Dragon Quest's Timeline - Chronologically Confused

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3 жыл бұрын

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Dragon Quest is the longest running Japanese RPG ever. There's 11 games in the franchise and a ton of spin-offs and remakes. You would think it would be simple to follow, like Final Fantasy, with each game being basically closed off story-wise... BUT, no, each Dragon Quest game has so many connections to other games in the series that it gets pretty confusing, pretty fast. Chronologically confusing that is!! So, today I'm diving in and giving you a run down of the games in their timeline order. Oh, a bit about why it's called Dragon Warrior in America too... well, for a while anyway. Special thanks to sackchief for helping me with researching and editing!
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@JamesNintendoNerd
@JamesNintendoNerd 3 жыл бұрын
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@STICKOMEDIA
@STICKOMEDIA 3 жыл бұрын
When is the next AVGN i miss the nerd
@seanabbott1611
@seanabbott1611 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
@mommysatchick-fil-a3994
@mommysatchick-fil-a3994 3 жыл бұрын
Sick
@foxdoesyoutube2621
@foxdoesyoutube2621 3 жыл бұрын
nerd lives forever!
@U.F.O
@U.F.O 3 жыл бұрын
Ha, joke's on you! I already downloaded it! This is just a cherry on top.
@zhezhirekat
@zhezhirekat 3 жыл бұрын
Achievement unlocked! Talk about every dragon quest game without mentioning Akira Toriyama or Dragonball.
@ChiefMedicPururu
@ChiefMedicPururu 3 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@SoDaoudi
@SoDaoudi 3 жыл бұрын
Did he do the art?
@ChiefMedicPururu
@ChiefMedicPururu 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoDaoudi Yes.
@DrCrazyEvil
@DrCrazyEvil 3 жыл бұрын
What he didn't even do that? Sadface only 1/4 into the video
@bronysrule
@bronysrule 3 жыл бұрын
L
@KingOfSkill
@KingOfSkill 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd be in the timeline where the AVGN talks about Dragon Quest, one of my favourite series.
@lazwit5513
@lazwit5513 3 жыл бұрын
ayoooo the main man himself
@wariolandgoldpiramid
@wariolandgoldpiramid 3 жыл бұрын
Except, for whatever reason, he chose not to use the AVGN character for this video.
@pedropelegrinialves9365
@pedropelegrinialves9365 3 жыл бұрын
@@wariolandgoldpiramid yes, But you must remember he already did the mother 2/eathbound video with the nerd
@pedropelegrinialves9365
@pedropelegrinialves9365 3 жыл бұрын
Funny, I was searching the chronological order of the zenithian trilogy games yesterday
@Taktaagic
@Taktaagic 3 жыл бұрын
I love Dragon Quest so much. I played DQ8 back in 2017 and I love it so much. I loved the series so much that a Hero from one of the games was my most wanted character in Smash, and then... they came into Smash! I’ve played through the Demo of DQ11 on Switch and I loved it. I really need to get the full game.
@NachtKaiser666
@NachtKaiser666 3 жыл бұрын
My friend put it in an interesting way: they're like fairytales. That's why some have similar worlds and stuff. And you can factor the remakes that way: what was once a spoken folk story gets written by a new author adding twists and sprinkling a bit of their own on it.
@vatonage1599
@vatonage1599 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda like Final Fantasy, although a bit more connected since each mainline FF title is its own isolated universe, just with recurring themes, creatures and references.
@hia5235
@hia5235 3 жыл бұрын
All JRPGs are based on Western examples from old PC. They refined it for console wonderfully!
@colt4531
@colt4531 3 жыл бұрын
Similar to Norse mythology, theres no real origin to the lore, every new story found has some new gaps in it, usually re telling of Loki role
@arcspark4937
@arcspark4937 3 жыл бұрын
@@vatonage1599 Lightning is the only one so far to get a trilogy in Final Fantasy. Not that I blame them, Lightning is pretty cool.
@RabbitShirak
@RabbitShirak 2 жыл бұрын
So kinda like Mad Max. Each movie is a legend told by later generations.
@jugularmusic
@jugularmusic 3 жыл бұрын
"A hero and his band, traveling across the land, searching for an evil jester" James is so power metal!
@KaiKrimson56
@KaiKrimson56 3 жыл бұрын
That also sums up alot of Batman stories.
@mustangmckraken1150
@mustangmckraken1150 3 жыл бұрын
Ff3/6? Lol
@UltimaKeyMaster
@UltimaKeyMaster 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that basically is DQ8 in a nutshell. ;P
@DQMaster777
@DQMaster777 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing more satisfying than hearing the Dragon Quest level up sound. :)
@Goob4430
@Goob4430 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very new to the series and this video kinda ruined it for me
@DQMaster777
@DQMaster777 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goob4430 It's a very technical way of saying that you can play the games in any order, and you might find things here and there that connect them. Don't worry about it, and just have fun with it.
@retrogamernes3121
@retrogamernes3121 3 жыл бұрын
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
@johnny-james
@johnny-james 3 жыл бұрын
Well.. I was always relieved to see my saved data was still there and even if i held in the reset button like an *** hole last time I was never really sure, or the power would go out for a couple seconds and my summer break forsaken
@SandopolisZone
@SandopolisZone 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Goob4430 it really spoiled a lot of DQ XI. But the game is still so enjoyable and fun!
@Casketkrusher_
@Casketkrusher_ 3 жыл бұрын
"You're adding FredFuck to your party".
@EarlDogg
@EarlDogg 3 жыл бұрын
And
@LazyBastard69
@LazyBastard69 3 жыл бұрын
@@EarlDogg Nice
@Rockker1993
@Rockker1993 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT WAS HE THINKING?????
@democard1199
@democard1199 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a bad slime (slurp)
@phantomspaceman
@phantomspaceman 3 жыл бұрын
"Analbag has fainted."
@ThriftySteve
@ThriftySteve 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Dragon Quest XII: The Legend of FredFuck
@oaktree2406
@oaktree2406 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no fred fuchs.
@ControlledDissonances
@ControlledDissonances 3 жыл бұрын
*DQ XII: The Flames of Fate
@Oboromaru
@Oboromaru 3 жыл бұрын
Dragon Quest XII: The Flames of FredFuck
@niclasbelrra
@niclasbelrra 3 жыл бұрын
This comment may age very well.
@KetwunsGamingPad
@KetwunsGamingPad 3 жыл бұрын
The Flames of Fred Fuchs sounds way better lol
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin 3 жыл бұрын
"It's almost like there isn't a timeline" You figured it out man. That is literally the answer to the question.
@verguco6051
@verguco6051 2 жыл бұрын
the same aplies to zelda, all the games contradict each other except the games that explicit are sequels like zelda 1 and 2, ocarina and majorask and the toon link games, i never understand why people wanted a zelda timeline, every game could be a stand a lone game there is no problem with that
@WolfieGirlSheena
@WolfieGirlSheena Жыл бұрын
@@verguco6051 not sure how all the Zelda games contradict previous games. Pretty sure all the games are pretty well established and take place sometimes hundreds of years from each other, allowing for games to be reinterpreted as legends within the canon. The official timeline itself is even pretty solid. I'd like to know where you came to the conclusion of contradictions
@HerohammerStudios
@HerohammerStudios Жыл бұрын
But there absolutely is though
@favoritemustard3542
@favoritemustard3542 Жыл бұрын
lol @18:25 👍
@MadPanicGaming
@MadPanicGaming 3 жыл бұрын
DQ is massively popular here in Japan, it's akin to the popularity of Disney films or something like that. The slime is an instantly recognizable symbol. There are even DQ branded convenience stores that play sound effects from the games when you enter and leave which is especially cool. Personally, it's one of my favorite game series ever and I never really concerned myself with their chronology, they're just simple and fun RPGs that I can go back to anytime.
@shermhart7617
@shermhart7617 3 жыл бұрын
No way! That is awesome, Japanese people are the best.
@nyo24
@nyo24 Жыл бұрын
I knew about its popularity in Japan but I didn't know there were DQ themed convenience stores! I need to visit someday ^^
@NabiscoAmerican
@NabiscoAmerican 25 күн бұрын
when I walk in and hear the village theme I would spazz out
@jordanrichardson7498
@jordanrichardson7498 3 жыл бұрын
Cinemassacre and Dragon Quest!? I never watched anything so quickly in my life.
@johnny-james
@johnny-james 3 жыл бұрын
... *videos com .....
@dom85ross
@dom85ross 3 жыл бұрын
How do you watch something quickly
@AsheTheFox
@AsheTheFox 3 жыл бұрын
No one tell him about Dragon Quest IX special grotto bosses.
@dakotadoyle7573
@dakotadoyle7573 3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that 9 takes place in dream world
@kekeke8988
@kekeke8988 3 жыл бұрын
What about DQ XI 3DS's bonus end game content with a temple of time and warp gates to go clear quests in entries throughout the series.
@SPNF.SPNF.SPNF.
@SPNF.SPNF.SPNF. 3 жыл бұрын
The story of dq11 seems so badass to be the prequel’s prequel
@ProtoMario
@ProtoMario 3 жыл бұрын
I'd paint that Dragon Quest cover art on a Van, for sure.
@andrexg.7559
@andrexg.7559 3 жыл бұрын
BUT PROTO, you should be making videos,not painting a van.
@someonenamedtito7125
@someonenamedtito7125 3 жыл бұрын
2nd comment
@zombiewarrior88
@zombiewarrior88 3 жыл бұрын
But proto, why would you do that?
@KingTKalimari
@KingTKalimari 3 жыл бұрын
But proto...
@salazar7223
@salazar7223 3 жыл бұрын
its great to see James Rolfe take a keen interest in the Dragon Quest series
@Its__Good
@Its__Good 3 жыл бұрын
22 mins later: Don't worry about timelines or any of that stuff.
@panagiotischristo
@panagiotischristo 3 жыл бұрын
Reason why I didn't like the video...just waste of time. It's great showing glimpse of each game...
@StrangeDad
@StrangeDad 3 жыл бұрын
@@panagiotischristo That's not true. He did explain a lot of how they connect, but also that the remakes makes the timeline confusing and illogical. He concludes that the timeline isn't essential to enjoy the games, the message being that you don't need to worry too much about it. That's not wasting time, it's informative and fun. Very much so if you never really played any of the games (which seemed to be James' situation going into this).
@jmtrad1906
@jmtrad1906 3 жыл бұрын
1-3 4-6 7 and 8 9 and 10 11 is a prequel of 1-3 (possibly 4-6 too) It's only harder if you want to put spin-offs on this and bonus content of remakes.
@citavalo
@citavalo 3 жыл бұрын
@@panagiotischristo You telling me you don't like listening to James ramble on about random subjects? Impossible.
@atomic747
@atomic747 3 жыл бұрын
@@panagiotischristo Then you clearly didnt pay attention.
@murr-murs7786
@murr-murs7786 3 жыл бұрын
Akira Toriyama's character designs and art style is what makes these games so great. I'm happy to see that James is finally talking about this series!
@Glaugan
@Glaugan Жыл бұрын
His art style has gone stagnant since 20 years ago, no new development or advancement to technique or art style whatsoever
@rambofan334
@rambofan334 Жыл бұрын
@@Glaugan You can't improve perfection.
@HerohammerStudios
@HerohammerStudios Жыл бұрын
It absolutely isn't what makes them great, but it's a very nice bonus
@shidanslair
@shidanslair Жыл бұрын
If that's the only thing that make them great, then why bother playing the games, instead you should watch the tv show.
@nathadniel5790
@nathadniel5790 3 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder that DQ11 is one of the best games ever created.
@dannysummers4591
@dannysummers4591 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad act 3 ruined the ending
@Thrifty032781
@Thrifty032781 3 жыл бұрын
It's an absolute masterpiece.
@ihavetubes
@ihavetubes 3 жыл бұрын
Dq 8 ftw
@luvmenow33
@luvmenow33 3 жыл бұрын
DQ11 is the only one of the main series I've never played. I gotta find the time.
@rbggsc6719
@rbggsc6719 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@DeckyStrikesBack
@DeckyStrikesBack 3 жыл бұрын
You know hes an adult now when he names his in game character James.
@King_Luigi
@King_Luigi 3 жыл бұрын
(Meanwhile @ 10:20) ... 🤔
@Greensky02
@Greensky02 3 жыл бұрын
Fellow James here: I've always done that since a wee lad!
@theblackgoatofthewoods
@theblackgoatofthewoods 3 жыл бұрын
No more Analbag
@MotherKojiro
@MotherKojiro 3 жыл бұрын
And then, there's Yakuza: Like a Dragon, where the protagonist thinks he's in a Dragon Quest game!
@atomic747
@atomic747 3 жыл бұрын
Well he wants to be a hero like in dragon quest.
@raulrojas9253
@raulrojas9253 3 жыл бұрын
@@atomic747 Turns out Kiryu is a direct descendant of Erdrick and Ichiban is going to earn that tittle in the future in Yakuza Like a Dragon 3
@arielborjas1578
@arielborjas1578 3 жыл бұрын
Just saw this thank you lol
@robinaerts1216
@robinaerts1216 3 жыл бұрын
@@raulrojas9253 Haha, nice one dude! :)
@Shinmsl
@Shinmsl 3 жыл бұрын
The anime movie "Dragon Quest your story " < SPOILER ALERT!!!> follows the same premise
@DawnOfTheOzz
@DawnOfTheOzz 3 жыл бұрын
The character designs of the series was created by Akira Toriyama, as in the same guy behind the massively popular Dragon Ball franchise. And also Dr. Slump.
@KaiKrimson56
@KaiKrimson56 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised he didn't mention it in the video.
@wills242
@wills242 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Slump is awesome!!!!
@Oh_oh_its_Magic
@Oh_oh_its_Magic 3 жыл бұрын
And sanit sayain as well!
@steverodriguez5247
@steverodriguez5247 3 жыл бұрын
Chrono Trigger... Odd didn't mention, since it's a Square game
@itsstothehtotheatothentoth3852
@itsstothehtotheatothentoth3852 3 жыл бұрын
ya huge blunder on him for not mentioning it I kept on waiting for him to mention Toriyama but never did :(
@adistantwail8419
@adistantwail8419 3 жыл бұрын
The DQM Joker games are what got me into Dragon Quest's main series. It's the unique and creative monster designs that drew me in. To this day I lament over how we never got a localization of 3.
@bitduelist
@bitduelist 3 жыл бұрын
We never got the localization of 3 but people have fan translated it so there is a full English version of dqmj 3
@louismailhot9269
@louismailhot9269 2 жыл бұрын
Or terry wonderland
@nikoxenos6237
@nikoxenos6237 3 жыл бұрын
The “side of a badass van” joke was enough for a like. 👍🏻
@toryficarola
@toryficarola 3 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, that is by far and away my preferred box art.
@alxjones
@alxjones 3 жыл бұрын
@@toryficarola I can see why, especially if you were around during that time. I didn't know about Dragon Quest until after I was a fan of both Dragon Ball and Chrono Trigger, which was late 90's, so seeing Toriyama's artwork did a lot more for me than the more realistic western art.
@Doyledeth
@Doyledeth 3 жыл бұрын
I'm chronologically confused about the Tetris games.
@SparkTFS
@SparkTFS 3 жыл бұрын
Puyo Puyo Tetris happens 1000 years after an Alien Invasion that happened after Tetris 2
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin 3 жыл бұрын
Of the middle titles, 5 is by FAR the best. The story is simply amazing in it & the gameplay is too. But it's mainly the fantastic story that carries the 5th entry. You won't believe what the hero in that game has to go through.
@sonicXstarhedgehog
@sonicXstarhedgehog 7 ай бұрын
Well, there is a reason that's the one chosen to be made a movie.
@baronkarza2939
@baronkarza2939 5 ай бұрын
once you find out he has the lowest luck stat of any protag it makes sense
@unosturgis
@unosturgis 3 жыл бұрын
This is just VGN
@DASH596
@DASH596 3 жыл бұрын
''He's gonna take you back to the past To play and talk about games'' That's it, that's the song now
@LowCountryMatt
@LowCountryMatt 3 жыл бұрын
A vegan!?
@audrniasn
@audrniasn 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe James is talking about DQ, my favorite JRPG series of all time.
@jonnymmac
@jonnymmac 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@quicklittlesnail1616
@quicklittlesnail1616 3 жыл бұрын
Donkey Qong?
@kahjunn9427
@kahjunn9427 3 жыл бұрын
Dairy Queen lol
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 3 жыл бұрын
Well he was payed to.
@audrniasn
@audrniasn 3 жыл бұрын
@@belstar1128 Regardless of that, he still made an amazing informative video with some details that even I didn't know, so it's still awesome. It's cool that James always delivers content which really make him deserve the money he gets for his work.
@linclokatz
@linclokatz 3 жыл бұрын
James dresses like a mix between a trucker and a director.
@beruga
@beruga 3 жыл бұрын
He's channeling his inner Rex Viper Rigs.
@juxtaposition7894
@juxtaposition7894 3 жыл бұрын
Big gigs!
@Deoxys911
@Deoxys911 3 жыл бұрын
He's the mothertruckin' director!
@brovid-19
@brovid-19 3 жыл бұрын
a trecker or a truckie
@theundertaler5875
@theundertaler5875 3 жыл бұрын
That's how everyone in Philly dresses
@yaboydarrell
@yaboydarrell 3 жыл бұрын
11 poses an interesting idea about the splits. Zenithian is codependent on erdrick happening. However a third potential timeline could occur if eleven chooses not to go back in time and now neither has a broken sword of light or the title of erdrick, (things that both timelines depend on). so potentially 12 could be either a prequel to 11, a continuation of either timeline, or the start of a third timeline.
@Xaverrrrr
@Xaverrrrr 3 жыл бұрын
Dq finally getting the recognition it deserves
@queencancerous5332
@queencancerous5332 3 жыл бұрын
For those that don’t know, the Dragon Quest Art was done by Akira Toriyama. He’s most famous for being the mangaka behind Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball.
@UltimateShadow10
@UltimateShadow10 3 жыл бұрын
This is the closet thing we've ever gotten to seeing James discuss anything related to Akira Toriyama. He did use DBZ sound effects in the AVGN Pepsiman episode which confused me because I don't think James ever even touched a Dragonball game ever.
@queencancerous5332
@queencancerous5332 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateShadow10 pretty sure whoever edited that video added those
@dancing_odie
@dancing_odie 3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@arturgizewski9687
@arturgizewski9687 3 жыл бұрын
i thouhgt it looked familiar
@sash8303
@sash8303 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I wondered why it looked like DB
@thelittlebosniaexperience8181
@thelittlebosniaexperience8181 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love that old school Akira Toriyama art
@ninjanizzle
@ninjanizzle 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I was surprised didn't mention him or his involvement with Dragon Ball when he was talking about the cover art
@valentds
@valentds 3 жыл бұрын
@@ninjanizzle i don't think james love dragonball tbh. very little big people (maximilian dood for example) watched dragonball regularly
@Keithustus
@Keithustus 3 жыл бұрын
@@valentds, right, wrong generation. We weren’t exposed to that stuff at the right age. There was no world wide web until almost teens.
@ninjanizzle
@ninjanizzle 3 жыл бұрын
@@valentds even someone with a small amount of knowledge of anime should know toriyama did the art for dbz though, even if they never watched the show.
@itsstothehtotheatothentoth3852
@itsstothehtotheatothentoth3852 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keithustus what are you talking about James is around my brothers age and my bother loved dragon ball.. he's in the same generation.
@user-lg6ky6fh6d
@user-lg6ky6fh6d 3 жыл бұрын
日本のRPGをこうして取り上げてくれることに物凄く感動を覚えるなぁ・・・ THANK YOU!
@nyo24
@nyo24 Жыл бұрын
日本のRPGは世界でもっと評価されるべき!
@nicksrandomreviews
@nicksrandomreviews 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for James to do a "Chronologically Confused about Shin Megami Tensei".
@johnlabonte5469
@johnlabonte5469 3 жыл бұрын
That video would have to be like 3 hours long lol
@silverman1601
@silverman1601 3 жыл бұрын
i would LOVE that
@nicksrandomreviews
@nicksrandomreviews 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnlabonte5469 I am looking for the downside to that.
@moddedinkling4168
@moddedinkling4168 2 жыл бұрын
That video's gonna attract a lot of debates between main-series SMT and spin-off Persona.
@madmellian
@madmellian 2 жыл бұрын
I know persona is connected, but are the other SMT games connected too?
@OreoBrawl
@OreoBrawl 3 жыл бұрын
...did no one tell James that “scion” had a silent c?
@Hadmin
@Hadmin 3 жыл бұрын
i lolled at that
@weeabudsofficial1723
@weeabudsofficial1723 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hadmin LOL
@ZeroRoyale
@ZeroRoyale 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I didn’t know until now
@PaleHorseShabuShabu
@PaleHorseShabuShabu 3 жыл бұрын
I had to pause, laugh, and scan the comments to make sure someone mentioned it.
@johnny-james
@johnny-james 3 жыл бұрын
thats a waste of alphaghetti what about scorn. . like in gauntlet legends Skorne is it corn and korn? xS
@SteelBallRun1890
@SteelBallRun1890 3 жыл бұрын
James x Dragon Quest is something I never thought I'd see.
@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS
@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS 3 жыл бұрын
But ya love to see it!
@Gooseygoose14
@Gooseygoose14 3 жыл бұрын
$$$
@kaylevy7107
@kaylevy7107 3 жыл бұрын
same, and I couldn't be happier. I love the dragon quest series so much and was surprised and excited to see james do a video and now know he's played them.
@MomoKunDaYo
@MomoKunDaYo 3 жыл бұрын
How old are you guys? Hes above 35 in age, hes been playing video games all of his life, hes referenced the series in his videos before, and he owns a huge collection of nes and snes games.... Of course hes played DQ
@MrRenegadeshinobi
@MrRenegadeshinobi 3 жыл бұрын
Never in my life have I needed something so much and never known until I recieved it.
@Flamespotz
@Flamespotz 3 жыл бұрын
"Every dragon quest has a remake" *cough cough* not 9... Please remake 9.
@ronanjager3829
@ronanjager3829 3 жыл бұрын
No you coughing it wrong it's: eh-huh eh-huh.
@LowCountryMatt
@LowCountryMatt 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronanjager3829 i thought coughing was ECH
@jaretco6423
@jaretco6423 3 жыл бұрын
We need DQ9 on the Switch.
@Flamespotz
@Flamespotz 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaretco6423 I 100% agree
@archdukexolotl8983
@archdukexolotl8983 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that you skipped by this series but did your research, this was pretty genuine dude.
@MolternK
@MolternK 3 жыл бұрын
This could be a continuing series, there so much games and movies that could fit this criteria
@Szokynyovics
@Szokynyovics 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it IS a continuing series, it just takes long years between sequels. :D
@FoxeyeValkyrie
@FoxeyeValkyrie 3 жыл бұрын
He did give people a poll to vote on what would be next, but the list was of games that weren't that confusing.
@randomduck8679
@randomduck8679 3 жыл бұрын
There was a Zelda one a while back.
@WhoIsRyanFox
@WhoIsRyanFox 3 жыл бұрын
Huge missed opportunity by not ordering them with varying numbering schemes though. Chronologically Confused Chronologically Confused 2 Chronologically Confused III Chronologically Confused Act 4 Chronologically Confused 2 Revisited Chronologically Confused Part F
@TokuNorth
@TokuNorth 3 жыл бұрын
heh, found a new subscriber
@riversart2030
@riversart2030 3 жыл бұрын
The Japanese box art of the original Dragon Quest is my favorite box art of all time. Excellent character design, very elegant and simple composition and I love the purple color.
@ferelpuma
@ferelpuma 3 жыл бұрын
In Mexico, the Dragon Quest III anime (named Las Aventuras de Fly) was really big for a while. I still tear up whenever I hear the music. It brings really nice memories.
@projectmessiah
@projectmessiah 3 ай бұрын
Adevntures of Dai isnt really a DQIII anime. Its pretty much its own setting.
@ppleakage2785
@ppleakage2785 3 жыл бұрын
The rebirth of chronologically confused
@BigBrosFilms
@BigBrosFilms 3 жыл бұрын
More like digging up and dephasing a corpse
@kerred
@kerred 3 жыл бұрын
On a side note, the reason why many DQs refer back to 3 is just how successful DQ3 was in Japan. DQ3 was about Half Life levels of hype in Japan at the time.
@edvance1030
@edvance1030 3 жыл бұрын
I hope this becomes a series.
@MrVariant
@MrVariant 3 жыл бұрын
18:40 where be dragon quest heroes 1 and 2? But those are massive crossover so I guess it's it's own thing like 9 and 10.
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 3 жыл бұрын
They had to pay him to do it please james make a chronologically confused video about dragon quest we pay you 50$
@gateofdestiny
@gateofdestiny 3 жыл бұрын
If you rescue the princess, and instead of bringing her back to the King, you go right the the final dragonlord boss with her, he will thank you for bringing her all the way to him
@JesseSwaney
@JesseSwaney 3 жыл бұрын
Really? That's awesome! I never thought to try this lol.
@justingates4985
@justingates4985 3 жыл бұрын
@@JesseSwaney You can carry the princess around for the entire game, once you save her, as long as you don't go back to the king to save.
@artapichendusae9498
@artapichendusae9498 3 жыл бұрын
Commonly, go to an inn. Inn owner said something too.
@GamingMariner
@GamingMariner 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the remake, but not in the original NES version. I've done it plenty of times, and there has not been a difference in the dialog weither you have the princess or not
@bluestrife28
@bluestrife28 3 жыл бұрын
Thing I loved about DQ the most was that if you did the serious grinding, you were a huge beast by the end.
@unocarb
@unocarb 3 жыл бұрын
All I know is the warrior Ortega should be mentioned more.
@sackchief
@sackchief 3 жыл бұрын
I helped out with this vid! I love Dragon Quest!
@OniLordMiki
@OniLordMiki 3 жыл бұрын
Chief! You helped the Nerd out? Making it to the big leagues now! 😃
@kalleekstrom9117
@kalleekstrom9117 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw your name in the description at the beginning I thought I was seeing things.
@umbrahat
@umbrahat 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you helped the nerd out Sackchief.
@dragonquesti8629
@dragonquesti8629 3 жыл бұрын
Love your vids, cheif!
@kalleekstrom9117
@kalleekstrom9117 3 жыл бұрын
Where does rocket slime fit in?
@ProneIsBlocked
@ProneIsBlocked 3 жыл бұрын
Dang I remember seeing Dragon Quest III for GBA at Costco and thought it looked so cool and I begged my dad to buy it for me. Man you couldn’t believe how many hours I put into the game.
@groverrogers6916
@groverrogers6916 3 жыл бұрын
I had it in nes in 93 was my favorite non Mario non Zelda nes game
@Mansini77
@Mansini77 3 жыл бұрын
III was by far the best of the four that were released on the NES.
@KTF0
@KTF0 3 жыл бұрын
I could believe it
@LeoMidori
@LeoMidori 3 жыл бұрын
I'm replaying the Super Famicom version of it, it's so great to revisit. Any favorite classes? I adore the Thief and Merchant.
@ProneIsBlocked
@ProneIsBlocked 3 жыл бұрын
@Back from the Deadpool ooop you’re right haha xD been a long time since then
@MistaFreeman1
@MistaFreeman1 3 жыл бұрын
When you're 7 living in South Central LA back in the 90s? This game, this series was my escape. That is until the internet spread to the hood.
@thedragovian5722
@thedragovian5722 3 жыл бұрын
DQ is one of my favorite series. I'm glad I got to see you cover it!
@Shane-bf7jl
@Shane-bf7jl 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the title and thought "don't do this to yourself" then I thought, it's James, he can handle it
@MrGnuh
@MrGnuh 3 жыл бұрын
we believe in him! :D if anyone can handle it, he's the man!
@mcfry13
@mcfry13 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, but he just sounds so out of it. Maybe all the research took its toll on him.
@Shane-bf7jl
@Shane-bf7jl 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be a hard task, I'm sure he'll recover from it quickly
@michiganjack1337
@michiganjack1337 3 жыл бұрын
You start where any sane man would start and that would be Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime for the DS. Be brave. Be brave.
@rolandofeliciano6006
@rolandofeliciano6006 3 жыл бұрын
But where would that throw DQH 1+2 or do we count them as Hyrule Warriors
@ToHoldNothing
@ToHoldNothing 3 жыл бұрын
I still want to get the Dragon quest Monsters Joker games on DS, though at this point, probably $50 or more
@xtrwombat4876
@xtrwombat4876 3 жыл бұрын
in rocket slime you drive a tank that has the power to destroy the world.
@michiganjack1337
@michiganjack1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@rolandofeliciano6006 lol I think we just count them as Hyrule Warriors. 🖖
@michiganjack1337
@michiganjack1337 3 жыл бұрын
@Marcus Mysteriously Why thank you. Have you ever played Torneko: The Last Hope for the PSX? In an era where we were starved for DQ they gave us Torneko. Classic Enix. 🖖
@christianferloni2323
@christianferloni2323 3 жыл бұрын
I hadn't played a DQ game since the NES, but I recently bought the definitive edition of XI S and it is really great. They somehow managed to keep it classic in mechanics while feeling contemporary visually. It's really worth a play.
@arthursnyder6935
@arthursnyder6935 Жыл бұрын
If you own a ps2 or a 3ds, I would recommend Dragon Quest 8 because I think most people consider it to be one of the best games in the series
@samtheweebo
@samtheweebo 3 жыл бұрын
I remember trying to figure out the Dragon Quest timeline. I made a thread about it on dragon's den a long time ago. I think there is generally a timeline. Probably not super planed out, but when you look at the games, most have different worlds like a light world, a dark world, or a dream realm. So you could say that a game may be a future or past version of one of the worlds used in another game. The DQ builders is clearly an off shoot to the timelines, sort of a what if sort of game. I think the creators have a vague idea of how the most of the main games connect but they don't sweat it out too much and mostly include references to past games for fun. If you want, you can play any of the games standalone, but if you want you can pick them apart and connect everything together as long as you are okay with selectively ignoring some references and things.
@jasonmccrank4981
@jasonmccrank4981 3 жыл бұрын
Part of what makes Dragon Quest stand out amongst it's contemporaries is Dragon Ball author Akira Toriyama's character designs.
@T0TALLYAWESOMEGUY
@T0TALLYAWESOMEGUY 3 жыл бұрын
I sat patiently through the 20 min video waiting for him to acknowledge the DQ art and why its so similar to DBZ and even share the Dragon name but no luck. So you can confirm Toriyama actually did artwork for DQ?
@LeoRex286
@LeoRex286 3 жыл бұрын
He’s the main artist for the series, he released a fantastic art book that I have of games 1-10.
@LupinticDream
@LupinticDream 3 жыл бұрын
@@T0TALLYAWESOMEGUY Yes, Toriyama created the concept artworks for Dragon Quest. If you like Toriyama's art or if you like Dragon Quest, I'd recommend the 30th anniversary artbook, "Dragon Quest Illustrations," it's full of some great stuff.
@itsstothehtotheatothentoth3852
@itsstothehtotheatothentoth3852 3 жыл бұрын
@@LupinticDream Or old school dragon ball ;)
@seandobbins2231
@seandobbins2231 3 жыл бұрын
@@T0TALLYAWESOMEGUY yep, Toriyama did the character and monster designs for the DQ series, including the series mascot, the slime. He also did the same for Chrono Trigger and Blue Dragon. If you look at all his artwork for Dragon Ball and Dr. Slump you can see a lot of similarities in the artwork for those games.
@nobody13o7
@nobody13o7 3 жыл бұрын
Do one for Shin Megami Tensei, that's got more spinoffs and side series than anything else. Edit: seems like a lot of people would love to see you play some MT/SMT games James :)
@twistedluki2100
@twistedluki2100 3 жыл бұрын
Most of them are not connected in any way to each other
@dcb99filmz
@dcb99filmz 3 жыл бұрын
Persona 3-5 are barely connected to 1-2 it seems.
@twistedluki2100
@twistedluki2100 3 жыл бұрын
@@dcb99filmz I ment smt as a whole persona while smt is it's own timeline
@nobody13o7
@nobody13o7 3 жыл бұрын
@@twistedluki2100 I'll be honest, I just want him to play some SMT titles. lol
@goosechaser13
@goosechaser13 3 жыл бұрын
@@dcb99filmz not the same universe, SMT IF created the persona 1/2 universe, persona 2 innocent sin created the P3 up to 5 universe
@elijahbegay7608
@elijahbegay7608 3 ай бұрын
In loving memory of: Akira Toriyama(1955-2024) The Creator of: Dragon Ball & Character designer for Dragon Quest!
@CharlesKhan
@CharlesKhan 3 жыл бұрын
I loved Dragon Warrior so much as a kid, it means so much to me. Glad to see Dragon Quest becoming more popular in the west now, I’m a lifelong fan. And I’m glad to see what James has been spending his newfound time on. Maybe try Suikoden next.👍
@arthursnyder6935
@arthursnyder6935 8 ай бұрын
Or a Chronologically Confused on Castlevania
@edutukao
@edutukao 3 жыл бұрын
I love these episodes when he speaks more calmly and talks about the game
@penatio
@penatio 3 жыл бұрын
I wish that he'd make more movies like this and less but better quality nerd episodes.
@pattyofurniture694
@pattyofurniture694 3 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed
@corkman111
@corkman111 3 жыл бұрын
The real question is: “Where does Rocket Slime belong in the timeline?”
@NonisLuck
@NonisLuck 3 жыл бұрын
In the "best games ever" timeline
@Luxstar13
@Luxstar13 3 жыл бұрын
cibemassacre : this is confusing. Kingdom hearts : SWEATING PROFUSELY.
@nintendoloverin9567
@nintendoloverin9567 2 жыл бұрын
Man hearing him talk about timelines is really relaxing somehow. I wish he would make much more of this!
@gnunezmusic
@gnunezmusic 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Square Enix is sponsoring this video is just surreal. James and Cinemassacre have been growing a ton.
@FrancoisRoy
@FrancoisRoy 3 жыл бұрын
I assume you mean this is a f'ing disgrace, and that James should stop before the internets turns on him?
@TrevRockOne
@TrevRockOne 3 жыл бұрын
Totally undeserved
@abcd19801
@abcd19801 3 жыл бұрын
There's a connection in DQ8 you missed: in the monster arena, you face Torneko and Ragnar from DQ4
@magdalenusrex346
@magdalenusrex346 3 жыл бұрын
Young Yangus lets you meet Torneko too. So IV and VIII are coeval.
@JJK10293
@JJK10293 3 жыл бұрын
"This unique anime art" Me: Oh I *wonder* where that's going... *never brings it up* Me: "W-WHAT?!? AKIRA MF-ING TORIYAMA MY DUDE!!!"
@itsstothehtotheatothentoth3852
@itsstothehtotheatothentoth3852 3 жыл бұрын
MAN i kept on waiting and waiting and waiting and he never once mentioned it Huge opportunity missed.. We all know he's dragon ball but there are soo many more that james would know like chrono trigger and such.. very dissapointed
@JJK10293
@JJK10293 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsstothehtotheatothentoth3852 Exactly. Haven't even played Chrono Trigger and I know AT's the lead artist behind that visually appealing game. James made a big time oof.
@sufianramli8017
@sufianramli8017 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJK10293 You should try it. One of the best jrpgs ever made
@JJK10293
@JJK10293 3 жыл бұрын
@@sufianramli8017 It's on my bucket list. I still need to decide what platform to play it on. Maybe after I go through all the DQ games tho.
@seandobbins2231
@seandobbins2231 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJK10293 my suggestion for Chrono Trigger is the DS version. It has the anime cutscenes from the PS version, a couple of extra side areas and quests, and another ending, which I won't spoil, but explains something that was cut from Chrono Cross.
@superman6468
@superman6468 3 жыл бұрын
Now he has to talk about Shin Megami Tensei and and the Persona series next
@frostare
@frostare 3 жыл бұрын
It was already bizarre enough hearing him mention the obscure "Dragon Quest Monsters Caravan Heart" now he'll talk about "Demikids", too?
@pawned79
@pawned79 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with James’ dismissal of the US cover art for Dragon Warrior. When DW came out, I got this box set with maps and tips. All the art gave this epic, classic fantasy feel. I loved it!
@rsmith02
@rsmith02 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. With the old English text it didn't feel like a game with Japanese roots but rather European.
@stephenolder4552
@stephenolder4552 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I loved the dragon warrior art
@LeoMidori
@LeoMidori 3 жыл бұрын
I think they both have merit, I'm a sucker for Toriyama's artwork though. Personally I think it's great we can enjoy both Warrior and Quest for their own reasons, Japan doesn't really have that luxury.
@th3graveofwrath354
@th3graveofwrath354 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I live in the timeline where we get another *_chronologically confused_* episode. Still one of my favorite cinemassacre series
@ulfberht4431
@ulfberht4431 3 жыл бұрын
5:18 Still haven’t let go of that whole “Rocky stopped numbering their movie titles” thing after all these years, have you?
@jimpickens1701
@jimpickens1701 3 жыл бұрын
It's a grudge both James and I will hold forever
@KaiKrimson56
@KaiKrimson56 3 жыл бұрын
There should be laws that prevent this sort of thing. It's even worse when a movie sequel has the same name as the original.
@missachan867
@missachan867 3 жыл бұрын
Just when I become obsessed with the Dragon Quest franchise James puts out a video about it lol
@frostare
@frostare 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the questers!
@JoeyJ0J0
@JoeyJ0J0 3 жыл бұрын
Dragon Quest 3, 8 and 11 S are my favorites . The 3DS port of 8 is a surprisingly well done adaptation of the PS2 game
@optimoblunt2894
@optimoblunt2894 3 жыл бұрын
I just want all the DQ games on my switch
@timmyp6297
@timmyp6297 3 жыл бұрын
You would probably like 2 better then 11, seeing as you like 3 and 8.
@mfinite689
@mfinite689 3 жыл бұрын
That Dragon Warrior I box art, mention in Nintendo Power, and feature in an episode of Captain N told my nine-year-old self that this game was a winner.
@tycho042
@tycho042 3 жыл бұрын
It was strange just having James talking like a normal person for a video. I could get used to it
@Rad-Dude63andathird
@Rad-Dude63andathird 3 жыл бұрын
There's a looooot of videos like this out there lol
@jacktwelve1710
@jacktwelve1710 3 жыл бұрын
Wait what he’s talking about dragon quest
@KodywithaK
@KodywithaK 3 жыл бұрын
Dark Cloud for the next video lol
@GreenEyedDazzler
@GreenEyedDazzler 3 жыл бұрын
Nice PFP homie
@MultiMetalsnake
@MultiMetalsnake 3 жыл бұрын
That Toriyama art style is sick.
@rezaqalam482
@rezaqalam482 3 жыл бұрын
beacause of that i always thinking dragon quest and blue dragon is set in same universe😂
@justingates4985
@justingates4985 3 жыл бұрын
@@rezaqalam482 I treat Blue Dragon as an unofficial DQX, since we will never have X, and I won't play MMOs even if we did. I treat Lost Odyssey as the unofficial Final Fantasy XI for the same reason.
@elevate32767
@elevate32767 3 жыл бұрын
9:08 STTRONNNK Saiyan vibes here
@elevate32767
@elevate32767 3 жыл бұрын
@@justingates4985 interesting takes. blue dragon art was by Toriyama and Lost Odyssey by Sakaguchi.
@Sporkonafork1
@Sporkonafork1 3 жыл бұрын
@@justingates4985 FFXI is the best game ever made
@RavenHouseMystery
@RavenHouseMystery 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this video together, James. Very much appreciate all the research and work you did trying to make sense of the Dragon Quest storyline. Now, I have to get some aspirin and lie down because... head hurts.🥴
@TERMINAlvelocity
@TERMINAlvelocity 3 жыл бұрын
Very Nice, I'm glad to see another Dragon Quest Timeline.
@powergannon
@powergannon 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the bonus content in the remakes should be considered non-canonical to anyone who cares about fitting the timeline together.
@syolyte
@syolyte 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't apply to 7, original or remake. One needed to get everything or they don't get to continue after defeating Orgodemir. Forever end credits xD.
@Furkward
@Furkward 3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe the creators realized they wanted the games to be connected. So now any game here on is going to explain the timeline as eleven did. So the next game is further going to explain how the game works.
@danterodgers2304
@danterodgers2304 3 жыл бұрын
Im jealous of James's daughter imagine having this wholesome nerd as a dad. Love ya James
@Silverstar_
@Silverstar_ 3 жыл бұрын
Which one? He has two.
@drew4564
@drew4564 3 жыл бұрын
Right I would have loved my parents playing video games with me growing up
@EinManU
@EinManU 11 ай бұрын
yea but how does goku tie into this
@popcorn82b
@popcorn82b 3 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how happy it makes me to hear you bring up this series.
@RaccoonWithMatches
@RaccoonWithMatches 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that James is finally doing anything in regards to one of my favorite series - I remember sending James emails to do a review of Dragon Warrior back in 2009 lol
@ChaoticHoly
@ChaoticHoly 3 жыл бұрын
I had never even considered the idea of a unified timeline for the Dragon Quest series outside the obvious two trilogies & XI acting as an origin for both. I think I still won't; the Zelda timeline theory hurts my head as it is.
@HaruVibes_
@HaruVibes_ 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you make a similar vid about Ys. Another grandfather of Jrpg's not enough people know about.
@tuxedomark
@tuxedomark 3 жыл бұрын
I'm chronologically confused as to whether this video is in the AVGN timeline.
@Retrovibes
@Retrovibes 3 жыл бұрын
It's not. AVGN's pretty much gone and James is in the old Bruce Willis stage.
@phatmartyplays332
@phatmartyplays332 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve missed these chronologically confused vids now we need a ykwbs maybe one about Valentine’s Day ?
@jaredanacleto9239
@jaredanacleto9239 3 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting
@MrVariant
@MrVariant 3 жыл бұрын
Break up Thanksgiving, come back or begin anew after Valentine's, save holiday expenses if you can be a bad enough dude. Not sure what's bs about Valentine's day other than retail making that seasonal candy right after new year's. I just wouldn't give to someone too entitled and wants every week to be Valentine's.
@cataorshane
@cataorshane 3 жыл бұрын
I stumbled unto Dragon Warrior I because of a top 10 most influential RPGs of all time in a random website. I've been hooked since. As an european it can be tricky and expensive to get the games but they're well worth it.
@dtheengineer2746
@dtheengineer2746 3 жыл бұрын
I respect the fact that you want to buy original copies, and not just emulate
@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon 3 жыл бұрын
Just emulate them if they're so expensive...
@BokiJuda
@BokiJuda 3 жыл бұрын
When you talked about the artwork and character design on it, you should have mentioned it was all done by Akira Toriyama, and since Dragon Ball is the greatest anime ever, and it was really big in 1986, no wonder they decided to call him in to draw the artwork and the characters :D
@itsstothehtotheatothentoth3852
@itsstothehtotheatothentoth3852 3 жыл бұрын
ya lets not forget Dr. Slump, chrono Trigger and soooo much more.. really a huge blunder on Jaimes very disspointed
@darrentg6
@darrentg6 3 жыл бұрын
Never expected this kind of vid, but super happy to see it! DQ is easily my fav JRPG series, played every numbered entry atleast 2 times(across originals and re-releases), excluding X of course. Really well done!
@rangoononline
@rangoononline 3 жыл бұрын
Dragon Quest 3, 4, and 5 are three of my favorite games of all time. Really enjoyed this video!
@Rex-zr3iv
@Rex-zr3iv 3 жыл бұрын
17:03, i made the image of the zenithian sword, its really cool you put it in the video! :)
@user-cr9zo5yo9k
@user-cr9zo5yo9k 3 жыл бұрын
Well made dude!
@sackchief
@sackchief 3 жыл бұрын
@komodoxeno on Twitter made this image
@Chozo_Ghost
@Chozo_Ghost 3 жыл бұрын
Man I forgot how much I absolutely *_LOVE_* these Chronologically Confused videos. Would like to see more of them interspersed with the AVGN vids going forward :D
@arthursnyder6935
@arthursnyder6935 Жыл бұрын
He should do a Chronologically Confused on Castlevania
@ahedjehad8514
@ahedjehad8514 3 жыл бұрын
i'd love to see a "chronologically confused about the street fighter and final fight games" video. :) try and wrap around your head which one of the street fighter games is a sequel or a prequel. :P
@browngone1782
@browngone1782 3 жыл бұрын
Dragon Quest 9 is my favorite and the hardest imo
@heywoodjablome2767
@heywoodjablome2767 3 жыл бұрын
Just about every JRPG franchise from Square Enix, are chronologically confusing.
@rogregg29445
@rogregg29445 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed 😉🤣😂
@funnyvalentine6670
@funnyvalentine6670 3 жыл бұрын
I mean. Chrono Cross/Trigger? Super easy to follow
@funnyvalentine6670
@funnyvalentine6670 3 жыл бұрын
And its a Time Travel story(s) nonetheless
@livingminimumwage6359
@livingminimumwage6359 3 жыл бұрын
But oh so fun!
@figlopdan840822
@figlopdan840822 3 жыл бұрын
Dragon Quest V is one of my all time favourites.
@Toriksta-
@Toriksta- 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought in my life I would see AVGN talk about Dragon Quest. This is why I survived Covid
@aerospherology2001
@aerospherology2001 3 жыл бұрын
imagine a chronologically confused on the mario timeline
@TonyBMan
@TonyBMan 3 жыл бұрын
Well Mario is timeless so......
@KingTKalimari
@KingTKalimari 3 жыл бұрын
Dragon Quest XI debuting on Xbox store/gamepass and Dragon Quest Tact releasing now was clearly a planned sales move and I don't even care. Loved this series and glad to see it back
@getgud9251
@getgud9251 3 жыл бұрын
The last game he did chronologically confused on, was during his original KZfaq days...Christ its a lifetime ago
@Rad-Dude63andathird
@Rad-Dude63andathird 3 жыл бұрын
He did one on Kingdom Hearts like 2 years ago, so not *that* far back lol
@davidr8824
@davidr8824 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this video man! Thank you for years of fantastic entertainment.
@Sylkis89
@Sylkis89 3 жыл бұрын
What if... There is no timeline but there's just themes and easter eggs and cameos and fan service references. lol
@AwesomeHairo
@AwesomeHairo 3 жыл бұрын
You got it
@Gamerdude535
@Gamerdude535 3 жыл бұрын
Other than the obvious little trilogies like 11 to 1-3 and IV-VI
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