Alternate Picking Vs Economy Picking - DragonForce Herman Li & Jason Richardson All That Remains

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@tylerm8145 3 жыл бұрын

5:03 "Yeah................yeah." "Yeah." "Yeah." This is all very good and insightful shit tho

@clueless9447 3 жыл бұрын

Lol😂😂

@louisanthony266 3 жыл бұрын

Look at those 2 legends just chatting away about legend thing.

@ebmusicman1635 3 жыл бұрын

I bought all of Jasons tabs and would definitely recommend it, a very good learning tool to say the least! Also very true about UG, must spend a good chunk of time correcting tabs to be playable and more ergonomic.

@spoon4peace 3 жыл бұрын

All That Remains opened for DragonForce when I saw them live in '06 following the release of Inhuman Rampage. Can't believe that was 14 years ago, wow.

@fsantos1595 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Herman invite Roberto Barros. The most brutal alternate picking from the last 4.54 billion years. 😈🤘🖤

@asadhollow6477 3 жыл бұрын

Man you are sucking Roberto like a joruto

@da-gamer2017 3 жыл бұрын

Love you guys, so cool

@rodrigofranco3716 3 жыл бұрын

Herman,there's a Brazilian guitarist called Roberto Barros now he is playing with Edu Falaschi, he has a very advanced alternated picking technique and He developed a revolutionary method, if you could invite him it would be amazing !!!

@canaldotioluba6534 3 жыл бұрын

@ArthurSantosgt 3 жыл бұрын

chekmate herman!!! do a video with Roberto Barros

@andremariano4426 3 жыл бұрын

@1000BrokenKeys 3 жыл бұрын

playing more than 8 different pitches per second is the human ear threshold to distinguish them from each other, otherwise only direction of travel and top and bottom notes in a phrase can be perceived. Hence, double up on repetition by alternate picking, or downpick with palmmute for that uncompromising pick attack. To promote effortless execution, use grouped/chunking twitching movements from the wrist. Use the arm and shoulder primarily to stabilise the picking hand.

@jaysonfoy4486 3 жыл бұрын

Love the videos

@AWM8 3 жыл бұрын

Very Interesting. Never heard about economy picking before.

@JPkulotTV 3 жыл бұрын

wow. I wish i could play like that.

@thestibblr6637 3 жыл бұрын

learn

@Growlizing 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I could, but I will never put in the time required now that I have a full time job.

@k.a.m_dh9959 3 жыл бұрын

@@thestibblr6637 honestly don't think I thought of that

@DavidNwokoye 3 жыл бұрын

7:16 SOOOO TRUE 😂😂😂

@th6n 3 жыл бұрын

You are everywhere.

@megacahh870 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@risingstorm679 3 жыл бұрын

@@th6n you too

@OkyioBlack 3 жыл бұрын

You changed your profile pic and now I don't know who you are anymore

@laurobs8 3 жыл бұрын

Herman, invite Roberto Barros... World deserves to know him. He has an awesome sharp technique and he is an awesome person. Regards!

@canaldotioluba6534 3 жыл бұрын

@rodrigofranco3716 3 жыл бұрын

@MarceloAugusto-gy9jr 3 жыл бұрын

@jparkerriffs 3 жыл бұрын

super sick

@dylanedwards2056 3 жыл бұрын

I was once one of those turds on a comment section on a JR vid and I deeply regret falling into it 😫 been trying to be a more positive person and not cave to a troll and dive into the keyboard war ever since. Love this excerpt I need to sub to Herman on Twitch. Jason gives such great insight into has technique and the application and reasoning of it here. Love his playing and analysis of the music that he creates

@marcelokuczura9660 3 жыл бұрын

Roberto Barros Cyborg the best alternate picking the universe.

@canaldotioluba6534 3 жыл бұрын

4 ever and ever

@rodrigofranco3716 3 жыл бұрын

@andyisalwaysanxious8599 3 жыл бұрын

Paul Gilbert for the win

@andremariano4426 3 жыл бұрын

@pranaakbary9924 3 жыл бұрын

Paul gilbert

@lucasjames5682 3 жыл бұрын

YOOOOOO I feel like you two should have a permanent show. I feel like Herman Li and Jason Richardson are like two of only a small few people who pushed the envelope on pure old school metal shredding in the 2000s, and honestly of these guys were probably alot of peoples first guitar player who made them say "Okay I did not know that was fucking possible until right now". There's been alot of good guitarists in the 2000s but in terms of just straight setting the fretboard on fire balls to the walls speed metal shredding these two are the ones whove kept that spirit alive in a big way

@coggenstein 3 жыл бұрын

I only found out who Jason Richardson was a week ago, now I'm obsessed with him I'm looking at guitar world videos featuring him, interviews with him. He is the first guitarist that made me want to try music for a career because he is a modern shredder making money from tabs and songs and he is so good to learn from. I've completely changed my own guitar playing style in the week that I've been listening to his music

@kerryh8er04 3 жыл бұрын

I did not expect to come to a metal guitar music theory lecture. Still cool to listen too.

@richardwilliams3497 3 жыл бұрын

Might just buy his tabs to support him, not anywhere near playing that fast but I feel like musicians especially now need the support

@jaysonfoy4486 3 жыл бұрын

Hi herman li 🤘 I am a big fan!

@wyeth1023 3 жыл бұрын

Now get Rick Graham on xD

@yugen9345 3 жыл бұрын

6:55 Follow the signs 🔥

@GrimmMusic 3 жыл бұрын

1:59 That sounded like "Sea of lies" from Symphony X

@pedrocam 3 жыл бұрын

You need to know Roberto Barros. He is a guitar monster and have an insane alternate picking technique.

@canaldotioluba6534 3 жыл бұрын

@StippGuitar 3 жыл бұрын

Betão cyborg

@unclelelax8341 3 жыл бұрын

Herman Interview Rick Graham...

@shaymiantewhau3014 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes please

@unclelelax8341 3 жыл бұрын

Economy for Effortless Speed... Everytime I hear economy picking I remember Rick Graham's WTF lick

@souravgarg2873 3 жыл бұрын

Your thoughts on SWYBRID picking? I guess it put no limits on the amount of even/odd combinations you might come across while crossing strings.

@dmitriystoyanov933 3 жыл бұрын

Playstaition One.. This is my childhood. Cool.

@interficiam 3 жыл бұрын

This video is waaaay too advanced for me. I'm here like "What are alternate and economy picking?" But I like the guitar playing :D

@TheTom951guitar 3 жыл бұрын

Alternative is like, picking down up down up down up down Economy is more like down up down down up down down up. Just the 2nd down changes string and gets a sweepy effect.

@dr.cronik0_038 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheTom951guitar thanks for that, had no idea what economy was.

@aidilmubarock5394 3 жыл бұрын

When you move to different strings you can : - Move your pick up and down aka. alternate picking or - Doing mini sweep ex. up up/down down picking(way less movement/economic picking)

@RobertoBarros 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you all for remind of me in the middle of this titans of guitar talk

@addictstudios875 3 жыл бұрын

Dope

@ed209v6 3 жыл бұрын

I use all three, alternate, sweep and economy.

@davewebster5120 7 ай бұрын

Jason is that guy.

@Celestial_Being666 3 жыл бұрын

Jason Richardson is one of modern metals best

@Daves-not-here 3 жыл бұрын

I personally would love to buy pdf tabs for Dragonforce songs. Esspecially the bass parts. I am novice bass player but love the music so being able to get the sheet music from the source would be absolutely amazing

@plebplane5037 3 жыл бұрын

9:27 *looks at guitars in the background

@lucasjames5682 3 жыл бұрын

Has anyone noticed that when jason played that slow riff he sounded literally liek Michael Romeo from Symphony X?

@tmmmedia731 3 жыл бұрын

Love them! One of the few bands I saw live before I knew who they were and stuck with me

@sahirytube 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know how to play guitar but still watching this. Just my passion for music is strong.

@cesaremacaro8961 3 жыл бұрын

You should invite Roberto Barros!!! Search for him, he has a revolutionary technique about alternate picking and also a great person to play guitar with!

@rodrigofranco3716 3 жыл бұрын

@canaldotioluba6534 3 жыл бұрын

@andersonhenrique9616 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Herman, Do you know Roberto Barros Cyborg !? He is the Brazilian guitarist for Edu Falaschi's band and has a very good concept of alternate picking, I would love it if you invited him to talk about it.

@canaldotioluba6534 3 жыл бұрын

@luisrened1308 3 жыл бұрын

Herman li is the king

@rokenrol17 3 жыл бұрын

Omg..this video is one of my dreams come true moment..but too bad they dont play something together

@4466svenjohnpetrucci 3 жыл бұрын

5:08 yeah...yeah...yeah...

@SupeHero00 3 жыл бұрын

What about Pick Slanting?

@sisoybueno28 3 жыл бұрын

Did i heard Follow The Signs solo? 👀🔥

@1mateussuetam 3 жыл бұрын

6:56 I have really, really sure that I heard this before... not this specific solo, but all this pattern reminds me from Angra so much

@chapalivre 3 жыл бұрын

Live and learn

@1mateussuetam 3 жыл бұрын

@@chapalivre no, I think that it's from the Kiko's dvds

@vilanaga740 3 жыл бұрын

Run..... Thats an octopus. Alien !!!! Aaaahhhhhh

@theunpretentiousvegan8593 3 жыл бұрын

Two legends are talking about guitar and playing amazing scales, and I'm infatuated with chat talking about all the sports they've played.

@woozy96 3 жыл бұрын

stonks picking

@ecudava 3 жыл бұрын

Rhapsody ,!!! Ahhhhh rrrrrchhhh!!!

@D-Man_Jam 3 жыл бұрын

Downpicking: _"hey."_

@leltraco1983 3 жыл бұрын

Swybryd picking is the next step.

@mattmartian1658 3 жыл бұрын

Economy or alternate? I use BAD picking. Its a mixture of both with a few unnecessary picking strokes thrown in for fun.

@cris_horizons 3 жыл бұрын

i was studying with paul gilbert long time ago and i always practice ap, but these days i realize the trhuth o ep is better , natural and eficient

@DerAykac 3 жыл бұрын

Whos that Cyborg good at again? Can someone pls tell me?

@rexpianovega 3 жыл бұрын

0: all that remains lml, six

@Blockpit 3 жыл бұрын

BASS is the answer! No picking😎

@dragonforce 3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha!

@-GameHacKeR- 3 жыл бұрын

@@dragonforce only slappp, $105.04 richer now, bass incoming ?

@Blockpit 3 жыл бұрын

@@dragonforce this reply is a big deal for me, I'm taking a screenshot and hanging it on my wall. I love you all. ❤️😭🌈

@cypherbrittainnethegodofsl4988 3 жыл бұрын

No picking, only SLAPP or TAPP

@leonardocavalcante278 3 жыл бұрын

Your don't know Roberto Barros Brazilian guitarist Don't are prepared for this

@canaldotioluba6534 3 жыл бұрын

@rodrigofranco3716 3 жыл бұрын

@gabrieljosesilvaledo 3 жыл бұрын

roberto barros is the most amazing guy in the alternate picking that the world has ever seen, please call him

@TelipatiEvolustions 3 жыл бұрын

I like shopping picking

@jygogaming3550 3 жыл бұрын

Interview Jacky vincent

@neurotica5461 3 жыл бұрын

i cant do both

@vethwynwetfeather 3 жыл бұрын

If you want to expand the picking conversation you should consider Andy Wood. 🤘

@ConstantineM 3 жыл бұрын

Why not legato?

@obayaljaber8598 3 жыл бұрын

this video will torture davie 504

@cenningitis2910 3 жыл бұрын

Any "guitar" topics would torture Davie, especially with Herman in it

@obayaljaber8598 3 жыл бұрын

@@cenningitis2910 he will pay for insulting the guitar. That's my promise

@-GameHacKeR- 3 жыл бұрын

@@obayaljaber8598 He paid already, 105 usd american dollars $$ for Herman Li to play the bass and he still didn't that stream

@JR-vp6yg 3 жыл бұрын

@@-GameHacKeR- I think Herman cannot play bass. Or he's afraid to be humiliated. 🤔😅

@-GameHacKeR- 3 жыл бұрын

@@JR-vp6yg I've had that same thought as well but even if true Herman Li is very skilled and easily learn, He could teach himself or since is also well connected with alot of other artists he could learn from a professional bassist. Also since Herman Li has shown the bass he got he could already be doing some quick lessons online with some of his friends ;) Can't wait to see what comes from this forced collab XD Gonna be EPIC

@Tucanazo69 3 жыл бұрын

You should invite Paul Gilbert

@carlosgtrs4175 3 жыл бұрын

Roberto Barros Cyborg all the way !

@ConstantineM 3 жыл бұрын

Alternative picking vs legato.

@ethanjto 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad Jason does his own tabs, I bought the whole Mega Bundle and it's really good material for serious players. I also bought Polyphia tabs, but besides the ones Tim does for his solo stuff, it has tons of errors compared to how they play it because they pay a transcriber.

@precioustimeglorydays 10 ай бұрын

this might coonfuse you but polyphia play their own songs live differently. For example, 40oz is alternate picked in the studio version, but according to Tim, it's too unrealistic to pull off every single time live since he's not an alternate picking god like richardson, so he sweeps it instead. I'd imagine they play a lot of songs differently live because the studio versions are sometimes just too much. Almost every advanced technical guitarist does this, I've noticed Abasi play the woven web differently almost every time live for some reason.

@ethanjto 10 ай бұрын

@@precioustimeglorydays I've seen them change it up a bit in live recordings, but some of the tabs are just straight up wrong notes lol. Even when Tim does his tutorials, it's different than the tabs.

@precioustimeglorydays 10 ай бұрын

@@ethanjto Yeah, because the tabs are probably the studio recorded version whereas his tutorials are how he actually plays them live.

@-GameHacKeR- 3 жыл бұрын

dude you you gotta play the bass, Davie504 even gave you some nice usd american dollars XD legit he did.

@docong89 3 жыл бұрын

105$ is too little ?

@CarlosMartinez-dh3hc 3 жыл бұрын

I think he probably uses economy without even knowing it most of the time

@anindyaroythetechmaster 3 жыл бұрын

Are you afraid of playing the Bass?

@sumit9589 3 жыл бұрын

Only economy picking

@ripit.3457 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the first 8 or 9 comments are about the same guy. If he’s that common of a goal, do it herman. Brazilians *never* disappoint. Both players, and crowds.

@iganpparamarta8813 3 жыл бұрын

Ronaldo and Ronaldinho

@ashkithara2396 3 жыл бұрын

why does his voice sound like ben shapiro

@adamguitar1498 3 жыл бұрын

You're probably watching the video on 2x speed

@g_G___ 3 жыл бұрын

105 usd,play the bass now..

@carlosbrandom. 3 жыл бұрын

Más de 12 años que se creó la banda y se ve que ah Herman aún le cuesta trabajo hablar inglés

@braydendunlap9597 3 жыл бұрын

Why does jason play better fast than slow? It's the opposite for me

@carazy123_ 3 жыл бұрын

WOO TITANFALL FAN LETS GO

@creeped_reaper2066 3 жыл бұрын

@da-gamer2017 3 жыл бұрын

hello

@louisanthony266 3 жыл бұрын

Greetings

@jerusalemsyndrome140 3 жыл бұрын

Ahoy there

@jaysonfoy4486 3 жыл бұрын

Hello there

@dragonforce 3 жыл бұрын

@th6n 3 жыл бұрын

Herman expects Davie to play underwater first, while Davie expects Herman to play bass first.

@th6n 3 жыл бұрын

@我爱你我爱你 They aren't that similar. It was hard for me to start playing bass, after 2 years of guitar and drums. Maybe it is just me.

@adeyoung3117 3 жыл бұрын

alternate better

@JbfMusicGuitar 3 жыл бұрын

Hot take: the KZfaq comments section is way better than it used to be. Case in point, this comment section.

@peeyushsn8510 3 жыл бұрын

Stop ignoring Davie504 and play the bass

@benjaminr.3588 3 жыл бұрын

I remember when Davie504 donated you

@DavidMadeira29 Жыл бұрын

Pedal to the metal and others late sandwiches...

@wesshepard 3 жыл бұрын

It’s official... Herman is a random picker.

@GaFurBLikss 3 жыл бұрын

From indonesia

@fanvoid21 3 жыл бұрын

WTH DID YOU SAY TO DAVIE AT TWICH??? ArE yOu aFraiD???¡??????

@yasminealice 3 жыл бұрын

PLAY BASS.

@muhammadihsanhabibi4393 3 жыл бұрын

Donation reject

@opmysha7469 3 жыл бұрын

im the 32nd view

@albroz6731 3 жыл бұрын

Tf is wrong with those bots of Roberto Barros or whatever his name is, he's nowhere near Jason's technique , if you really want someone that comes close to his alternate picking or that is maybe even better ,that would be Stephen Taranto.