Sorry for your loss. My condolences to you and their families.

Sorry for your loss

whats his name? and how old is

May Jesus comfort you after this terrible loss .

I am glad to know you find some bit of solace / comfort hearing this.. Still has to be hard.

Where is that I didn't hear it?

@@Beltfedshooters Didn't occur. Why do you believe losers on the internet? Why should it matter to you?

@@Beltfedshooters1:48. Damn that’s heavy

@@Beltfedshooters 1:46, it's the last thing he says to ATC before the crash. Its fast but its there.

Oh man i just heard that. Absolutely terrible.

I think that was the co-pilot doing the speaking. He first said let's get this thing down in a field, but it looks like they were trying to make it back to the field instead.

I think they lost a prop or a cylinder head and the plane was shaking violently. RIP brother.

And how can a fuel tank explode on its own if it´s not hit by a bullet or something? Sudden decompression, and at such a low altitude? As far as I know, such fuel tanks are supposed to be self-sealing under basic safety measures, and they are also supposed to be isolated from the heat of the engine exhausts.

​​@@Alantheleopard Things go wrong. Hoses, connectors, fuel lines, tanks, seals, can all split, break, burst or corrode. Parts can rub or chafe. Parts can be incorrectly installed, or the wrong parts fitted. Not to mention this plane itself is an ancient design and not far off from being 100 years old. There are thousands of parts in a plane, if it was as simple as you say, there wouldn't be plane crashes. TWA Flight 800 crashed because the air conditioning was left running for longer than usually anticipated with a nearly empty tank of fuel. All sorts of things can happen with things you mightn't even think of until the Swiss cheese lines up. Hopefully the crash investigation team can figure out the cause and suggest ways to prevent it happening in the future.

@@chrisblack2216 That's because the wings are intact. Have you checked your vehicles blinker fluid lately?

Depending how the engine failed they would suddenly be getting a lot drag on that side

@@chrisblack2216 Your point?? Wings don't turn aircraft ailerons do.

Oh sorry, my mistake. Just corrected. Thank you🙏

Actually title showed AK

@@kay9549 He fixed it Dingus

I definitely heard "--ire" so you could also be right

April 23, 2024 (It's written in the description part)

Not to deny or anything, I think it could also be when a mic becomes hot (active, someone turns the mic on that initial electrical connection can sometimes make a short bik noise)

@@jakespencer6781 possible but the times line up astonishingly well for the explosion (time between blip and impact as well as position in turn) and the explosion could be the reason for either a short or a small emp. the latter would indicate / require an electrical spark to happen and initiating the explosion... It's all just speculation. I just assumed it based on the timing, nothing else. we gotta wait for the official, probably not even the preliminary but full final, report

@@boahneelassmal also possible, maybe not emp level, but if it was to transmit the sound for that split second one hypothetical possibility is either caused the pilot's hand to briefly smack the mic button (as iirc they're not toggle buttons, I think only hold to talk.) or something shorted the wires for whatever controls the mic. I'd love to see what occurred in detail and see what caused the blips but the direct explosion picked up over radio waves I highly think is improbable unless it activated the mic in some way

@@jakespencer6781 i don't think that the sound is what the mic picked up... I think it's the radiowaves that naturally occur when there's a sparc / arc. Like when you held your light switch dead center to make the lights flicker and your fm radio would start making noise. I think that's what happened.

@@boahneelassmal my reply to this was removed ... It was a long response and I didn't copy it, hopefully it's in your notifications Something censored me

You're always looking for a new bogeyman.

Not many DC-4s to choose from. I believe this one was the only one operated by Alaska Air Fuel.

"Tell them i love them ma'am, tell them i love them"

What makes you think there wasn't any urgency?

@@andrewalexander9492 didn't turn around for 90 seconds

@@DanFrederiksen 90 seconds from what? in real time, the elapsed time from them transmitting that they were returning to the field, to the last transmission (tell them I love them) was 34 seconds. So when you say "90 seconds" when are you starting that clock?

@@andrewalexander9492 drop in altitude

@@DanFrederiksen So, what was the initial problem at that point. What cockpit indication of the problem did they have? Did it appear to be a problem whcih could be rectified? What steps did they take to rectify that problem before deciding to return to Fairbanks? As far as I know, there are only two people who know the answers to those questions, and they're both dead. And if you don't know the answers to those questions with a high degree of certainty (and you do not) then you're not in a good position to pass judgment on their actions in dealing with whatever they were dealing with. So, putting aside the fact that you don't have anywhere near the information you need to make a judgement on their actions, you're simply wrong about them taking 90 seconds to turn. According to the ADSB track log, at 01:59:08 they were climbing on course (280 degree heading) by 02:00:00 they had already completed 53 degrees of their turn back toward Fairbanks. Assuming a standard rate turn, that means that they began the turn back toward Fairbanks no later than 35 seconds after the earliest point that they stopped climbing.

IT appeared to be the number one engine on the left wing as you can see the flames between the two, and no, he was not inverted though he was pretty close to it when he finally made contact with the ground.

It's plainly a left engine issue. Don't know what video you're watching. Left engine blew and the right engine rolled it TO THE LEFT. Fire is evident as it rolls. Turning left back to the airport was going to be a problem but the sudden explosion at a slow speed might have stalled it. Turning into the good engine is the first thing you need to do. Then Mixtures/props/throttles/Identify/verify/feather. My guess is they are not counter rotating props so the Critical engine blew and the right engine, having more adverse P factor rolled the plane over. Those are BIG engines.

Roll is the secondary effect of asymmetric thrust, initial effect is yaw in the direction of the failed engine and if that yaw is left unchecked by rudder application or reduction in thrust on the opposite side then roll follows and the entire thing keeps repeating.

Dude you blind?

These are absolutely not what the radios sound like to ATC I can assure you that. All these comms online are just from enthusiasts home based scanners.

You won't be fixing it now

Nothing wrong with anyone's radio. All audio comes from 3rd party transceivers.

yepp....................; I had a similar thought

Probably. Remember also that the DC4 is not a nimble craft, was at low altitude, and was heavy. Yes, but you're also probably right. A control issue where you have time (altitude) is one thing, at 1700ft in a tanker is another.

from what people have made out of the footage the number 1 exploded and got hung up on the leading edge of the wing kind of like asa 529 before it dislodged right before impact

Virtually everything you said is wrong. The modified c-47 was designated a "Super DC-3" yes, it's even a seperate type rating. It was not a DC-4. the DC-4 is a 4 engine, tricycle gear airplane, essentially the same design as the military C-54. The DC-4 has no commonality with the DC-3/C-47 The DC-5 was a twin engine tricycle gear aircraft. Very few were ever built.

It appears something was happening before that engine blew.

@@kuckoo9036 I know I know. I'm just weirded out by them losing control from the loss of one engine. Seems on the pictures like the wing is still attached but yes, damaged control linkages might have doomed them.

The aircraft is low, slow, and heavy. Losing an outboard engine on a four-engine prop (non-turbine) at that altitude, violently, is very rarely recoverable. Ignoring the damage likely caused by an exploding engine, the loss of power, plus the yawing , tends to hamper stable flight - it would require a very unique set of skills and circumstances to keep the aircraft flying for a return to the field - which is what the crew recognized early with the call to put it down in a field nearby. Adding the likely catastrophic damage to the wing structure and flight controls due to the engine exploding, the height about the ground when the event occurred, and the stage of flight, this was, most likely, an unrecoverable event. Obviously, an NTSB report has final word, but this doesn’t look like ‘something doesn’t add up’ - it looks exactly what it appears to be; a catastrophic engine explosion on departure while the aircraft was low and slow, and the crew was transitioning in the departure phase to the en route phase of flight.

@@kuckoo9036 I just saw blancolirio has a video on this!

@@arctain1 Yeah, the video blancolirio showed was much better than these stills.

My only worry (AF Flight Safety at Elmendorf years ago Hercs and King Airs), is that they got slow while turning back. Fly safe.

dc4 is a garbage

OK DAD!!!! geez. Take a breath.

I don't know what you're comparing these ATC to, nor do I know if you've ever been under the stress of watching someone die before your eyes, or if you've ever been aboard a craft having an in-flight, but my guess is a solid NO. This ATC did just fine. There's no evidence the pilots were the least bit negatively affected by ATC. Remember, there are many times ATC gets a call about a craft having to return to the field, most of the time ATC don't know the condition of the craft until the pilot tells them; and nearly all the time the pilot is able to tell them.

ATC have got obligations and responsibilities, so of course they will communicate. As a pilot, it's then your responsibility to assign priorities to your tasks, and communicating is not your primary task. Flying your aircraft is.

it's the flight crew job and training to fly the airplane, choose an emergency landing spot and troubleshoot, all of that before attempting to communicate with ATC during an emergency, if the pilots reached for ATC is because they either had finished doing all the steps before, or they skipped them.

100%

Basic info ATC needs for an emergency: acft type/callsign, nature of emergency, and pilots desires.

We have crashes of some sort up here pretty regular. Few are fatal and even most of them do not attract Outside interest. Just a couple days before this someone crashed near Talkeetna. No fatality, it's just Alaska. We'll get a bunch more soon now that winter is closing, rusty private pilots taking to the air, then we'll get a few more near and at the beginning of moose season...moose stalls, we call them.

It all depends on how much coverage they publish or how much you see. News controls the donkey party this way, selectively omitting or talking something to death

As so many other incidents, politics behind it ??

Nother is going on. You're just now hearing about them on social media. Nothing new here.

@@thefreedomguyuk WTF????????????????? Planes crash kiddo. It happens just lake any other form of transport.

Juans video is already out. The plane didnt lose control until the engine exploded and took everything with it. It departed the wing. I would assume it was uncontrollably at that point. In ATC audio the crew said lets set it down in that field .

@@Darkvirgo88xx Thanks. I'll go watch it now

from what people have made out of the footage the number 1 exploded and got hung up on the leading edge of the wing kind of like asa 529 before it dislodged right before impact

Juan never ever gives an opinion. I stopped watching him.

Not VMC roll, pilot not in control due explosive damage, aircraft just doing it's aerodynamic thing under the circumstances. No harm in turning into dead engine with training and caution.

That airplanes can fall from the sky? I believe that has probably been gone over.

It didn't appear that they had time to even implement any procedures. The engine blew up and they immediately banked hard left and crashed. Of course they did have some indication of a problem about a minute before the crash. So, maybe they could have shut the engine down before it exploded? But even to do that would have taken a little bit of time. They had to mentally comprehend what was going on and then bring to the forefront of their brain what to do. There wasn't a whole lot of processing time available to them.

That was not just an engine out. Something flat out *Exploded* on that engine. Likely severed aileron cables and God knows what else it did. Doubt they had time to implement procedures of any kind.

@@davecrupel2817 Yeah, they didn't have much time at all. Something definitely did explode. But in the audio, roughly a minute before the explosion They transmitted on the radio that they were returning to the airport. So they knew there was something going on.

The world needs a dumb comment leaderboard for idiots like you. The communication between ATC and aircraft are much better than what we hear. The communication in the video is being picked up by a 3rd party transceiver probably in someone's backyard or hanger.

Pilot never called a mayday, ATC immediately gave them instructions to get them back to the field and treated it as a mayday call. Props to her One of the first things you learn in flight school: "Aviate, navigate, communicate" if you miss some calls or something because you're work load is too high flying the plane oh well. Communication here was frankly impressive due to the nature of this incident. Most pilots would have called mayday and that'd be the last thing you heard from em

@@imzanky6321 This. The audio is almost certainly provided by Live ATC, whcih means that it was collected and contributed by a hobbyist with an amateur receiver setup, likely in a less than perfect location, with an antenna on his roof.

The Aviation industry hasn't kept pace with the times. Most general aviation aircraft are from the 60s and 70s.

Everyone wants to be the expert. Why do some opine as if they are aviation experts? Airspeed is your friend. I flew DC-4's for many hours fighting wildfires and shut down many engines. Respecting the families, please leave the "guesses to the NTSB final report..

Because that’s not a thing.

@@tcsaviationstudio not an expert but I am a pilot. Not a four engine and I don’t have an ME Rating but I have had multi-engine training and look through KZfaq and you’ll see that turns to bad engines at low speed have bad outcomes. Of course I feel bad for those lost, but lessons have to be learned. In the heat of the moment difficult decisions have to be made.

Multiengine training includes maneuvering into bad engine,does not mean you will die. As with any flying one must respect the situation that exists.

@@garymiller5624 agreed but you have the addition of low and slow here. Training does not include maneuvering into the critical engine below VMC. That’s a bad idea.

Um... no it's not? The trend of accidents has gone down, not gotten worse.

@@FirewallFilms1 I do not know where you have been , but I read almost daily of a aircraft going down in the US. ( not to mention new videos on YT about them also almost daily ) I assume other countries would be worse.... I will only mention a few other issues man aviation is having from near misses, ( also almost daily ) to on ground contact with each other,( also almost daily ) part failures, parts falling off, landing gear missing/failing, workers killed, stuffing animals in over head compartments, pilots raping fellow pilots, pilot shortages, pilot mental and physical issues and buddy that list is almost endless on manned aviation..UNLESS the YT vids and various articles are lies ?

@@FlyingBuzzard I fly, that's where I've been. Just because you're reading more about them doesn't mean they're happening more. All that means is news is more accessible. Of course you're reading about it because plane crashes are, like it or not, news. However your argument doesn't include any actual data. The data is clear, and that's flight safety has increased exponentially in the past three decades. Let's use commercial aviation in the US as an example. In the 1970s, you had 1,647 fatalities between 38 incidents within the US (again only commercial aviation and major freight). Compare that to 2010-2024 where you have 52 fatalities between 15 incidents. This trend is also mirrored on the General Aviation side of things. Tell me again how "Manned aviation gets worse by the day"

@@FlyingBuzzard If you think it's bad now then you'd probably have a stroke if you knew how many crashed daily in the late 1900s not to mention much less pilots and aircraft then.

@@FirewallFilms1 Since the Wright brothers of course flight is safer today then back in the beginning and improvements have been made from windscreens, to frame, engines etc etc over the last Century that is a given . BUT if you "think" man aviation is not in decline as of the past couple of decades your head is in the sand. As I mentioned from equipment failures to pilot errors to mental and physical issues to simple stupidity ranging from pilot arguments with ATC to inept I know it all ones who think the sky and especially the airports are their own personal space. And I did tell you multiple times about current growing issues...so much so that even Congress addressed those issues with the FAA in the FAA funding meetings on capitol Hill before the FAA Reauthorization Act was passed ( where were you ?) Fatalities do not always occur in these incidents however the number of various incidents have increased and even YOU know that to be a fact so get your head out and wise up...and I can count the hundreds if incidents most never hear of because most only see it in or on their own local areas IF they get reported at all and many NEVER get reported unless someone dies I can say the same about auto accidents and issues, one local one near me had multiple explosions and fires and NO media outlet ever mentioned it..did someone die, get harmed, burned up, was it a 18 wheeler, a car ( looked to me through the smoke at a distance it was a mid size panel truck but who knows )? but after contacting 3 news agencies about the incident NONE reported anything about it and local Fire and law enforcement do not release info to Mr Citizen...SO how many aircraft issues have been the same...YOU do not know nor do I , so now wake up and wise up and stop playing the fool. And FYI you think the FAA, NTSB report and or publish every issue or incident ? [ they do NOT ]Nor does the military who also has a lot of aviation issues , that YOU never hear about and only rarely see reports about and a lot of times because family members mention them NOT the military....grow up and move on

The engine blew and the plane went in to a left dive. Not sure how you think 'training' was gonna help, especially at that altitude with no room for recovery

yeah piss off with that ignorance. The plane was on fire

These two guys combined have more hours in the air, as well as takeoffs and landings, than probably 90% of all commercial pilots. Go learn something. Catastrophic engine failure (that most likely destroyed some controls) at low altitude in a fully loaded radial (not turboprop) tanker. The only real training that helps in that scenario is how fast you can say an Our Father.

@@buddlybear what do you know about engine failure? Nothing, have you ever lost a engine? What is the procedure, shut down, power? Level nose down, fly the aircraft! What would you do capt?

@@rgarri6396 LOL "what do you know about engine failure? nothing"

Don’t bee ridiculous. He reported the position. A helicopter was on the way. The Pilatus was inbound for landing and likely too low for that type of maneuvering to be carried out safely.

you are to harsh.....; sorry / first, TWR could have ask the PC-12 crew for that kind of favour; second: it would not have saved a single soul here.

Wow. If you actually knew a damn thing about aircraft or emergencies, you could say something intelligent. By the way, that was Alaska State Trooper Helo 2 already inbound.