:15 round knob to unlock doors would have been extremely effective at foiling a guy with a coat hanger....a common method of unlocking car doors back then. (Most lock knobs were a mushroom shape, perfect to grab with a hook end coat hanger)

I happen to find the 928 still looks contemporary 25 years on, it's just beautiful. But I think it would be too impractical for me - what, no cup holders? I wish Porsche would build an updated version now, so I could afford it in another 20 years after that. I'd only be in my mid 70s, so doable! 🤣

I can't believe he didn't get the purpose of the rear sunvisors!!, its simply to protect the head of the rear passengers from the sun rays coming through the rear glass hatch, it should be flipped all the way to the back!

“Maybe your uncle has one” Yes. He does. Only reason I’m here is because it’s in terrible condition and I want to fix it

OK- I owned a 928S4 for a few years. I’m sorry I sold it! I owned a 911SC and I liked it! I would buy my 928 back in a heartbeat! It was a manual and that’s how I would want it today. The author had a purpose and tried to carry it through. As with most experts, he had little/no experience as an owner. The “quirks” he made an object of humor were what made the car special. I could go on and on, but he made a big deal out of the rear visors. I owned my 928 when living in south Florida. Those visors came in handy too keep the greenhouse effect of the rear window at bay. The instrument cluster adjustment was also used by Nissan in later years (I wonder where they “lifted” the idea from) Finally, I liked the video better when I was able to mute the author!

Friend of mine owned a few 928. He had a hobby of dropping the large powerplants in them. The frame was stout enough to handle close to 800hp without twisting.

Doug is the kind of guy who thinks everyone's uncle had a fucking porsche

I actually like that the whole gauge cluster moves with the wheel, as my steering wheel can block the gauges at certain positions.

“The seats are tremendously comfortable... They have an enormous amount of support… Ahh… They’re very soft leather… You feel like you kinda sit in ‘em.”

The 928 made headlines when it was released and it's still one of my favorite vehicles. It was an amazing step to this from the then-current 911.

Doug the type of guy to turn around and look before he flushes.

The 928 was my favorite car as a kid after seeing "Risky Business". I remember back in '96, I used to always see the same red 928GTS driving around town. It belonged to some guy that was built like Brock Lesnar, and he always wore Gold's Gym clothing or something similar. I often wonder if he kept that car and decided to preserve it. I haven't seen many nice examples of the 928 for some reason. I guess the maintenance costs may have been disproportionately high compared to the other models. Those cars still look great to me, and it has fantastic lines. Old (pre-F355) Ferraris? They definitely look dated as hell.

Doug, I may be wrong but I think the rear sub visors are to fold all the way back so they touch the rear glass before you get in. In these Coupe cars the rear passengers tend to end up underneath the glass, and on a hot day effectively get 'grilled'

Hey Doug, The door cargo area latch was to keep it from opening when people used that section as a Door pull. Figured even you would have realized that.

Doug the type of guy who waves at the police

Doug. Review a Subaru SVX, then you will know true fear of someone breaking your windows.

One of my dad's best friends got a 928 S4, which was the top of the line 928 before the GTS came out. His wife bought it for him for Christmas and he bought his wife a racehorse. That car was for its time, one of the top performers with a top speed somewhere around 170mph if I remember correctly. My dad said that driving at 150mph the car was so smooth and comfortable that you had to stop yourself from reaching over to turn the stereo on. That's pretty damn comfortable at 150mph. I love Porsche cars, and even though purists don't consider the 928 a real Porsche because of the Liquid Cooled V8 in the front of the car, the 928 model isn't all that in my opinion but, the S4 and the GTS 928's are among my favorite Porsche's. Same with the lame 924 model. Not a very cool Porsche. It was a cheap model that wasn't fast to by your wife for your anniversary or your daughter for graduation from high school or college. But the 944, 944 Turbo were something completely different but the same platform. A beast of a low end Porsche. But, Porsche seems to do that with a model every 10 years or so because prior to the 924/944 was the 914 which was a Volkswagen basically until you got into the 914 6. Then the 914 became a race car.

A back seat in the 928 (and other Porsche models) was a result of trying to reduce the insurance costs.

Doug, you think these features are weird because you don't know what problems these features solved!In Germany there weren't many sunroofs on the 928 but the dealers pushed for one because they thought at this price in the 70's that customers would want it. They were right because most 928 buyers were married! The Door pockets with the crazy folding arm rest is there because in testing with the sunroof open the wind blasts blew papers out of the pocket and all over the car. The slit is there to drop maps or directions back into the pocket without opening it while the car is in motion. Everything is there for a reason. The Germans are the most intelligent people on the planet. Believe me I wish I was one of them, I'm not! For the headlight, there were covers offered for them if you want to hide the headlights completely. You twist the door lock knob because in testing people tore rotator cuffs when pulling up on the button from the back or from weird angles. It was bad! You pull up the trunk button because it is a "safety switch" if you push it down you might press it while driving. The center console if for maps. That is why they made it shallow. You could buy an after market deeper pocket. The odometer reset button is there and it's big for rally racing just like the map pockets!!! I'm going to stop here and shut off the video. You have shown me time after time that you don't know about cars. There is an old saying "if you don't know what the bump on the roof of as GT40 is for just buy a Prius and call it quits!

The only thing that's bothering me about dougscore is that you compare everything to modern cars. So basically you can say some of the best and most iconic cars from the past are rubbish, because they didnt have luxury equipment that wasn't even invented etc. Hard to take this kind of a rating system seriously.

One of the few original condition I ever seen,I always have special love for the 928...

Thanks for showing these interesting quirks. Fun fact if you care, in Denmark you can get a high reduction of registration tax when registering a car as a pickup van (2 seater), but the interiour and exteriour had to obey some rules. Some smart guys (in Norway afaik) found a way to make this particular car and the Chevrolet Camaro pass these rules, more than halving the registration tax. The cars had a pickup lid that camouflaged them as passenger. The only way to see the difference is the color of the license plates (yellow for vans and white for passenger) Rules for vans were changed shortly after, but I still see a Porsche and a Camaro van from time to time :)

I too am lit when the doors are locked

This is honestly still a nice car it has good looks

3:40 lol, can you imagine Doug *pushing* his giant self up using the door and bending it?? Brings it back like, "yeah not sure why the door hinges are so wonky"

Seems to me the hatch with fold-down rear seats should give it more on the practicality score, if you view it as essentially a 2-seat daily driver. As for the door locking turn-knob, my first thought is that it did indeed have a useful purpose: mechanical operation that could not be opened with a coat hanger through the window gap. That was an issue back in the day. I recall it was the in thing to replace your car's door lock plunger with one that had straight sides rather than flared at top, so it couldn't be grabbed that way. Surprised Porsche ever considered replacing a sporty 911 with a "grand touring" car. Two different markets, it seems.

Legend has it that Doug's wallet is still in the cars door

Dude your 928 is automatic :( Unfortunately a lot of them are. FUN FACT YOU MISSED: automatic 928's launch in second gear. No jokes. They always launch in second gear. The only time 1st gear would ever get used is if you actually put the pedal to the floor. This gives the 928 a sluggish reputation. As most of them are automatic and people dont even know about it. Very suprized that you missed this dougey! Its quirktacular.

I love the number of speakers Porsche installed in this tiny cabin !! 🔊 🔊

Your nuts those 80s Porsche’s look great! Ugly wheels? It was the 80’s man!! That’s the whole point of the nostalgia and loving that era it was just cool

Doug DeMuro: ruining my childhood one exotic car at a time

Doug is the type of guy where people will post about what type of guy he is.

The door-lock "circle knob thaaang" was to force car thieves to use something more sophisticated than a coat-hanger to break in. ;')

The rear sunshade are for protecting rear passanger for the sun coming from the rear at the back of the head ...the porsche engineer are not stupid mr doug !

Doug, you failed to show how much genius this cars designers had. Even the small components of this well engineered specimen need to be looked over carefully to appreciate or even understand.. Lets review your judgement of the rear wiper arms. The twin arm setup although adding a level of complication is used to increase the amount of glass area swept by the wiper. They removed a lot of the arc that most other cars wiper systems provide as tiny unnaturally shaped viewing area's. In this car one wipe does almost the entire rear window. Every tractor trailer out their has used this type system to alter the wiped area's shape for the benefit of safety. Surely you can see the genius. You also did not understand the armrest detail you showed. The armrest and ultra handy compartment are great, but designers felt it was to narrow to be comfortable as an armrest for long autobahn cruises. At the same time a wider deeper armrest would add difficulty to entering the car as the doors are long and therefore can't open very far when next to other cars in the lot. Genius strikes again..After you push the button to open the armrest the armrest becomes that much wider by moving towards the seat occupant. Porsche also provided small cushions that tied on with small laces to pad these armrests for additional comfort. Simple beauty and practicality. This car is full of it. Disclaimer: I own 914,911,928. No Substitute.................

Doug the type of guy to applaud in the cinema at the end of a movie

I bought a brand new 1980 "928" for just over $40K "all in !!"

I've been watching Doug's more recent vids for over a year now. I guess he drank a lot more coffee back then, wooofff, I'm sweating just trying to keep up with the pace...

I like these vintage reviews. They're a nice break from all new cars

I've been waiting 5 hours to watch this video just so there's more "dougs the type of guy" comments

Imagine how kick ass this car would be if it was recreated. I found a mint condition'89 GT with 16 thousand miles on it, paid $89 thousand for it. Like new. Coolest Porsche I ever had and I've had many 911s, including a turbo, 924 turbo, Cayenne and Macans, and 912.

The car Tony Montana drove... I heard that early in this car's production, the V8 suffered overheating due to design flaws in the cooling system... That was supposedly corrected in 1980...

Add 2 doors and you have the new panamera styled twenty years ago. You can option one of those to $180k as well

Doug the type of guy to click on the pornhub ads about Melissa wanting to meet you 1.3 miles away

The door storage mages sense for privacy/security it lets you keep things out of the view of potential thieves. The door lock is likely the same reason, by having an unusual unlocking mechanism it makes it harder for a thief to unlock the door. The trunk button being pull vs push makes sense as you wouldnt want to accidentally knock it

One thing I like about Doug's older vids is that I don't have to listen to any "Cars and Bids!" plugs.