so true, Dragonborn could also visit all provinces and let them know there will be no wars, and thats just the way it is...

Dragon born should have taken power from both sides and keep Skyrim to himself... I mean noone got balls enough to go to the afterlife to fight alduin... Case closed

Someone needs to make a mod of that lmao Call it the *"fuck both your factions faction"*

@@marsfreelander5969 It's called conquest of skyrim and it is awesome :D make your own faction and flip a finger on everybody as you take control over the entire map and becomes high king/queen. there is even economics to handle.

@@marsfreelander5969 I'm pretty sure there is a mod allowing the Dragonborn to become The High King of Skyrim either by killing the previous one or by gaining support of majority of the jarls.

Such luck, to find a man of culture in the comment section! I salute you, kind sir!

@@maiqtheliar5891 men of culture got to stick together If not, then what are we.😁

OI I'LL TAKE YA HEAD FOR THAT

Just help the kids become dragons near the imperial camps

I said the same thing when she mentioned it LOL😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

Isnt that how negotiations actually start in history

And they mostly end in blood. If you aren't willing to negotiate, you're not likely to keep your life.

I agree, but recently I've decided to align with the Empire. There is game evidence that the Thalmor work to actively create a rebellion in Skyrim to weaken the Empire. And if you pay attention, the Enpire doesn't send many troops to Skyrim to fight this rebellion as they are keeping their troops on the borders with the Thalmor to defend vs a attack, and to potentially invade them when rdy. It's also mentioned in the story that the Empire is just biding it's time till they grow strong enough to attack the Thalmor. Basically if the storm cloaks win, the Empire is weakened enough for the Thalmor to win, which is why the Thalmor support the tensions and war in Skyrim. If you want the Thalmor truly beaten, support the Empire, they are playing the long game

I never said I sided with Ulfric. I kill him myself. He is no true son of Skyrim. The empire maintains a hold in Skyrim. I also take the jagged crown and claim the throne becoming high king. I lock elenwyn up in her embassy and make the Aldmeri Dominion blind to the goings on in Skyrim and the empire masses strength in the north. Then I retake bruma with the blades which I reformed And begin the offensive campaign. The Aldmeri Dominion knew they couldn't take Skyrim themselves which is why they incited the civil war and in my game they never will. I kill everyone of them that can escape Skyrim or lock them up so I can keep it quiet. Blind the enemy to our true strength. Ulfric was greedy and just wanted the throne for his own gains. I make no such concessions. I took it to strength Skyrim and the empire because an empire is only as strong as the one leading it. I mod the hell out of my game so I can get this kind of thing to happen and I make myself a hybrid werebear/vampire lord so I am beyond physically and magical powerful along with enchanting my ass off so I'm next to unkillable with my armor and weapons. I never have to transform. Imagine if Sauron and Darth Vader were mixed together but they weren't evil. I know my character has become a monster masquerading as human and I plan on killing him off ass soon as I'm done retaking Cyrodil Blackmarsh Morrowind and the orcs are on our side too. which put the Aldmeri Dominion in real trouble because then they have to deal with nords dark elves imperials and argonians which are cracked in their own right all of them. Us banding together means they lose and I lead from the front in the fight with my people not from behind barking orders. I even have dissenting high elves among our ranks. High Rock is next on the list to free. It's not an isolationist move. It's a counter offensive. If they side with the ideals of subjugation of those they deem lesser than them then they are the true enemy regardless of race. That's why I hit bruma first. We retake Cyrodil then Morrowind and Blackmarsh systematically. remove them from Cyrodil and you have much of the empires strength back when you combine Skyrim and Cyrodil with the strength of the orcs because the orcs live right in the mountains bordering skyrim. Orcs and nords together are bad enough. Then getting more imperial back in the fold and on board with retaking the Capital is even more of a oh shit. Like I said I don't side with Ulfric. I just use my knowledge of tactics to work in my benefit. If the Thalmor are blind to what is going on it gives me an advantage and as high king of Skyrim and dragonborn I have more pull than I really need to make friends with neighboring provinces. I tell them we are retaking the empire and I guarantee you most of the other provinces are gonna be behind me because the high elves of the Aldmeri Dominion only treat their own kind well. If you aren't a high elf ur trash is their philosophy. Time to show them Tamriel is done with their shit.

The thalmor are a bunch of liars, tjey lied abou the oblivion crisis, they probably lied about the return of the 2 moons, and probably they lied about being the superior race but whatever plans they had, they will backfire and probably the high elves will be almost extinct if history of elders scrolls had a lesson to learn is like elves races dont last forever

@@josevillanueva2944 Dwemmer and Falmer/Snow elves are an example of that

@@thizzmonkey7846holy jeez come back to reality its like your completely lost in the world of skyrim talking like you live in that world with all the skyrim politics damn

Mortal is right next to the province where Solitude is…

​@jacquesdixon2480 but other than close proximity to Solitude, Morthal provides nothing. Meanwhile Riften provides the Empire with full control over the south of Skyrim, and great trade routes with Cyrodil

@@jacquesdixon2480 it's also got a terrible economy and a pretty lousy terrain that would be difficult to bring the Stormcloak army through

I was thinking the same thing. If anything idk why anyone is even making demands here. Like hey idiots, stop fighting for a few minutes and help kill the WORLD EATER DRAGON so you don’t fuel his power by killing each other

​@@jacquesdixon2480there is a waterway between Morthal and Solitude, so you can't easily assault Solitude from Morthal. Once a beige does begin in the end, ya Morthal could provide trade and support, but not s great spot to attack from

You sure? I always forget how long this segment is

@@breezedancer7485I think he’s being sarcastic lmao

@@VU70I88I don’t think so, if you side only with the stormcloaks or only for the imperials for the first couple of questions the other side will get fed up and stop the negotiations at trading riften/markarth or whatever you choose

no body does, there are videos of people that defend every single elf race of all IP's that still place the thalmor under the bus, not in the back under

Same here like I am an imperial sider and it’s always on sight when I see thalmor on the road

​@@sam.w8477Fuck the Thalmor, if it wasn't for Ulfric, the empire would be in a stronger position. Now, I like Ulfric on some level. But he went about everything the wrong way. Killing his political rival the way he did is one key thing I am very against.

you imperial bastard

Luv me Talos, luv me Skyrim, luv me black briar mead, h8 thalmor and the empire. Not raciss, jus don' like 'em. Simple as.

Not really, now the Forsworn are Ulfric's problem....poisoned the chalice. 😂😅😂😅😂

I wouldn't say feeing The Empire from having to deal both with Stormcloaks and Forsworn and turning Fornsworn against Stormcloaks instead is bad for The Empire. Also Ulfric is not working for Thalmor. He just lets Thalmor manipulate him by playing on his hate for the Empire. But Ulfric hates Thalmor too. Truth is it's fruitless to try to eradicate Stormcloaks. It's a fool's errand. Kill Ulfric - that realistically won't solve a damn thing and the Empire will not be any stronger. Because that's precisely the mistake USA have made both in Iraq and Afghanistan. You must not openly fight the Stormcloaks. Keep them in control instead without really trying to slaughter them. And focus on swaying the people of Skyrim. Because the Stormcloaks only exist as long as people of Skyrim allow them to. And the Talibs only exist as long as people of Afghanistan don't believe they have any other options realistically. That's the real enemy you have to fight and it's not the kind of fight you win by bombing and killing people. Terrorists cannot be wiped out by a military assault. This kind of fight just doesn't work this way. As long as there are people in Skyrim believing Stormcloaks can do better than the Empire - Stormcloaks will continue to be a problem and they will resurface when you least expect them to.

@@ripLunarBirdCLH I'm well aware of the Forsworn and the fact that Ulfric hates the Thalmor, but that does not change the fact that he is keeping the Thalmor in power, and if he wins, chances are they'll STAY in power for even longer. Besides, the Empire is best for Skyrim and Tamriel as a whole. To weaken the Empire is to weaken Skyrim.

Yeah but they have rich silver mines, economic power

@@-kdot-2332 As someone else mentioned, the routes leading from the reach are surrounded by Imperial encampments.... meaning any convoy to or from said mines would be prime targets for an Imperial forces in the area...

Markarth is right next to solitude and is highly defendable. And the stormcloaks could stage raids and attacks from markarth and regroup and supply there.

But you see, Markarth is of personal value to Ulfric. As this is the site of his first major victory. (Driving out the Forsworn) This moment was the one that made me realize that Ulfric is unfit to be High King of Skyrim, back when I played the game for the first time. What he Shows here, is that his own ego and personal glory matters more to him then his people. Who should be any good rulers first priority. He may talk big about wanting to free the people of Skyrim, but ultimately, the only person Ulfric Stormcloak cares about is Ulfric Stormcloak. (I did force myself to play through the civil war quest as a stormcloak on a different playthrough later, and that only drove the final nail into the coffin. While I may morally agree with the rebel cause on principle, the pragmat in me cannot allow this fanatic maniac and his lipspittles to rule.)

What Sebastian?

@@bartudundar3193 black butler

@@shinonyx69 oh. The Sebastian I was thinking of is also a butler but not african american. He is more of a dragon descent.

@@bartudundar3193 huh? I was talking about the demon butler from the anime

@@shinonyx69 And I was talking about the dragon butler from the anime.

here, here

I'd say their ultimate objective is but like every side there are bad apples and definitely mishandling going on to a point but nothing like what the Thalmor are doing through the empire

@@lincolngravemann682 Except their bad apples are not theirs, they're just supporters. Pretty much all Stormcloaks in game are objectively good or neutral people. The Empire on the other hand, uses torturers routinely that leave their victims to starve to death and don't even bother to clean up their bones. The Empire massacres healers and desecrates their bodies to deny them a proper burial. The Empire knows about the Thalmor plan and still does its bidding. An Imperial Jarl committed the massacres against the Forsworn and an Imperial scholar put the blame on Ulfric later on in a propaganda book. The list goes on and on.

@@dwight3555 some stormcloak soldiers are bad too but yeah alot of their bad apple are just their supporters and some imperials have the misconception that helping the Thalmor will give the empire time to recover but that doesn't work when you are helping the Thalmor kill your own citizens

If you ignore the part where they takeover whiterun then yes hail ulfric

@@user-le8ev6gl9p Balgruuf is an objectively bad Jarl and person who screams in rage at every single person around him, and Whiterun is a position one HAS to take to control Skyrim since it's exactly in the center. Ulfric has no other choice, and Vignar is an objectively much better Jarl and person, he has the respect of the companions, that accounts for a lot.

You need to first do all of the stuff in Whiterun and after you kill the dragon you unlock a shout, then the Greybeards will call for you.

Basically, progress through the main story without completing the civil war quest line.

Ulfric is a Thalmor puppet, anyways....

Ulfric bad beceause he's racist but loves dark elves!? Lmao! You do know that the dark elves were the only ones in Tamriel still practicing slavery until the Red Mountain blew up? C'mon man.. By contrast Ulfric was never obliged to help the dark elf refugees in any way. They can count themselves lucky to be in the grey quarters instead of just refused entry to Windhelm altogether. And please tell, what action did Ulfric himself take to opress the dunmer he so generously allowed refuge?

​@@tendertackle669his nord citizens harassed the dark elves and he did nothing. After his defeat, the elves and argonians had it better in Windhelm.

Ulfric is bitter towards elves that's for sure but he does let any race join the stormcloaks granted the dark elves have it bad in windhelm but he looked out for them more then the citizens there did but that isnt saying much to be honest I think windhelm needs someone else to be Jarl that can focus on just being the Jarl taking care of its citizens while Ulfric is better as a general

cringe ass comment

oh yea, love Lydia

yes, i think so, please tell me if im incorrect

Yes, you can't have done Battle of Whiterun yet. Balgruf doesn't want to let you use Dragonsreach to trap a dragon while the civil war is on, for fear that one side or the other will take advantage of the situation to take the city by force.

Best place are general good stores, they will accept anything. For armor and weapons go to blacksmiths, potions and ingredients can be sold to apothecaries. Every Major town will have at least these 3 venders, if not many more.

Tysm am having fun exploring oh i stumbled on this icon on the map it looked like a mamoth icon so i explored and ran into some giants errm lets just say my bow and arrow had no effect on them lol and i got launched into the heavens with one wack of the club

yes i do, i have many favorite mods Hegen Reborn, Falskaar, Beyond Reach, Wymstooth, etc

@@randyskyrim1115 i love helgen reborn i put it after i escape helgen

@@SushiSS70 awesome, one of the best early mods for Skyrim

@@randyskyrim1115 i like it so much and i like dragonborn gallery

yea its a cool mod, i think they took it down though

This is what happens when you do the main quest line before doing the civil war quest line

You only get this quest if you haven't yet done the Battle of Whiterun by the time you get to the main story quest to trap the dragon. Balgruf doesn't want to let you use the castle because he's worried one side of the civil war or the other will take advantage of the city guard being distracted to take the city by force. If Whiterun is already controlled by one side then that's not a concern.

You don't do any civil war quests until u need to trap a dragon on whiterun

You can do this mission if you don't join empire/stormcloaks untill when you have to capture a dragon at Whiterun.

yes

@@randyskyrim1115 which one is it?

its NO MOD, KZfaq how to get them to meet, BUT IT IS NOT A MOD

@@AGCcachanilla Thats crazy

It's not a mod. You just have to get to the main story quest to trap the dragon without doing the battle of Whiterun civil war quest. As long as Whiterun is still neutral you'll get this quest.

Common sense

Yeah common sense if you want the Thalmor to rule skyrim. Typical, short-sighted Nord ​@@DAethrys