This was not only frustrating for the dragons.... This is frustrating to watch

Ben literally threw a tantrum 😂 Look at his face! He'd be a proper nightmare to work with!

Sarah made the best decision based on nobody using it for free

They are crazy to refuse that deal, they are delusional.

They didn’t deserve Touka’s offer I thought he was going to ask for 50 😂

Touker's offer was very fair. They made a huge mistake.

Peter was so disgusted by this pitch that he didn’t even turn up

Bringing screens into everything is a no no. Reading books should be left traditional. Reducing screen time should be promoted.

Their abrupt rebuff to the Toucan's offer without even an attempt at discussion is indicative of how clueless in business these two are. He dodged a bullet there - they'd be a nightmare to work with. I think they thought they were showing their backbone, but they weren't. They were displaying their lack of gumption.

Holy cow, what a disaster, an absolute mess of a presentation and multiple instances of “making up” answers, then on top of that, they get a reasonable offer and decline it. These guys are hopeless.

Now if Peter was there and had interrupted Deborah she would have said nothing

What a hopeless pair. The older guy should have remained quiet and let the younger one answer everything. He was in a constant state of fluster and defensiveness.

How do you look at the fact only 3,000 out of 70,000 use it for free and not think what is going on?! I’ve gotta change something. Right product wrong entrepreneurs

Teaching my kids how to read was one of the most joyous, rewarding experiences of my life. I would never, ever outsource that to a device.

I don't get it. How is that supposed to help a child read? I'm with Theo, I just don't understand the purpose, cause it doesn't help them read and they're gonna get bored with it quickly. It's just audiobooks with extra steps, that's basically what they've invented here. It doesn't help them understand the words any better, in fact it seems like Sara had a good point in that it'd probably make a child's pace even slower while reading because they'll be worried too much about the animation and not with the words they're reading.

These two’re going to zero with a bullet. 100,000£ at 25%? I was expecting 40-50%. And they turned it down flat, no negotiation. Destined for mediocrity.

That scouser was slippery. Anyone that finds it that easy to lie on the fly cant be trusted. Trust is the backbone of all transactions.

These guys have got absolutely NO chance. Good GRIEF, what an absolute disaster. Guessing they've gone under?

He's a kind of saleman who sells you a trip to the Titanic in a shabby submarine.

The guy's atittude is, ironically, very childish,

Creating a world of short attention span adults.. Lovely.

These guys give big scammer vibes how they pluck numbers out of thin air

Before Touker spoke, I thought selling *something* in children books sections was the right way to do it. You can have a dozen preview leaflets that when purchased the cashier either give them an activation code or take their email address for it to be sent to; you charge 1-2 pounds extra for a leaflet (than an app alone).

5:34 the guy should go in to politics, he is great at not answering a question and attempting to baffle brains with B.S.

Ironically, these guys seem like they have never actually read a book themselves. 'Doing learning'

If I was a dragon, personally, I wouldn't want to work with these guys, just something about them... I think Touker dodged a few sleepless nights with this deal ...

"How much cocaine did you take before speaking to the dragons?" "Yes!"

If Deborah had made that offer they would have tried to negotiate a deal.

''Touker I want a divorce'' - ''In that case i dont want to be with you anymore''...... Man, this guy has such an ego

this invention actively does the very opposite of what these guys are claiming it does. it lessens imagination and incentive around reading -actual reading ,minus flashing lights and signals

Only decent Part of their website / App is you don’t have to talk or see that crazy guy on it.

Theo was awarded the OBE last week. He stated “”what’s the point I can’t play the dratted thing””

I was waiting for Theo to smash the thing and then go "This is not sturdy enough!"

too many colours, sounds, and movement, this is literally what is wrong with kids shows, cocomelon channel alone was found to have devastating effect on kids.

Givien them turning down a very reasonable offer, I'm thinking they never really wanted a dragon. They just wanted the exposure.

They came on dragons den for promotion not for a deal

Once upon a time, in the Dragons Den, two dreamers arrived and pitched their product like Gruffalos. But the fairytale had a send end and they left with nothing. Oh, what a shame!!

Screens, screens, screens 😢 One to learn how to read, one to make tooth brushing fun, etc, etc. Does no-one question this at all? Billions of kids learned to read or brush their teeth without animation 😒 I don't understand why you would want to raise your child like that.

To me, they didn’t came for investments. They came to advertise the product, but it backfired on them. They have zero sells !! like we said Touker just dodged a bullet..good for him.

No chance. The business model doesn't work. And 5% of children? They're joking, they'd be lucky to reach 0.1% of children with this. And this is ridiculously over valued. Total idiots to refuse investment. Even if it's a growing market, there will be many failures. This will likely be one of them. There is no evidence they're going to succeed at all. Doubt they get this off the ground. It was a fair offer from Touker for once. Should have taken the money.

This guy should have been Bojo's representative when it came to allegations of parties at Westminster and whitehall. Barrels of laughs guaranteed 😅 - So did the prime minister know about the parties? - tomorrow. - no, no, can you answer the question please? - five years...

Biggest mistake of their lives. Could have been millionaires in a few years, they won't achieve anything by themselves. If the idea works, Google or some other major company will do it. Also, 'Smart Books Make Smart Kids' should not have a comma...

Keeping our kids away from screen time is the way forward.

This is why tech startups need to stop being so obsessed with growing user base before they're even concerned with making profit

if peter was there he would of told them to jog on...and then go on a jog with them.

Wow - didnt even want to negotiate!

First second: cringe mode And yeah nice, just feed them images to replace the lively fantasy worlds in childrens heads in addition to all the social media and frankly quite sick kids youtube.👍

1.1 stars on the app store, what a pair of muppets 😂😂75% of a lot is better than 100% of nothing 🤷‍♂️only getting 1 like on your Instagram posts is tragic and only having 149 followers 🤦‍♂️wrong decision boys, wrong decision!

Fella on the left seemed frantic

Tej and his “pwaduct”🤣🤣

They come across a very dislikable duo

They are a couple of fools for not taking that deal. They will go nowhere now.

Clearly just there for the airtime, but they couldn't present themselves any worse. Unprepared, Unprofessional.

That guy makes a lousy entrepreneur. Keeps on guesstimating, best way to lure any investor

Ben and Lee went merrily into the den to talk to the dragons about there super new idea, Ben should of stayed at home 😅

Naive and arrogant with a throw away idea that’s way over valued.

"We know we can take this far without a dragon" so why come on the show and waste everyone's time then?

Touker's offer shouldn't be less than 33%!

Toucha waites till no1 invests then sharks an offer

Where's Peter?

I wonder if they had research backing up their claims.

If you felt that a dragon should not help you you should have not gone there i hope real books dont go a nice book to hold in stead of sitting in front of a screen i love books real books.

God saved you Touker.

That guy sounds like he went to the Pro Gains School of Business.....

I think they was out before tuca said he was out tbh

Toker got bare space for this 😁 But it was let down 😮😂😂😂

I could not work with this guy, he can't give an answer to a simple question, not sure why the 2nd guy was there, hardly said anything.

Deborah is simply the best.

Looks like that’s what they are going to do and try retail so touker give them the idea and now it’s a massive gamble that they going into retail without a dragon time will tell

They are so smart 🤓 the dragons den people

What do you remember about your childhood? A screen!

Would be better to develop the scheme for public schools.

Dragons never heard of leapfrog?

Ben looks like Mr. Bean

Nah but the thing is he’s my uncle (Ben/Benjamin ridgway)

Uploads use to be for lunch, then late lunch to after work viewing 😂

What a waste of money. Fun factor. Then just boring for the child. Ben hasn’t really thought this tru. Hahaha

Most schools give children free online access to books. The school pays, (eg razkids) the children have free access that books at any level. This doesn't work.

I'd buy that for a dollar.

This is hilarious

they should have left Ben at home

He says what he wants in the beginning. "I'm feeling excited, obviously we want to get this out to the world and that's why we're here today". They just wanted a free TV advert. They were never there for the investment.

they should have worked with schools to integrate it into the curriculum, or even better, for children for disabilities. also, great concept and great product. Bad presentation and planning by the founders. Also, way too early!

This was painful to watch

If you can take it far without a dragon then why did you come crawling on your knees into the den??????

is it just me or did they need to use the book to work on there own speech

KZfaq frustrated with outdated dragon dent 😮

They would have to grt new books and stories yo maintain subs. That isnt happening with these guys

PR stunt

Imagine encouraging a child to read like Forrest Gump

Dragons were dumb on this one

Cocaine is a helluva drug . Not good for dragons den guys

Mis take

Wow, what an original, innovative product; more electronics to babysit kids these days.

Partner with abc mouse or something, no one is looking for yet another subscription

Anyway, whats everyone eating?

this 2 taking kids for fool

No love lost again with Debra for Touker, should have told her where to shove it

Ben reminds me of Mr bean

Maybe if the Drag Ons get off television. They will have MORE TIME…. 😂😂😂