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Many intellectual people find it difficult to be social because being a fun social person requires you to dumb down a lot of things, and not think too logically, and more connect with other people on an emotional level.

"Whole Libraries Die every day in the heads of people!" So true

The problem is that a lot of people just don't burrow down beneath the surface of complex topics. And if you spend your thinking hours tunneling layer after layer, the individuals around you aren't going to easily grasp what it is you're fascinated (or perturbed) about. It's the issue geeks (any stripe, any topic) have always had. The world doesn't necessarily share your specific fixation on a given thing. So how do you still relate? And how can you maintain relations in return? It can be difficult. Worthwhile! But still difficult.

I love being alone so this is not a problem for me. I’m married with adult children and really enjoy my privacy and quiet time. Most people bring nothing to the table intellectually and I can’t stand mindless drivel conversations.

This video made my day much better just in knowing I’m not alone.

It is lonely being a deep thinker.

Yes and know. My mind feels more isolated than I physically am. Meaning, that I cannot engage in deep conversations with many people because they're incapable. This is definitely getting noticeably worse over time.

Such wisdom to be found from Douglas Murray. An actual light in these dark times.

Truths that remain true are never lost. They might not be seen, but they are still there.

A quote I wrote along the same lines is, "The road less traveled is the road more lonely." Brave thinkers are always unique.

Deep thinking leads to the realization that the meaning of life is love.

It's better to be lonely and courageous, instead of being in a group and fearful. The past two years should have highlighted how the hive mindset acts. Without freedom of speech, you don't have freedom of thought, without freedom of thought, you dont have freedom of spirit/belief.

I'd rather find myself among the ranks of the lonely then the ranks of the insane

I would say "yes".... Going against the crowd proves that you have to have thick skin to do so, and most likely not many will be going the same way.

Also, I think these past couple years made people realize how alone they really are

My experience is that most of my closest friendships and acquaintances have been within contexts, that is to say within work, sport or activity. When those activities have been abandoned or relinquished then the ties fade. In retirement I find the greatest happiness when alone but I relish occasional ( but transient ) associations with interesting people.

I don't get that lonely, but I don't spend much time with other people.

This is true at the start of your obsessive entrepreneurial journey but you learn pretty quick that life isn't worth it without strong bonds and you re-invest deliberate time into close friends/family/girlfriend. But again yeah the first year or two of fixing your life will be lonely for sure 🤔

The way he describes it as cyclical in my mind is reflective on how we tend to often pass on the wisdoms through every other generation. What I mean is that we often grow up with our parents and then soon realise that adults are not perfect, they are flawed and often we disagree with our parents or then look back on how we were raised and whether we may have done anything differently if we were in their shoes. Additionally, this sometimes knocks down a peg the respect we used to have for our parents but instead transfers that to our grandparents. We feel a deep connection with our grandparents even though sometimes we don't know them as well as everyone else in our lives and as we get older and appreciate morality we try to then preserve the best elements of their generation and pass this wisdom onto the next generation, so in practice we try and pick up on things that our grandparents did right and in essence repeat the cycle again. Once we have children of our own, they will look to their grandparents, which are our parents, and take the best things from their generation, thus completing the eternal repeated cycle 😊

There is such beauty in brevity.

Great content, thank you.

Chris asks such great questions. They are much deeper than other interviewers and at the same time are not annoying.

That last point resonates a lot with a general theme of Indian scriptures.. cyclical nature of time and life. I am not too deep into it but I think idea of 'avatar' also comes from that. Where people saw shades of someone great that came before in young blood. Mythological stories then might have elevated these ideas like films capture and dramatize zeitgeist now

You really have a way of getting otherwise sort of sharp, flinty people to open up. Quite the talent. What an interesting conversation.

That was a great observation at the end, everything gets rediscovered and that's the challenge of new generations; rediscovering what previous generations were up to and why.

this deserves more views lol super artistic how he ended with 'and that's the march'

Chris, been subscribed for a couple of months now, man - great fucking work! These videos are all fucking awesome! I hope you find it in you to keep going with so much great work, brother! Best to you and your loved ones!

Douglas is such a king

Being dim and lonely is rough, being dim but having just enough wit to be aware of how dim you really are is one of life's cruel jokes.

Lots of excitement in my head.

If we self-educate ourselves in our later years, I have found I have advanced beyond the people I chose to be close to - yes, it is lonely when both of you realize you have outstripped the other one on an intellectual level. It creates an unbridgeable, massive crevasse.

All the great creative people have been loners.

I have been dealing with thoughts of solipsism lately and I suppose this is more relevant. The march is the only thing.

Feeling this right now 😥.

The first KZfaq upload, the first time you speak in public, the first time you ask a girl out: these are the hardest experiences, but these are the ones which pay the most dividends in the end

beautiful

i enjoy my solitude. i'm not lonely, but i have also never had a long term one on one relationship with a partner.

A lot of people in the comments thinking they are smart just because they are lonely

I'm pondering this title alone. Still pondering

Whole libraries die in the heads of people every day, trying to succeed as a writer after being depressed and suicidal I got a panic that if I die all the work I'll do could be lost.

Not necessarily lonely, but highly selective and particularly reserved.

at least we have a cult here 💕

In all fairness, it is much easier to seek out and get mentors when you went to Eton and Oxford (he earned it mind you!). For the not so fortunate gifted young people, it's a tougher gig.

Yes!

"We're all individuals!" "I'm not."

This reminds me of a line in the bible "Enter the kingdom of God through the narrow gate for the road to destruction is Broad and wide for the many who travel its course. While the road to life is narrow and the way difficult and FEW ever find it"

Being the smartest kid in class, is like being the lonely kid in class… He gives it everything hes got and continues to fail and the whole time they tell him it’s his fault

Don't say deep thinkers just say people that think too much. If you spend too much time thinking about anything you lose touch and the ability to communicate with a layman. If you talk to anyone with a doctorate in Medicine or engineering you know what i mean. The only people they can identify and communicate with are other Doctors and engineers. There arent many of them so yes they are lonely. What is to much? Anything that negatively impacts your life is to much. Food alcohol sex or thinking.

I'm deep thinker but I have courage to interact people sorround me I knew it's so hard always feel lonely.

Aren't all creatives. Solitude by Anthony Storr is a must read.

I think i like being alone.

I'm so lonely, I just want someone to hold me but they piss me off because how stupid they are ...

Solitude is good loneliness isn’t

truth

More complexity = more uniqueness = alone

Me: I’m lonely, does that mean I’m a deep thinker?

ever decreasing circles.

Love it when Douglas speaks of hope and positivity. As a great a writer as he is, the topics he writes about often evoke feelings of anger and negativity.

I am totally with Mr Murray on this, it is incredibly sad when we lose someone like eg. the great BB King but the many thousands and thousands who were influenced by him will continue and perhaps in time will develop their own original licks to give the world and on it goes.

I don't have any deep insights. Just found myself to be the first commenter!

Check out the book The Code to the Matrix by Sevan Bomar. You should do a podcast with Sevan too he's got a ton of info .

Also sometimes losers, idiots and assholes are more lonely. Don't make the mistake that you're automatically lonely *because* you're a genius.

Totally dependent on the person sense of belief.

I would love to know how this translate in big 5 personality scale. For example I'm pretty sure Douglas Murray scores high on conscientiousness

I've gone through this a lot, especially over the last 5 or 6 years. Most people simply don't know much about anything that doesn't directly involve them.......nor do they have any interest. I'd rather listen to a podcast 9 times outta 10 than talk w/your average normie.

Chris is smart tax for the complexity of mind is loneliness

"If you're so smart, why aren't you happy?" Naval Ravikant

What constitutes deep thinking though?

Deep thinkers aren't always deep logical thinkers. Some are deep emotional thinkers. Both types of people are probably more lonely but loneliness is also a choice. It isn't something to feel victimized by. Are you taking advantage of the social opportunities around you?

The saint must walk alone.

He talks so slow. Watching it on 1.75x speed and its still slow

High IQ people are more lonely cos people who are less intelligent make you feel so lonely. They can be nice, can be easy to get on with. But there is a lacking of gain from those people.

I don't understand anything in this conversation. I would be happy to review the book though if the author would like me to do that. At any rate to send me a hardcopy of the book please ask KZfaq for my email address.

You are everything and no thing , alone but not alone , real but an illusion , you are the cosmos and a paradox . Lol

Vitai lampada tradunt ... they hand on the torch of life, is a quotation from De Rerum Natura a poem by the Roman philosopher Lucretius.

Define high IQ - there are very few. They can choose to be alone, or amongst "imbicils" - like asking Messi to train alone or with pre school kids..

What a waffler!! He didn't answer the question and is just stating the obvious (we discard in order to discover, even if it has already been found!) - which, after finishing his muttering for 4 minutes, ends with a little smug smile as if he said something profound 🤣

Opposite conclusion: Deep thinkers arent more lonely because theres no such thing as "emotional intelligence", there is just "intelligence". People with higher levels of intelligence (who are capable of thinking more deeply than average), will therefore have the ability to have higher quality social skills. Better quality social skills allow for more social connections. Loneliness is a negative emotion dimension, so its not something people choose voluntarily, because negative emotion is generally to be avoided. So therefore people who are able to think more deeply will on average have a stronger ability to avoid loneliness, because their stronger cognitive abilities will benefit them in the social realm, and help them have more friends and avoid loneliness as a result.

Genius is a lonely place…. Take it from me 🙂

42…. Dude you look 52 …

You mean, MAN are lonely

The comments are more enlightening than this boring video.

OUR UNENDING CIRULAR REASONING IS WHAT MAKES THE WORLD AWFUL OVER AND OVER AGAIN !! AROUND AND AROUND IT GOES AND I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THIS VIEW OF LIFE IT IS SO LIMITING!

GRAMMER ERROR: IT IS LONELIER NOT MORE LONELY , VERB CONJUNCTION IS IMPORTANT!