As a non video person, very useful info, you really do learn something new every day, thanks.
@waynegoldpig2220 Жыл бұрын
It's actually incorrect.
@KrisCortez5 жыл бұрын
Shutter speed: Do the math Shutter angle: Camera does the math
@andreasholmm5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha lmao oo
@RobotronSage5 жыл бұрын
if you can't do the math then you don't deserve a camera imo (lol)
@fullframevisuals5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but this makes it sound like it's about lazyness and convenience, whereas it's really about efficiency and prevention of easily preventable mistakes.
@TheJaimexxd5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha lmao
@StellarAudyssey5 жыл бұрын
Camera does the math *AND* changes the shutter speed for you
@REZrblde5 жыл бұрын
This is why doing video is sometimes difficult. Normally we use 180° shutter angle,stuck with the shutter speed. Only variables are ISO and aperture. Thats why ND filters are such a darling for making videos.
@alvareo925 жыл бұрын
Matter Graffika and when shooting with film, not even the ISO is variable!
@eggydrums5 жыл бұрын
Been shooting so much outside that I had to buy an ND. A necessary investment!
@GRIANMEDIA5 жыл бұрын
What is a good ND filter for an expensive 24 70 2.8 ? I'm stuck wondering if on ND is all I need or multiple ? Also don't want to put cheap filter in an expensive lense.
@W93h3753mwesley5 жыл бұрын
@@GRIANMEDIA I use the Hoya 77mm. Its variable. I got the biggest filter thread size for any lens I have. Then bought step up rings for the lenses that have smaller threads. So you dont have to buy a filter for each lens. Unless you use Non variable NDs. The you'll have to get the strengths you need. But I would still apply the same idea. Get a bigger filter thread then use step up rings. Breakthrough photography has some nice NDs . Never tested but I heard the peter McKinnon ND is good.
@GRIANMEDIA5 жыл бұрын
@@W93h3753mwesley Thank you for the info. I will check the variable. I'm still not familiar with the density and the stops. That was my main question.
@tuomas_h5 жыл бұрын
The intro reminded me of one of the things I love about the Nikon Z 6: I have saved separate "normal" (M) and "slo-mo" (U3) modes to the mode dial, and they automatically recall the appropriate shutter speeds and framerates for each.
@xmlthegreat5 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah that's one way to get around having to do the math everytime!
@KevinStCroix5 жыл бұрын
OMG! The opening is priceless 😂😂
@AlvinHerp5 жыл бұрын
0:46 when you're a split second from slapping your camera and you realize you're broke af and can't afford to fix it afterwards
@HeyHerdy5 жыл бұрын
Every time!
@jackychung8195 жыл бұрын
That's so true
@AutoWerkMedia5 жыл бұрын
I've been watching you guys since The Camera Store days and really appreciate how you guys break things down to an easily understandable level. I'm still struggling with my transition from photo to video and being able to grasp the WHY behind stuff like this makes it a lot easier. No one likes to math...and of course it's faster with experience, but it still takes time and is easy to miss a step. Hopefully the 180d menu will eventually find its way to the G9. Thanks guys!
@MattAlan015 жыл бұрын
Even when the videos don't provide me with new information, I still watch just for these two.
@clintcompose5 жыл бұрын
Or just set up custom presets for each mode. Life saver 🔥
@RobotronSage5 жыл бұрын
that's not a bad idea at all
@Soundwave8572 ай бұрын
thiss so much, it will even save more than just fps and shutterspeed. it will also safe all the other stuff
@swaroopsankarsivadasan5 жыл бұрын
Damn, shutter angle😱 hearing for the first time. Thanks Chris and Jord for the informative video. You guys rocks. 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
@johnnysparkleface30965 жыл бұрын
Some of this doesn't make sense to me. I've never heard of shutter angle either.
@yosimizrachi73 жыл бұрын
Hobbyist here - Just bought a Panasonic Lumix S5 and got here to learn about shutter angles and I had to leave this comment to say thank you! Now I'm using shutter angles instead of speed and I also learned how to use it to create different creative scenes life the fighting scenes. Thanks guys!
@JamesCohenCaravan4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Sigma FP and was going crazy trying to find the shutter speed in the menus, and now I see why I cannot find it. It offers shutter angle in the quick menu! Thank you! This was a FANTASTIC tutorial!
@KarlRock Жыл бұрын
Incredible. That’ll save me time. Thanks!
@dejayrezme86175 жыл бұрын
I'm for shutter percentage :D I can imagine that computational videography might improve these looks actually by scanning a low resolution 8MP sensor and averaging / combinging the individual frames at much higher framerates while at the same time doing digital image stabilization. But you could average the motion blur in a more gauss distribution curve to have a more even motion. Instead of having 180° you'd have 360° shutter speeds but with the ends blending into each other. No idea how that would look but I'd be curious. The big bang would be that you can replace optical stabilization with digital stabilization and maybe also improve image noise / resolution.
@StephanWiesner5 жыл бұрын
I just put my normal and slow motions settings to C1, C2, C3 (on the GH5)
@ashyxt5 жыл бұрын
hi sir, if I were to slow down all my 50fps shots to 25fps anyway, should I shoot at 1/50 or 1/100 to get 180degree shutter effect?
@faishalf1.45 жыл бұрын
@@ashyxt obviously 1/100.
@vallejopnw3 жыл бұрын
Gh5 for the win 💯 did the same
@MaikKellerhals2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's good to invest some time and set your presets (and configure your fn buttons), makes shooting so much simpler.
@autodidact-d3 жыл бұрын
THE BEST INTRO TO SHUTTER SPEED FOR VIDEO SHOOTERS. fellas you nailed it very well done, kudos!
@1chiTheKiller2 жыл бұрын
As someone who just got their first cinema camera, all of this is insanely helpful to get me started in learning how to correctly use these new features that my old camera didn't have.
@dasu54365 жыл бұрын
Open a petition for me to sign. This should be standard. Thanks for that video!
@XavierMeza-jq4rs2 жыл бұрын
so i was actually watching another video explaining this and i seen your thumbnail and IMMEDIATELY clicked on your video lol you guys explain it SO WELL and make it so EASY to understand. i couldn't believe i forgot to think of you guys first when i started to look this up lol shame on me
@cameralabs5 жыл бұрын
Very nicely demonstrated and illustrated!
@JoeLewis144 ай бұрын
Great video. Switching to shutter angle has saved my tail many times. You can handle accidentally bumping shutter angle, but giant changes in shutter speed will ruin a shoot.
@jasonkune86355 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I'm smiling each time Chris and Jordan represent educational video like this. It's like I'm getting an answered to all the curiousity about how video works. Thank you so much.
@johnbuckingham68952 жыл бұрын
Jordan's meltdown in the opening is hilarious. (And also completely relatable.)
@sunsetchasers5815 жыл бұрын
Another positive I’ve found since using shutter angle the last year or so is that it’s more precise at dialing out flicker from cheap led fixtures you find in peoples houses or businesses these days. I try to replace stuff with real practicals when I can, but it’s not always practical lol. 172.8 degrees is magic on my Phillips hue bulbs at the house.
@hakeem-ji5 жыл бұрын
Very well explained Chris, and very well done with your cardboard wheel. Cheers,
@CharlesVeitch Жыл бұрын
This video was so necessary Thank you friends
@Ranger7Studios5 жыл бұрын
I have Shutter Angle on my BMPCC 4K and I don't think I ever want to go back. It's just a much quicker method then having to stop and do math and then surf through all the menus to get the right setting you want. Great video!
@rickbrewis5254 жыл бұрын
Literally the first video I’ve found that explains this in a way I can actually understand! Great job!
@jknvornebАй бұрын
Very well presented and delivered information. Well done!
@randomgeocacher5 жыл бұрын
360d (expose the entire cycle) have specific use-cases, for example 25fps filming a rotating fire wheel at a fire show. At 180d or lower, you get weird choppy frames where randomly the fire jumps around. At 360d, you get a wheel of fire. I’m a bit inclined to believing that if you at the higher frame rates you shoot at, the less concerned you should be with the 180d rule; never forget it is a Hollywood rule for shooting drama at 24fps, not necessarily a great rule for other conditions.
@cheeeeezewizzz5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Shooting at 60p using a 360 degree shutter would give motion more similar to a 180 degree shutter on 24p. At 120p or faster there are so many frames I doubt the shutter speed matters at all.
@chrisogrady284 жыл бұрын
Joshua Son yes this, IMO 360d 60fps is the best looking video possible, no missing data, satisfying amount of blur.
@misha44222 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation. Not being a video shooter, I kept thinking “shutter angle,” huh??? Now I have tool, I might even know how to use, like just setting it to 180 and forgetting about it.
@98JamesNixon5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s also important for beginners to know they can break this rule when needed. For example the other day I was on set making a short documentary and one of my lenses didn’t have an ND filter on, so I had to overcrank the shutter speed to 90 degrees or even 45. I don’t like doing it but sometimes it’s better to get the shot then to not get it because I’m screwing an ND filter in, most of the time it’s only noticeable on lots of movement. Some shooters I have worked with don’t even own an ND filter and just overcrank the shutter all the time! Don’t think i could do that!
@PhilipDSouza Жыл бұрын
Great I have to increase shutter speeds for birds video. Because I also take photos with the same camera, and have to immediately change to video. If I dare to now put an ND filter the bird will not wait for that... so just crank up the shutter
@gottanikoncamera5 жыл бұрын
I had no idea my X-T3 could be set to shutter angles! I’m going to have to dive in deeper into my manual to figure this out. Thank you.
@GoProActions5 жыл бұрын
The xt3 is able to do that?
@gottanikoncamera5 жыл бұрын
Still can’t figure out how they got their X-T3 to do that. I’ve been through all my menus twice. I’m thinking their editor got sloppy and erroneously used X-T3 footage instead of GH5 clips.
@KonstantinGabriel19785 жыл бұрын
My head is still turning. Non video guy over here too. But this is actually a nudge in the right direction to try something new. Love your stile of teaching/explaining. Keep it up. Thanks for the new info
@PLOSHTIC3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Just got a cine camera and I had no idea why my "Shutter Speed" was making my image darker as I lowered it. Makes sense now!
@yannl.35302 жыл бұрын
Thanks, at last a clear & fun tutorial about angles !
@lindseyrecanati80804 жыл бұрын
wow, just stepped in the Panasonic world with my new S1H and i have to say, this video was super helpful !!!!! thanks for this great tip!!!!
@Raychristofer5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this refresher course but it seems I need to refresh myself every few months so as not to get a headache LOL. Also one thing to keep in mind is as you Pan the camera from a shadow area to a sunlit area it's very difficult to maintain that shutter angle if not impossible at that point a variable ND filter can help although they introduce other problems
@MartianCitizen3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this mini course on shutter angle. We on the home world learned a lot. Shhhhh, don't tell anyone...lol. As always, keep up the good work and keep'em flying.
@RadoslavSharapanov5 жыл бұрын
Good explanation providing you have an ND filter to control exposure/aperture...
@chrisalexander24782 жыл бұрын
This is a really helpful video. Since this video came out a couple of years ago every time someone approaches me about video and shutter speed I link them to this. I looked it back up today to send it to someone else, and I thought it was long overdue for me to tell you guys well done and thanks. :)
@MoonbearDiedHere3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for refreshing my memory on why I even have my GH5 set to shutter angle
@samjarmin4 жыл бұрын
i needed to understand the difference between the two as i have the blackmagic 4k and want to start my first short. normally you have to watch a couple of videos to make it stick or to answer other questions you might have. i dont need to watch anything else after this, the video completely explained it out in simple terms. the shutter angle model helped. great video and condensed to keep the most important stuff in.
@IsraelAgyemanPrempeh4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, everyone just says make shutter twice your frame rate without explaining why
@rogerhuston82875 жыл бұрын
Wish more camera's used Shutter Angle - Here's looking at you Sony.
@unverifiedbiotic3 жыл бұрын
That shit's a premium feature, along with preview when outputting 4k via hdmi, touch focus in the remote app and a lot of other ridiculous stuff.
@stephensoraci97945 жыл бұрын
I watch all your reviews. I like that you give a photography perspective as well as video. With that said I have to tell you. Every episode or video opening with : "This video was shot on the Panosonic GH5" says alot about any product you review and the awesomeness of the mighty GH5. Lol
@reecemcdaniel82072 жыл бұрын
So great, I recently starting using a Panasonic S1 on a production shoot and I was so confused!
@STONEDECISION5 жыл бұрын
Hey I haven’t seen a video from you guys in a while. Good to see you again
@dpreview5 жыл бұрын
Chris and Jordan make two a week, be sure to subscribe!
@tma200111 ай бұрын
so essentially the use of an intervalometer for video - framerate as the interval between frame readout/presentation and the exposure time expressed anachronistically as a fraction of the framerate from 0 to 360. An explicit percentage would make better sense in the digital age.
@MuhammadKharismawan5 жыл бұрын
Weirdly enough, I am stumbling on this video because a smartphone included the option in their app, but Sony Xperia 1's Cinema Pro app, the CineAlta team added shutter angle rather than shutter speed in it.
@PathLessPedaledTV5 жыл бұрын
That's the best explanation I've heard. Shutter angle = no more maths. I'm sold :)
@FlyWithMe-gx1sr3 ай бұрын
perfect explained, thank you very much 🙂
@NL0Gwenster4 жыл бұрын
I just got a Sony Xperia 1 MK2 a few weeks ago and the cinemapro app that comes with it only lets you adjust stuff in shutter angles. I remembered watching this video a year ago so i looked it up again. Thanks for the explanation !!
@csinghvirk4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Chris! I've been learning from you for years, Thank You!
@LOWFUEL3 жыл бұрын
Stunning explanation! I am pretty sure this will allow me to enhance my "calm rotor effect" !
@dennismenace41885 жыл бұрын
That awesome red glowing ear back-light is incredible.
@psynuxx Жыл бұрын
I have a spinning wheel in my head, it seems to change to 360 degrees after a few beers. Thanks for helping me understand why!
@andywhiteing3 жыл бұрын
Best intro to a video EVER!
@gregheadley64505 жыл бұрын
32K and counting, you did way better than 10,000 Chris!
@PhotoGearFun5 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. Chris that visual of the shutter angles was great. Keep up the good work.
@lancechinnian40435 жыл бұрын
Didn't understand a word of that, but you guys are infinitely watchable (especially Chris) x
@pdcorlis6 ай бұрын
Thank God for DPReview!
@CallMeChato5 жыл бұрын
I used to be religious about doubling the shutter speed in relation to fps but there have been times that I've set my G9 (which does not have shutter angle adjustment) to aperture priority and just let the camera adjust the shutter speed with no apparent issues doing wild vlogging. I would never do that in a real shoot, but it always amazes me that it works. How come?
@PeterGregg5 жыл бұрын
Chris and Jordan - always appreciated, thank you :)
@thatjordandrake5 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend!
@laurencegrant28823 жыл бұрын
Just come across your video. Opening... so funny. I have a Fuji and thought that was me!! Thanks for explaining. I have new Canon C70 (first canon and first cine) so I didnt understand angle so I set to Speed. Will now change to ANGLE !!!
@laurencegrant28823 жыл бұрын
Am I right? @25fps, 360o speed will be 1/25. 180o speed with be 1/50. Angle 90o speed will be 1/100. But best to stay with 180o for double?
@rochditidjani5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I knew about shutter angle in analog film but I never knew about its use with a digital camera. Thanks for clearing that out with excellent footage examples.
@Joker5665jn5 жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation. I wasn't even aware some cameras had the option to auto set the shutter angle. On my A7iii I have the Video Mode set to 24fps 4K with a 1/50 shutter speed, Memory 1 set to 60fps 1080 with a 1/120 shutter speed and Memory 2 set to 120fps 1080 with a 1/240 shutter speed. If you don't have an interest in shooting anything other than with a 180 degree shutter, which I don't, it's a simple switch of the dial to go from 24fps to a higher frame rate and have everything be ready to go.
@shito4k4 жыл бұрын
U killed the intro well done🙌
@a.i.dimmer46165 жыл бұрын
Jordan throwing tantrums.Great info,im not aware of this level of tech stuff in a camera till now...good job guys!
@SamBorgman3 жыл бұрын
So the only difference in film and digital is that digital uses on/off cycles in the sensor? And how would you decide the speed of rotation for the old spinning shutter? How fast would it need to be and how is it set? Kinda confused on some things.
@SteveRockstein24 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was confused about shutter angle. This was a perfect explainer. Just wondering... who are the 93 people who gave this a thumbs down? Really people?
@tomgosy4 жыл бұрын
I understood very little of this... but it looked great!
@EditorBreakdown Жыл бұрын
Somebody finally explained it in SIMPLE
@Woodenarrows5 жыл бұрын
Very informative video Chris, thanks so much for educating us out here... Oh, and your DIY props were a big help in visualizing your discussion...
@AbhishekSingh-rj2we4 жыл бұрын
DPR you rock man! this is the best explaination, have been looking for this for sometime
@dep10015 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! I’m a GH5 and A7iii shooter. I hope Sony will have the option to set the shutter angle as well. I wonder if that can be done via firmware?
@mygconsultingyou5 жыл бұрын
I really liked the in-depth explanation. I will share this with fellow film and photo students.
@snowwalker99995 жыл бұрын
Another excellent tutorial. It helps you choose your camera in the future if the video is your thing. This is no attack on those 13 individuals who clicked dislike. I am just wondering if they had a better explanation or something else to add to this great educational video.
@gorbunovvv5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this will not always work well. If you're in 60 Hz region, than shooting at 1/50 s (if you're at 24p) will lead to light flickering in certain cases. So you'll want 1/60 s. And vice versa, if shooting 30p in 50 Hz region (e.g. for reduced rolling shutter), you'll want 1/50 s, not 1/60 s. BTW, a big video about rolling shutter would be highly appreciated!
@billwdwc2 жыл бұрын
LOL The beginning of this video made me laugh out loud. Thanks
@karlneilson13163 жыл бұрын
Another great video guys, loved the analogue explanation. I get shutter angle now
@AVISIONMUSICTV2 жыл бұрын
What is a good way to get rid of digital banding? For example. In this video at 4:42 there is banding in the background? Is it merely youtube compression? does bumping up the bitrate help?
@RCwithAdam13 жыл бұрын
That intro is so relatable! 😂
@HarkohFilm Жыл бұрын
On the Sony FX6, nad probably many other cameras, there is also an option to have 'no shutter'; what is the effect of that and how does it relate to your explanation?
@mpq19692 жыл бұрын
So shooting the GH5 at night, or low light conditions, where LED lights are being used, the question I have is that I am getting the scrolling black bars. This happens even at 180D (shooting 24 fps). Should I increase from 180 to something higher or switch out of angle mode and manually change the SS until the bars go away?
@chromatic_times10 ай бұрын
The intro made the whole video just so much better 😂😂
@skygarden Жыл бұрын
long-time question that's always bugged me: how does the fact that the shutter disc has a wider opening on one side than the other due to the radial edges - how does that affect the evenness of exposure? seems like the side of the film towards the axis would get less light than the outer edge - oh, but the film is moving, so is it timed so that the radial edges of the exposed area somehow align with the top and bottom edges of the film so the film frame never 'knows' that it's a wedge-shaped field of exposure? who knows what i'm talking about and can link an animated visual example to make this make sense please?
@dave.mac.d5 жыл бұрын
On my G7 and GX85 I have the "C" on my mode dial set to 60fps and 125 shutter speed and it's only one spot away from manual video mode, so it's quite easy to switch back and forth from 24 and 60fps.
@PeteC625 жыл бұрын
I just don't get this argument. The reason the blur at 24fps, 180deg looks "natural" is *because* the exposure is 1/48, leading to the "natural" amount of motion blur. If I change my shutter speed to 60fps and leave the angle at 180deg, my exposure is now 1/120, leading to much less motion blur and tending toward the "hyper realistic" look you mentioned with the very short exposures. What I really want to do is leave the exposure at 1/48 to get the same level of motion blur - which I can't of course because that's slower than the frame rate, so I'd set to 1/60 instead, which is now a 360 deg angle. Why would 180deg look better than 360deg in this case? It's as if you're saying it's the angle that _makes_ the "look", but surely it isn't, it's the shutter speed, derived from the frame rate *and* angle. In an extreme case of 120fps, for example, 180deg gives a very short 1/240 exposure, which played back at normal speed (à la Peter Jackson, not 24fps for slow mo) would be very choppy. What am I missing here?
@TangerineTux5 жыл бұрын
I think the underlying assumption is indeed that playback is going to be 24fps no matter what, and that footage recorded at higher framerates is for slow-motion, not for real-time playback à la Peter Jackson.
@TangerineTux5 жыл бұрын
Or maybe, beyond a certain point, having enough frames per second somewhat counteracts the choppiness of individual frames. Have you tried playing back such 120fps content on an actual 120fps monitor?
@BertieFett5 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. I’m a stills photographer but this was really interesting, looking forward to finding out more next week
@RockWilliams3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative. I'm allergic to math, have been my whole life. Still trying to understand all this, but thankful for it. Awesome video fellas!!
@eortizfoto5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are fun and packed with lots of knowledge. Awesome content. What else can we ask for? Thanks guys, cheers from Chile.
@artmaltman5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I had no idea, thanks for pointing this out and doing it so clearly!
@SliceofFilips2 жыл бұрын
A few fun facts: The CAF performance of some Panasonic cameras (G85) has been shown to improve at sharper shutter angles (around 120°). G85 and similar panys don't let you set angles, so you just have to play around with it. Sometimes, if I want a cool b-roll shot with lots of bokeh (closeup on a flower or something), on a bright day, I will find that traditionally shutter angle won't allow for the apurature that I want. To avoid overexposure, first I go to 60 fps for higher shutter speed... Then I abandon the rules. 1/200 doesn't look terrible if the subject is relatively still. Can't have motion blur without significant motion! I do the opposite with low light sometimes. I will go to 24fps and I think around 1/40... For relatively still subjects. Again, motion blur is only a problem when there is motion. FPS can be a value exposure tool, if it can assist you in getting closer to a desired shutter speed (but not without trade-offs).
@medcob74025 жыл бұрын
Finally the last pieces to the puzzle are in Place - thank you!
@mortenhaslerud Жыл бұрын
Thanks! This was really well explained and helpful!
@Shayler783 жыл бұрын
Is there anyway to internally lock 180 degree shutter angle, dial sometimes gets knocked and changes shutter angle in heat of the moment of shooting. Any advice? Thanks.
@rzero215 жыл бұрын
the first time I heard about shutter angles was when I found out about the Sony F65... It's quite interesting why Sony haven't adopted shutter angles from their CineAlta lineup...
@thomaso200015 жыл бұрын
That was an eye opening one!!! Thanks so much, I now and finally understand :D
@keithkekezwa68685 жыл бұрын
An actual tutorial that was actually useful, amazing! Loving the intro's 😂