I used to be a Jesus sceptic but now my opinion is... Maybe he existed lol. I still find Ehrman's arguments for Jesus's existence lacking. But he also supports Jesus's existence because it's literally his career. If he said that Jesus didn't exist, then his career would be studying a non existent figure and that would be silly. So I don't think we can take his word for it, but that doesn't mean Jesus didn't exist either.

@@whiteegretx A. I am an atheist and I am convinced Jesus and Paul existed, but of course the life of Jesus is distorted in the gospel accounts as they were written a few decades after his life and B. I sincerely think that Dr Ehrman agrees that Jesus and Paul existed not based on that he wants it to be but because the evidence points in that direction. There are many people who devote their lives to the study of Socrates, but Socrates has less evidence of him actually existing than Jesus. It’s not the person, but the ideas that they or their followers have brought that have so influenced the world. Dr Ehrman is also a scholar of Greek, even if Jesus did not exist his followers changed the world and their ideas are worthy to be studied.

Am much more of the opinion JesusSES existed and got compiled into one. We have that very thing with Merlin and we found some.

@@whiteegretx To paraphrase and alter Voltaire "If Jesus didn't exist it would be necessary to invent him" The ethics of the New Testament are excellent!

@@kaloarepo288 - If you're not being sarcastic, I must say that I disagree with you and your altered Voltaire quote (though I'm not sure I disagree with his original quote.) I don't find the ethics of the new testament novel or even good. There are common sense things, sure. But beyond that, there are things in the new testament that are atrocious and must be disregarded.

Lmao ! Yeah because the Muslim world is full of ppl critical of the Quran. You murder anyone who raises any concerns 😂😂

Meow.

Meow? 😻

Woof!

Honestly makes me smile every time I hear it, especially since I'm usually listening to videos at work and don't necessarily know what's next.

He actually uses the phonebook analogy in responding to the claim that the Koran is true because it has no mistakes in it -"the phonebook has no mistakes in it too -so what!"

Once he compared the Quran’s claim of having no textual variants to mein Kampf which was really good 😂

Definitely the Quran is not the bible since every word has more than one meaning but still they all flows in the same direction...this is without mentioning the hidden codes in the letters each one with its numerical value..etc..it is an amazing book ..

Isekai Jesus?

Japanese Mormonism, lol.

Wait a second. Do not Mormons think Jesus sailed to America?😅😅😅😅 Even Jesus can’t be at the two locations at the same time. So America, or Japan?

@@arkdark5554i think mormons believe jewish people before jesus sailed to america and then jesus just showed up one day to tell them what happened to him in the middle east😭

Being able to walk on water comes in handy when you’re working in a rice field.

Who gave the atheists the right to criticize religion AND to lecture the believers on how they should respond to criticism?

@@arefinkamal7654 How dare you criticize atheists!! Who do you think you are to question them let alone criticise them??? That is absolute blasphemy and they should never be questioned or critiqued as their ideas are sacred!

Bert is honest that's why he is not giving his opinion regarding Quran, as he is not a scholar in quran. But stupid Aron think himself as islamic scholar,

Erhman doesn't know about quran and hadeeths except for a passing knowledge

@@arefinkamal7654 Well, in my country it's the constitution that gives me that right.

No doubt of the amount of bs. Muslim scholar lmfao... Oxymoron... Or just a moron

“This is the Book, whereof there is no doubt” Well I’ve doubts, as have millions, so that’s nonsense for a start

​@@joygibbons5482 AL QURAN,,,, IS THE REAL WORDS OF GOD,,,, ITS PRESERVED WELL,,,, ❤❤❤

​@@styapramana😅😅😅

@@AndromedaBARNARDINO555 😂😂😂

blasphemy is a town north of jerusalem, or a kind of kosher meat :/

steve blasphemy...reservoir dogs...?

Blasphemy, the victimless crime.

And "Gehenna" (in islamic tradition "Jahannam" = hell) is actually a valley with an important ancient necropolis southwest of Jerusalem.

The only thing pure in this world is Aron ra’s BULLSHIT 😂😂😂😂😂

Likely because he wishes to live without a Solomon Ruskie fatwa on His head. I[[[m is that wicked. thanks

@@joman388 or he is intellectually honest. If he does not know he said so.

Very good apparently all the tasfirs for over 400 years believed the sun sat in a puddle.What does that tell you? thanks

@@joman388🫠

@@joman388 Let me guess, you are referring to the “good old” distortion of Quranic text Sarah 18:86 right? Well let’s look at the actual Arabic Quran!!! حَتَّىٰٓ إِذَا بَلَغَ مَغْرِبَ ٱلشَّمْسِ وَجَدَهَا تَغْرُبُ فِى عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍۢ وَوَجَدَ عِندَهَا قَوْمًۭا ۗ قُلْنَا يَـٰذَا ٱلْقَرْنَيْنِ إِمَّآ أَن تُعَذِّبَ وَإِمَّآ أَن تَتَّخِذَ فِيهِمْ حُسْنًۭا ٨٦ “until he reached the setting (point)of the sun, which appeared to him to be setting in a spring of murky water, where he found some people. We said, “O Ⱬul-Qarnain! Either punish them or treat them kindly.” Surah 18, verse 86) This is what all the Christian apologist use against Islam, I saw if from Ibn Warraq, Jay Smith, David Wood, Sam Sharon, Apostate Prophet, etc. Why not take a step further; are you going to claim that “people exist in murky water” too? Mr. Tafsir will straiten you out: (Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun,) means, he followed a route until he reached the furthest point that could be reached in the direction of the sun's setting, which is the west of the earth. -ibn Kathir. Problem solved.

​​​@@joman388where is that verse saying sunset in puddle? I am assuming i know the verse but i am just asking you give the specific verse number just to confirm

@@xshiro83 Koran 18 verse 86 until when he reached the point of sunset, he found it setting into a miry spring, and found a people near it. We said, “O Dhul-Qarnain, either punish them or adopt good behavior with them.” A few verses in Hadiths also further explain that the sun sets in a puddle as well, thanks

Dawkins has just lamented that his debunking of Christianity over the years has led to the propagation of a cult far far worse -Aron Ra has done the same debunking and he will regret too when he finds himself surrounded by shariah law!

اتوقع انهما لايعرفان القران مثلهما لايمكن ان يعرف القران

Aron is as big of a fool as can be.

Yes as a Christian my best Bible studies are from those who misrepresent Christianity or hate it. thanks

These two bring so much baggage that they can’t get out of their sandbox

@@taufiqatiq6563 That would be what the God of the bible tells us.All men know there is a God by the creation ,but the fool in His heart says there is no God. thanks

you dont even make sense. what details does the Quran say it forgot ? you need to learn that not every book has to give you specific details, especially books that are constructed as poetry. you are someone who expects every book to read like telephone book or cook book. if you want specifics there are other Islamic books about history, and biographies. and hadith books also have many specific details

​@@homer1273Where in the muslim superstitionist fairy-tale book does it explain how to make lasagna? Or change a flat tire? That thing is no better than the christian fairy-tale book.

Except the Quran gets historical details right that the Bible gets wrong.

@@sub7se7en Fantastic 4 comics get historical details right, so they must be true.

هل قرأت القران؟ القران لم يقل ان زوجه ادم هي من أغوته بالاكل من شجره تفاح الكتاب المقدس قال ذلك القران لم يقل ان ثعبان تكلم وخدع سيده ليأكل ادم الكتاب المقدس قال ذلك القران قال ان الشيطان هو من خدع ادم (الشيطان ليس كاءن خرافي الشيطان هو التفكير الخاطيء التفكير الغير علمي الشيطان هو الوهم الشيطان = الانحراف عن الطريق المستقيم) الكتاب المقدس قال ان طوفان نوح اغرق العالم القران قال ان طوفان نوح اغرق قريه نوح فقط الكتاب المقدس قال ان موسي خرج من مصر هاربا ومعه مليون انسان القران قال ان موسي خرج من قريه صغيره في اليمن مع عدد محدود جدا لايزيد عن 1000انسان الكتاب المقدس قال اقتلوا الاطفال والنساء والبقر والحمير واحرقوا المدن وابقروا بطون الحوامل لقتل الأجنه وخذوا الشابات سبايا وعبيد لكن القران لم يقل ذلك ابدا فكيف تجرؤ ان تقول القران اخذ قصص الكتاب المقدس ونسي الباقي؟ القران كتاب نبيل يعلمنا تعاليم راقيه وليس كالكتاب المقدس

Can you demonstrate it is not true?

​@annodomini7250 you mean prove a negative? Literally not possible except for having the same probability as the most ridiculous inference you could possibly imagine...rendering it near absolute zero.

@@seismicwhale5371 I see so you should be able to prove a positive prove that God is true. When you can or cannot you have proved your position.

Why dont you?

same reason we don't look to christian fundamentalists for the truth about the bible

No such thing as a Muslim scholar. You can only be a Muslim scholar if you are pointing out the bs like Mr. Ra..... Mr. Ra is a true Muslim scholar! He clearly pointed out the nonsense. That's a scholar!

because scholars study or hold live debates. They don't venture into the comments. it wastes their time. They prefer to learn and cultivate themselves by doing historical research. a video can reach thousands of people at once. a comment will reach 50-100 people maximum. it doesn't matter, whether it's Jews, Christians or Muslims, They simply don't have time to debate in the comments.

Now I'm trying to imagine what it would look like if people believed in D&D like a religion, and that the DM is god lol

@@kdemetter Going from my experience as a DM, it would go kinda like in the bible. The characters in your story always make wrong decisions, plans you made are thrown out of the window, a lot of people blaspheme you as they think their bad decisions are yours. But the thing is: I acknowledge I am a fallible human being, an actual god wouldn't make those mistakes.

Underrated comment.

Quite a backwards God ,wouldn't you say,thus no God at all. thanks

@joman388 Well it said God right on the collar when I adopted him.

@@gotsm9959 You need to quit reading your dogs collar through the mirror or the collar is backwards.Either way your dog is a creation of God not God,as that would be a huge insult to the real God. thanks

Don’t follow that guy he’ll lead you away from the water and you’ll die of thirst in a desert of the real.

Nope. Keep trying

@@Jennz777 you’re saying nope the Quran doesn’t indicate Christ was crucified? Maybe - it was an interpretation

@@lt4376 Yes Quran does not say that

@@Jennz777 IDK I have to recheck

No - I doubt it very much! Bart is not interested in critiquing or analysing Islam in public because firstly he isn't a ,backslidden Muslim or someone brought up in Islam,......and secondly, to publicly apply the same critical methods towards Islam and the Quran, would cost him dearly in every way, including his public reputation! ...so to summarise: *- Ehrman is not motivated to critically analyse any other religion except the faith of the New Testament* - ie Christianity, because in critically analysing it, and producing his theories about it, he is seeking to justify his own departure from it. Whereas, he has no such motive for any other religious text or religion as he is not trying to justify his position in regards to any other religious scripture. *- Ehrman knows perfectly well and is extremely careful to avoid any criticism of Islam and the Quran.* He totally avoids the subject like the plague! Even if he is asked, he very carefully and diplomatically skirts around it with the art of a politician and never honestly answers any questions about his academic views on the Quran or Islam. If pressed, he will say that it isn't his subject or area of knowledge...while this may be true, it is obvious that with his analytical deconstructionist approach, that in applying this to the Quran, he could not possibly accept it as written and presented! It would not take very much consideration from him to show that the Quran is a historical fabrication derived from previous religious texts that have been modified to form a new narrative by the author....but out fear, Ehrman avoids this subject because he knows that he would become a pariah in the minds of every Muslim and the masses of left leaning society who currently applaud him!

All stories of Hadiths are Concocted tales. Prophet Mohammad and his companions left behind Only written Quran; nothing else

well said

Islam is at least three centuries behind christianity, as it hasn’t had its Age of Enlightenment yet. It’s basically the Middle Ages with smartphones.

Quran is verbatim word of God, this is why, one Jewish Professor of Comparative Religion in Hawaii State of USA converted to Islam after reading Quran. No error no contradiction in Quran. I have been reading Quran for decades. *A person who claims that he has found any error or contradiction in Quran, has either not understood WHOLE Quran or he is a liar. It is must to understand whole Quran because over 6000 verses of Quran are interconnected like brain neurons, and in that way: verses explain each other in multifaceted forms*

Bart is not interested in critiquing or analysing Islam in public because firstly he isn't a ,backslidden Muslim or someone brought up in Islam,......and secondly, to publicly apply the same critical methods towards Islam and the Quran, would cost him dearly in every way, including his public reputation! ...so to summarise: - Ehrman is not motivated to critically analyse any other religion except the faith of the New Testament - ie Christianity, because in critically analysing it, and producing his theories about it, he is seeking to justify his own departure from it. Whereas, he has no such motive for any other religious text or religion as he is not trying to justify his position in regards to any other religious scripture. - Ehrman knows perfectly well and is extremely careful to avoid any criticism of Islam and the Quran. He totally avoids the subject like the plague! Even if he is asked, he very carefully and diplomatically skirts around it with the art of a politician and never honestly answers any questions about his academic views on the Quran or Islam. If pressed, he will say that it isn't his subject or area of knowledge...while this may be true, it is obvious that with his analytical deconstructionist approach, that in applying this to the Quran, he could not possibly accept it as written and presented! It would not take very much consideration from him to show that the Quran is a historical fabrication derived from previous religious texts that have been modified to form a new narrative by the author....but out fear, Ehrman avoids this subject because he knows that he would become a pariah in the minds of every Muslim and the masses of left leaning society who currently applaud him!

@@theonlyway5298 You were not in need of posting your long nonsensical tale. It is simple: Bart is not Scholar of Quran. So he does not know how to talk about Quran. FULL STOP.

Better not comment on something that is beyond your wisdom.

Because he stated he does not know enough about Islam

Because he is not a Scholar of Islam or Quran

Your absolutely right. It seems he has more hate when it comes to the Bible, If not why he ask him about onions and started talking about beans

Dr. Ehrman has been very clear in other videos and talks, and AronRa would be very aware of this, that he doesn't speak on topics he is not an expert in, which is why for these upcoming talks he is partnering with someone else who is an expert of the Quaran.

@@dhutch4129 Bart ehrman is not a fool, he knows exactly what he was saying, thats why he compared the problem in the hadiths with the Bible and say we have the same problem

@@dhutch4129 Dr Hashimi isn’t really an expert. He merely follows other scholars in the field and I highly doubt he would even be critical of the Quran given that he is still an adherent. Dr Ehrman should see this upcoming session as Dawah in disguise.

@@j.mtherandomguy8701 so you also reject all Christian and jewfish scholars for not being critical, or do you only doubt Muslim scholars?

Makes you wonder why ask Bible experts on issues about the Quran? Honestly.

.....including atheism, humanism and secularism.

@@theonlyway5298 perhaps look up the meaning of those and you'll realise how they dont fall into the category of being a religion

@@Mark13091961 so convenient

@@Mark13091961 You are right, but then again I didn't say they are a religion. I simply point out that as ideologies they are also to be questioned, critiqued and deconstructed with the same methodology that is currently being used towards religions and religious books. Unless that is done, then no change of human behaviour has been accomplished. All that will have happened is a repetition of previous human social and religious behaviour, transitioning from one ideology to another!

@@theonlyway5298I agree in principle with you, but taking atheism as an example, it’s not an ideology. Most atheists make no positive claim so have nothing to defend. I don’t believe in any god just the same as I don’t believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The evidence for both is about the same, but as I can’t prove that something doesn’t exist I make no absolute claim. It’s only that ideology that makes the positive claim that needs to defend it

Yes genuinely wrong is Ehrman,as well as Aron. thanks

​@@joman3880 explanation, 0 value to the conversation

@@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh If that's the case then we are both in the same boat,wouldn't you say? thanks

@@joman388 No because my claim does not require an explanation to be true. You are making a claim on minutes of speech while I am on one single sentence.

@@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh How do you know that my claim isn't just one single sentence?Isnt your conversation here nonsense? thanks

@ravindraju1 - One goes with their strengths.

Because Bart is not a Scholar of Quran nor has he ever read whole Quran, so he was supposed not to comment on Quran, and that what he has done

​@@abdar-rahman6965Bart is timid about commenting on Islam for a good reason, Islamic terrorists are quick to kiII people who are against Islam.

Javad Hashmi is a less than honest person. He used to write under the pseudonym 'Danios' for the smear site 'LoonWatch'.

THIS!!!!🔝you are 100% spot on. I watched some videos of Mr. Hashimi, he is a very dishonest interlocutor. that is his objective.

@@trixiepup3079 It is unfortunate but that is what they do. Never trust a Muslim when it comes to core theological claims regarding the Quran.

@@j.mtherandomguy8701 You are absolutely right!

Right. It depends, what kind of Scholar is he. True honest or Pseudo Scholar

Quran tells: Jesus was on Cross but was not Crucified=Not Died on Cross 4:157. He lived over 100 years 5:110 and died naturally and dead never come back. Independent historical Research also fully supports claim of Quran

"Source". Lol.

@@abdar-rahman6965 What historical research is that?

@@abdar-rahman6965 The Quran is channeling docetism there and again drawing on a late Gnostic Gospel where Jesus only “appears” to be crucified because some other person is made to look like him. The reason that late gospel suggests this is because they thought Jesus was entirely divine, and in no way human. They despised material existence so Jesus as a purely spiritual being couldn’t die. The Quran repeats the claim you’ve described because it doesn’t understand the implications. The historical research into the development of these ideas can demonstrate the link and it makes perfect sense. It also contradicts the rest of the Quran.

exactly!

It is a Dawah session in disguise. DO NOT ATTEND IT.

Pretty sure that guy is a heretic. But there are plenty of Western Quranic scholars who vouch for it's reliability. non-Muslim scholars.

Oh - a group of mind-readers here!

@@MossyMozart Based on his previous conduct we can infer that it is his objective this time as well. Not mind readers. Using our brain to make logical conclusions.

One question don't you think that it's hypocritical of muslims using bart ehrman to belittle or discredit the bible and christianity but don't apply the same critical analysis when it comes to their faith and i'm asking as a muslim

@@theguyver4934 I think some Muslims do. And it would depend which individual or group of Muslims you are talking about & what they have said. I think that Aron here should have had Islamic/Qur'anic studies academics on when he was doing that 2 year long reading of the Qur'an, just he has had Christian academics and historians on about the Bible. But he never did ... he mostly had exMuslims on and gave a lot of weight to what they said. Was that hypocritical? Not necessarily. If you want to focus on critiquing one text, that doesn't mean you have to critique another. You decide where you put your effort and your research. It is only hypocritical if you get in the way or disparage the critical analysis of your own text while engaging in that for the text of others.

Most of Top Islamic Professors/Scholars of today are agreed that Quran never abrogates its own verses but abrogates some outdated laws of previous scriptures. False Doctrine of Abrogation was invented by Oldi Sunni Imams in order to validate their millions of forged hadiths which they concocted 250 years after the death of Prophet Mohammad

"Quran is based on Torah and Gospels ( as it claims )". No it does not.

Quran is not based on anything, it is the word of God and has nothing of basis on previous texts.

@@atl.4044 Quran 3:3 _"He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel"_

@@BornToBeGoated Quran 3:3 _"He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel"_

​@@GxltoRead the surah you shared again. It does not say that quran is based on torah/gospels, it says that it reveals the same thing that as was done with these books. In islam, quran and the other three books are its own thing; not sequels of each other. They are supposed to carry the same message, but not be a continuation of the previous one. Whether islam's claims about quran and other books in the bible coincide with the reality or not is another discussion.

No, it literal says the opposite in the Bible: Matthew 24:35 ESV Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. Psalm 119:89 ESV Forever, O Lord, your word is firmly fixed in the heavens. Isaiah 40:8 ESV The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever Psalm 19:7-9 ESV The law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple; the precepts of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes; the fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever; the rules of the LORD are true, and righteous altogether

@@johnburn8031 That's Judaism and even then the wording is so different and then how the books compiled and canonized also very different Christianity almost did away with Judaism had Marcion won the popularity contest.

@@Napoleonic_S but Marcion lost and: Matthew 24:35 (NIV): "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away." James 1:17 (NIV): "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows." Hebrews 13:8 (NIV): "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever."

@@johnburn8031 Technically Marcion lost, but many Christians pretty much view the Hebrew Scriptures as he did and quietly drop the unappealing bits or reinterpret them fully through the NT, so they slip Marcionism in through the back door while publicly rejecting it.

@@joygibbons5482 that maybe true, and for the sake of discussion, I'll provisionally accept it as true. However, that doesn't invalidate my objections to the original poster's point. I also cited the New Testament.

You have no evidence of God. You can't believe in something without evidence. Try to look up the word delusional.... Yep that's you...

bart doesn't want to talk about islam, he said "i'll start criticizing the quran when i stop valuing my life"

@@Contagious93812 reference?

@@Contagious93812 - When and where did he say that?

@@Contagious93812 Me, you, or Bart has no right to comment on a Book which we have neither read fully nor understood Fully. Bart knows nothing about Quran

@@Contagious93812 hey DOG... can you answer the question?

Look at your heart, not your brain

​@@chromechrome-hb1gxDon't use the brain? That says a lot about all religious superstitionism.

@@chromechrome-hb1gx So... don't think? My heart found it to be rather reprehensible and intolerant.

There appears to be repetition only to the unlearned. Each time a topic is discussed only to add what is pertinent to the subject or another side of the account. And so there is no repetition. And that’s especially obvious when one knows the intricacy of the Arabic language which you have no knowledge of. Every word and every letter is in its right place. It is more like mathematics and its rules.

​@@brunozeigerts6379 I'm trying to learn about Islam but I tend to agree that much of the Quran comes across as very repetitive. I'm a Christian believer and I see "beauty" in many of Jesus' words and parables, especially the parables of The Good Samaritan and The Prodigal Son. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Muslims. I appreciate the discipline of many Muslims. Respectfully from Florida USA

Put the pipe down.

It’s all projection and signaling. Noticeable glasses highlight the visual/“optics” of life. He’s signaling that that is important to him. The roundness signals symmetry in all directions with their thinking. Ask yourself, where exactly are you seeing a lot of over 60 people doing this? Is it done by people that are into image and balanced thinking? All of this can be mapped on a toroidal Cartesian coordinate system which would tell you more. Including if part of the reason is to hide their eyes.

You've put the cart before the horse. It's from Boomer style that Harry Potter's style of glasses come from. It's to indicate that the Wizarding world is stuck in the past. There are other possible reasons. Thar style of glasses were in fashion in the 90s when the books were written. The films used the imagery from the book covers.

😄 _! Nice one..!_

He also does not want his head cut off

In fact, years ago he talked about Quran in bad words, and then I wrote him a open letter: Mr. Ehrman: being a professional; do not comment on any Book which you have neither read nor understood. So he has become now a Wise

​@abdar-rahman6965 your capacity to know what another person has read and understood is incredible. Can you do this for all people discussing all subjects or is it only when people point out nonsense in your interpretarion of your preferred religious text? Also, why would a god need you to defend his work rather than just making something that could easily be understood by all?

@@danielconroy6695 Your cacophonical rant does not not carry any rational content. You have talked in vain

@abdar-rahman6965 cacophonical relates to sound so unless you had you carer read it out for you, it is your comment that makes no sense. Please learn how to find definitions before embarrasing yourself further by trying (and failing) to look clever 🤣

I predict Islamic scholars would say that Daniel was a forgery, and that the only truth found therein was also revealed in the Qur'an.

​@AronRa Aron ,,this is the numbskull you choose to prove what ? He's an idiot

@@AronRa Yes, but they have a problem and so does Judaism and Christianity, in as much as every mention of Gabriel and his activities (3 in Quran, 2 in the Bible, 2 in the Old Testament) can now be seen to be false, invalidating the story concerned. The Book of Daniel is neither authentic as a book of history, nor authentic as a book of prophecy, because it is a work of fiction. This one fact destroys the very basis of Islam, the re-revelation of the Quran by Gabriel, if that did not happen then everything that followed is academic, lies and more lies based on a founding lie.

You are talking from millions of Fabricated hadiths; not from Quran which Mohammad and his companions ONLY left behind. Quran tells, that it was downloaded on the heart of Prophet and those people who understand Arabic at expert level, know that Arabic of Quran cannot be Arabic of any Human. 1400 years ago, God challenged Arab Pagans and Poets in verse 17:88 to produce even one para like a para of Quran, and no one accepted that Challenge. God is verbatim in Quran. Just see following example: Quran 50:16 (God says) NOW, VERILY, *it is We* who have created human, and *We know* what his innermost self whispers within him: for We are closer to him than his neck-vein. (Asad) (NOTE: "We" is Majestic Plural) Have you noticed, who is speaking in this verse? Quran 50:43 (God says) Verily, *it is We* who grant life and deal death; and *with Us* will be all journeys’ end (asad) Have you noticed, who is speaking in this verse? That story of Flying Horse Buraq on which Mohammad was shown hell and Paradise come from a fabricated hadith. It never exists in Quran. Your reference from extra-Quranic Previous books cannot be accepted because even Top Professors of New and Old testament say that Bible , Torah and Injeel is corrupted. *John Burton PhD was Professor on Islam. He was non-Muslim. He wrote a Book "the collection of the Quran". After heavy argumentation, he concluded that Quran which we have today is same Quran which was with Mohammad 1400 years ago.* Being the Final Book, God has taken responsibility to protect Quran. Quran was preserved in double mode. Revelations were written down instantly, and at the same time whole Quran was memorized. Today, there are about 50 millions Hafiz who memorize whole Quran and recite in the same one way. Is it not a miracle? If you throw all books and computer archives in Ocean; Quran will be right back. Bring one Hafiz and print whole Quran again. For 1400 years, continuously (without any break), Hafiz (now 50 million) are indeed a CHECK on Quranic Text. Will you change even one word of Quran; you will be challenged by 50 million Hafiz God says in 15:9 *We have sent down the Quran Ourself, and We Ourself will guard it* Quran 17:88 *Say: 'If all mankind and all invisible beings would come together with a view to producing the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce its like even though they were to exert all their strength in aiding one another!* Quran 41:42 *No falsehood can approach it (Quran) from before or behind it: *It is sent down by One Full of Wisdom, Worthy of all Praise.* Most of Top professor of Islam of today agreed that Quran never abrogates its own verses but abrogates some outdated laws of previous Scripture. Oldi Sunni Imams invented lie of Abrogation in order to validate their some forged Hadiths which contradicted Quran. When their any forged hadith contradicted any verse of Quran; Sunni Imam said: that Quranic verse is abrogated.

@@abdar-rahman6965 Are you a Quranists? Islam has a different, more hypocritical logic to normal, sane, people. It goes something like this; 1. ‘Ah yes, it says THAT that but it means THIS….’ 2. ‘You quoted from the Hadith but they aren’t the word of god!’ (but we rely on them to provide the five pillars of Islam, plus meaning and structure to our lives which GOD couldn’t be bothered to give us in the quran)’. 3. ‘The translations of the Quran lose the meaning of the original’ (unless we want to make a point by quoting from the translations, then they are ok’.) The implication being that every non Arab speaking Muslims in the world is reading an inaccurate and corrupted translated copy of the Quran which has lost its meaning from the original Quran in Arabic! 4. ‘The Bible is corrupted’. (Unless we want to plagiarise the history, stories and characters from it or quote from it to our own ends - then it’s fine.) As regards this Surah challenge nonsense, some people may think that the Classical Arabic of the Qur’an is the most beautiful thing they have ever heard. Other people may respond in an entirely different way and may think that a recital of, for example, The Iliad of Homer is much more ‘divine’ than the Qur’an, personally I find the eloquence and beauty in parts of the Bhagavad Gita far surpass the Quran. This is a very subjective challenge! Who will be the impartial judges on whether the challenge has been met or not? Will Muslims actually acknowledge that the Qur’an is defeated when the challenge is met? This is highly unlikely. You can almost imagine many ‘Suras like it’ being produced, and devoted Muslims acting as judge and jury to reject all contenders as a matter of course! You need to remember that without the 25% of the Quran which is incomprehensible, even to Muslim scholars, and the 25-35% which is plagiarised, the Quran would be a pamphlet - not a very impressive effort from ‘Allah’.

If the stories in Jewish scriptures are true, do you want them to be different in Quran? If there’s just one God, why the stories of His books should be different?

@@jcs184stop responding to these morons. The Quran is astoundingly unique and does not copy from any of the corrupted books that are filled with errors.

@@jcs184 They are man made stories from men who invented their own tribal Gods .

You are telling lies and only lies. You neither know Quran nor Comparative Religion. You have no any even basic idea on this subject, so better to shut

If you think Muhammad forged the Quran, produce a chapter like it, 10 chapters or the whole book. It's a challenge Allah made since 1400 years ago, yet none is able to do it until now❗😮

The Quran was 100% written by men. Uthman's men!

Whose words are these in sura al-jinn, 72:2 "It leads to Right Guidance so we believed in it, and we will never associate anyone with our Lord 'in worship'. 'Now, we believe that our Lord-Exalted is His Majesty-has neither taken a mate nor offspring,"

​@@user-lj9zq4dr5t Utmans men way smarter then entirety of the society until Columbus sailed to the new world?

UNBELIEVABLE ‼️ Ancient religions lasted for 1000 of years too ,did it make them right ? I believe NOT

@@assyriannahrin Islam is divine. It came to correct all the miss guided religions for thousands of years. Is Islam wrong? You need to read Quran. 💯☑️☑️☑️

no real scholar disagrees on the very human origin of the quran

​@@kinanshmahell8065thats objectively untrue lol

@WaqasAli-ct7ly the quran is plagiarized from the Talmud and non Canon new testament 🤣🤣

@@WaqasAli-ct7ly When you rely on blind faith, then it is objectively untrue.

The Koran is nonsense.

@@busterbiloxi3833 Ur head is nonsense.

If you read the Quran then you know Mohammed was Satans beeotch. Child grooming, beating your wife, and lying... Yep GOOD book 😂

Good points. The Quran also seems to be repeating ideas from gnostic later writings e.g The Gospel of Basilidies where Jesus in substituted on the cross because he’s a divine/cosmic figure who cannot die, which directly contradicts the view that Jesus is purely a human prophet. It reads like a mash-up of ideas circulating at the time.

That's not just a YEC belief, it was a common belief amongst Medieval Catholic Christians.

How and why?

@@AronRa You doing fine Aaron, do bring forth your best arguments against the quran, we more than happy to be scrutinised for our beliefs.

@@AronRa In many ways. For instance, *a)* the words of scholars aren't "authoritative", as fallible beings; if their claims aren't sourced from the Islamic tradition, they're rejected-- they also can't "add" words to the hadiths, I don't know where you got that from, lol; the best they can do is include commentary, but that also doesn't make it part of the hadith. *b)* the Quran wasn't revealed in a vacuum, so in order to understand the meaning of some verses, we'd need to know the context of revelation, as well as how the prophet explained them-- this is also why knowledge of the narratives is "assumed", since it was directly responding to people of the prophet's time. *c)* there's more detail regarding the story of Moses in the Quran, for instance, relative to Joshua. *d)* the Quran doesn't go into detail about "the life of the prophet". *e)* there's mention of eating from the forbidden fruit. *f)* there are specifics regarding Noah's ark in a few Hadiths.

@@vibz8346 Where are the specifics regarding Noah's ark? And where is the mention of the serpent in the garden?

@@zak992 How do you know that your supposed god actually exists?

Your last part is not the reason at all. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was mentioned less because he’s not the main focus of Quran, he’s the messenger. The danger of mentioning too much had the danger of turning him into god by followers like Jesus. Other prophets were mentioned because their stories were relevant to teach Muslims not to make the mistake previous people did. Now finally, the reason Muslims search him in other scriptures is the same reason why Christians search Jesus in the old testament to prove that he’s the Messiah. Just looking for an extra validation, which I find silly. Islam has a very strong ground and it doesn’t need validation like that. But people will always search for it. It’s the human nature.

Muhammad is mentioned only four times. What a dumb comment. 112:1 Say: He is God, the One and Only 112:2 God, the Eternal, Absolute 112:3 He begets not, nor is He begotten 112:4 And there is none like unto Him. The command to ‘say’ is addressed to the prophet Muhammad. Do you see his name there? No. How about this one: 66:1 O Prophet! Why do you prohibit ˹yourself˺ from what Allah has made lawful to you, seeking to please your wives? And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful. Do you see the name Muhammad? Yet it is addressed to him. How about this one: 13:40 Whether We show you part of what We have promised them or cause you to pass away [before that], your mission is only to give warning; it is for Us to do the reckoning. Do you see Muhammad there? Yet the text is addressed to him. Most of the Quran is like that. Unbelievable you people are.

​@@jcs184I appreciate your comments about Muhammad. Especially when you said that Muhammad is "not the main focus of the Quran". That's interesting and thought-provoking for me. I'm a Christian believer and I do see where Jesus is indeed the "main focus" of the New Testament. But Jesus was also a "Messenger" who came to teach the truth about God the Father. No disrespect intended. I'm trying to understand Islam better. So I appreciate your helpful comments. Respectfully from Florida USA

@@johnbrzykcy3076 I recommend you understanding the mindset of how Muslims view life as a test (look at Gazans as prime examples) as opposed to punishment for original sin or some new age "prosperity for piousness" . That's probably the biggest difference than linguistic analysis. We focus on individual sin and judgement where no one can intercede on our behalf. I suggest Jeffrey Lang's Purpose of Life video as well as anything by Omar Suleiman. His recent Why Me Ramadan Series is a amazing starting point, 10 minute videos series with great explanation and production quality. These are not "religious dogma" but very good, understandable explanations as well as universal life advice that anyone can take something from. Personally, I don't believe on all these "trying to debunk the other guy". It can just create sin through resentment from the heart and contempt for others. Regardless what religion you are, that's definitely a big no no.

All Traditions (Hadiths) are fabricated stock. Mohammad and his Companions left behind only written Quran; nothing else. Length of normal day and God's day is different and it is mentioned in Quran also