Dr Umar Johnson Responds To Long Time Bank Loan Argument

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Dr Umar Johnson Responds To Long Time Bank Loan Argument

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Dr. Umar Johnson is a notorious American School Psychologist, Doctor of Clinical Psychology, Author, Pan-Africanist, Educator, and education consultant.
He is widely famous in the world for being stand with black people’s communities and for helping them so far.
In fact, he is on the way to opening a special school for black students where he will provide higher-level education like other communities.
Dr. Johnson is doing all he can for backing black people in equality with white ones. However, he has both haters and followers in the vast majority.
Some people consider him a fake person and some consider him their idol. Now, it’s your turn to give your feedback on his life story.
He is also an author and has written a book titled “Psycho-Academic Holocaust: The Special Educations & ADHD Wars Against Black Boys”.
Let you below in his biography how these all started and where he is now.
Early Life of Dr. Umar Johnson
Dr. Umar Johnson was born Jermaine Shoemake on 21 August 1974 in North Central, Philadelphia, United State. His father, Jamal Abdullah Johnson worked in the U.S. Marine Corps as a drill instructor.
Dr. Johnson’s mother is Barbara Shoemake who named his son Jermaine Shoemake after her favorite singer Jermaine Jackson.
Although, Johnson’s parents got separated during his childhood and his father did second marriage to Bernice Elizabeth Dockins.
Later, he grew up with his stepmom along with his 10 siblings. Also, being in the Muslim religion, his father thought to change Umar’s name from Jermaine Shoemake.
As it was taken by his former mother and that’s why it later changed to Umar Johnson.
00:00:00 Dr Umar Johnson calls Out Vlad Tv
00:01:52 Dr Umar Johnson Speaks On Andrew Schulz
00:03:47 Has Andrew Schulz Affected How Charlamagne Views Dr Umar Johnson
00:05:52 Deleted Episode Of Andrew Schulz Speaking On Dr Umar Johnson
00:08:05 Big Loon Explains An Episode Of Brilliant Idiots Where Schulz Went In ON Dr Umar Johnson
00:08:52 Dr Umar Johnson Vs Andrew Schulz Debate Hosted By Big Loon
00:10:26 Andrew Schulz Debates Tariq Nasheed
00:14:53 Big Loon And Dr Umar Speak On Tariq Nasheed & Andrew Schulz Interview
00:15:54 Dr Umar Johnson & Big Loon Speak On An Episode Of The Brilliant Idiots
00:18:25 Dr Umar Johnson Speaks On The Iconic Roland Martin Interview
00:20:52 Capitalism Vs Racism
00:22:14 Dr Umar Johnson Tells Chilling Story Of Him & Dick Gregory
00:24:22 Dick Gregory Passed The Torch To Dr Umar Johnson Before He Died
00:24:52 Clarify The " Black People Bank Loan" Point You Made That Andrew Schulz Called You Out For
00:26:26 Big Loon Explains To Umar What Schulz Debunked About The Bank Point
00:26:38 Here Is What Andrew Schulz Said In Response To That Bank Point!
00:30:44 Dr Umar Continues to Clarify Bank Point
00:31:48 The Economic Racism Is Most Important
00:33:36 Dr Umar Says Raci$m Is The Original Intent Of America
00:33:50 Why Did They Declare Independence
00:34:36 Dr Umar Johnson explains why he thinks Him & Schulz Are Not Equal
00:35:10 Dr Umar Johnson Rips Into Dj Khaled
00:35:42 Dr Umar & Big Loon Speak ON Vlad Tv
00:36:49 What is Your Position on Lgbt
00:37:09 Loon Plays Episode Of Brilliants Idiots
00:38:18 Did Andrew Introduce Doubt To Charlamagne Or Truth?
00:39:10 Umar Says This About White Raci$ Males
00:41:22 How do You Shut Dr Umar Johnson Down When His People Believe What He Believes
00:42:26 Kill Access To The Platform
00:43:18 Dr Umar Johnson Clarifies His Position on Lgbt
00:45:35 Dr Umar Talks Gay Marriage
00:47:16 Umar says Schulz Mis represents His Message
00:47:43 Police Genocide
00:49:43 Umar Goes in On Obama
00:51:27 Do You Think Obama Faced Any Criticism from Blacks
00:52:53 The Pastor Brings The Politician
00:56:40 Half Of America Doesn't Vote
00:57:27 America Is Not A Democracy
00:58:16 The Violent Solution to Police Brutality
01:00:42 The Problem With Black Folks They Wont Rain And Not Thunder
01:01:23 Dr Umar Goes Deep On Nat Turner
01:04:11 Nat Turner Got Snitched On
01:04:45 Will The Executioner
01:05:41 Marcus Garvey
01:07:10 Priority Items in Black Media
01:07:42 Jay & Meek Police Reform
01:10:17 Token Black Men
01:10:58 Jay z NFL Deal
01:14:41 " Dr martin Luther King Jr Did Not Believe In Non violence" Dr Umar Johnson
01:16:31 When We Get a leader We search For an Issue?
01:19:17 WE speak on the First Time they Put Ye On Meds
01:21:15 Dr Umar Says ADHD Is A Joke
01:26:07 Man & Boy Love
01:27:55 African Culture & Love
01:30:30 The Douglas Family
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@arualuasee5945 2 күн бұрын

Everyone who considers themselves to be Black and African needs to support this man. His intelligence is so refreshing!!!!! OnGod!

@REALMACOYTV Жыл бұрын

This brother who is interviewing our brother Dr umar, is a real dude. He have great insight I respect that my brother, and thanks for giving our brother dr. umar ur platform ✊🏿

@Streetslogic Жыл бұрын

Facts... Especially his point on Shultz

@REALMACOYTV Жыл бұрын

@@Streetslogic yes especially that racist guy, that he’s talking about.

@manofgod3080 Жыл бұрын

@@REALMACOYTV The host is a typical uninformed sheep. An ignorant hype admiring 'Amen' crowd guy. Unfortunately far too many of our people fall into this category and both defer to & depend on one of these hype men like Tariq or Umar to do their thinking instead of putting in the work to become well informed. We have to get out of that foolish, lazy paradigm.

@manofgod3080 Жыл бұрын

@@REALMACOYTV Schulz gave both Tariq and Umar challenges on their hype rhetoric and they both failed miserably in their responses to his challenge. Blacks have to get out of loving style over substance. Dr. Umar (seriously) stating that Americans of Asian descent can be deported to 'origin nations' (that they have no citizenship claim in mind you) is absolutely ridiculous! It was foolish from the time it left his lips. Why would anyone with any intelligence attempt to defend such a ludicrous statement? We have to do better than this! Chase Messiah!

@manofgod3080 Жыл бұрын

@@Streetslogic The host is a typical uninformed sheep. An ignorant hype admiring 'Amen' crowd guy. Unfortunately far too many of our people fall into this category and both defer to & depend on one of these hype men like Tariq or Umar to do their thinking instead of putting in the work to become well informed. We have to get out of that foolish, lazy paradigm.

@vinikomikcocuk6435 Жыл бұрын

As someone who struggles with talking and thinking at the same time, talking very fast, just generally being a motormouth…this dude’s deliberate style in communication is something to aspire to.

@castle_45 Жыл бұрын

vay amk türkler harbiden her yerde

@s3d843 8 ай бұрын

Nah facts.. just listened to this again.. mans is smart/wise as hell

@lifemantra3840 Жыл бұрын

The conversation flows effortlessly. The Greatest in Hip Hop

@CEEJAYAKA Жыл бұрын

one thing i dont like about andrew is he asks you a question and then answers the question he asks for you or begins talking right in the middle of your response

@GM_Bebo Жыл бұрын

This discussion needed to happen ages ago. Too often Andrew is inflammatory for the sake of being inflammatory and that gets beyond boring after time. It's also a sad character flaw for a man

@antoineb9371 Жыл бұрын

Yo this guy is articulating my exact thoughts when watching Andrew Shultz

@fabfab1047 Жыл бұрын

That white mayonnaise Schultz is jealous. I’m so disappointed on charlamgne

@tyedup8884 Жыл бұрын

GREATTTTT Interviewer! Articulated his questions very well and was silent at the right time in order for Umar to answer. Very dope interview.

@dropmeoffinafrica5790 Жыл бұрын

This is why I will never have non Black/African friends or business partners… in the wise words of 👑Dr. John H. Clarke👑 “YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS”

@Bluebird-ke1yj Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. No such thing as a friend. Only associates.

@Mamamoonie 6 ай бұрын

💯💯💯💯

@Kn1ghtMayor Жыл бұрын

You never knew him before Charlemagne… hmm that means you’ve known him for at least 10 years. 🤦🏾‍♂️ which means he’s not a nonamer.

@Mamamoonie 6 ай бұрын

You did no one else did 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️.

@ItzNucentz 8 ай бұрын

Great Content thanks

@MrIsaTube Жыл бұрын

Salaam! The Prince of Pan Africanism🌹

@user-hf1it3bj1f 4 ай бұрын

I respect you Loon and Dr. Umar

@jetemoji6293 Жыл бұрын

best interview of him ive seen, keep doing your thing for us

@kiaora7214 7 ай бұрын

Great discussion 👏

@chuchubuchu1755 Жыл бұрын

Best of the best this interview give me alot of answer keep it up doc

@brooklynnikki478 Ай бұрын

Facts, I am working on my doctorate and the debt is astounding, but it’s hard to get a business 💵 loan from a bank!

@brooklynnikki478 Ай бұрын

Also, this is why I refuse to buy a car unless I have to. I have been driving the same car for 11 years!

@bancrofthowden8547 8 ай бұрын

Big up love the contents

@lazkopat4706 Жыл бұрын

I been waiting for this day for ssooo long.

@powerhardy1 Жыл бұрын

America is a business, its quite simple. EVERYTHING is about money

@KNOWLEDGELEARNED Жыл бұрын

Love that quote do you agreed that no one would be rich or successful if it wasn’t for the black dollar?

@powerhardy1 Жыл бұрын

@@KNOWLEDGELEARNED maybe not as much, but definitely some would be rich without a doubt

@cerrahchapo Жыл бұрын

This is a Vibe !!!!! Great convo

@naquaneley1868 Жыл бұрын

I had a 150k asset a truck and trailer owed out right. I couldn't get the 50k loan I asked for not even 25k from bank. I had a 750 credit score and did 200k plus gross in 9 months of business. I guess Andrew knows it all white privilege at its finest. But I could get a pay day loan dat would of crippled me. As a black man I had to figure it out or go out of business.

@geachyline172 Жыл бұрын

Yoooo i been saying this for years . But Charlamagne is not blind too it , he just be chuckin n jiving

@juombe Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@aaronshearer7643 Жыл бұрын

Excellent work being a host my brother

@ceejaii5318 Жыл бұрын

Powerful. ✊🏾

@mustafa-brawlstars4829 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad they finally had this conversation, well overdue I will still listen to the podcast

@OffTheHookGirls Жыл бұрын

Great discussion

@teknolojitv694 Жыл бұрын

Another Dope episode, much love to yall for making my day better! Best pod in the game

@OffTheHookGirls Жыл бұрын

I like your interview style allowing the guest to talk this was deep

@kantankafinejewellersinc.1879 Жыл бұрын

great interview.

@neckbone4941 Жыл бұрын

For everyone lost in context this is part 2 of the interview from the podcast part 1. I had to search for this content based off the first part of the conversation which is what led me here.

@carringtonlovejr2325 9 ай бұрын

Great interview brothers.. Ifaunte be eating

@xPurpleKillx Жыл бұрын

Watcg loon on brilliant idiots last week he only talked about DJ Akademics the whole time and didn't do what he said he would do if he talked to Shultz

@joshuahawkins3170 Жыл бұрын

facts Doc

@24robin33 Жыл бұрын

This is what happens when you have real conversations, they challenge you.

@rick8602 Жыл бұрын

This was really good

@like.7508 Жыл бұрын

The best fucking podcast out!! ‼️‼️‼️

@naquaneley1868 Жыл бұрын

Excellent work 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾 Both interviews were masterpieces. Gave your view points but got out the way 2 let the knowledge flow. While informing him as well. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

@BlackHeartTeeVee 8 ай бұрын

I think people think Umar is coming from a place of opinion rather than his passion for all of us based on extensive knowledge and experience. Whether you like him or not he is a jewel that we cannot allow to be stolen. Umar and a few others we have now we must fan the flames of the trail being blazed! Peace (positive energy always creates elevation) n love to all. I appreciate you for getting into doing this type of work Loon 💪🏽💯

@BRP Жыл бұрын

THIS A GOOD INTERVIEW RII HERE

@themoneyquarterback Жыл бұрын

You really missed the mark on B.I. my guy..instead of talking about AK the better more essential convo would’ve been you asking the questions to Schulz you said you was gone ask him here on this interview. 💯

@itsuptherepodcast Жыл бұрын

I do what I wanna do they asked me a question don’t give me advice thanks

@anthonylucas1729 Жыл бұрын

@@itsuptherepodcastlol I listened to the whole thing my brudda they changed the topic a few times and you kept bringing up Ak

@itsuptherepodcast Жыл бұрын

@@anthonylucas1729 that wasn’t about Ak that was about value what works for the people behind us. I already made it but I’m teaching it everybody don’t get it that’s them! It will age perfect

@itsuptherepodcast Жыл бұрын

@@anthonylucas1729 when people actually come listen to my catalog they apologize I have a video coming showing at least 300 messages from people . This is real life homie I’m paid and booked for my speaking and podcast I have results that what I am doing is working. Do some research 🧐

@itsuptherepodcast Жыл бұрын

@@anthonylucas1729 i am mad i didnt get to these questions tho lol but shultz will be on my pod episode coming soon

@prevailingtop Жыл бұрын

Damn this was a good episode though it's real and entertaining .

@johnnybradley1189 24 күн бұрын

🔥🔥🔥

@HotCave 6 ай бұрын

Dr Umar, what’s going on with the beards and glasses lol

@enesstalhaa5538 Жыл бұрын

🔐🔐🔐🔐🔥🔥🔥🔥

@emirfam9143 Жыл бұрын

It’s the accent for me ❤️❤️❤️

@onemajorhottie 7 ай бұрын

👏🏼 I applaud that man. He says the same things I've been telling my community for decades. It's so nice to hear someone who can see what I do about the plight of American Africans.

@herbertsmith7792 Жыл бұрын

Dr umar takes advantage of unintelligent people, I disagree with that.

@murphyholmes13 3 ай бұрын

23:00 I believe his last lecture was in Baltimore, Maryland

@salj.5459 4 ай бұрын

BEARDLESS UMAR?! I have never seen that before.

@godparticle668 Жыл бұрын

I'm only here to see if CTG really puts this guy in his place. Andrew Schulz is annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoying. Even now it's hard for me to even listen to this because he can NEVER be wrong

@andylarkin5779 Жыл бұрын

1:15:28 I'm in tears man lmaoo

@Koolgzzz Жыл бұрын

Og Percy, Terrance gangsta williams type interviews?

@sandraabreu-fn6fu Ай бұрын

No way am I to believe this interview only received this amount of views…#’s way too low. I had a hard time even being able to post a comment

@anthonylucas1729 Жыл бұрын

Weren’t you going to ask Shultz the hard questions? You went on their pod Brilliant Idiots and sat 2 feet away from him just to talk about ads and cry about Akademiks for 2 hours Lol talking a looooot about how you were gonna press him on here and then nothing

@miguelpidi1235 Жыл бұрын

Don't understand why he dont have his own podcast

@nmgym1577 Жыл бұрын

It’s bigger than that for him.

@huedinithebiggest7906 Жыл бұрын

who edit this its all over the place? got me tight skiping over key parts

@MotivateIndia1 Жыл бұрын

Classic.

@rick8602 Жыл бұрын

Vlad TV Canceled....Andrew Canceled...got it....next?

@hamzasaran7867 Жыл бұрын

Andrew cant have a conversation with someone who is very intellectual and a deeper thinker without feeling like he has to prove he is better. Mom, look at me I'm not using my hands kind of thing.

@MottoMotto_ Жыл бұрын

Mr. Schultz just needs a little straightening is all. Telling black people about the black experience & economy as a white individual is nuts

@manofgod3080 Жыл бұрын

Does Est. Clark 1999 realize who created, set the rules for and currently owns an operates the economy? Does '1999 realize who owns and controls all the wealth stream levers of power, and who knows all of the pathways, shortcuts and secrets? Seeing that blacks literally (not figuratively) depend on whites for every significant aspect of their lives other than faith, isn't it common sense to seek economic knowledge from the source and conversely, isn't it 'nuts' to shun that enlightenment from white individuals? Once the knowledge is gained, then we plot strategy! "My people are destroyed because they have not learned..." Hosea 4:6 NLV All Blacks need to be Berean! Acts 17:11 Chase Messiah!

@peterhunter6040 Жыл бұрын

But at the same time, he has more of an objective view point on the black community more so than perhaps the majority of black people, ESPECIALLY black americans and especially those who follow the likes of Umar, Tariq Nasheed etc.

@MottoMotto_ Жыл бұрын

@@peterhunter6040 he can say whatever. As a man he should be held accountable for the words he speaks sir. Speaking on an experience without the actual experience is irresponsible

@manofgod3080 Жыл бұрын

@@MottoMotto_ Your point should be taught in a class called illogical 101. Since you are not a white man dealing with a race of blacks accusing you & all whites of exploitation...by your 'logic', since you haven't had that experience i.e. Schulze (& other whites) experience, you have no right to comment on Schulz comments...able to see the folly?

@MottoMotto_ Жыл бұрын

@@manofgod3080 I’m black so cut it sassy pants. If a black man says what black people go through and then a white man responds with “that’s bullshit” how could a white individual tell black people what black people go through as if they’ve lived in our life?

@kondodurham2599 Жыл бұрын

.... CHARLAMAGNE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE DOIN

@CaliDiva82 Жыл бұрын

This Andrew guy is annoying and riding CTHOD wave. He is allowing him to over talk him.

@Kabingis Жыл бұрын

Dr. Umar. Please debate this man. Please. That guy thinks he's Howard Stern. He must be stopped

@chuchubuchu1755 Жыл бұрын

Please somebody show this interview for Andrew and ch...please

@OdinUchiha 6 ай бұрын

What about the black wall street and first black bank were lost?

@malahmetinkanal6389 Жыл бұрын

I think this original podcast was deleted. If anybody can find it you’re a hero and please let me know.

@gregoryyounge5880 Ай бұрын

This is true for the age of Grace but people don't know God's plan for humankind

@LottoGvngTv15 10 ай бұрын

U gotta interview rizza Islam

@DannyRose843 Жыл бұрын

😅 please have a sit down w Andrew

@DoubleupVision Жыл бұрын

Let’s go ..I feel they are playing with this man ..His thought process is amazing but he don’t get the credit he deserves #OnGod

@quincyx9372 4 ай бұрын

I watched that debate and Tariq Nasheed smoked that clown. Dude what are you talking about.

@louiehaha Жыл бұрын

Andrew Schulz being called out has been long overdue, and they did so to perfection. I can’t get enough of this

@23irontusks4 Жыл бұрын

Why's that?

@salj.5459 4 ай бұрын

Schulz seems like a gross, slimy guy.

@qualegabana3799 Жыл бұрын

Interview Dane Calloway 🗡

@kondodurham2599 Жыл бұрын

1:15:31

@kyriehome Жыл бұрын

FINALLY, this conversation happened. I stopped listening to the podcast because every show got lost in Shultz combativeness. It was exhausting to listen to someone who would just disagree to disagree, even if you agree with him and on top of that he seems racist. Nothing brilliant about that idiot. You gave him long enough to grow into a better host/person, he didn't, bye Shultz.

@johnnyb5984 Жыл бұрын

This old ?

@tramell9179 Жыл бұрын

When you go get yo big cousin cuz somebody been picking on yu lol

@tadah21 Жыл бұрын

Shulzy is out of bounds on Umar he needs to know he is out of bounds he will eventually tank his career unfortunately his base is blacks and many other people of color but Aryan people have a over inflated sense of self entitlement

@juombe Жыл бұрын

Let's get this straight the real Aryans were black.

@salj.5459 4 ай бұрын

@@juombeAryans are Iranians

@iTsCaAsHbAbY Жыл бұрын

That's not true about Andrew and those clips was years ago. But if u go to any time they talk about Dr Umar Andrew love him and wanna talk to him its not how u make it seem

@itsuptherepodcast Жыл бұрын

How the clips make it seem? Lol y’all are funny Andrew is my guy

@Biz0128 Жыл бұрын

🫡🫡🫡

@oliverbranch777 Жыл бұрын

Sizzla burned Dj kahlid plaque for not paying him and he Dj kahlid son godfather 😂 he lucky he can’t fly to here he at bc Sizzla would pull up

@jonhelguson Жыл бұрын

These guys are dating right?

@fly3xzistence Жыл бұрын

Tariq smoked Shultz wtf is this dude talkin about lol

@itsuptherepodcast Жыл бұрын

dude? i gave my view on the entire interaction at the time of it

@eyeseezombies9574 Жыл бұрын

Tucker Carlson embarrassed Tariq not once but twice, have you seen those interviews?

@fly3xzistence Жыл бұрын

@@eyeseezombies9574 lol u are on crack if Tuckers rhetoric impresses you

@fly3xzistence Жыл бұрын

@@itsuptherepodcast Yea Dude you are praising Shultz and he didn’t even give one valid point you are doing what you are accusing Charlemagne of doing

@oliverbranch777 Жыл бұрын

Very good interview but man stop this being acceptance to to Anglo support like GARVY

@savemoney4058 Жыл бұрын

They leave out the great work of Elijah Muhammad while at the same time trying to replicate it. This is why they will never be successful.

@23irontusks4 Жыл бұрын

Schulz....a nobody?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@DannyRose843 Жыл бұрын

Schulzyy would run laps around these two in a pod lol

@o.t.beatsbox1928 Жыл бұрын

Doctor Johnson could be racist himself but not intentionally. The route to black empowerment could cause more division. But at the same time I understand the need to take care of your own since the world isn't. But things get tricky because then the enemies of unity will have ammo to sell their narrative

@o.t.beatsbox1928 Жыл бұрын

Black aren't just from Africa. We all originate from that continent but dark skin people are from different places and get equally discriminated against but sometimes black people dismiss others plight because of colorrism or difference in culture. But Brazil, Cuba, mexico,and other Spanish countries have systemic racism as well .because why all the politicians in those countries that mostly have dark people in them are white skin and colored eyes.trust in believe I'm Dominican and Puerto Rican. Have dark skin and straight hair .not being excepted by my Spanish people and not having a place sucks just as well.el

@manofgod3080 Жыл бұрын

@@o.t.beatsbox1928 Dr. Umar Johnson & Tariq Nasheed can be on the team, but stationed nowhere near the leadership/decision making table! Chase TMH!

@emilio2647 Жыл бұрын

@@manofgod3080 maybe they should go to Haiti and govern that country.

@deathmarket4118 Жыл бұрын

That’s wrong big homie no cap you don’t meet force with force when it come to this. You ain’t wiling to die like nat big bro umar. You don’t got no military or nothing so what’s the purpose of just getting wiped out cuz u got mad 😂

@Kabingis Жыл бұрын

Kanye saying slavery is a choice went over a lot of yall head

@oguzhaaydn3948 Жыл бұрын

I'm a fan of Andrew because he uses logic and reason he actually questions people instead of just going along with the popular opinion I can see why it would be annoying but if people had discussions using logic and facts instead of emotion you could shut him up

@Eastonwest71 19 күн бұрын

Schulz is such a 🐍 . He gives me Jew vibes.

@oldirtydasher Жыл бұрын

Loon is so wack....talked about Akademics all hr

@TheOsk1e Жыл бұрын

When

@veronicavaughan8731 Жыл бұрын

Shultz is a Ben Shupiro.

@furiousstylez7od137 9 ай бұрын

Passing the torch??? The go between from Dick Gregory and Malcom X???? He’s always giving himself these titles. Connects himself to all the GREATS… he has an asterisk next to his name for stealing money for a non existent school since 2009 til today n continuing in 2023!!!

@solivagant1170 9 ай бұрын

Dick Gregory didn't take hours out of his day to talk to you, so I wouldn't be so sure. The conversation they had is verfiiable, you can search it up. There was a picture taken right after, June 25th 2017. Now you can dispute its contents all you like, but the fact is that it was had, and that he was later on invited to his funeral. Also, if you wanna visit the school in person to check on its developments, why not go to Wilmington yourself?