BMW M3 vs M340i - IS THE M3 WORTH THE MONEY???

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BMW M3 or M340i?
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0:00 - Intro
0:51 - Lap Times
3:18 - Track Driving
8:21 - Styling
9:47 - Road Driving
13:48 - Trunk space
13:52 - Rear Seat
14:11 - Interiors
15:38 - Tech
16:05 - Price
17:00 - Is the M3 worth the extra money?

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@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
Special thanks to our Patreons for their support of the channel! M3 or M340?
@volvoxc9086
@volvoxc9086 Ай бұрын
M3 without a question
@kaleb8985
@kaleb8985 Ай бұрын
M3 if the price isn't going to stretch your finances.
@ContentinMesa
@ContentinMesa Ай бұрын
The grill kills it
@axcn4733
@axcn4733 Ай бұрын
​@@ContentinMesa yeah, is better on M3
@shmeatastic1930
@shmeatastic1930 20 күн бұрын
You ever seen NoHesi’s M340i!!!??? Do your homework
@rami2538
@rami2538 Ай бұрын
I wish the M3 had the front end of the M340i
@CharlesWilson-oz8ys
@CharlesWilson-oz8ys 17 күн бұрын
Eww looks like a orangutan nose
@justinmc9348
@justinmc9348 8 күн бұрын
Hell nah m3 front end dope asf
@rami2538
@rami2538 8 күн бұрын
@@justinmc9348 To each their own
@justinmc9348
@justinmc9348 7 күн бұрын
@@rami2538 it’s dope how they separated the look imo I didn’t like how the previous m3 and 340i look so much a like
@yg78t76t7
@yg78t76t7 Ай бұрын
The M3 and M340i are two different cars. One is for people who want a little bit extra speed, but still want comfortability and ultimate daily drivability. The other is for those who want to sacrifice certain comforts for ultimate performance, as well as those who want to track it. Both are good DDs, but the M340i is the better every day car.
@nell9956
@nell9956 Ай бұрын
Well said!
@devanathk2005
@devanathk2005 Ай бұрын
M340i needs adaptive dampners to be less harsh and comfortable. In India we don't get that even as an option and the ride is bumpy as hell.
@d-block6136
@d-block6136 Ай бұрын
​@devanathk2005 - That is what a decent set of coilovers is for. Not sure of costs in your locale, but it's not "very expensive " in USA/Canada/Europe.
@devanathk2005
@devanathk2005 Ай бұрын
@@d-block6136 it's twice or thrice the cost because it's a grey market and an OEM system can be adjusted on the fly
@Idk910
@Idk910 Ай бұрын
I feel like target audience of the M340i xDrive would also be really comfortable getting an RS3. The RS3 is quicker, handles the same if not better, and is in the EXACT same price range as a decently spec'd M340i xDrive. The RS3 is perfect for someone wanting to stay around $65k with great performance while maintaining that ease of daily comfort. I think as a BMW fan myself that a lot of BMW guys feel that if they can't afford/don't want the M3 and all it's raw performance that it automatically means they have to get an M340. It's okay to branch out... especially when it makes sense to do so when you know what you want out of a car. I wanted a G80 comp xDrive with carbon buckets after my F82 until I realized it was too much raw performance for a daily driver. I needed something comfortable for 6+ hour frequent road trips, capable of handling snow/icy roads with ease, and still able to have fun with mid/high 3 second 0-60 launches... all without crippling my bank account. So I picked up a new RS3 in Kyalami Green last year and it's been PERFECT. All I've done is: res delete, wheel spacers, full Maxton aero kit, and tinted it. The RS3 has held value so strong that my Audi dealer called me last month asking to buy it back for exactly what I paid for it a year ago. I'm waiting to see what BMW brings in the new H generation in 2027 for the M340i. If it gets 430hp+ from factory and looks good then I'll end up going back to BMW.
@Jokeman718
@Jokeman718 Ай бұрын
Let's be honest, if you have the money you're going for the M3... Stop fooling yourselves people lol
@98ws6m6cvert
@98ws6m6cvert Ай бұрын
I have the money I still chose m340. You don’t have to get the full m experience. For some the m sport is good enough.
@user-ec4hp4nz6y
@user-ec4hp4nz6y Ай бұрын
Yep. Well said
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax Ай бұрын
@@98ws6m6cvert liar.
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax Ай бұрын
@@user-ec4hp4nz6y the liar's liar.
@thatsshane_
@thatsshane_ Ай бұрын
Believe and put your Faith in Jesus Christ’s Death Burial and Resurrection and you will be Saved
@sandyvalentin3072
@sandyvalentin3072 Ай бұрын
I own a 2024 BMW M340 and in my opinion it’s an all-around all season sports car best car I’ve owned in a long time
@SephtheOni
@SephtheOni Ай бұрын
Back in 2022 I had the same decision to make and I chose the M340i. My biggest stips were fuel economy since I wanted a fun DAILY, and price. The m3 is a whole lot of car but seeing all my friends with supras, I figured I could get the M340i there a lot cheaper and be happier. Fast forward to now, my m340i is on fortune coilovers and dinan monoballs with some rear and mid bracing. Easily closed the gap in handling between the M3 and M340i. Currently doing a g80 brakes retrofit. Also immediately ditched the runflat stockers for 19x9.5 apex wheels with a 265/35 squared setup. Then for power just did a DAW turbo with fuel and I'm very happy. Car runs low 10s, probably 9s if I go back and I can make 35mpg on long trips. And I'm still not even close to the cost of the m3.
@kingrabbit7563
@kingrabbit7563 Ай бұрын
Xdrive?
@SephtheOni
@SephtheOni Ай бұрын
@kingrabbit7563 yessir. Only way I'd buy a current bmw
@kealebogapelotshweu5918
@kealebogapelotshweu5918 Ай бұрын
Man do you have any videos or pictures of it that we can see?
@samiwasti8400
@samiwasti8400 Ай бұрын
Still not an M3. Lipstick on a pig won’t make it your girlfriend
@gtellez1990
@gtellez1990 Ай бұрын
its still not an M3 I'd rather drive a corrolla than an M-lite
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 Ай бұрын
As a previous m240i to a m2 owner, yes m cars are worth it.
@thebirdhasbeencharged
@thebirdhasbeencharged Ай бұрын
M what lad, True M or M-lite
@jameswood8033
@jameswood8033 Ай бұрын
@@thebirdhasbeenchargedhe is obviously saying how to m2 is better
@ScottsGuitar
@ScottsGuitar Ай бұрын
Not the same for the m3 tho. They both are extremely compromised, the m2 was small enough you could reasonably feel the difference. I owned the f87 m2 for many years. M3 is a waste of money for all but professional race drivers or ppl that want to be complimented by other dudes at the gas station lol. You could easily make a m340i faster than a m3 for far less money.
@trentreznik3798
@trentreznik3798 Ай бұрын
New m2 are ugly. The old m2 was beautiful
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 Ай бұрын
@@trentreznik3798 I like ugly cars, I don't like pretty cars.
@brianmiller1977
@brianmiller1977 Ай бұрын
Ive owned a lot of performance cars, Ive built out a few of them for both drag & track racing. I bought a G80CXD in 2022, as my first BMW, and its by far the best high performance daily driver Ive ever owned. With just a downpipe, drop in air filters, custom tune, & decent tires its a 9.7-9.8 1/4 mile car. With a subtle KW adjustable lowering springs(very subtle lowering) and it goes from good to great on the track & backroads. I truly believe the G80CXD is the greatest high performance daily driver ever produced. Unmatched in several areas: Performance Versatility(Drag, Track, Prep, No Prep, Street, Roll, Backroads), Performance gains with basic mods(200hp+200lbs gain with just DPs, intake, & Custom E40 tune), materials, build quality(unlike AMG interior which looks nice but has cheap squeaky plastic pieces), drive-ability+adaptability(Various performance & suspension settings, & AWD to RWD selection, that actually has noticeable changes), practicality(true all season, all weather daily with useable backseat & trunk space), fuel economy(in eco mode can easily get 30+MPG), reliability, value(I know some people will say "how can be it be good value costing 6 figures". What you receive for the $ competes with $300k+ super cars with literally $5k in upgrades. Most cars that perform on this level are perfect weather cars only, little practicality, performance versatility, etc. BMW could charge $140k-$150k for this car and I would still think its decent value at that level.. BMW hit a grand slam with the S58 & combining it with their XDrive. A RWD biased AWD system that still handles & feels like a RWD car in many ways, and if you want a little RWD fun its as simple as pushing a button. The M3/M4CXD are modern marvels of a car and highly recommended for anyone wanting a top of class highly practical performance car. I love my G80CXD so much I actually just ordered a new G82CXD with Carbon Buckets & CCBs to fully build out as a first in class drag, track, & show car. Ive never been a brand loyalist. I grew up on a classic car dealerships surrounded by all types muscle cars, so I liked many different models & brands, but experiencing this marvel of a machine BMW has turned me into a massive supporter of their brand. Even with basic mods-- Downpipes, lighter resonated exhaust, lighter rims + good tires, quality intake, subtle lowering(not slammed, just enough to slightly lower its CoG and reduce body roll a little), & custom 93 Octane tune for daily driving and custom E40 tune for race/track days, and you have a car that not much can compete with on the streets(thats not fully built). If you want to go further, with some engine & trans mods, these are now just after 2 short years already in the low 8's in the 1/4 mile. Which is outstanding. If someone is watching this video and is on the fence about ordering one, DO IT! I promise you wont experience a micro second of buyers remorse. Once you get past the break in period and can experience all it offers, youll be as ecstatic every time you have to drive down the road. Moreover the support Ive received from BMW has always been first class. IN 2022 when I was in the market for a new performance car, I test drove almost every one listed below. When it was done there wasnt anything that ranked as high in all the categories mentioned above. C8, Z06, GT500, GTR, RS3, RS5, RS6, ZL1 1LE, Hellcat Charger Redeye, AMG E63, Alfa R Quadriglio, Blackwing4, Blackwing5 Some platforms had a higher drag ceiling, some had a higher track ceiling, some had more space, but nothing was good in every category. It may not be an Ace of any specific category, but its better than a Jack...... A "King of all trades kind of car".. Now the platform has been out for a couple years, there is a good amount of after market support for the platform, so you can customize it however one wants. Whether thats for drag or track racing, or just cosmetically, so many different quality vendors to choose from no matter what your preferences/objectives may be. Knowing the potential of the S58, and knowing BMW was going to launch a new Hybrid M5, I was hoping BMW would use a tuned S58 instead of the V8 to help reduce the weight. I think BMW could easily release the S58 with 600-620HP + additional Hybrid output. This would have helped take off some of the weight from the hybrid system, which I think would have been the perfect combo for the new M5. I suppose we'll see how its reviewed when its launched.
@user-ec4hp4nz6y
@user-ec4hp4nz6y Ай бұрын
Try Porsche 911. Even in base model, its incredible
@felipepimpao8017
@felipepimpao8017 Ай бұрын
Damn
@ScottsGuitar
@ScottsGuitar Ай бұрын
99% of drivers will never ever see “all that it has to offer” on the track as the m3 is so far beyond the limits of anyone but a highly trained track driver. Heck the m340i limits are beyond what most ppl would ever squeeze out on a track lol. I’m glad to see ppl like you out there really getting the most out of the m3 tho. Most just want a badge so they can have a fancier grocery better.
@clubracer6
@clubracer6 Ай бұрын
If manual is a must,not sure how you could take a G8X over the CT5VBW.
@regal022
@regal022 Ай бұрын
simple, quick answer.... YES the M3 is definitely worth the money
@DVW550
@DVW550 Ай бұрын
M340i for the reasons others have given but also for looks alone. Will never get used to the M3 grille. Just doesn’t work aesthetically.
@Eddy-09
@Eddy-09 Ай бұрын
I’d say daily livability is better in the M340i because of its better low end response for stop and go traffic, much better mpg, and better sound. Plus the B58 has already been proven to be extremely reliable (S58 is also reliable, but still yet to see if it measures up to B58 level). Let’s not forget that with some minor suspension and wheel/tire mods, you can make the M340i very close in track performance. The B58 has also broken more world records and has proven to hold more power than the S58 both stock engine and built.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
B58 FTWWWW...love mine for all the reasons listed here^
@MrCYChung
@MrCYChung Ай бұрын
M3 > M340…. It’s ok if you don’t have one. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Eddy-09
@Eddy-09 Ай бұрын
@@MrCYChung Not if you’re talking records 😂 there’s no M3 in the 7s. That’s why the B58 is the record holding engine for all BMWs and not the S58. That’s also why there’s more stock engine B58s over 900whp and even 1000whp compared to S58.
@jdiaz97
@jdiaz97 Ай бұрын
@@Eddy-09if you plan on making any B58 car over 600hp, youre going to buy a beefier transmission. M3s come with a stronger transmission off the lot. Also the b58 has been out for twice as long as the S58 and the S58 is catching up
@zboogiewitdahoodie3614
@zboogiewitdahoodie3614 Ай бұрын
Don’t listen to these kids 😂 b58 on top
@sixmillbaby
@sixmillbaby Ай бұрын
Finally some honesty from a M340 owner. I really wish Mercedes AMG and BMW MDivision didn’t dilute their brands but I understand why they do it. Look, M-Lite cars are fantastic sporty editions of already exceptional cars BUT they are not the same as a real M car. If you own one, bravo you’re already ahead of the game and you have a sweet ass ride but please stop arguing it’s the same or better. I don’t care what tune, downpipe, midpipe etc. you put on to improve your 1/4 time. You can even paint or wrap your roof to simulate carbon fiber or slap on an oversized CF spoiler from Amazon, it’s just not the same. Purists can appreciate both, but the real ones understand that a real M is greater than the sum of its parts. It’s not about 1/4 times etc.; it is truly the definition of the ultimate driving machine and it cannot be expressed in words or quantified with data, it has to be experienced on a canyon road or on track.
@markjumper5308
@markjumper5308 Ай бұрын
VERY well said!
@jayshanti8659
@jayshanti8659 Ай бұрын
Absolutely correct!
@tsiyon12
@tsiyon12 Ай бұрын
++ on the whole being greater than sum of the parts on ///M cars. The ///M division’s engineers are incredibly talented in this aspect considering the tradeoffs they have to make.
@jones9309
@jones9309 Ай бұрын
If you’re looking for a sports car go M3. If you’re looking to save thousands of dollars, for a daily that you can still have “fun” in and get 30MPG go M340i.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
indeed
@markjumper5308
@markjumper5308 Ай бұрын
Got the '22 M340i xDrive, Spartanburg delivery (GO for it!). Ordered every option (including Michelin Pilot 4S NRFs and oil cooler) except the power trunk lid--HATE power doors. It's now a Dinan car with suspension, strut braces, cold air intake, and quad exhaust. It's my first automatic in 42 years, and it's brilliant, but it still does what IT wants to do--I'd rather have a manual. Could've gotten an M3 with manual tranny for near the same price, but detuned and RWD only. Plus, for professional reasons, I needed something with some degree of subtlety and elegance--wood trim, black metallic paint (with Shadowline), mocha leather--and I just couldn't spec the M3 that way, away from brash boy-racer combos (don't like carbon fiber decor), plus its styling gives it away anyway. I lMUCH like the M340i! The struts and suspension give the steering more responsiveness. The cold air intake and quad exhaust actually smooth out the sport transmission action around town so it isn't so jerky, yet more responsive. I ordered adaptive suspension, but it was decontented during the chip-shortage build, so the ride's a bit stiff. I save the Pilot 4Ss for track days. They have a lot of impact harshness. The Continental all-season DSW Extreme Contacts lose just a touch of turnin sharpness but add LOTS of impact smoothness--well worth it for daily driving. I took the car to VIR and yes, the M3s have it all over this slightly upgraded M340i xDrive. (But for now, the car is way better than I am!) Maybe some chip work later? Re. the LCI, I'm GLAD to have the pre-LCI interior! The binnacle and center screen are BEAUTIFULLY integrated, making the whole dash area into an attractive work of art that's also functional with real but unobtrusive buttons. The LCI dash is UGLY! It looks like someone mated two Dell desktop screens from someone's work cubicle and just dumped the result to perch on top of a formerly beautiful dash--where the screens even need ugly bracing in the back just to stay in place! Sure, these screens do more and have more graphics--but whatever happened to the simple, well-integrated, elegant beauty that BMW has modeled through the years? And buttons--what buttons? (And with computer graphics, why oh why can't we just have the option of round dials?) Then, THE SHIFT LEVER IS GONE--the thing that "falls readily to hand" and in a Bimmer, FITS your hand! I can move the lever by feel, not sight. How will a slide switch EVER perform the needed functions so smoothly and well? No way! This is a big step back in ergonomics. To conclude: is the M3 worth the money? Yes, no doubt. Is it what I need? No, it's a bit much for me in presentation and maintenance. I'm VERY happy in the land of my modded M340i!
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow Ай бұрын
Awesome vid!
@brentgreen8209
@brentgreen8209 Ай бұрын
I took a road trip halfway across the country and got 27-28 mpg in my G80. Hearing 20 mpg was a surprise.
@AP-cc1uw
@AP-cc1uw Ай бұрын
Great review, loving this format. Have already said it, but you guys gotta get a Giulia QV and even just a 2.0T out on this track. I actually went with a 2.0T over an M340i based on chassis tuning and steering and of course the looks. Escalated into a QV which I am picking up this week.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
nice! I just secured the Stelvio QV loan for a few weeks from now so stay tuned for that...no one seems to have a Giulia in a fleet anywhere but we'll keep trying
@AP-cc1uw
@AP-cc1uw Ай бұрын
@@dwnshft Amazing! Maybe when I get the QV I'll have to make the trip so you guys can properly test it.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
@@AP-cc1uw you’re always welcome 👊
@stephenjenner484
@stephenjenner484 Ай бұрын
Wouldn’t the M340i be a better daily long distance car? I have a X3M40i with the B58 and it’s been an incredible vehicle. I just wonder if the true M3 is overkill to drive every day ?
@aaronanderson5500
@aaronanderson5500 22 күн бұрын
Seems like you guys were able to get over that gaping maw a lot easier than I was. Obviously the M3 is the more dynamic vehicle, but then you have to look at it. Would love to see this comparison redone with a few more basic mods on the M340i. I just put lightweight forged wheels and wider tires on mine and it’s a different machine. If tires got you three seconds without changing tire size…
@blkstang4830
@blkstang4830 Ай бұрын
I had a 2020 BMW M340i and loved it. Had to sell it because it was just collecting dust, have a car from work I have to use due to my job. Hoping someday to justify getting a M3.
@Motorlytics
@Motorlytics Ай бұрын
I always say the m lites sound better than the new M cars. I love the F80 generation still. Just perfect ughh wish I got the xdrive in an F80 and the upgraded tech. I believe you can upgrade the regular brakes on the g80 for track use and save the almost 10k from the carbon ceramics I have see plenty of people do it and have no issues. I have got used to the grille over the years, but still wish it was better. great video
@leftlimelight
@leftlimelight 27 күн бұрын
Good comparison video. I traded in my 2023 M340i xdrive for a 2024 M3 competition xdrive and when I'm in efficiency mode and my right foot is light I'm able to get 24 MPG around town which isn't too bad compared to my M340i. I do disagree with with most people's opinion about the grill of the M3 I think it looks great and it does serve a purpose. Also, the Merino leather interior is IMO a bit nicer than the Vernasca leather in the M340i.
@ronalddoggett2604
@ronalddoggett2604 Ай бұрын
39k in two years on my G80 xdrive. I have never and will never consider any 340 over the G80. I am ordering the 2025 ASAP. I don't care about the price "savings".
@jankosiek
@jankosiek Ай бұрын
You mean depreciation is more impactful on 340i?
@ronalddoggett2604
@ronalddoggett2604 Ай бұрын
@@jankosiek No. I mean spending more on the G80 xdrive vs any 340 is worth it. FYI- I put $25k down on my G80, I'm getting that back and putting it down on my new one. So it kinda still saved me money.
@sgeertt4724
@sgeertt4724 Ай бұрын
@@ronalddoggett2604 you are buying a new one because you are basically out of warranty now? How much money are you going to lose by upgrading the years? I hear the 2025 xdrive comp has slightly higher hp and slightly faster times stock too. I have a 2023 g80 comp rwd and I really am considering the xdrive, although I only really use my car for fun :-)
@ronalddoggett2604
@ronalddoggett2604 Ай бұрын
@@sgeertt4724 I traded an RS3 for the G80. The price of cars was insanely high when I purchased the G80 so I used the 25k that I got from the sale of RS3 as my down-payment. Same payment, just new car. I'm an now going to use that same money to get the new model. My current G80 is still under warranty and has zero issues. It is really a great spec. I'm only upgrading because I drive it so much. If you get a G80 the Xdrive is the only way to go. Just my opinion...
@deanbarton1913
@deanbarton1913 Ай бұрын
70k vs 100k
@silvia12319
@silvia12319 Ай бұрын
This guy running cookie cutter tyres on the m340i and expecting the world from it. 😅
@jyzf
@jyzf Ай бұрын
Cope
@atn086
@atn086 Ай бұрын
​@@jyzf that's why no one likes your comment
@BlackwingDuck
@BlackwingDuck Ай бұрын
I just went ahead and got a manual CT5V Blackwing. The true W move.
@aaronanderson5500
@aaronanderson5500 22 күн бұрын
Drove one. Didn’t like it.
@Zeratul199
@Zeratul199 Ай бұрын
Comparing M3 daily livability with the worst options of the M340i is kind of misleading. Obviously the adaptive dampers with normal tyres are going to be way better, so daily ride quality is going to be better in an M340i as long as it's spec'ed better...
@heavenparadise5291
@heavenparadise5291 Ай бұрын
I love the conversation about steering feel because for me that is what makes it more fun when it feels a bit heavier but still fast and sporty. I wouldn’t like a fast car with light steering and numb feeling so for me the M340 is overall a better daily but of course the M3 is more performance oriented
@MajorAddiction
@MajorAddiction Ай бұрын
The style 666m wheels are so good 🤩
@yourpalbobbyboi
@yourpalbobbyboi Ай бұрын
M3 for sure. G80 is very easy to live with.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
yeah i was surprised how compliant it was day-to-day! especially for having "competition" on the back. The X3M could never
@antikytheramechanism7909
@antikytheramechanism7909 Ай бұрын
I don't understand frozen paints, I love polishing the car to a high gloss and it looks far better that way. I despise the M3 Venetian blind, testes shaped grille on the M3. When surrounded by chrome on some other models it totally looks like a pair of testes. The cheap screen is a way for BMW to save millions on designing a binnacle and switchgear, I get it, but I don't like it.
@kriteeq9387
@kriteeq9387 Ай бұрын
i have an m340i so i could be a little bias but having that b58 engine and tuning / modding capability along with reliability and daily driving i will chose the m340i any day!
@Eddy-09
@Eddy-09 Ай бұрын
Nice vid! Would love to see even wider/stickier tires on the M340i + a simple 93 tune to close the power gap vs the M3. Maybe even a slight drop to lower the center of gravity on the M340i. It would get veeerry close to the M3. 225 tires just doesn’t do it on a 58 series engine.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
yeah the 225s are a borderline sin
@Eddy-09
@Eddy-09 Ай бұрын
@@dwnshftyou’re not kidding, and I just realized you have run flats..? You would be shocked to see the difference it makes when you go from narrow run flats to wider non run flats such as PS4s.. I did on my M340i and wow.. it reacts quicker to steering feedback, has much better grip, and much more comfortable ride. I think the M340i sounds way better, has better low end response, but the M3 has better top end with its bigger stock turbos and higher boost stock. It would be fair to compare it with a stage 1 tune on the M340i.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
@@Eddy-09 for sure - and the Kumhos that I put on a couple videos ago aren’t run flats and they’re much better
@goodtimes8518
@goodtimes8518 Ай бұрын
M340i aulitzky with 515hp did 8.75sec 100-200 on dragy a stock m3 Comp did 8sec flat all day long you will need more than a simple tune to come even close
@Eddy-09
@Eddy-09 Ай бұрын
@@goodtimes8518 I already gapped an M3 comp multiple times with just a downpipe and simple ots tune in my M340ix.
@SamT-rf1dx
@SamT-rf1dx Ай бұрын
I think the difference would be a lot smaller if the tires were same on both cars.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
You make a very solid point
@SE-dn7xl
@SE-dn7xl Ай бұрын
You think wrong
@duffydon1741
@duffydon1741 Ай бұрын
@@SE-dn7xlyes you do!!
@jyzf
@jyzf Ай бұрын
Cope
@Eddy-09
@Eddy-09 Ай бұрын
Absolutely right. The gap would be much smaller at that point.
@realitycheck469
@realitycheck469 Ай бұрын
If I had to choose between the M3 and M340i, it’s the M2 all day. I wanted to love the new M3. But what kills it for me are its ungainly proportions (just too big and awkward) and the Pep Boys fake air vents on the front fenders. F80 was the most beautiful and proportional M3, IMHO.
@realitycheck469
@realitycheck469 Ай бұрын
By the way, I’ve even grown to like the front grille on the M3.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
F80 is sooooooo good looking 😍
@rahul--12
@rahul--12 Ай бұрын
how did the M340 exhaust sound soooo much better than the M3's?? Are they both stock? Also I love the fjord blue -- unfortunately I could not get it in my M3 Comp (settled for Yas Marina blue).
@adopecombination8188
@adopecombination8188 14 күн бұрын
B58 sounds better than S55
@fatcatattack
@fatcatattack Ай бұрын
I’d love to own either one eventually
@bmwt4k
@bmwt4k Ай бұрын
M cars are better and anyone who says otherwise didn't spend the money to actually verify this Lmao. I have both cars and there isn't a single situation where I run to drive the M340 over the M3 outside of unbearably bad roads (NYC). If I was in Florida we would get rid of our M340i. Does everyone need an iPhone pro max? No, but people still buy that over the base iPhone, they accomplish virtually the same tasks but one just has a bit more refinement.
@aryansaple7865
@aryansaple7865 Ай бұрын
Yeah I tried both out but I got the M440i mostly cause of the unbearably bad roads around NY/NJ area. I also dont need that kind of power in back to back traffic so yeah.
@brandongarcia7229
@brandongarcia7229 Ай бұрын
I literally chose the the M340i and the 14 pro max over the M3 and 15 pro max and I can afford both. Sometimes you just like money and looks of the product better than being able to turn a corner a tiny faster lol
@Nyx_88888
@Nyx_88888 Ай бұрын
can't compare the 340 steel brakes and m3 steel brakes, the ceramics won't feel much" better" than the steels and will require more heat but they are good for high speed runs and not fading, but people who track a lot actually use the steels
@FrankW1029
@FrankW1029 Ай бұрын
one of the main reason people use steels on track is mainly due to cost. i've had friends with R35 GTR that swap out the ceramic for steel for track use simply because it is cheaper to replace. ceramic brakes are great, but in reality not a whole lot of people want to pay for replacement.
@wxstar9722
@wxstar9722 Ай бұрын
The M340i in the video is only rear wheel drive and has a square tire setup. It would feel different if you had m340i Xdrive with staggered wheels on Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. This setup comparison would be a much close comparison to the M3 Competition with the Xdrive with staggered tires setup and with the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
Wild cuz the m340 is xDrive
@jankosiek
@jankosiek Ай бұрын
15:30 I didn’t catch that, so which of the seats are the best in terms of seating comfort? The non carbon fibre seats in the m3? Are these not the same as in the m340i?
@brentgreen8209
@brentgreen8209 Ай бұрын
The standard seats in the M3 are the most comfortable. The leather is far better in the M in the USA, but I think that varies by region. The buckets are great but they are a compromise imo.
@steadybreeze1443
@steadybreeze1443 Ай бұрын
The best value is the M340 The chassis bracing and suspension /tires could be upgraded .. have you seen the engine bracing on all Mcars .. M3 has significantly stiffened the chassis with bracing.. The B58 and M340 is best sounding and could be best hidden gem.. I sold them and It is a gem imagine adding CSL engine bracing and suspension
@Love2Cruise
@Love2Cruise Ай бұрын
You got your blinker on because your hands were moving around the steering wheel, instead of holding them steady at 9 & 3.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
Gotta go hand over hand in the hairpin mate
@jyzf
@jyzf Ай бұрын
I love how people are complaining about the tires. Yeah change the tires not the suspension right? Tires won’t make a huge difference to how it performed on the track. If they both have summer performance tires they should be performing. It’s also the driver not just the vehicle. As an M4 owner though I expect nothing less. I personally dislike m-lite cars, I say save and get an M. Yeah you can push a B58, but you can really push an S58.
@littletedsplayschool2525
@littletedsplayschool2525 Ай бұрын
Having owned the latest 340i and now I have the G81 sorry yanks you don’t get it. The 340 is probably the sweet spot for BMWs mega fuel economy fast and a great package, but if you have the cash get the M diff beast. Fuel wise 340 if taken easy motorway can return mid 40s m3 mid 30 think best I’ve had is 37mpg. My only negative on the 340 is it looks a bit meh and I never wanted to wash it. The amount of comments I get about the G81 amazes me
@supersportlt1
@supersportlt1 Ай бұрын
M340 for me. The price difference between the 2 doesn’t justify the street performance for me from the M3.
@maximusEagle
@maximusEagle 22 күн бұрын
F80 S55 M3 Still the Best ever made 👍
@FrankW1029
@FrankW1029 Ай бұрын
coming from a G30 lci 540i to a G80 M3C. is it overpriced? yes. it is worth it? hell yes.
@Ty420
@Ty420 Ай бұрын
If the M3 had the M340i grill it would be the best looking sedan of all time imo
@carbonoxx
@carbonoxx Ай бұрын
m340i is more comfort on the street, not on track, were bumpy rides are everywhere...... if u buy a m3 and never track is a waste........thats when u get the m340i for daily..........is like buying a 4x4 and u never go offroad!!!
@dwaynebolan2583
@dwaynebolan2583 Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🔥🔥 🔥 Next video F80 vs G80? 👀
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
Now there’s something 😈
@Rana_shaikh
@Rana_shaikh 2 күн бұрын
Which car has a higher ground clearance?
@kingmusa8618
@kingmusa8618 Ай бұрын
M340 is a beast sounds better looks better upfront but can’t compare to the M3 performance wise stock and the rear end on the m3 is just better executed looks more aggressive and come with better wheels
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
mmmmhmmmmmm
@CallumRoberts17
@CallumRoberts17 Ай бұрын
M-Cars have a feel that none M-cars don’t have. That costs money.
@GunsNBudder
@GunsNBudder 10 күн бұрын
Why is there no stick offered in the m340i? I looked for one but can;t find any. I assume they weren't made.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft 10 күн бұрын
There are none
@ms3ben
@ms3ben 6 күн бұрын
B58 sounds better imo. More usable low-end torque/response for around town and daily driver. The m340i also has a more compliant ride quality. I found the M3 ride to be a bit harsh over bumps and road imperfections for daily driving. Im still am not a fan of the M3 front grill, either.
@JayAllDayM3
@JayAllDayM3 7 күн бұрын
Carbon fiber CSL grill, some more carbon fiber like front lip, side skirts.. really transform the G80. Also height adjustable lowering springs really transform the looks and handling.. way too much front tire gap and body roll stock. Springs fixed everything
@duffydon1741
@duffydon1741 Ай бұрын
Who can help me understand why the B58 sounds nicer than the S58, would this have impact on performance? Like why wouldn’t the M3 sound exactly like the 340i?? Why wouldn’t the M5/6/8 sound exactly like the m850i??? and still deliver the same performance, the M5/6/8 only miss the m850i tone and the M3/4 only miss the m340i face and engine tone, then you have perfect performance cars!!
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 Ай бұрын
Different exhaust setup.
@OneTwoThreePunch
@OneTwoThreePunch Ай бұрын
The B58 is a twin scroll turbo, S58 is a twin turbo , the exhaust manifold has 3 cylinders running running each turbo.
@cokemachine62590
@cokemachine62590 Ай бұрын
You prefer the aftermarket exhaust on the m340 over the stock exhaust on the m3? *shocked face*
@jermainen7846
@jermainen7846 29 күн бұрын
It wasn't always like this. The previous generations genuinely were easier to live with in a M240i or M235i. BMW have clearly sorted out the stiff suspension.
@efthimios
@efthimios 27 күн бұрын
As a e90 335 owner that I love- always wanted a m340 but seeing how many people buying them, I will buy an. M3 just to remind m340 owners they do t have the real M 😊- they are both different cars engines suspension everything
@micahandme8078
@micahandme8078 27 күн бұрын
just picked up my M340iX. What a sick ass car. Unfreaking real how fun it is. I can't put it in the garage.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft 25 күн бұрын
have fun! i 'm loving mine too!
@miscvids5778
@miscvids5778 Ай бұрын
Personally, I think the M340i looks better. If I could have either right now, I’d go with an M340i to get all the aspects of performance and comfort for daily commute and do a down pipe, drop in intake and a tune and call it a day
@mitnickmitnick1378
@mitnickmitnick1378 Ай бұрын
It shouldn't be a question.... at all.
@stahusstu9721
@stahusstu9721 28 күн бұрын
I was looking for good fun Daily. I really want m4 buuuuut the face. I tried convince myself that it looks great but in the end I choosed m340i 😅 for the Street only in EU is as good as the m3 but it looks much better
@jarfrobinksss
@jarfrobinksss Ай бұрын
Sounds like from the preview of him screaming "what a machine" to the M3, it IS worth the money ;)
@hectoralfonso2965
@hectoralfonso2965 24 күн бұрын
The gap in sound performance is huge. M340i is like a sound of the hell
@huntermiller7695
@huntermiller7695 20 күн бұрын
Had the m3 comp xdrive for 2 years now and yes yes it is worth the money.
@bjdunne5113
@bjdunne5113 Ай бұрын
Interesting they made the 340 exhaust louder
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
courtesy of AWE
@ashok845
@ashok845 28 күн бұрын
This comparison is only to comfort people who are not able to stretch their budget for M3 but truth be told M3 is just at another level.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft 28 күн бұрын
that's literally what we said in the video...
@sirgeel5094
@sirgeel5094 Ай бұрын
I would get a M car but the insurance is crazy!!!i really can't justify insurance being as much as a car payment
@Cynical496
@Cynical496 Ай бұрын
German ceos to designers are just like: “bIgGeR NoSe.”
@huzaifavawda8383
@huzaifavawda8383 Ай бұрын
Depends what you want in a car, both are amazing but both are way too heavy to have track fun to be fair
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
i disgree. you can still have fun
@huzaifavawda8383
@huzaifavawda8383 Ай бұрын
@@dwnshft no one doubts that but your tyres and your brakes will hate you. Multiple laps youd probably lose a lot of pace
@PorkchopExpression
@PorkchopExpression 13 күн бұрын
That front end is a deal breaker on the M3. BMW will go back to a tasteful version in the future.
@tobi_dg
@tobi_dg Ай бұрын
I didn’t catch if this was the M3 xDrive?
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
yes, both cars xDrive
@LaserB5S4
@LaserB5S4 Ай бұрын
The immediate screaming when in the m3 😂
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
Lololol authentic
@marvinzhang3734
@marvinzhang3734 29 күн бұрын
As a 340i owner, I would say. Go for m3
@gokuvegeta179
@gokuvegeta179 Ай бұрын
M3: 20-30 yrs from now, still look awesome M340i: 20-30 yrs will still be just another 3 series
@HittinyaWitDaTruth
@HittinyaWitDaTruth Ай бұрын
What does that say about your Kia then?
@gokuvegeta179
@gokuvegeta179 Ай бұрын
@@HittinyaWitDaTruth still another kia?
@gokuvegeta179
@gokuvegeta179 Ай бұрын
I have nothing against these two cars as they are both diff animal. I own an F80 comp and love it that's just me! But it does look awesome even now. Just buy what you feel is right for you and be done!
@jaworq
@jaworq Ай бұрын
M3 = track, m340i = comfy daily
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
M3 also works as a surprisingly comfy daily
@jaworq
@jaworq Ай бұрын
@@dwnshft on your roads maybe yes. Not every country has such good roads as USA ;)
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
@@jaworq fair 😅
@surfertheowner
@surfertheowner Ай бұрын
I have M4C LCI in Poland with carbon seats and I am happy
@Ty420
@Ty420 Ай бұрын
M340i daily and M3 for car meets and races ❤
@sleezyoho
@sleezyoho Ай бұрын
why the f would you swap the fronts? that m3 grill for me, is the best looking area
@tylermachowski1755
@tylermachowski1755 Ай бұрын
Is that a lot of under steer or am I tripping?
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
Some, sure but I wouldn’t say a lot. I’m probably overdriving the front end on corner entry, more on the 340 since the brakes weren’t as good
@allbrightallday
@allbrightallday Ай бұрын
If I had the money, I’m going with the M3. Unpopular opinion…the M340 looks cooler.
@dominicancash
@dominicancash Ай бұрын
The is no comparison from suspension, brakes , engine power Stop this bs.
@frantotti9754
@frantotti9754 Ай бұрын
We are same same, same same but different, but still same . 🤣
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
Lololol
@Poppingsboi
@Poppingsboi Ай бұрын
For the looks alone m3.. everything else considering its m3 for me over anything even c63s
@janosszocs148
@janosszocs148 Ай бұрын
Better take the M440i Gran Coupe, has wider tyre on the front, and wider axle on the front and the back, than the M340i.
@DRose2Fast
@DRose2Fast Ай бұрын
No its not worth it.
@layne4376
@layne4376 Ай бұрын
I have an M340 and it’s comfortable and fast. But its handling isn’t in the sports car realm, the steering has zero feedback, and it’s heavy.
@dwnshft
@dwnshft Ай бұрын
The m3 has 0 feedback and is light 🤷‍♂️
@layne4376
@layne4376 Ай бұрын
@@dwnshft Caddy ATS - V Blackwing is the one to get.
@annenominous7220
@annenominous7220 19 күн бұрын
fasxtest M car is 2025 M4x. Much harsher daily than the 2025 M440x. I have the M4x, my wife opted for the Audi S5 :) the ride on the audi is amazing, but i just wanted the M4x. I am old now, so i buy what i want. My Bently is cushy when i need cushy.
@szymonpogorzelski
@szymonpogorzelski Ай бұрын
I don't agree. I have both cars and is not possible to say one is better then other. m3 is more on track and fun on the road also daily but m340i is better as a horse. With trailer hitch, auxiliary heating, softer seats and suspension, quiter engine and exhaust, mild hybrid - higher torque low rev, longer range with eco pro is much better for long trips in wild places with higher suspension without engine oil cooler. that's why I keep both. M3 is brutal, loud and you can feel every small hole on the road or all the time engine vibrations. fun starts from 3500rpms. its not like m550i and m5 when m5 its just better in every aspect. I made for a short term 460ps and 750nm in m340 with box and E25 and m3 xdrive was behind me 0-60 km/h but I don't want to destroy this car that's why I bouth m3c xdrive.
@wrends
@wrends Ай бұрын
hey guys, check out how tyres on 340i are so narrow...chicken legs....
@LivinwithPat
@LivinwithPat Ай бұрын
wdhm by mack pockets bmw m340i
@Great_America
@Great_America Ай бұрын
Of course it’s a big difference and almost $30K more 😮
@Domepeezy
@Domepeezy Ай бұрын
M3 is worth the money the 340 isn’t just get a 330 better than you’d expect
@johngabucci
@johngabucci Ай бұрын
Yes.
@nickolas1711
@nickolas1711 Ай бұрын
Kinda unfair comparing an xdrive M3 to a rear wheel m340i
@Abquattro
@Abquattro Ай бұрын
M3 better in every way only reason to buy an m340 over it is if you don’t care about the performance
@Abquattro
@Abquattro Ай бұрын
And b58 not fw s58 motor
@sltho
@sltho Ай бұрын
Nice pronunciation on kumho. Say it again but w a G. And you can shorten the hoe part to ho. I’m ordering an m340i and can’t wait!!!
@PParallax
@PParallax Ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥
@SeanD2937
@SeanD2937 Ай бұрын
Why did BMW even added an “M” on the 340i? Its bad marketing that produced an army of wanna be’s
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