Downhill Bike Or Enduro Bike | Which Is Better?

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Downhill Bike Or Enduro Bike | Which Is Better?

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5 жыл бұрын

Can enduro bikes handle everything that downhill bikes can? Which bike performs better in a bike park? Do the advantages when descending on a downhill bike outweigh the disadvantages when going uphill? Neil and Blake took a couple of bikes each to Whistler Bike Park to find out 🤘
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@gmbn 5 жыл бұрын

If you could only have one bike what would it be?

@mineburgerl804 5 жыл бұрын

enduro

@lisapet160 5 жыл бұрын

XC or Trail: decided by a coin flip.

@sandeshborlikar9822 5 жыл бұрын

Aggressive Hardtail bike😄😄

@martial8574 5 жыл бұрын

A good all mountain who can climb good and descend good, i currently own a 140/140mm,.My dream bike is a lapierre zesty AM.

@eduardocadona461 5 жыл бұрын

A stumpjumper

@chrisgarty 5 жыл бұрын

I want to see a “behind the scenes”. How do those camera men get around the mountain?! I think those camera men are doing the harder work! 🤣

@Aerondogo 4 жыл бұрын

They (usually) use E-bikes.

@k1ng.k0e 3 жыл бұрын

Drones most the time

@danielalokar8760 2 жыл бұрын

Who asked

@Brandonmtbni 2 жыл бұрын

@@danielalokar8760 me

@cedricfreivogel3882 5 жыл бұрын

If you can afford only one bike than the enduro is the obvious choice because it's so versatile and you can do literally everything. However for the park I prefer my dh bike, just makes way more fun and gives me more security.

@jonathanoxlade4252 2 жыл бұрын

Or have two wheel sets even if you have a more heavy bike even tho climbing would not be ideal with a 16kg bike have a single speed setup for pure downhill use and geared for going to work use but it would mean taking the derailleur off when you want to downhill maybe that's where the wireless derailleur is useful no wires just set I up for typical cross country and have another a wheel set for single speed may mean swapping to a smaller chain link system for it if you plan to take the bike out downhill set It up for it

@ROSE-by5su Жыл бұрын

Or should I get 180mm travel Enduro bike set it up like DH

@yannispop6575 5 жыл бұрын

blake has a nukeproof enduro bike and canyon downhill bike and neil is the exact opposite. lol

@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged 5 жыл бұрын

Yea, isn’t it nice to be sponsored? Lucky buggers

@trentont8695 5 жыл бұрын

Yannis Pop did you also notice that Blake has fox and Neil has rockshox

@yannispop6575 5 жыл бұрын

Trenton T true lol

@mitskoala0380 5 жыл бұрын

First time to see Neil on a DH Bike, and he's Flying !!

@Arrica101 5 жыл бұрын

He used to be a dh world cup racer. No wonder he is flying

@_gummikko_ 5 жыл бұрын

Decision is super easy if you only have 15000 to buy both bikes 🤦‍♂️

@erpol9258 5 жыл бұрын

Enduro if you can have 1 bike and you don't go to a bike park a lot . Enduro bike can do all

@williamturbyfill6250 5 жыл бұрын

Just explained my exact situation. Have a specialized Enduro expert carbon but it is a 26 inch from 2014

@sickmak90 5 жыл бұрын

Enduro is probably overkill for most people.

@erpol9258 5 жыл бұрын

@@sickmak90 what do you mind by overkill ?

@Chkhenkelosaur 5 жыл бұрын

@@erpol9258 I agree with him, Enduro bikes are relatively heavier and have too much travel, and no remote suspension lockout usually. Sometimes you want to do climbs and ride on smoother terrain, and having 160-170mm suspension for such rides might not be optimal. I'd say XC for sure, and maybe also trail bikes are better all-around bikes.

@erpol9258 5 жыл бұрын

@@Chkhenkelosaur it depend what you do obviously. Me personnally i'am more dh and enduro . I do some long ride and climb and my 170/170 bike is not the best for that but it work really good for jump, dh and enduro track.

@marcosharvey1427 5 жыл бұрын

Great channel. Can't wait to watch this one now.

@tallulahbeaverhausen4382 5 жыл бұрын

Just finished the Steamboat Epic video with Si and now, I'm in for another treat ! You guys at GCN and GMBN are spoiling us ! :)

@jakemixd 3 жыл бұрын

2:11 that brake is in tune with the music.

@ragefalcon4990 3 жыл бұрын

😂I thought that's music

@willbros1499 5 жыл бұрын

The comments at the end nailed it. It's fatiguing to ride those grades, and by day 3...a DH bike is so much nicer. For mere mortals, I also think it helps you gain confidence, because you do have more forgiveness on a DH bike. That confidence translates almost directly to riding an enduro bike, and you feel more comfortable doing bigger features and more difficult tech lines. DH bikes are just impractical. Enduro bikes have gotten so capable, that unless it's park riding exclusively, DH bikes are virtually useless. I don't think our local shops have sold more than 2-3 DH bikes a year here around Bentonville, and those are all for people who are headed out west to ride a few times a year and don't want to rent.

@kevinfrmkdz 5 жыл бұрын

My trek session is my trail bike 😂 its heavy on climbs but the way I see it itll only feel easier when I finally get an enduro 😂

@Kirkov36 5 жыл бұрын

I prefer Enduro, because its more versatile

@jooncash4709 5 жыл бұрын

Neil’s back on a DH! Don’t call it a comeback!

@willbennett7107 4 жыл бұрын

COMEBACK

@energ8t 5 жыл бұрын

Whistler demands a DH bike for almost all the mountain. I rode enduro last year and DH this year. DH all the way.

@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged 5 жыл бұрын

I rode there lots with a Giant Trance that I swapped in a 150mm pike on, worked great. Whistler flow trails are built so well you could prolly use a hard tail and not need much travel. The techy trails are a bit gnarly but can be done with any mid/long travel fully

@venomtv2928 5 жыл бұрын

@@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged can be done is something different than can have fun

@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged 5 жыл бұрын

Yabut we’re talking about maybe 10-20% of the trails are “can be done” and 80-90% are still fun with mid/long travel fully. To spend $4-5 thousand on a one trick pony is dumb unless you’re racing or live there. A good enduro or aggressive trail bike can ride there and pretty much everywhere else in the world as well. Neil’s comment “this was better on the enduro” part way through says that enduros are actually more capable in some parts of the park as well. I’d take his perspective over most

@energ8t 5 жыл бұрын

Mr. ZiggedWhenHeShuddaZagged Yeah, I meant if you had to make a decision toward a single bike for Whistler, go DH. I rode a 120 on the flowy stuff last year, but still... You get mad arm pump on brake bumps, tore up tracks and extended long runs especially if you don't have DH worthy brakes. You can really send some gnar with 220 and walk away with a massive grin on day one. To each their own though.

@venomtv2928 5 жыл бұрын

@@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged I was talking about those gnarly trails, and i still think that they aren't fun with 150mm. I agree with you on the other part :). I'am a racer so i'll stick to the downhill bike

@mispace8755 5 жыл бұрын

I love your videos even if I understand nothing since I'm french, it's a pleasure to watch them

@haustierone 5 жыл бұрын

lol

@harry0296 5 жыл бұрын

How have you written this this if you can't even understand them 😑

@mispace8755 5 жыл бұрын

@@harry0296 google translate u know ?

@knott4me561 5 жыл бұрын

Ironically Harry his English spelling is better than yours :) . P.s Google translated

@normadicn5700 5 жыл бұрын

Wish I knew French and could translate into French.

@Smurfnotbad 5 жыл бұрын

I'd go enduro because it's better for every day riding because of the gearing but has enough suspension travel for downhill sections at bike parks

@robabrobab4044 3 жыл бұрын

4123y9cau4maybe the same hand

@kbeightyseven1783 3 жыл бұрын

Balls to this, Hardtail for life!

@ianblueadventure 4 жыл бұрын

Someday I'll keep on dreaming I'll be having my enduro bike!!!! For now I will go to sleep and dreaming that bike...

@gabrieldean9559 4 жыл бұрын

I know the feeling. Been wanting a new bike since 2009. Finally pulled the trigger and bought something a few months ago!

@ianblueadventure 4 жыл бұрын

Gabriel Dean wow good for you man, I’m jealous. 😔

@gabrieldean9559 4 жыл бұрын

@@ianblueadventure sorry man i didn't mean for it to come across ina negative way. I just meant hopefully soon.

@rolux4853 4 жыл бұрын

Save a thousand dollars and get a 4 year old enduro bike. It’ll be much more capable than you are and you’ll have so much fun at a relatively reasonable price!

@ramonzimmermann3995 4 жыл бұрын

Just work a bit and you'll earn enough money.

@m00nchildblues 5 жыл бұрын

With limited income, my primary bike is my Ibis HD4 enduro. Secondary bike to come will be an alum grab dash 29er aggressive xc hardtail w 130 travel.

@jaimieboy999 5 жыл бұрын

Yo big up the ibis crew ✌️✌️

@freshturns_snowboarding 4 жыл бұрын

"You really notice how versatile" the enduro bike is, Neil says as he bottoms out the front fork in the vid...

@mnbv5555cxz 5 жыл бұрын

@Neil "Which bike is better when you're hungover?" NICE!! important advice. great work

@unknown-6664 5 жыл бұрын

I love trial bike cause my first favorite bike was enduro and second was cross country(xc) and now its trial i change it by the status!!!

@haustierone 5 жыл бұрын

if i had a real mountain/hill around & a bikepark - i'd MAYBE buy a DH, but since i dont, i dont. :) & :( thumbed up of course !

@JRGVirals 5 жыл бұрын

Phridz I live in Nebraska :( All I got is tranquillity park or custom trails.

@charliecosevski4720 4 жыл бұрын

Downhill would obviously be better on downhill trails but the word enduro pretty much means good for everything so uphill, downhill and everyday riding

@liliandao822 5 жыл бұрын

And what about the freeride bikes ? Shorter but still long travel, can pedal better than the DH ones, and more comfy than an enduro one :) #askgmbn

@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged 5 жыл бұрын

Enduro bikes are becoming free ride bikes, 170mm front and rear vs 180mm front and rear isn’t really noticeable, but the enduro lines can out pedal free rides with better suspension designs

@liliandao822 5 жыл бұрын

@@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged Wise answer, thank you 👌🏼

@blackmetalgoat9060 5 жыл бұрын

these days a freeride bike is just a dh bike with harder suspension and usually 26" wheels

@rudySTi 5 жыл бұрын

black metal goat nah freeride bikes are 27.5

@jaimieboy999 5 жыл бұрын

@@rudySTi go check all the bikes at loose fest, most using 26" wheels.

@peytonbrezski 5 жыл бұрын

Downhill bikes are a bit more stable and confidence inspiring for jumps, but I prefer enduro bikes for tech trails.

@MrTKorho 5 жыл бұрын

You guys are just hypnotic! That is absolutely marvelous riding!

@jackyoung5950 5 жыл бұрын

I was convinced you didn't need a dh bike until i got a dh bike, never looked back haha

@bouakascha 5 жыл бұрын

Have both. DH and Trail bike with 160 mm travel. And honestly this summer i preffered the trailbike even at the bikeparks. Its just as fun as my downhill bike at the downhills but the big advantage it can climb.

@dannybravo6342 5 жыл бұрын

both bikes are pretty sick

@RESolberg 5 жыл бұрын

Btw you guys should go out to Moab and ride “the whole enchilada” some day. Then hit Grand junction and do “zipadee doda”.

@danielsaloka5739 5 жыл бұрын

Depending on the build an enduro can be everything. 170mm front fork even with a 150 rear and a good set of brakes can handle a bike park no problem!

@bodhigilroy 5 жыл бұрын

Nice to see Neil getting some big air!

@craigj2483 4 жыл бұрын

I still love taking the 26" dh bike out still fun to blast on trails.. Enduro i use more 180mm up front 165mm on the rear. Takes the hits well. Lightweight easier to peddle on inclines. Depends more on how i'm feeling when i go for a ride which 1 i take with me

@casualsportshighlights 5 жыл бұрын

personally, I love downhill bikes better, but that's just my preferred bike as I do engage in some downhill racing so... yeah. There are lots of opinions out there and it really does depend a lot on the trails you ride, but for me, downhill all the way.

@Volks_Swagon Жыл бұрын

I have an Enduro bike and LOVE it but at the time I wanted a downhill bike, still want a downhill bike but I'll never regret my Enduro

@wittwer427 5 жыл бұрын

This is really fun to watch the week after coming back from whistler. Rode my enduro and only on trails like schlayer did I really wish I was on a dh. Got pretty beat up by the brake bumps tho.

@jamesbeamond2917 5 жыл бұрын

ive been waiting for this video for ages

@antoanangelov5672 5 жыл бұрын

Me too but the answer is always the same Enduro bikes are the best :)

@jamesbeamond2917 5 жыл бұрын

@@antoanangelov5672 haha

@jamesbeamond2917 5 жыл бұрын

im probs going to get a dh bike though as i am going to race

@bobkin611 2 жыл бұрын

"Enduro bikes have shorter travel so they're less forgiving and you'll be tired faster" Me: *Cries in hardtail (Giant Talon 2/29er w/100mil travel) hitting 15ft jumps, and double black diamond trails*

@JhoDiariestv6418 2 жыл бұрын

Watching from phillipines🤩

@casualsportshighlights 5 жыл бұрын

Great vid GMBN! keep it up :D

@seven9766 4 жыл бұрын

To answer that question once and for all: A long travel trail bike with lockout, 27,5 Maybe a 2017 Spectral... Change my mind.

@powernetwork 3 жыл бұрын

Thx, new to MTB, and I'm building a starter bike to do it all, Thinking 10 speed 3x gearing with larger chainrings. And the longest travel with lock out. Maybe stay with 27.5 wheels. Wondering if anything like this is out there.

@patrykpatryyk8083 5 жыл бұрын

Guys thanks for new video :)

@wolf_gamerw3763 4 жыл бұрын

I would say enduro is better because you can climb and you are fast on the decent. Big jumps or rough single trails. And with good Equipment and components you can shred downhill trails. But it is my personal opinion.

@bozmar1 2 жыл бұрын

I prefer skiing in the winter and down hill in the sommer … I don t like pedaling uphill … for this I like my enduro motorcycle

@charliesrandomthings5457 4 жыл бұрын

"They have less travel and can be more fatigueing" Bro i rode my first park on a 1999 santa Cruz super light 1.

@garethcarberry7516 4 жыл бұрын

I have a devincie troy but ever since I got my downhill bike (Devincie wilson) witch all my friends told me I would never use I can't get off of it! I love it!! Dh for me 🤪🤟

@nhathebest2472 5 жыл бұрын

Your videos made me improve a lot in MTB

@controller2152 5 жыл бұрын

Neil and Blake.... I love all the bike reviews and I love my Ripmo and Fat Bike. I would love to see those DH bikes at Northstar in Truckee for the EWS. It’s nice and Hot and Sandy for those DH’s. Keep Rocking the vids..... 🤘🤘🤘🤘🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️

@rahadibasuki 4 жыл бұрын

Hallo Niels GMBN, we all watching your vlogs in Indonesia, nice tutorial for me..

@Prof1738 5 жыл бұрын

Love your videos

@rileygray195 4 жыл бұрын

I found a cheap used downhill bike and I use it as an enduro bike, so stop complaining about the drivetrain and pedal Bob and just ride your bike.

@yannispop6575 5 жыл бұрын

Both

@gopro_vlogs 5 жыл бұрын

finally neil gets/rides a dh bike

@bakirmutapcic 4 жыл бұрын

which is better for freeride in city?

@pierrebroccoli.9396 5 жыл бұрын

XC bike for the Whistler Win ;) No - just kidding. Good summation of the differences between the two styles of bike. Looking at the Enduro Racing in California this weekend it's punishing but the bikes can take it. One can always add a token to their forks and rear shock and dial in more progression if it's really gnarly.

@kirstenoliver6953 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the vid, great help! Just off to les gets and morzine.

@davidkeane2399 5 жыл бұрын

Trails out here are just top right now. We've had a little bit of rain, and then it's dried nicely. Bit of luck there'll be showers on Thursday, then bright sunshine this weekend. Send it!

@kirstenoliver6953 5 жыл бұрын

It’s nice out here today!

@the_spanner_ch7mp 5 жыл бұрын

Nice riding Blake and Neil Great stuff #GMBN

@user-rv9qi7gb2b 5 жыл бұрын

I love hardtail bike.

@demonhays8460 5 жыл бұрын

Downhill all the way bigger jumps faster through the rocks. Newbies and those who just brought a new expensive trail bike will disagree but em. And I have a downhill, two trail bikes 26 & 27.5, dirt jumps bmx and even a roadbike.

@festus910 3 жыл бұрын

Good for you, trust fund baby.

@demonhays8460 3 жыл бұрын

@@festus910 no trust fund here just hard work and i love bikes, bitch.

@williammurphy666 4 жыл бұрын

The reason I have a downhill and not an enduro is simple, my wife got it for me, and she got a beastly Kona because she liked the colour

@Max-rs7cx 5 жыл бұрын

In my Opinion an Enduro with 180 mm Travel, like the Canyon Torque, is the best for Bikeparks. More forgiving than a Classic 160mm Bike, but easier to throw around than a Downhillbike. Downhillbikes only make sense if you are a really good Rider able to ride high speeds, otherwise they are a little bit to sluggish, especially with these long and slack geometries of modern Enduro Bikes.

@kaydenkubicek6767 5 жыл бұрын

Enduro all the way

@abdullahmualif4202 3 жыл бұрын

i can't see the difference sorry im new to bicycle

@charlieb9903 4 жыл бұрын

Nukeproof are great I’ve got a mega used to have a scout and the dissent looks peng I guess they don’t do xc but who cared bout that no fun in hills

@jackhartwright7855 5 жыл бұрын

Love the channel

@ryancalkin2943 3 жыл бұрын

I have a polygon collosus 2016 DH and I have put a bigger cluster on it so I can climb hills pritty well and ride around all the tracks in the park.

@lawrence4899 5 жыл бұрын

welcom back yo beautifo pepoo!

@Acceleronics 5 жыл бұрын

#askgmbn I'm a newbie (but old - 65!) mtb rider. I bought a Specialized Turbo Levo Expert because I don't have the strength to climb the steepest trails near me without the motor assist. Would you put the Expert into the enduro bucket because of its travel (150, I think)? Or would you put it in the downhill bucket because of its geometry and weight?

@williamgalloway4798 4 жыл бұрын

Enduro

@core-i7413 2 жыл бұрын

Enduro, you can easily tell by the fact that your bike can't be a DH bike with 150mm travel.

@pedromiguel1389 5 жыл бұрын

Silly question maybe! Is it possible to put a "normal" 1x11 or 12 drivetrain in the downhill bike?

@joshhoward502 5 жыл бұрын

Possible, but not advisable as they tend to be weaker and more maintenance intensive whilst providing little benefits to the climbing due to the seat position and weight

@arrajewel 3 жыл бұрын

and a dropper

@namewastaken360 5 жыл бұрын

I think durability is the best reason to get a DH bike. If I smashed laps all day on my Enduro bike it wouldn't last, instead I normally do a lap or two of the bike park to warm up then pedal further up for a longer descent. When I get a DH bike I'll spend a lot more time in the park.

@jonathanoxlade4252 2 жыл бұрын

Too be honest enjuro bikes can do half of what a downhill bike can do but if you used a enjuro bike for sheer downhill riding yea that's the problem you don't see red bull riders using enjuro bikes they use DH bikes that are probably modified on a perfect suspension setting enjuro is basically a trail bike that can handle some downhill jumps but don't use it as a full downhill bike

@gabrielathur5392 5 жыл бұрын

very great video! thanks a lot

@samwilcock2853 3 ай бұрын

Downhill looks like the most fun a human can have. I want to try it but it scares the shit out of me!

@TJ-po9ol 3 жыл бұрын

I bought an enduro bike even though I ride shuttles, because I still want to be able to do trails outside of a resort.

@ratcamaro 5 жыл бұрын

DH bike hands down at a bike park!

@gergoolle5773 5 жыл бұрын

Enduro would be the clear choice to me, but Iam an XC guy...so I dont count

@aigamy3841 4 жыл бұрын

It’s easy.... if you are doing drops that are around 6 feet and don’t like to pedal get a DH bike if not get an enduro.

@bouncyboi9488 2 жыл бұрын

One of those downhill Forks has more Travel than all of my bikes travel combine

@davidkosi7662 4 жыл бұрын

I have enduro with 180 160mm travel so kinda on downhill side too

@michalpawlak3344 5 жыл бұрын

Blake's bike looks so big in comparison with him. Hilarious XD

@bencorcoran7563 4 жыл бұрын

Thinking of getting a vitus dominer 2019 version Thoughts on it? Or should I get an Enduro? I don't do pedal ups tho mainly just uplifts

@Joelrey2007 Жыл бұрын

I already have a trail bike, I want a longer travel bike so I think it would be better to get a downhill since they are cheaper where I live and since I already have a bike that can do all, I would use the downhill for harder trails

@antrace92 5 жыл бұрын

Guys if you can afford 2 bikes just buy a dh mtb. Your laps in the park can last longer, it's more forgiving, faster and confidence inspiring. A proper build will make the dh bike indestructible at everything the bike park throws against

@cartermacrenaris705 3 жыл бұрын

Obviously dh bike will be better at a dh park especially as gnarly as whistler. But an enduro will follow pretty close in performance but a dh bike is more fun

@1madmaxx80 5 жыл бұрын

What ever costs more. Obviously. Everybody knows that you need to spend at least $5k to get on a trail and have fun. If you want to be a good rider you need to spend at least $8k. $10k + up will make you ride just as good as the pro's. Your skill/fun is directly proportional to the amount of $ you spend.

@maximilianoquinones8236 5 жыл бұрын

Nah

@chrisgoblin4857 3 жыл бұрын

If I had to choose to get rid of my enduro rig or DH bikes, enduro would be gone without hesitation. Nothing quite feels like riding a downhill bike and getting rowdy. I'd rather hike a bike and ride my DH bike down than ride my enduro bike. Maybe something like a SC Nomad might be the right choice for me but hell if I'm paying for one.

@nvire5202 4 жыл бұрын

Downhill is good at riding on rough trails quick, enduro sort of made for lasting long long those long descents

@michivanhalen7086 4 жыл бұрын

Love you two together!

@guevaramorkel6286 5 жыл бұрын

Enduro bike+duel crown forks

@antoanangelov5672 5 жыл бұрын

Give this man a medal

@nortondlcl 4 жыл бұрын

Downhill Ebike are a game changer

@SnowMongoose 5 жыл бұрын

Unless you're racing DH or have close lift/shuttle access... Enduro all day.

@purplekillerpenguin 5 жыл бұрын

#askgmbn where would you put these 180mm travel bikes like the canyon torque or commencal clash. Would these bridge the gap between the versatility of enduro bikes and tankyness of downhill bikes?

@exactpeak5995 5 жыл бұрын

Slopestyle?

@JK-xp7pg 5 жыл бұрын

@@exactpeak5995 As far as I know, slopestyle bikes have short travel and small frames

@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged 5 жыл бұрын

Free ride bikes are lighter DH bikes, both FR and DH have suspension designs that avoid pedal kickback on big hits which results in more pedal bob so they both suck at pedaling. Cant just look at amount of travel for shitty pedalling, there’s so much to kinematics that you can have a 120mm travel bike that pedals like poo, but that would be a Walmart bike.

@exactpeak5995 5 жыл бұрын

@@JK-xp7pg sorry, I confused freeride with slopestyle.