Dragon's Dogma 2 Fans Upset After The Previews - Frame Rate, Vocations, Armor & Demo Discussion

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3 ай бұрын

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@satyr2695
@satyr2695 3 ай бұрын
„We aiming around 30 fps, uncapped…” fucking joke in 2024
@unrealsimon93
@unrealsimon93 3 ай бұрын
The justification for armor simplification is so dumb..."we removed clothing slots and inner wear it in a way so that people wouldn't end up choosing the same things". You LITERALLY just made the system have LESS VARIETY which would be far more likely to force people to wear the same things. People wore the same things before because there were so few armor to choose from.
@slainemccool2875
@slainemccool2875 3 ай бұрын
The real reason was probably something technical or they went woke and this means they don't have to make the "sexy" under clothing
@unrealsimon93
@unrealsimon93 3 ай бұрын
@@slainemccool2875 I don't remember any of the underclothing being sexy back in DDDA. They probably just did it to reduce the work load and save money.
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp 3 ай бұрын
It's corporate oversight demanding more family friendly games so they can sell more across broader advertisement ecosystems. Typical sacrifice art for money mentality that losers have
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Thank the ethics department. This was done entirely to prevent people from making attractive female characters. 😒 They most likely had to beg for investors and they had to show clips from the previous game they made and woke investors didn't like what they saw. So the devs will shoot themselves in the foot for a loan on a game that will be hated by previous fans.
@michaelcrow6943
@michaelcrow6943 3 ай бұрын
Yep the less armor slots you add the more people are likely to wear the same thing. The reason alot of people wore the same stuff was because 1 mages and sorcerer pawns were op and 2 the stats on the gear.
@GeteMachine
@GeteMachine 3 ай бұрын
The armor change doesn't sound that good if there are less slots and all you get is just whole top sets and whole bottom sets. If there is less room to mix and match pieces then it just cuts down on customization options. The armor didnt need to be simpler, it just needed to be less streamlined.
@jeebeeheebee
@jeebeeheebee 3 ай бұрын
if it is just top half and bottom half, with no gauntlet category, that's a deal breaker, and i dont think I'll get the game
@godly_potatoe69xd19
@godly_potatoe69xd19 3 ай бұрын
@@jeebeeheebeeI’ll still buy it but I felt like there should have at least been a gauntlet category if they were gonna get rid of it
@marquisepixley684
@marquisepixley684 3 ай бұрын
@@jeebeeheebee that is a bad reason to not get the game
@juliustaylor9920
@juliustaylor9920 3 ай бұрын
​@@godly_potatoe69xd19its a joke...hes being sarcastic 🙄
@DrLaserz
@DrLaserz 3 ай бұрын
​@jeebeeheebee that's really all it takes? There's so many amazing looking features about this game. You do you but I wouldn't let yourself miss out over that.
@WompaStompaCyn
@WompaStompaCyn 3 ай бұрын
Am I misunderstand, or are you saying they gutted all the dress-up freedom from the first game down to 2 slots and saying that's somehow a good thing?
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp 3 ай бұрын
KZfaqrs arent allowed to criticize games before they release
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Correct. He is most likely being paid by the company to do damage control considering most fans are outraged.
@johnmccrystal3499
@johnmccrystal3499 3 ай бұрын
​@@blackdysfunction8260agreed I'm a huge dd1 fan play it twice a year full play through, since it released and I never use the same "Style"
@slainemccool2875
@slainemccool2875 3 ай бұрын
They had the opportunity to out Fashionsouls Elden Ring but nah lets give them less options
@ylyl
@ylyl 3 ай бұрын
THEY HAD IT... they could've rivaled Souls as a dark fantasy game... and now this
@ghosts14_2
@ghosts14_2 3 ай бұрын
I watch somanny 30 vs 60 FPS and i dont see the Differenz
@ylyl
@ylyl 3 ай бұрын
@@ghosts14_2 I'm being very sincere and not at all memeing here. I think you better go see an eye doctor, again not insulting or anything just truly worried about your eyes' condition
@Silkylobster
@Silkylobster 3 ай бұрын
I don't think we will get a play demo, but a Pawn/Arisen character creator, so you can just have your pawn built and ready to go
@BerryNiceToMeetYou
@BerryNiceToMeetYou 3 ай бұрын
I'd be happy with that 😂
@itzbigchicano001
@itzbigchicano001 3 ай бұрын
That would be awesome
@TheVideomaster138
@TheVideomaster138 3 ай бұрын
How did you manage to predict that lol
@chrisinfamous
@chrisinfamous 3 ай бұрын
brother literally called it
@iiReaperv2
@iiReaperv2 3 ай бұрын
Bro had inside information
@Vision667
@Vision667 3 ай бұрын
So Fashion's Dogma is out the window? No Mystic Knight? Capcom, you hurt my heart...
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
And because of these 2 things it's a hard pass for me. I'll be busy enjoying Ronin waiting for this to hit the bargain bin again.
@devanpretorius451
@devanpretorius451 3 ай бұрын
I genuinely am concerned now with the armor change because the freedom of customization of dd 1 was one of it's best parts of it, I wish they kept that system and just added more variety to THAT system instead of giving us this simplified system that'll ultimately be more limiting
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
It was the main aspect most people liked. Let's be real here most of us just wanted our silk lingerie back. Removing that was enough of a slap but now we can even remove certain parts of our armor to appease so out of touch woke investors? No thanks
@Kintabl
@Kintabl 3 ай бұрын
@@blackdysfunction8260 What?! Layer system was good because of armors.
@matiasdextre9080
@matiasdextre9080 3 ай бұрын
The outrage is mainly cause the vocations colors means nothing now, which is a weird design decision to keep them.
@jordonrenaud1178
@jordonrenaud1178 3 ай бұрын
Yeah like the trickster being a hybrid vocation with the Colours pink & purple. A hybrid of what exactly? What is the pink & purple colour? It just doesn’t make sense, especially how we know other hybrid vocations like the mystic spear hand is a combination of fighter & sorcerer. All in all after 12 years we only got 2 new vocations, one of which is very passive & does no actual damage. It’s a shame ngl but I hope other aspects of the game make up for this. I don’t want to pay extra money for vocations in a dlc. I’m still excited though, but my hype has certainly gone down a bit unfortunately
@marquisepixley684
@marquisepixley684 3 ай бұрын
You are wrong
@marquisepixley684
@marquisepixley684 3 ай бұрын
@@jordonrenaud1178 I disagree with you
@marquisepixley684
@marquisepixley684 3 ай бұрын
@@jordonrenaud1178 it doesn't have to make sense
@cream6237
@cream6237 3 ай бұрын
@@marquisepixley684 It doesn't have to, but it should make sense. What doesn't make sense is the absence of 6 vocations. We only have 2 advanced and 2 hybrid. If there are 4 basic vocations we should get 4 advanced and 6 hybrid. Even if trickster is just it's own thing, we are still missing 6 vocations.
@greendusk93
@greendusk93 3 ай бұрын
A simple transmog system could have solved the armor problem.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
They aren't interested in "solving the problem" they are being dishonest now after already admitting it was to prevent us from running around half clothed (censorship, controlling what you wear in a game as an adult, there was no nudity and no need for it they caved to the ethics department that now runs capcom) they assumed they could just lie and say it was necessary which obviously was a dumb choice because we all know that's not true it was just an excuse to appease e.s.g scores and to cut corners on development time/resources on a game where 90% of the players played because of the layer armor and armor choices.
@ericwalker6477
@ericwalker6477 3 ай бұрын
I knew something was up when they didn’t confirm or deny 30fps til now. They didn’t want to upset ppl and turn them off until after they got their preorders
@itzbigchicano001
@itzbigchicano001 3 ай бұрын
Oh no, that’s the first time an industry has done that 😮😮😮
@ericwalker6477
@ericwalker6477 3 ай бұрын
@@itzbigchicano001 it’s definitely not and that doesn’t make it ok.
@dantemiles689
@dantemiles689 3 ай бұрын
Well I refunded my pre-order because of the frame rate
@MikeRavia-xp5ig
@MikeRavia-xp5ig 3 ай бұрын
Not playing a modern game at 30fps. Not gonna do it.
@Gokz93
@Gokz93 3 ай бұрын
Well I wont be buying it either.
@GangStalker17
@GangStalker17 3 ай бұрын
If they were concerned about people going for the same armor equipment at higher levels… why not create MORE options rather than creating sets for them? Seems counterintuitive, no?
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
It was just an excuse for laziness and censorship.
@michaelbennett3911
@michaelbennett3911 3 ай бұрын
I'm not too fond of this new armor system. You don't mess with perfection. Willingly that is. Most likely it was a push from the higher ups. (To quote on quote) simplify things. And keep things 17 + rating.
@marquisepixley684
@marquisepixley684 3 ай бұрын
I disagree with you
@tj3423
@tj3423 3 ай бұрын
That's the one thing I'm pretty bummed about, I used to praise DD1 for having 7 equip slots you can mix and match when almost no other games have that much customization.
@RpgAddict325
@RpgAddict325 3 ай бұрын
The first game was good, but nothing about it was perfection.
@itzbigchicano001
@itzbigchicano001 3 ай бұрын
@@marquisepixley684simple, refined. Finished. Good comment. 😂
@ulfrey1155
@ulfrey1155 3 ай бұрын
The armor system in the first game wasn't perfect at all. It was perfected only in the MMO, in which you could set an entire custom look on top of any gear you were actually using.
@tonycavalieri6841
@tonycavalieri6841 3 ай бұрын
Not having an advanced vocation for wach base vocation is wierd AF. Im still playing this game though.
@kilbymorgan8626
@kilbymorgan8626 3 ай бұрын
Capcom posted trailers explaining the difference between Starter, advanced, and Hybrid Vocations. Showed the colors and left hints for speculation just for all of it not to mean a thing. Someone is lying
@zeroao6005
@zeroao6005 3 ай бұрын
@@kilbymorgan8626 or they just misunderstood what Itsuno-san said
@beamzsalt4252
@beamzsalt4252 3 ай бұрын
🤓
@JosePereira-px4gn
@JosePereira-px4gn 3 ай бұрын
​@@zeroao6005 i read another interview, and itsuno said that 10 vocations were shown, and thats what they planned for the moment, maybe he is referring to 10 vocations to be shown before release :( lets hope that
@F_Yale
@F_Yale 3 ай бұрын
Don't complain about the slop as you're scarfing it down, bub.
@iambeloved496
@iambeloved496 3 ай бұрын
It sucks to add vocations later because there's nothing quite like the first experience in a game like this. Many of us want to play our preferred vocation as our first experience. With vocations coming out as dlc's, this means in mid to late game or even on our 2nd or 3rd playthrough, we'll then get to experience the vocation options we want but we will never be able to have it for our first playthrough when the world and all of the events were new to us. That's what I'm most upset about.
@Digitalcanvas77
@Digitalcanvas77 3 ай бұрын
Most likely expansion feature. DLC wasnt really a thing back in the day. IIRC it wasnt even a thing yet. At least with Capcom
@guisergestalt9510
@guisergestalt9510 3 ай бұрын
@@Digitalcanvas77 DD1 had dlc though, the weapon and armour packs along with Bitterblack Isle
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
They clearly had some people that were on the spectrum in that development team. They literally went against EVERYTHING fans wanted and liked. They censored the game, removed the most liked outfits, took it a step farther preventing you from removing layers, and removed the most used vocations from the game that people enjoyed using. What an idiot move.
@iambeloved496
@iambeloved496 3 ай бұрын
@@blackdysfunction8260 I know it was a horrible move. All of what you mentioned sucks. The game being censored is new to me though. What's that about?
@CannonStrike
@CannonStrike 3 ай бұрын
One thing to note is that on the IGN preview they said it was 30 at 4k. So it'll probably run better at 1080, though I was always gonna play this on PC so it doesn't really matter to me.
@Velocifero
@Velocifero 3 ай бұрын
there is no 1080p mode... There's just one mode that runs at 25-35 fps.
@reecedactyl
@reecedactyl 3 ай бұрын
@@Velocifero lol
@taali_xo
@taali_xo 3 ай бұрын
lmao YIKES@@Velocifero
@MilkyJoe73
@MilkyJoe73 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be so sure. The requirements on steam stated rtx2080 for 30fps with expected frame drops iirc. Plus it has denuvo which won't help Might be able to squeeze 60 with really good hardware or tweaking the settings but still far from ideal
@scragglie
@scragglie 3 ай бұрын
@@MilkyJoe73we aint talking about pc cope coperson
@natbvm1880
@natbvm1880 3 ай бұрын
One thing that could help the armor situation is if we are able to dye our outfits. That would be reaaaaally dope.
@JKSmith-qs2ii
@JKSmith-qs2ii 3 ай бұрын
I am going to be honest if the game does not have a 1080p closer to 60fps mode or something I might just skip it on release day.
@wrathoftheflyingspaghettim850
@wrathoftheflyingspaghettim850 3 ай бұрын
Such a pathetic mentality people have these days where if it's not 60 the game is just worthless. You literally care more about fps and dropping a few frames for like 3 seconds than you do about enjoying a video game. It's ridiculous.
@gv2212
@gv2212 3 ай бұрын
Same here definetly not buying. Maybe I will but it at an uncapped 30$.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
There is no reason to preorder just wait until people show you how bad we all know this is going to be. Get rise of the ronin instead team ninja is a reliable studio that has made a few really great games recently in nioh and wo long.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Dude just stop ✋ I know you're being paid to shill and "you have to do your job" but coming on here and pretending like you're the only one who's sane doesnt work. Fps is important the fact that you said what you just said proves to everyone who reads this without a shadow of a doubt you are either not a gamer or extremely old and have low standards on what is acceptable performance in 2024. Go download bloodborne and try to play it right now you'll probably have a seizure from the fps 😆 🤣 stop being a wacko of course fps matters and is why most new people will cancel their preorder snd the rest will cancel due to censorship, removal of armor layers to solidify the censorship intended, and the removal of some favorite vocations. 😀 keep trying to change the narrative people will still be canceling their orders.
@psychogore
@psychogore 3 ай бұрын
About vocations : no ranger, no mystic knight, but we get mage & sorcerer ? Also, the trickster looks like it's an hybrid of two colors not seen anywhere else. As for the armour and gear changes : maybe they get some perks that favours different gameplay style, so people won't just choose the equipment with the most defence stats.
@jefthereaper
@jefthereaper 3 ай бұрын
I'm not concerned about anything except the idea that Alchemist might not be included. I mean come on, that's THE class from online that had to be added here.
@syranith2822
@syranith2822 3 ай бұрын
They did mention that more classes will be added after launch in future updates
@kenpachi1989
@kenpachi1989 3 ай бұрын
@@syranith2822 no they did not, quite the opposite in fact
@theum2138
@theum2138 3 ай бұрын
@@syranith2822 istg if they do that I'll be so disappointed. Either release the game full with all the intended content or delay it further. It'd be so scummy if they just release future vocations as dlc's
@stonaraptor8196
@stonaraptor8196 3 ай бұрын
online had an alchemist class? Man the more I hear about DDonline the more pissed I am I missed out.
@jefthereaper
@jefthereaper 3 ай бұрын
@@stonaraptor8196 Never got to play it either. The company closed down the worldwide servers very quickly, only the asian branch remained for a few years before they closed it down too. Waste of resources I say, should have just made it a single player game with optional co-up. Summon your friends into your game like Dark Souls (but less shiny and with less backstabbing)
@totallyalex2607
@totallyalex2607 3 ай бұрын
I'm really just upset at the removal of layered armor/clothing. It allowed for such cool looking characters. All they needed to add was a transmog system😭😭😭
@multipurposepaperbox
@multipurposepaperbox 3 ай бұрын
removing 4 or 5 armor slots, and the missing dark green and blue/green vocations really sucks though
@TheRealF.ckingJesus
@TheRealF.ckingJesus 3 ай бұрын
Why do you think there won’t be dark green and green blue vocation?
@TheRealF.ckingJesus
@TheRealF.ckingJesus 3 ай бұрын
Nevermind, but maybe he’s just lying
@finbharasa7777
@finbharasa7777 3 ай бұрын
​@@TheRealF.ckingJesus Itsuno said in a recent interview with Eurogamer that there will only be the 10 vocations at launch
@mokadelic4037
@mokadelic4037 3 ай бұрын
@@TheRealF.ckingJesus because the devs said so. At least in the base game, though I'm pretty sure they will add more vocations with future dlcs. They kept the color scheme for a reason. Most people complaining are little kids. Main concern right now should be performance, everything else is more than fine.
@TheRealF.ckingJesus
@TheRealF.ckingJesus 3 ай бұрын
@@mokadelic4037 Youre absolutely right, although it’s not not often for game devs to lie for the surprise.
@SEVENTHSIGHN
@SEVENTHSIGHN 3 ай бұрын
Dragons Dogma had one of the best armour systems I can think of, now it sounds like they've gone and messed it up and gimped it.
@juliustaylor9920
@juliustaylor9920 3 ай бұрын
Good thing the game isnt centered around armour customization
@AngriestPeanut
@AngriestPeanut 3 ай бұрын
@@juliustaylor9920No game is “centered” around armor customization, that doesn’t change the fact that simplifying a system people enjoyed the complexity of is stupid
@juliustaylor9920
@juliustaylor9920 3 ай бұрын
@@AngriestPeanut i didnt say it was stupid, simplifying it doesn't make or break the game. I mean something like that shouldnt be a deal breaker.
@SEVENTHSIGHN
@SEVENTHSIGHN 3 ай бұрын
​@@juliustaylor9920 Yes that is true and over all as a big fan of the first game, I'm really happy with what I've seen and heard so far. Except for the news about removing the layered system, this system made DD feel a little bit more unique. If Itsuno wanted to address players all looking the same towards end game as he stated, they could have left the layered system in and also introduced Transmog to acompany it for DD2. But who knows maybe he didn't want to allocate the resources just for that.
@juliustaylor9920
@juliustaylor9920 3 ай бұрын
@@SEVENTHSIGHN yea, itsuno saying players looking to similar towards the end game is a bullshit excuse. If players dont have a problem with it then dont change it...if it aint broke, dont fix it. I think we'll be dine though.
@skyuru
@skyuru 3 ай бұрын
And i knew it!! I knew that they simplified the armor options and system, that what im the most upset, i loved that i had so many choices in the previous game and wearing my character as i wanted, WTF seriously...now we cant because they want make the game more "easy" for the modern kids and they found an excuse to remove silk lingeries and more, im done, i pass...i can still play Elden Ring lol
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Removing the silk lingerie was the nail in the coffin for them. The wokesters can whine all they want 90% of the people played this game wore the lingerie even females who played did so. 🙄 They admitted they removed it for censorship purposes then they tried to lie about it by admitting they weren't competent as devs and couldn't find a way to balance out a "layering system".
@bladeofmird
@bladeofmird 3 ай бұрын
When i first played the vanilla Dragon's Dogma i played it on a PS3 and i didn't cared at all about the frame drops and still ended up loving the game. Of course i'd love 60fps but i'm fine with a stable 30fps as well. For me so far the only minor thing i consider a "downgrade" compared to the original are the walking and running animations of the main character that comparetively look stiff and not as dynamic as in the previous game. To be more precise it's the lack of tilting of the upper body and head of the character while he is walking or running that looks off. But i know i'll eventually get used to it.
@slainemccool2875
@slainemccool2875 3 ай бұрын
It was like below 20 on ps3 lol and yeah I still loved it
@MikeRavia-xp5ig
@MikeRavia-xp5ig 3 ай бұрын
That was 10 years ago. Still makes no sense there hasn't been a 60fps version of part one.
@donaldpowell44
@donaldpowell44 3 ай бұрын
But the 30 fps isn't stable here, its gonna be all over the place depending ehats on screen with very common dips into the 20s. Good luck having any sort of mage in your party on ps5 with all the lagging spell effects.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Everything about this is a downgrade. Censored, outfits removed, layers removed, combat worsened (missing top tier classes), abysmal performance, and devs that defend all of this behavior. This is a downgrade
@ylyl
@ylyl 3 ай бұрын
copium after copium after copium, first is "there will be more vocation", and "uncapped framerate is good", and a lot of this will change in the release, etc... yet these guys still keep coping with the "imagined" future dlc vocation. We long waited for DD2 but the copium this community has is CRAZY. Any other opinion will be called doompost...
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
I'm not going to support censorship/blackwashing/laziness anymore. Give the harpies their nipples back, give 90% of the community their lingerie back, give people their vocations back, fix your lazy attempt at a frame rate, and stop lying to customers/fans about why you're making bad decisions no one believes the layered armor excuse.
@rhodan74
@rhodan74 3 ай бұрын
I don't get the reasoning behind the new armor system. Once you obtained the best weapons you were free to equip ANY armor/clothing you wanted because defense/resistances were a non-issue. You just killed everything so fast or were so skilled that you got hit maybe once or twice.
@Haitch_Kay
@Haitch_Kay 3 ай бұрын
I mean that's just not true at all lmao. Especially not with Dark Arisen.
@rhodan74
@rhodan74 3 ай бұрын
@@Haitch_KayMy experience says otherwise. I regularly complete DDDA at lvl100 only equipped with basic gransys armor but DDDA weapons. It's all about periapths, crystals, special arrows etc etc etc.....most of the monsters don't fight back ever.
@rjenyawd
@rjenyawd 3 ай бұрын
@@rhodan74 100% this. If armor stats mattered that much, people would never be able to gold dragon forge the tattered fishermen's garb. The stats on the armor didnt matter like, at all. Players set and stacked stats by weapon equips, rings, and meticulously min-max leveling a vocation roadmap. The reason everyone wore the same armor over lvl. 60 was because the BBI armor sets looked sick af, and because (just like dark souls) there were only like 4 sets of clothes that looked fem for female avatars/pawns. (Literally, every girl pawn is either wearing the maiden set, the flame skirt, the queen's garb, or Madeline's merchant dress.)
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
It is true....hard mode lingerie everyone does it but you.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
The reasoning was they wanted to remove the ability for players to create attractive females half dressed. The company apparently had to beg for investment and had to show their old product. The woke investors don't like freedom or choice they want you to do what they want. So against fans and their better judgment they made a censored debacle that will be worse than the first game due to them removing everything that anyone liked about this game. They ruined the only things that made this game a hit (certain op vocations and lingerie) without this it's just another bargain bin game that you get when it's 10$ or free.
@AlehorTheShadow
@AlehorTheShadow 3 ай бұрын
I was rather dissapointed when we first heard rumors about cut layer system. With new lvl cap and simplified armor system i believe armors themselves will have less stat impact and come down to armor class in terms of defence, and there will be way more variety to choose from without compromising character power/defence(depending on armor class) in the later game. Theres no layers but we've already seen multiple variations of same armors with/without shirts/chainmails or other alterations in promotional materials. There might be less BBI like grind for power creep but more rng grind for fashion as someone(forgot who) stated that enemies can also drop equipment that's no longer tied to chest loot. We will see on release, it might play out better than concerns make it look like.
@joseijosei
@joseijosei 3 ай бұрын
I was using a video editor and sheets to manually count frames and get the framerate of a clip I thought had really bad framerate, and I wasn't wrong. The framerate was fluctuating between 23 fps and 28 fps. Then, I got tired of doing this, because counting frames manually is painful, and I wanted to see the framerate from the trailer. It took me around 12 hours (that was my day) and many cups of tea to figure out a way to make a script that would let me get the framerate of the gameplays inside 60 fps videos, without the need of uncompressed clips, and with a very small margin of error. Yes... I had to make that, because apparently no one did this before. Many professionals say it can't work, but you know what? Raw gameplay is something I can't get, so I at least tried. I tested it downloading 1050Ti benchmark videos, because I knew that GPU rarely runs heavy games at over 60 fps, and the framerate my script was showing was exactly the same I was seeing in the benchmark. I also tested it using a 15 fps vs 60 fps video, to see how it would handle drops and jumps, and it worked. When I was seeing 15 fps gameplay, the script was showing 15 fps (it needs like one second to start showing the actual framerate after a clip changes), and when I was seeing 60 fps gameplay, it was showing 60 fps. For me, that was enough. You are free to ignore me if you don't trust my results. After this, I got the Dragon's Dogma 2 trailer, ran the script, and the results were... the framerate were everywhere. Like, the clip where a mage, or sorcerer, uses the ice skill, was in the 20s. The clip where an archer fights a lich during the night was in the 40s when the archer was using the bow, and in the 30s when he was running towards the lich. One of the clips at the very end (I think it actually was the last gameplay clip in the video), of what maybe was a fighter, because he had a sword and shield, was in the 50s. That was the highest one in the entire trailer. One of the other clips was in the 40s to, but most of the other ones were in the 20s and 30s, and one or two in particular had a cap, because the framerate was exactly 30 fps during those clips. They all were short btw. If you saw the trailer, you know. All I got from this is that... performance mode may not be a thing, which sucks. Or, at least, if there is one, and they don't improve the performance by the release date, then we're not going to get 60 fps. My build has a 4080 and I game on PC. I don't own a PS5 or an Xbox Series, but I care about how game runs there because worst performance in consoles means higher PC requirements, which also means people I know may have a bad experience. I don't like this, and I hope they improve the performance.
@biscottibandit2709
@biscottibandit2709 3 ай бұрын
This script sounds interesting. Is there any way for you to share or verify it on your channel?
@Tackitt
@Tackitt 3 ай бұрын
Wish you made videos
@joseijosei
@joseijosei 3 ай бұрын
@@biscottibandit2709 Sorry, I didn't check this channel before. Sure, man, just tell me what you want to see. Any particular gameplays? I can leave the 1050Ti Jedi Survivor Benchmark to prove the script works and the Dragon's Dogma 2 trailer in the same video. I'll probably just use random numbers as the title, because I'm not interested in views. Keep in mind that the trailer changes scenes pretty often, and, for obvious reasons, the script doesn't show the real framerate of that new clip during the first second of each clip after a transition (duh). I hope I don't have to explain why. It is pretty obvious and normal. I would get the same result even if Capcom gave me an uncompressed trailer. It is just the type of transitions they use, or the fact that two different clips have two different framerates, but after that first second, you see the real framerate for the rest of the clip. Small detail, but I think it is important to keep in mind. I was thinking about doing something with this, because it's not like it is something no one would be interested in, but I'm know as a theorycrafter/math guy, not a tech guy, and I'm part of the Spanish community. That said, it looks like it's hard for gaming channels to realise that Dragon's Dogma 2 is going to be a CPU heavy game (they ask you for a Ryzen 3600 for 30 fps, I mean, bro...), and for that reason, just like with Baldur's Gate 3 during Act 3, lowering the resolution will not make the game run at 60 fps. It would still be running in the 30s on a PS5, even at 720p, because of the CPU, so what developers do is using higher resolutions. At least that's what I'm guessing, based on the fach that they show you the requirements for 4K 30 fps on PC, but they never mention 1440p 60 fps (we all know we PC gamers want at least 60 fps in our games), and they ask you for a CPU that is similar (actually a tiny bit better) than the one on the PS5. But anyways, if you want to find me on Discord, it's "Hessey". I'm not that... unknown, and you are free to try to learn about me, but it would be better if you could let me know when you sent me a message, because I might not see it. I have to accept messages, basically. That's why.
@joseijosei
@joseijosei 3 ай бұрын
@@Tackitt I do, but not on this channel, or about these kind of stuffs (not even in English either). You can read my last answer here, if you want to know more, or add something to that. Maybe you want to see something in particular? Just let me know.
@biscottibandit2709
@biscottibandit2709 3 ай бұрын
Yeah your design sounds genius and the explanation for WHY it's going to be CPU intensive makes a lot of sense denoting the evidence and referencing BG3 as an example on why reducing resolution wouldn't increase fps IF your pc just can't think any faster. If you had some videos pointing to this software that's able to see how it can calculate the refresh rate of the game or trailers rather and use Jedi survivor too, also a good example because I got burned hard on that game where my cpu was getting hit but my gpu had like 70% free to be allocated for its processes.
@heyfell4301
@heyfell4301 3 ай бұрын
Itsuno's quote is extremely non-committed, if you see in other interviews he seems pretty much to just be saying "yeah, these are the only classes we'll announce," which due to what appears to be a mistranslation was interpreted as "there will only be 10 classes." It's one of the worst cases of overreaction I've ever seen from a community and I feel ashamed to see it's coming from the DD community, one of the most wholesome I've known in years.
@StarWarsMatcha
@StarWarsMatcha 3 ай бұрын
Yeah for real.. no wonder our planet and world is in trouble in real life and no wonder us original fans of the game wanna play this game more than any other game because we’re going to save the world in the game and simultaneously Save the Real World outside the game. Right My Arisen(s)? Haha 😳🤭😅 Just have faith Arisen cuz Thou Art is spiritual warfare now, you’ll see. JUST WATCH WHAT HAPPENS. 😇 Use your sword 🗡 Arisen & your Word & Will use this game and your voice to save us all through your own destiny. Follow your heart Master. You have to believe in yourself again my Arisen AND Remember who you really are inside. 🐲❤️‍🔥🐲 Now go forth in your truth and defeat the dragon least you slay yourself. By Yours Truly- Schizophrenic Rant 🤍
@Shiftshapercat
@Shiftshapercat 3 ай бұрын
Goes to show that mistranslations or manipulations of information can do so much damage.
@ChristianKessler4185
@ChristianKessler4185 3 ай бұрын
happens, if you make such shitty advertising mixed together with unfitting confusing elements that you dont clear up at ALL, whats the meaning behind it, just to stay then quite for months and clear up fucking NOTHING until now.. yopu cant blame then the people for overreacting..blame capcom for their garbage marketing, because this overreaction wouldnt have happened at all, if: 1: They would have kept the Trickster either a secret, or would have made it into the Green/Blue-Class instead of making this shitty confusing Pink/Purple thing out of it without explaining anything behind that decision 2: They would be clearer with giving the game consistency, by announcing rather the Advanced Green Class and Advanced Yellow Class together with a Green hybrid, like say Green/Red or Green/Blue like mentioned, instead of announcing the Warfarer, which should have been kept better as a Playthrough Secret to unlock for starting a NG+, instead of announcing it now, further putting only oil into the fire of the people, that eagerly wanted to say, what Capcom actually makes out of the two split classes, that were once the Strider, because these two are naturelly the most interesting ones of the 4, because the split made clear also, that these two will end up in two complete new Classes and naturally people were very interested in it if Green/Yellow might eventually be the return of the Strider/Seeker 3: The constant bad news about the terrible bad optimized FPS in the game that are a discrace for PS5 with uncapped 30 fps for a AAA game also made things not any better, that topic was just only the main ventile that led to the point, that the pot was overboiling in the end, addign then there for many the "bad news", that the game looks more n more rushed, half hearted, n content cutted again like DD1, was just basically the nail in the coffin for many people. Would have been Capcom more open with us from begin on, then we wouldnt have had now THIS kind of strong negative emotive reaction from the community, as like when you keep everyone in the dark like until fucking few weeks before release, kind of as if they are too scared to tell the truth simply EARLIER, because they likely KNEW, or kind of expected how people would react to these news naturally, if you constantly barely tell the people anything about the game, add even extra on top of that confusing weird things to it that you dont explain then AT ALL. In that kind of way Capcom did basicalyl the complete opposite of what for example SE did with FF7 Rebirth, which did a really great advertising job, for alot of peopel they even "showed too much" in their opinion, when then even just scratched still on the tip of the iceberg!!, but when the game game out, peoople were hyped and they really knew, what kind of game they can expect to see, when its there ... thats something I can barely say at all about Dragons Dogma 2 until today ...
@AngriestPeanut
@AngriestPeanut 3 ай бұрын
@@StarWarsMatchaSchizophrenic rant
@StarWarsMatcha
@StarWarsMatcha 3 ай бұрын
@@AngriestPeanut Go do one, you’re stupid bro.. my cousin’s schizophrenic so fuck off!! 😈’s 💋
@camlot0746
@camlot0746 3 ай бұрын
The closer we get to release the more worried I become.
@mastazenkei
@mastazenkei 3 ай бұрын
Same , wanted to preorder , but i'll wait a few days
@ericwalker6477
@ericwalker6477 3 ай бұрын
Yea they didn’t confirm or deny 30fps til now. This may be the first time I’m disappointed in Capcom
@76marex
@76marex 3 ай бұрын
because your master yt told you that
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp 3 ай бұрын
How dare you use patience and critical thinking?! You'll hurt the bootlickers feelings! Lol
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
I've been worried since it was announced. They were more worried about making sure people couldn't wear what they wanted to appease investors instead of worrying about improving their game. This was simply a waste of time they thought they could screw fans over and still please their investors and this never works they just ruined their careers.
@Northwind82
@Northwind82 3 ай бұрын
I keep getting less and less hyped more I learn about this game.
@GodEater015
@GodEater015 3 ай бұрын
Why? Because of frame rates? I rather play a great game with weak frame rates than play a bad one.
@haiderkhan6486
@haiderkhan6486 3 ай бұрын
That's a you problem sis 💅.
@ylyl
@ylyl 3 ай бұрын
@@GodEater015 I rather play a great game with great framerate than a bad framerate one
@Gokz93
@Gokz93 3 ай бұрын
@@GodEater015no such thing exists
@ragvald8835
@ragvald8835 3 ай бұрын
​@@Gokz93Bloodborne is a great game and it's only available at 30fps.
@_mylastname
@_mylastname 3 ай бұрын
If this releases with 30fps, l have to pass..😢
@ylyl
@ylyl 3 ай бұрын
itsuno says the game is aiming for around 30fps, so it is confirmed
@wheeleee937
@wheeleee937 3 ай бұрын
@@ylyl30fps at 4k that’s basically quality mode. If there is a performance mode with 60fps then I’m back in. But nah I didn’t pay $500 plus $70 for a game on previous generation frame rate. Too much money, too much time, too much disappointment..
@wrathoftheflyingspaghettim850
@wrathoftheflyingspaghettim850 3 ай бұрын
​@@wheeleee937 if dropping a couple frames for like 3 seconds is this big a deal to you the problem is you
@edwarddonald2792
@edwarddonald2792 3 ай бұрын
No, the problem is the devs using a piece of shit engine with poor optimization. A game releasing in 2024 with Quality AND Performance mode is crazy. ​@@wrathoftheflyingspaghettim850
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Go away Troll it's not working. We aren't buying this crap.
@kingoblivious3477
@kingoblivious3477 3 ай бұрын
I’m not upset at all. I do dislike that there won’t be inner layered armor anymore though. Inner layered armor like shirts pants and boots were such a good role play mechanic for the dnd type world
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Lol enjoy your thick bulky ugly armor and 18 fps.
@agorilla7137
@agorilla7137 3 ай бұрын
I think it's a bad direction to take with reducing the number of classes, especially if the plan is to release them via DLC later on. Buying DLC that's only a class will always feel bad. As far as the clothes, my initial response is disappointment, largely because the layering system of the first game was something I really enjoyed about it. I think wanting to have more diversity in gear at the end game is fine if not unnecessary, but it should be done via adding onto the system that already existed instead of removing it. Make it so the end level gear is still in layers, and that those layers have different effects so it's not just one set is better than everything else. Considering how the game seems to be putting an emphasis on being ready when you move (tents taking up space, semi-permanent health loss), I was initially hoping that the clothing layer systems would be something you can't do on the fly, instead needing to prepare before hand for the journey or monsters you'll face.
@marquisepixley684
@marquisepixley684 3 ай бұрын
I disagree with you
@kenpachi1989
@kenpachi1989 3 ай бұрын
They aren't reducing the number of classes though, Dragon's Dogma had 9 and this has 10, and in both cases 6 are available for pawns. The bit about clothing seems a bit stupid though, if they wanted to give players freedom to look however they wanted they could have just added transmog, it's not that hard.
@zwei3179
@zwei3179 3 ай бұрын
i dont trust the wording there cant only be 10 cause it counters a statement by the creator about hidden classes
@agorilla7137
@agorilla7137 3 ай бұрын
okay@@marquisepixley684
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Bad developers coupled with censorship is a death sentence.
@TK-zd7ym
@TK-zd7ym 3 ай бұрын
The framerate is absolutely something to be concerned about.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
These cope smokers don't understand how unplayable 15-25 fps is in 2024. Try redownloading a game like bloodborne and turning it on you will think your console is broken it will look so weird.
@umanitalks
@umanitalks 3 ай бұрын
@@blackdysfunction8260I’ve been playing dragons dogma dark arisen and 30 isn’t bad as long as I don’t come from playing Spiderman 2. Been playing ff7 rebirth and the performance mode is cool but it dips and the graphics are meh in that mode. I’m not too upset still getting it but I understand the outrage online
@RunnyElephant44
@RunnyElephant44 3 ай бұрын
​@umanitalks spider-man 2 had so many proformance issues that still aren't fixed
@RunnyElephant44
@RunnyElephant44 3 ай бұрын
​@@umanitalksrebirth is so good so far loving it barley played it cause working so much
@biglittleboy9827
@biglittleboy9827 3 ай бұрын
Yeah but because of those greedy corrupted youtubers who are just parroting what capcom tell them to say for $, capcom can get away with everything. The game can run at 10fps that some corrupted youtubers like him would still find a way to tell us that this is acceptable and even a good thing. They are so disgusting to me. Irl those people would sell their entire family for 200$.
@RedSetLetsGo
@RedSetLetsGo 3 ай бұрын
imagine not being able to make a game 60 fps in the year 2024 it's just sad
@liquid1514
@liquid1514 3 ай бұрын
they can, they just didn't
@RedSetLetsGo
@RedSetLetsGo 3 ай бұрын
@@liquid1514 yeah no, aint no way any dev wouldn’t if they couldn’t. It’s common sense
@liquid1514
@liquid1514 3 ай бұрын
@@RedSetLetsGo well, the game run's at 4k uncapped 30fps which was able to get to 40fps, so if they added an update with a performance mode that ran at 1440p they would get 60fps
@SaintJ92
@SaintJ92 3 ай бұрын
@@RedSetLetsGoplenty of big games play at 60 my guy. Plenty of them. It’s possible. Now whether they are talented enough devs to achieve it is another thing. Clearly maybe they aren’t.
@RedSetLetsGo
@RedSetLetsGo 3 ай бұрын
@@SaintJ92 you don’t say you literally just repeat my point my guy
@Hardrada_129
@Hardrada_129 3 ай бұрын
I'm bummed about the vocations. I really liked Mystic Knight in DD1 and was hoping for it return. I liked being able to tank with heavy armor and the big greatshield, etc. I appreciate fighter being given some MK-esque abilities, but I personally want more than that.
@voltaicburst4279
@voltaicburst4279 3 ай бұрын
Game devs hates that stuff for some reason, it always gets replaced by fast paced zippy adhd classes. Imagine: Maces or even flails with new moveset. Great cannon, Sky rapture, and ruinious sigil as core skills. 15+ new skills unique to mystic knight. then maybe the self enchantments give a special elemental explosion effect to make it unique. i feel like people would've been absolutely ecstatic for that, but no mage and sorcerer stay yet mystic knight wasn't unique enough despite being the most perfect depiction of a "battle mage" i've ever seen? it only had like 5 or 6 truly unique moves and it was incredible, all they had to do was add to it lol.
@benginaldclocker2891
@benginaldclocker2891 3 ай бұрын
Mystic Knight was poorly designed and implemented wdym? It's literally just Fighter with magic stuff. It didn't change anything with the class other than it being a parry-heavy fighter.
@voltaicburst4279
@voltaicburst4279 3 ай бұрын
@@benginaldclocker2891 what were all the other vocations bro? Assassin was a mix of fighter and strider, sorcerer is just better mage, magick archer is just strider but magick like are you for real? All they had to do was give him his own unique moveset, more unique skills, and boom he would be different enough and still amazing like he was in dd1. It would’ve been so simple but nah just trash him.
@Vagabond_Gaming
@Vagabond_Gaming 3 ай бұрын
About the 10 vocation, it is really confusing. Did he mean that there are only 10 vocations in the final game or is he willing to share that 10 vocations can be publicly shared at this point?
@HollowBagel
@HollowBagel 3 ай бұрын
It's a badly translated interview, from Japanese, to Korean, to English. I would not trust their translation of it.
@Akutikun
@Akutikun 3 ай бұрын
Supposedly 10 is the final and they have no plans of adding more at this time is what the translation was supposed to be according to a couple sources.
@Xarxes_
@Xarxes_ 3 ай бұрын
​@@HollowBagelthank you for feeding into my cope
@zeroao6005
@zeroao6005 3 ай бұрын
They just don't know how to ask a proper question....like "Do we have more basic vocations?" or "what are the colors of trickster?" something like that... or It's just they don't allow they write down in the article
@AngriestPeanut
@AngriestPeanut 3 ай бұрын
If we don’t get more than 10 vocations at release, then I’m at least hoping more vocations are added down the line with DLC. I can imagine with the state of modern gaming, Capcom would be pushing Itsuno and his team to do as mentioned, and add vocations as paid DLC along with perhaps new areas, or equipment and Rift Crystals. The only part of this that truly is a bummer is how armor will work, as it’s going to be hard to make a unique pawn when there’s a thousand clones with the same armor sets.
@raphathekid
@raphathekid 3 ай бұрын
I'm also looking forward for more vocations via DLC, 'cause Dragon's Dogma have lots of potential to explore deeply many playstyles, such as Monk, for example ;x
@youknowwhyimhere2307
@youknowwhyimhere2307 3 ай бұрын
Damn how many vocations yall need? 30. I can’t name another game that even has 10 classes
@sorantohell5096
@sorantohell5096 3 ай бұрын
​@youknowwhyimhere2307 online had a bunch of unique classes that the majority of the community could never play because of the region lock. It would have been smart to announce/addd a few more.
@battousaithekingslayer9913
@battousaithekingslayer9913 3 ай бұрын
@@youknowwhyimhere2307thats what im saying lol.
@Haitch_Kay
@Haitch_Kay 3 ай бұрын
Everyone seems to be ignoring that part of the stated goal of the armor change is that they could have way more armor than in the first game. And we've already seen pictures of specific armors showing up with different undershirts and gloves.
@NotCharAznable
@NotCharAznable 3 ай бұрын
I like how any sort of criticism is considered doomposting. Being a fanboy seems like a fragile life. LOL
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp 3 ай бұрын
Corporations literally hire people to be suckups online. It's not real folks, thankfully
@brucexu3471
@brucexu3471 3 ай бұрын
just add a 1080p 60fps mode plz. I don't care about graphic, but I am really senstive to the frame rate, especically when playing a action game
@arnauddelaclos3221
@arnauddelaclos3221 3 ай бұрын
its dumb , assasin and archer have no upper vocation ??? what about the pink and purple illusionist vocation
@fghjgfjgfhjgfh
@fghjgfjgfhjgfh 3 ай бұрын
Less armor options and less slots for weapon skills. Two major L’s for the sequel unfortunately. Casters got screwed over big time.
@botmushin8878
@botmushin8878 3 ай бұрын
If they're going to cheap out on the game, I'll cheap out on the purchase.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Perfect way to put it.
@andrewgrime8389
@andrewgrime8389 3 ай бұрын
Itsuno is serving you his own shit on a platter and you people are like, "Well, and? I'm hungry and hungry people don't complain." 😂😂😂
@ninakochan7
@ninakochan7 3 ай бұрын
I just hope more then One DLC will come out for the game, that can make up for the mistakes they made. Give us more Outfits and the ability to dye them. Give us more port crystals for better fast travel for New Game Plus...more customize options for you and your Pawn...and lastly, more Vocations. SIDE NOTE: The simple fact that i couldn't rolepay as an Elf in a Fantasy Game baffled me...😒
@nytrul3159
@nytrul3159 3 ай бұрын
It's been over 10 years, I'm still optimistic so even with these changes and the lower amount of vocations, if they put the work that would've gone into those features towards a better gameplay experience I'll be happy. The only thing that actually hurt me in my soul was the armor slot reduction tho LOL. Hopefully this translates to better looking pieces and the extra variations will be enough for fashion dogma
@nytrul3159
@nytrul3159 3 ай бұрын
@MaximilianReyCartwright I honestly didnt think of it in that way, thats an interesting factor to think about. I know DD2 has a similar if not cooy and pasted weight system from the first game, so I wonder if thatll be affected by the slot reduction. But yeah, it was a very rewarding experience finding a bunch of cool different varying armor pieces on ur journey and managing them all.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Don't hold your breath. They won't let you do what you want they will make you wear a baggy potato sack as you attempt to toothpick enemies to death.
@nytrul3159
@nytrul3159 3 ай бұрын
@@blackdysfunction8260 hell yeah
@tobiasjonsson6415
@tobiasjonsson6415 3 ай бұрын
Yeah…..before this …..outpour of news …..it was a day one for me but now im gonna wait a few days to a week….sad but ah well my back log is allready long as hell
@ButterscotchPenguin
@ButterscotchPenguin 3 ай бұрын
This happens with like every game mate, just wait for the demo lol
@umpalumparcool
@umpalumparcool 3 ай бұрын
​@ButterscotchPenguin I keep hearing about a demo. Are we sure that will drop?
@ICDedPeplArisen
@ICDedPeplArisen 3 ай бұрын
@@umpalumparcool It's heavily implied to drop 7-8th or at the very least be announced tomorrow but not entirely confirmed.
@BeingYouMan
@BeingYouMan 3 ай бұрын
Go outside
@ButterscotchPenguin
@ButterscotchPenguin 3 ай бұрын
@@umpalumparcool Or just wait for the game to come out, either way not a long wait
@SaltyBananas30
@SaltyBananas30 3 ай бұрын
At least it makes it an easy choice between DD2 nd ROTR. Not playing a 20 fps game in 2024.
@damngamgee3739
@damngamgee3739 3 ай бұрын
Name checks out
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. Ronin was going to be waiting until after this but after all these shenanigans I'm good I'll be sticking with Rise of the Ronin. I trust the developers after nioh and wo long plus I don't have to hear team ninja devs bashing fans and the choices they makes while forcefully removing every aspect of the game fans liked like these dd2 devs did.
@Antonyt13
@Antonyt13 3 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with criticizing a game, even harshly, if it has obvious flaws. Feedback is how games get better. You really want to buy DD3 on your PS6 in 2030 and still be uncapped 30 fps with dips to 24?
@PhilUP
@PhilUP 3 ай бұрын
Still excited to play DD2 but these reviews do make a little concerning. But gonna wait to see how the demo and launch day turns out before I criticize it myself. Right now it’s looking like the case of play it later when updates or DLC come out.
@ManamuneAnada
@ManamuneAnada 3 ай бұрын
What looks concerning?
@gojirajenkins8528
@gojirajenkins8528 3 ай бұрын
The game looks awesome to Me I pre-orderd it @@ManamuneAnada
@PhilUP
@PhilUP 3 ай бұрын
@@ManamuneAnada Performance, prefer a higher frame rate but seems like DD2 isn’t going to have performance options which is a shame. Still gonna play it though, looks fun and waited 10 years for the sequel.
@MaiyagyGery
@MaiyagyGery 3 ай бұрын
@@PhilUP every RE Engine game since 2017 (RE 7, RE 2, RE 3, RE Village, RE 4, DMC 5, MHR, SF6) so far always targetted a 60FPS even on old systems like PS4 so no need to worry about FPS, i trust CAPCOM on this one.
@amspook
@amspook 3 ай бұрын
​@@MaiyagyGery Those games are not in the same scale as DD2 tho Re4 is the closest in terms of area, but it's still small compared to DD2
@unmotivated_might
@unmotivated_might 3 ай бұрын
I’m not getting this on day 1. I’ll probably wait for a few patches
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
I'll be passing. I can't support censorship or blackwashing anymore on any level. Bring back the lingerie or give people the freedom of layers, get your game at 60 fps, put back the vocations that were removed, and start doing what fans want not what your e.s.g investors ask for.
@L4Disillusion
@L4Disillusion 3 ай бұрын
😂stop doomposting. So in other words ignore the facts and preorder anyways. Nah son, ive learned my lesson. Tuey wont get my money unless they prove the game is worth it. This industry has turned into a clown show. This aint doomposting this is accepting reality. Tired of triple A devs robbing us. 70 dollars isnt cheap for a game. They better impress me or im not buying it period.
@kevo300
@kevo300 3 ай бұрын
Yeah stop doomposting before the game comes out. Complain after we get all the facts and dont preorder.
@L4Disillusion
@L4Disillusion 3 ай бұрын
​@@kevo300😂😂😂 ill doompost if I want to.
@xXMaukiorXx
@xXMaukiorXx 3 ай бұрын
Hearing the game's director say they're AIMING at 30 fps is just absurd, we shouldn't expect anything less than 60 fps at 1080p nowadays... it's freaking 2024 for fucks sake. I'm definitely not pre-ordering this.
@florin-alexandrustanciu5643
@florin-alexandrustanciu5643 3 ай бұрын
The arrmor thing is a downgrade yes but the vocations thing really is dissapointing.. hope the higherups didn t do this
@haiderkhan6486
@haiderkhan6486 3 ай бұрын
I'd rather have 10 unique vocations that all play differently and offer massive amounts of replayability and experimentation done right, than 20 that all play the same with slight variations. Everyone is acting like 10 vocations aren't a lot, considering how unique every class is, I'd say it's more than enough.
@adamp6320
@adamp6320 3 ай бұрын
@@haiderkhan6486 The warfarer is not unqiue, it literally has nothing unique about it as all skills will be from existing vocations. It is just a vocation swap button. In theory, the unique aspect is to combine skills on the fly but given the limitations in skills available that is a big TBD. Still, I'd argue its 9 vocations + warfarer which is the abiilty to change vocations. Very similar to first game. But we lose completely from the first game in lack of gameplay variety with 1 Weapon per vocation instead of between 1 and 4 with the associated skills.
@Frvnklin
@Frvnklin 3 ай бұрын
Really hoping for a Demo
@SUPERMegaGaGaTV2
@SUPERMegaGaGaTV2 3 ай бұрын
Already confirmed there is no demo and the game was delayed till 8th. November
@votpavel
@votpavel 3 ай бұрын
tomorow demo
@Mr.Loveless117
@Mr.Loveless117 3 ай бұрын
@@SUPERMegaGaGaTV2 source?
@paulinak1848
@paulinak1848 3 ай бұрын
@@Mr.Loveless117 He made it up
@BlackDahlia_Smile
@BlackDahlia_Smile 3 ай бұрын
​@@SUPERMegaGaGaTV2cap that's not what my pre-order says lol
@Hambs23
@Hambs23 3 ай бұрын
The vocations "merge" was something I suspected, but it's nice to have a confirmation. In the first game, some vocations could use the same weapons, but had unique skills for them. Not that each vocation can only equip their unique weapon, having those other skills or an adaptation of them is a really cool thing that adds even more variety to skill building. Also means that Pawns can probably use some previously Player-only skills like Mystic Knight's elemental counters.
@zeroao6005
@zeroao6005 3 ай бұрын
What's the orignal japanese words before traslating about Itsuno-san said that it's only 10 vocations? And what should I understand the words "the base game"? It sounds to me like you finish the main story line(maybe) and you could use the 10 vocations they made public. It means that the other vocations could have different um....side quests to unlock...? I still can't believe that there are only 10 vocations. They won't make a game but only one vocation is new design(trickster).
@johnathanera5863
@johnathanera5863 3 ай бұрын
Hmm. Really dislike the armor system change.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
Every fan dislikes it. Go woke go broke they made their choices now they have to live with them. They made a deal with the devil to accept funding for this game under the condition they change everything that made this game popular. We can bs all day long but people played this mostly for the half naked layering options (even females did this watch any female that posted this game they all wore the lingerie as well) and those who weren't wearing lingerie had equally revealing outfits. No one wanted censorship but their investors and instead of explaining that this will kill the game they caved and accepted the bribe money hoping they could lie to fans, get a few preorders, and maybe get a few new fans who aren't aware of their betrayal towards fans. Instead they just killed their studio, brought Capcom more ill will than they already had, and made it to where people will actively avoid anything produced by this development team.
@neonthehedgehog12
@neonthehedgehog12 3 ай бұрын
I just want mystic knight 😢
@DuranAaron
@DuranAaron 3 ай бұрын
Rip. Sorry bro.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
I just want my silk lingerie.
@welton9748
@welton9748 3 ай бұрын
No point in changing armor, after all, there are only 2 types of players: 1. Goes for the ultimate armor 2. "I just think they're neat"
@babayaga4320
@babayaga4320 3 ай бұрын
I don't think we're getting another vocation at any point. They've gone out of their way to say it's 10, and only 10 and no plans to add more. This follows the pattern of the first game, there were nine vocations at launch, and people kept saying they would add more, they didn't.
@RexamCoding
@RexamCoding 3 ай бұрын
“Around and above” doesn’t mean it won’t go below 30. Uncapped framerate is terrible on console.
@RickRate
@RickRate 3 ай бұрын
i waited 10 years for Dragons Dogma 2 i dont even care i just wanna play this game for long as possible
@bigjohnreview9431
@bigjohnreview9431 3 ай бұрын
Me too, I'm excited for this game, and I hear that this is not the final product so they can fix the frame 30fps but anyway that doesn't bother me
@Daniel-ug7hs
@Daniel-ug7hs 3 ай бұрын
Same😎💯
@StarWarsMatcha
@StarWarsMatcha 3 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly I totally believe & trust whatever these awesome developers have done to make this game awesome, I think people are just tripping because if anyone knows what it was like playing the first game it was around 30fps I believe BUT in combat it would slow down on purpose when we used certain moves or when big monsters did certain things but it made the game and combat feel more awesome and intense, it was made like that on purpose, so with that in mind I feel this is going to be very similar to the first game but with way better graphical detail and animations in a much bigger and more alive open world with way more monsters and effects on screen. It’s going to be AMAZING AF. 🙌❤️‍🔥🙌
@bigjohnreview9431
@bigjohnreview9431 3 ай бұрын
@@StarWarsMatcha Damn right and I agree 💯
@StarWarsMatcha
@StarWarsMatcha 3 ай бұрын
@@bigjohnreview9431 See.. you know what’s up !!🤘❤️‍🔥🤘
@ryvyr
@ryvyr 3 ай бұрын
The wording of "base game" gives hope for further Vocations in DLC/expansion, if naught else than to satisfy the need to have colours align rather than Trickster's pink/purple be a unique hybrid (at which point why not just Unique like Wayfarer), though what the current 10 is quite fine for now :>
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp 3 ай бұрын
"Hopefully the game gets better in the future" is not reason enough to buy it
@ryvyr
@ryvyr 3 ай бұрын
@@BurgermanForever-nh2vp Given what is known thus far, what would make the difference?
@MajorKirrahe
@MajorKirrahe 3 ай бұрын
What's the background music? Thanks!
@TheSymbiot3Venom
@TheSymbiot3Venom 3 ай бұрын
Sorry but 30 FPS is a dealbreaker imo
@GodEater015
@GodEater015 3 ай бұрын
Proceeds to play a trash game with high frame rates. “mONEy wELl sPeNt”.😂
@SaintJ92
@SaintJ92 3 ай бұрын
@@GodEater015for the love of god please raise your standards. Are you going to be ok with 30 fps another 10 years from now? You’re eventually going to smarten up. Just do it now
@GodEater015
@GodEater015 3 ай бұрын
@@SaintJ92 bro I rather spend my money on a good game with questionable fr than a bad one with the best fr this world has ever seen. Frame rates shouldn’t be a dealbreaker but to each their own.🤷🏽‍♂️
@burnttoast26
@burnttoast26 3 ай бұрын
@@GodEater015Sounds like you're saying that games with high framerates are automatically bad
@yusogasora8194
@yusogasora8194 3 ай бұрын
pc gang we up
@mastazenkei
@mastazenkei 3 ай бұрын
10 vocations bother me the most , 8 are returning and 2 are new , wasn't this game supposed to be dd1 fully realized, where's Monk? Spear vocation? Ninja samurai etc., where advanced green and yellow ? Where green hybrids? I hope Itsuno is joking because i expected more , not 30 vocations , but at least 15-16 with adv green/yellow and hybrids + base pink and purple.
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp 3 ай бұрын
All our favorites will be dlc
@math2222322
@math2222322 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, i hate how people say « it’s the best game ever » and it’s not even out yet. For the price, it better be good.
@FFeeLiT
@FFeeLiT 3 ай бұрын
Katana vocation would be just incredible. They would probably make it extremely epic and cool... till then we samurais have to play play with thieves and archers. Does anyone suggest me a big or small character for those classes?
@sevnsinnz6468
@sevnsinnz6468 3 ай бұрын
It really sounds like they ruined the armor system for no reason! So many bad changes imo with so little improvements from the first it seems. Bummer for real.
@arrowisknee9829
@arrowisknee9829 3 ай бұрын
since this is his passion project i have 99.9% faith that all the worries people have are gonna drift away on release
@drakuro6618
@drakuro6618 3 ай бұрын
pretty sure they'll add more vocation in the DLC, but the armor tho... how else would people chose another pawn aside from their fashion sense?
@KiazaKadaj
@KiazaKadaj 3 ай бұрын
i have a feeling the game is gonna be pretty jank tbh, “older build” is always said but end of the day its what’s gonna be shipped besides some bug fixes, minor tweaks and the day 1 patch. dropping below 20 fps on 1080p is p wild. Seems a few testers were a bit frustrated that it still feels like it’s stuck in 2012 while others really appreciated that it was the DD they remembered. a few mentions of the game getting pretty wacky especially because of how much is going on. I’m actually a bit surprised by the initial reviews and a bit disappointed, still looking forward to playing it. I can tell it’s going to be a very polarizing game for many.
@schlagen2986
@schlagen2986 3 ай бұрын
No mystic knight, "simplified" armor system, ngl its disappointing, armor system was awesome in DD, this new system look kinda bad, and the excuse for it is utter bullshit
@athan336
@athan336 3 ай бұрын
people destroyed redfall for 30fps but people give it a pass for dd2, people are hypocrites
@Mohgenstein
@Mohgenstein 3 ай бұрын
Because not only is Redfall 30 FPS but it’s also a trash game that made everyone lose their faith in a studio. They recently patched 60 FPS but they can’t patch in a good game 😂
@athan336
@athan336 3 ай бұрын
@@Mohgenstein i know its a trash game but alot of it was 30fps
@Mohgenstein
@Mohgenstein 3 ай бұрын
@@athan336 Nah it was the bugs, the lazy world design, the janky terrible combat, the awful bosses, the boring characters and more
@athan336
@athan336 3 ай бұрын
@@Mohgenstein are people really gonna ignore the game got nuked for 30fps aswell
@gv2212
@gv2212 3 ай бұрын
Yeah most of it ,especially before release was the 30 fps. Dont try to argue with these brain rot fanboys​@@athan336
@goldenboii23
@goldenboii23 3 ай бұрын
I truly believe alot of Itsuno's quotes are mistranslations. It happens alot. in other interviews it says "This is all we've announced" implying there's more. Idk honestly. Id rather reserve my judgment for when the full game releases and see what's ACTUALLY in the game. If it truly is just 10 vocations that does make me a little sad but I'm hoping that's not the case. I'm sure the game will be enjoyable regardless.
@adjustingmythreshold233
@adjustingmythreshold233 3 ай бұрын
I don’t get why they dumbed everything down, removed vocations, and limited our customization. Transmog would have fixed that.
@Akutikun
@Akutikun 3 ай бұрын
Stop blindly supporting games and assuming everything will be great after piles of examples that have proved otherwise. This is half the game it should've been after all this time. Never trust anything when everyone getting incentives says it's perfect. Remember Starfield.
@Sted916boy
@Sted916boy 3 ай бұрын
Its wild how ppl complain im just going to figure it out when the game drops
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp
@BurgermanForever-nh2vp 3 ай бұрын
It's bizarre that there are people put there who enjoy getting scammed and look down on others for protecting themselves lol
@TherealBigblue22
@TherealBigblue22 3 ай бұрын
The layer system make more variety than anything else they could think of I guarantee it. THE armor rating and resistance should be simplified so I can rather wear what I want, every character has to look different any way because of class locked armor
@KayneZEHN
@KayneZEHN 3 ай бұрын
I hope the game has content, enemy variation, good main plot, a lot of different dynamics, thats way more important than 10000 classes . I just played ds3 so the standards are high
@Kneel2ThaCrown
@Kneel2ThaCrown 3 ай бұрын
Imagine paying 500 dollars for a PS5 for a 30 FPS experience in 2024. And yet we hear how "SO POWERFUL" the current gen consoles are. This is why I'm glad I recently got into PC gaming.
@papanurgle9015
@papanurgle9015 3 ай бұрын
Not even 30 fps solid...the game dips as low as 24 and that wasn't even in what I'd consider a busy fight
@cherdnad2630
@cherdnad2630 3 ай бұрын
He's making fun of consoles, not the game lol. $500 dollar outdated device. If people want 60 FPS, go with PC. PC master race.
@Gokz93
@Gokz93 3 ай бұрын
@@cherdnad263060 fps on 1080p on these consoles should be the norm. They are capable of that
@AloneAgainstAll8855
@AloneAgainstAll8855 3 ай бұрын
PC = 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
@SaintJ92
@SaintJ92 3 ай бұрын
The console is powerful. It’s the game developers that aren’t utilizing it
@zenkent7244
@zenkent7244 3 ай бұрын
all i need in life is the ability to play the game at 1080p at either 30 or 60 frames on low graphics thats all i need to be happy at highest
@syfyky
@syfyky 3 ай бұрын
Same, I got an rx 580 which is basically just making the minimum requirement 😅
@jannicksteil
@jannicksteil 3 ай бұрын
True
@ArthurTorrias
@ArthurTorrias 3 ай бұрын
2:38 Woah, I must've missed this preview because damn that looks cool. Looks like Mystic Spearhand's gonna be my first class.
@geomGalangco
@geomGalangco 3 ай бұрын
Do I get my trophy armour back though?
@DevinOfBacon
@DevinOfBacon 3 ай бұрын
I saw a video talking about somebody playing the game early on console, and provided gameplay, but they said that it was in 4k resolution, so playing on lower resolutions will likely be 60+
@Velocifero
@Velocifero 3 ай бұрын
There're no performance modes, it's just 25-35 fps.
@ThatsOk83
@ThatsOk83 3 ай бұрын
@@VelociferoWhere is this stated. Not getting it on console but regardless
@DevinOfBacon
@DevinOfBacon 3 ай бұрын
@Velocifero It won't matter unless you play in 4k, because the framerate is uncapped. Anyone playing on a 4k monitor would likely have to go into their display settings to lower the resolution if they want to play in 60fps.
@beowulf12343
@beowulf12343 3 ай бұрын
Idk, only 10 vocations still bother me. I mean trickster being completely different colors from everything else is still really weird to me
@reecedactyl
@reecedactyl 3 ай бұрын
yeh cos you guys copium that there HAD to be pink and purple base.
@Firetailisafk
@Firetailisafk 3 ай бұрын
im sorry can you please elaborate on why having "ONLY" 10 vocations (one more than from DD1which had 9) is bad..? how many vocations did you want. I don't really understand the issues some people are raising maybe you can fill in the missing info for me
@redn0v440
@redn0v440 3 ай бұрын
Why? We had less in the first game (and several of those had insane overlap with one another). We have 10 very distinct and unique vocations for this game, which is more than a lot of similar games.
@reecedactyl
@reecedactyl 3 ай бұрын
@@Firetailisafk they are crying cos there's no pink/purple and no advanced archer/yellow. They probably baking ranger into the archer
@stonaraptor8196
@stonaraptor8196 3 ай бұрын
only 10? What am I missing ? The first game had less I believe. 10 is more than I expected to be honest.
@chadbaum5838
@chadbaum5838 3 ай бұрын
There will likely be updates and patches as we're playing, I'm still so hyped.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
You're one of ten people still "hyped" and 8 of those ten are paid Capcom employees.
@chadbaum5838
@chadbaum5838 3 ай бұрын
@@blackdysfunction8260 lol wtf are talking about, I'm just glad we're getting dragons dogma 2 after years of wating, sure people aren't happy with some of the games features but nobody gets what they want 100%.
@Lockz1111
@Lockz1111 3 ай бұрын
Warfarer is a special class, Trickster is a Hybrid, either this translation is wrong or they were smoking something when they categorized Trickster. It could even be something as stupid as the other kingdom doesn't call them vocations at this point so he's not technically lying? I dunno this all seems super confusing to how the original game did things
@majormoron605
@majormoron605 3 ай бұрын
At this point I´m convinced that the people who think there´ll be 16 or more vocations have just huffed too much copium... Just because something´s been teased or appeared in concept art doesn´t mean it´s guaranteed to be in the game. Stuff gets cut all the time, especially with ambitious projects like this.
@reecedactyl
@reecedactyl 3 ай бұрын
yeh lol oh tricksters pink purple THAT MEANS THERES PINK AND PURPLE BASE, why lie to us devs oh no such a bad game!
@stonaraptor8196
@stonaraptor8196 3 ай бұрын
na bruh, see the trickster bamboozled you with the colors.@@reecedactyl
@glasspaper3
@glasspaper3 3 ай бұрын
Expecting an advanced version of each starter vocation doesn't seem to that insane to me
@raven75257
@raven75257 3 ай бұрын
No, the reason people were expecting more because it's incredibly dumb to have only 10 vocations. So they brought back colour system, split strider into two, but then decided "nah, fuck that"? That sounds incredibly dumb. We're getting less options all around
@reecedactyl
@reecedactyl 3 ай бұрын
@@raven75257 don't play the game then like all the other sheep who won't play since there's "only" 10
@debugden9172
@debugden9172 3 ай бұрын
I think there's a difference between doom posting and people being rightfully upset that there are some major regressions from the first game and having revealed every class in the game, leaving no mystery or surprise in discovering a new class(es), on top of having a pretty established color system for vocations that now seems arbitrary and pointless. Monster Hunter World and Rise did this as well in their marketing campaigns in that they revealed 90-95% of their monster rosters before the game came out, leaving a very sour taste in not discovering any omit maybe the final boss monster in the entire base game. I hate this decision they seem to be continuing with and I'd say it's even worse here in DD2 as they should have at least left the Warfarer unknown as that would have been crazy to come across in game. His comment on the armor system is also completely nonsensical, they could have kept the same system but literally changed stats of equipment and added more to have people change up looks, by simplifying it the way they have literally MORE people will be wearing the same stuff not only for stats but because it's going to be harder to match upper and lower parts visually, that answer makes actually 0 sense. I am still extremely hyped for the game of course but these are some very annoying L's.
@eelirantamaki7251
@eelirantamaki7251 3 ай бұрын
Where did they state they are going to fix the dips on console? I didnt find anything on that.
@blackdysfunction8260
@blackdysfunction8260 3 ай бұрын
They specifically stated their only aim was to get it to (meaning they haven't yet) just uncapped 30 fps. For frame of reference go download bloodborne on your console if you own it and boot it up....that's what your game will look like but even worse because it's not locked at 30 it will dip down to 15-20 frequently. In case you don't know this is unplayable for most people in 2024. Most say they can deal with it until they start playing it and it really bothers them then.
@grcigar9911
@grcigar9911 3 ай бұрын
Having played games like Elden Ring, BG3, DD:DA and others the last few years, and considering DD:DA was still just a fun game to play even up against these newer titles, I fully expect DD2 to be just fine.
@tonyMosh
@tonyMosh 3 ай бұрын
No assassin?
@theobell2002
@theobell2002 3 ай бұрын
Thief is Assassin + Strider.
@leoscar9816
@leoscar9816 3 ай бұрын
Man... I don't know. Framerate is a serious concern. We're not in 2011 anymore, not when on PC we're enjoying games at 144 FPS and more. 30 FPS simply isn't acceptable, maybe console players are okay with that for some reason, I know I wouldn't be. For the fashion I... truly don't care. What bothers me is that the guy lies when he says people all wore the same things, and taking 10 minutes to open DD1 to check the rift and see the pawns would have confirmed that. In DD1, ennemies are simply not dangerous enough that you need to minmax armor, or so dangerous that they'll one shot you anyway. Fashion was always the way to go. For the 10 vocations, it's a pity there aren't more, but it's hard to tell how much that'll impact the game without seeing the full set of abilities class have. Oddly enough the most disappointing one so far seems to be Trickster. It looks so gimmicky. Creating walls and fake platforms ? In practice when will this be actually useful ? Are you going to spend a ability slot on an ability that'll work once in a playthrough ?
@havocsurge7667
@havocsurge7667 3 ай бұрын
I haven't seen a single piece of info that mentions at what resolution we get that FPS. I don't think there is a single game on PS5 without a 4K resolution option. And if there is 4K there is always an option with a lower resolution. This is a really weird situation, and reviews are as far as the game's release. So no concrete info for 2 more weeks.
@StarWarsMatcha
@StarWarsMatcha 3 ай бұрын
My gut feeling says there will be 12 vocations total. But who knows.. let’s just be optimistic & stay positive. I’m thankful and happy that this game has been made period, no matter what it’s still going to be a huge upgrade compared to the original and that’s what a sequel is supposed to be so I’m already excited and I preordered my deluxe edition. Lock & Load
@jeebeeheebee
@jeebeeheebee 3 ай бұрын
the change to fashion is a deal breaker for me, if i see that you can't change your gauntlets, I'm not gonna get the game.
@Haitch_Kay
@Haitch_Kay 3 ай бұрын
The absolute fucking cry-babiest thing in the world.
@jeebeeheebee
@jeebeeheebee 3 ай бұрын
the bling was a highlight in the first game, I'm not about to downgrade for $70. it's part of the roleplaying experience. top half and bottom half customization is what I'd expect from a fuckin mobile game.
@jeebeeheebee
@jeebeeheebee 3 ай бұрын
​@@Haitch_KayI'm holding out hope that it's not as bad as i think, but it's changed my mind about pre-ordering. I'll wait to see.
@Haitch_Kay
@Haitch_Kay 3 ай бұрын
@@jeebeeheebee again: absolute crybaby shit. Ignoring all of the gameplay improvements, the fleshed out world, exploration, stellar looking combat, way better pawns and way more in depth vocations to focus on a slight downgrade in granularity with armor and making your purchase decisions off of that. You literally cannot get more Modern Gamer than that. Ignoring the fact that most other RPGs also have 4 equipment slots (or less, many of them have armor as one single piece) because it's significantly easy to balance that way, we've literally seen pictures and footage of armor tops with multiple undershirt and glove variations. As in Armor A with Undershirt A And Gloves A, or Armor A with Undershirt B and Gloves D, etc etc. So the variety is still there, just done differently.
@jeebeeheebee
@jeebeeheebee 3 ай бұрын
​@@Haitch_Kaylook bud, I'm not that concerned about it. you're the one writing an article to prove your point. I'm just voicing my disappointment. if you're gonna get it, do that. i don't understand why you're so worried about where i wanna put my money.
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