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Underrated comment if you ask me 😂😂

supply and demand

Bob Woodward, the pencil salesman

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2:00.. worth watching back lol

@Karen DeGenerous r

It's almost like the editor hand-picked it

I loved that reaction 😂 Peter: “WHY”?? GUY: “it’s scale”....... Wtf??? 😂 Just say that kids hands are so much smaller that a regular size pencil is awkwardly long. Lol. But super dumb to go in the den without a study group of children that prefer his length of pencil vs the standard. That had to be amongst one of the worst pitches ever lol. To be fair, it’s not shorter pencils that are useful for smaller hands of kids learning to write, it’s girth. My grandma was an elementary school teacher and she swore by using fatter pencils. I bought them for my son too. They cost a lot more so I only bought them when he started learning to write. Regular pencils are super dirt cheap if you buy them a month before school starts.

@@toniroberts8117 that why question is a trap. haha

Her comment about it being a "guilt purchase" absolutely summed it up for me. With no evidence to support that kids need shorter pencils (they don't, by the way. It's a fine motor control issue. At most, they might need *thicker* pencils), this is nothing more than expensive tat to guilt out stressed out parents who don't want to fail their kids. It's quite twisted, when you put it in those terms.

It’s a genius idea. All they need is £50K donation to the school’s minister and every school must buy those pencils ✏️ easy!

Did not take to that man - thought there was something strange about him . Colouring pencils are usually smaller . He seems like someone who would be very strict !

genius idea, now make a pencil breaker product n become a millionaire

@@lynx8437 I'll create a pencil breaker based on two things. The first of those two things is math. The second thing of the aforementioned two things is logic.

Always did this lol

Lol I used to do that. Then I stabbed myself once when I was spinning it around

Damn this brings back elementary school memories

He missed the opportunity, I’m surprised he didn’t because that’s a very Peter Jones thing to do lol

Personally, I'd have recommended parents go to IKEA and pick up some of those tiny pencils they give out to customers.

These entrepreneurs and the dragons are so dense -- this product has no merit.

@@s--h1584 yep, pencils and meatballs and arrows that lead in circles.

@Comrade Wolfe Absolutely brilliant! XD

I had pencils with a triangular cross section to learn with, and that was way back in the 80s.

@@StandardGoose they still use them. I had one in primary school. They are triangular and like double the width

His were technically thicker but either it was cut or never mentioned

More importantly they're thicker. Length doesn't enter into it.

Thank you

Thank god you said it

Did the dragons just not bring that up? Did I somehow miss them mentioning such an obvious point?

@@Sugarman96 Maybe they did but these videos are heavily edited 😂

or a sharp knife , cut if from middle sharp them, you have 2 of these.

Stonks

Pretty sure he was joking

Mind Control I think he was being serious.

Aditya Verma I know! Anyone with a brain knows two things. Anyone can make a pencil shorter by snapping it in half or sharpening it and if it’s profitable and no one has a patent on it there will be a lot of copycats and then it’s just a race to the bottom on price.

@@lozz0dnb He wasn't joking. High maybe.

Facts lol. Like, how can this not be tested? Of all the inventions I've seen on this show this is surely one of the ones that's most easily tested.

I recall that the pencils we used in the primary grades were about twice the diameter as regular pencils, as they were easier to hold. I wonder why they didn't consider that?

@@KuriusOranj I fully agree with you. All teachers of preschool and grade 1 and 2 actually learn to teach the children how to hold their pencils according to the size of their hands and strength of wrists. My youngest now 27 used special pencil grips on her pencils once a bright involved teacher realised her lack of wrist grip. My youngest, like both my older two have long since graduated from university cum laude and first class. The youngest continues to tutor 2nd and 3rd year university students in her bit of free time but I remember her coming back off the plane, from the end of a 3rd semester struggling to carry her luggage with all her fingers strapped. The right tool for the right job makes a major difference in the long run.

We use smaller pencils at the childcare center I worked at.

And even if the length of regular pencils _was_ an issue, a pair of cutting pliers can fix that very quickly. And you can make the pencil to your *exact* specifications. And it will be a lot cheaper than 1 dollar.

You can learn faster with a shorter pencil this get ahead of your peers

And the same with biro pens in hundreds of bookies around the country John !

Screwfix

@@nemie240 do you mean Ikea ? 😊

@@ASH.......................1976 I assumed John meant IKEA too Ash...

Wetherspoons as well.

Lol. They want to charge more for less pencil. Wont last two sharpenings.

lol

Lmao

@@allosaurusfragilis7782 chop a pencil in half and you have 2 child size pencils !!

JesusJuenger What a superb reply! LOL

Lmao

Do you let kids use impact wrenches? I never even touched one in my entire life, and definitely not while in elementary school...

@@crazymonkeyVII methinks you missed the joke

Or comically giant ones!

b u r n

Very good 😄

Nice

brilliant. you have high IQ

I looked up and its doing alright

Anybody who can’t start right away with saying what his product is, already knows it’s too ridiculous to be taken seriously, so they have to fluff up the pitch

Well said.

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yea I'm going rigid over here

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Yes. I remember those back in the 90s

I remember kids putting their fingers in it and getting a cut and crying 😂

When people were oblivious to wastage

One time I had just sharpened a pencil and I broke it in half. I turned around and awkwardly got a new one. I was in like second grade.

@@HidingInMyRoom1989 I have a very vivid memory of doing that to my pinky as a child and getting sent home because of it

That's exactly what I said to myself! Why buy a pencil purposely made smaller when a large one naturally shortens anyway when sharpening...

The whole selling point of this product is its size. Which will change after like 2 sharpens

@@neonwired4978 I'll give you a carrot and a half eaten pack of wotsits for 37%

@@neonwired4978 are give you my goldfish for 18% equaty if you give me my goldfish back alive in two years I will drop down to 10% that's my final deal no negotiating , you can go and have a chat with the wall if you like.

do they become hand me downs as you sharpen them?

More like 5-0 mph as it never got any traction in the first place!

Alix The Professional Cat Herder I’d be wary of such dismissive notions if I were you; word has it that his Pencil Empire has amassed enough wealth to fund a formidable army, at least three million strong. Our scouts report that they’re advancing from the east, no more than twenty leagues or so from here, and have made sure to pillage, plunder and burn every settlement along the way.

That's called crashing into a wall lmao.

Spot on. The "ish" part is what really cements it.

MD? You mean the narrator?

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He's a king melt

His voice even sounds similar

I thought he was quite accidental Alan when he first spoke

That's the voice I was trying to match it to!!! Thank you :D

yes but that's an extra 0.3% writing advantage over those Ferraris! all you have to do is pay an extortionate price!

The problem is that to prove writing is improved in children using these pens they would have to do a study over a number of years, testing a baseball bat could be done by someone just swinging it 10000 times in a matter of days. Not the same. Just like any vaccine to Covid 19 wont really be tested properly when we start injecting it, it will take years to find out for sure about any adverse effects

Ah, speaking of golf, I'm pretty sure a lot of clubhouses give you a writing utensil to keep track of your score on your card while playing.....Yep, nope. They definitely give you a wooden mini pencil that they have a bucket full of at their disposal.

@@KungKokkos Are you telling me easton just sends 'joe schmoe' into the back room and goes "hey swing this 10000 times and let us know how it goes?"...If you wanna market a product that is advertising an improvement, you HAVE to test that theory. Sorry they don't believe in their product enough to fund a multi-year study on it's effectiveness. It's called business, you think anyone is shelling out the cash they are to buy taylormade gold clubs because some guy just went out and swung it 10000 times in a couple days? Do you know how many millions these companies pump into r&d to prove their claims? you can't just invent something, claim it does something, and then claim "it can't be tested" if you want people to believe in it...If you can't prove improvements over a few months, it's clearly not very effective. Comparing the ability to test a child's ability to improve writing using a specific pencil when the totality of elementary school is 6 years with no hard timeline is a lot different than rushing a vaccine to market in the middle of a pandemic that can have side effects in people for the next 100 years.

@@truecrimejungle Im telling you that looking at 10 childrena development using this, over 10 years, would take 10 years. Because it's not mechanics like a robot swinging 3 000 000 swings over night

I snapped three pencils just watching this

And he complains he only has a vintage minicooper

Precisely!

Pish Posh!

Alliteration at its finest.

Pointless

Clever 😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏

And how a lot of kids prefer the mega crayons or the funny shaped ones (square and triangle) ones to the normal crayons. Also, as an adult, "normal sized" crayons feel tiny. WHY HASN'T ANYONE MADE ADULT SIZED CRAYONS YET!!!??? I base this on ideals and imagination. Common Dragons, you know you'd love to sign your next contract in a glow-in-the-dark, 'neon pink', glitter crayon that fit your hands.

It's not a very sharp idea

@@phreak761 Bit of a blunt comment if you ask me.

This guy is weighing her down with his lead

Great point. The whole idea is that it's the right size for kids, but the moment they sharpen it, it will no longer be that size anymore, lol

That was like watching Alan Partridge with Lynn silently cringing.

It's quite sad, because she obviously believed in him, and he obviously likes her. I think she probably left after this, knowing there'll be no money left soon

And sold one pack per month.

I think they explain in the presentation that Ryman had taken some stock Thomas, but only on a sale or return basis.

Come on Peter stock them in Jessops, you may save your own business...my question is why did Peter think he could save a photography business which is now split between phone cameras and professional cameras purchased online...so he is hardly an expert

@Carping 992 Bit ironic you'd choose an angle like that for criticism given that you yourself don't even seem to know the difference between their and there 🤣🤣 Be careful throwing stones inside that glass house of yours.

@Jackson Lowe Nice burn

It was the fashion at the time..

I didn't get that perception at all Michal, I just saw a pleasant exchange of views and they listened to the feedback.

an onion? i watched it again to see it omg

@@Eyeball1975 😂😂

@@Andre80962 clever 👏👏😂😂😂

Very clever 😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏

You explained that very graphitely

Very good 👏👏👏

You should audition:D

MathS.

Thicker pencils are actually better for kids generally.

@@ChrisMelville glad that grammar and spelling aren't part of math and logics

@@MrTyler0815 maths is the British abbreviation of mathematics, math is the American version of the abbreviation.

Exactly my first thought. So many flaws with this re- invention of the wheel. Eg, kids get used to using the standard sized pencil,because that is the universal size they will encounter for the rest of their lives....

It’s just a short pencil, you an pick them up from screwfix or Halfords just laying on the side to fill in cataloy

@@PoultnavSOPs argos

Just get free golf pencils for the kiddies

The maths lesson is that half-sized pencil for twice the price means four times the profit.

On a separate note; he seemed like the type of guy that drives you frickin' nuts by giving you a long convoluted answer to even the most simple of questions. A guy that somehow takes 4-minutes to tell a knock-knock joke.

He thought he will sell billion of these pencils🤣

It was so bad it was good.

Yeah... as soon as I heard that, I knew we were in for a whole lot of waffling.

...Then the dragons took the wheels off their mini.

The only criteria is entertainment value

This is why it got through lol

🤣🤣🤣🤣 the emoji like you're ashamed of it!!!

I think most , if not all kids chewed their pencils, pens , crayons etc at some time or another, but I've only chewed the ends, never as much as you did though. 😂😂😂

Someone commented the businesses net worth in 2017 was -220 thousand something

The company is dissolved as of 3rd March 2020

@@tacenth Ah, too many people found their product pointless.

The company is bot going string actually. As Peter said once... "there will always be a few people that will buy complete rubbish"

I laughed so much at your comment. Thank you

I hope you didn't think this was a good idea 🤣🤣

Alakayyy this comment is under about a dozen other dragons den videos. #yawn #copypaste

I know! When I saw the pitch I really thought it was going to be some incredibly innovative feat of engineering. Then I realised it was just a small pencil. Talk about an anti-climax! lol

the man is an absolute bumbling fool

Juicy Blue Will he truly is delusional, I feel sorry for their kids, who are losing their inheritance

Yes :D And the website is not active... so I guess i did not work... In Dollar Tree (USA) you get 16 pensils for 1 $. Cut it in half, 32 for 1 $

not even just that..... "1billion" he says

What time is it for you? Is it 8:09a? (My guess)

@@Lauren72382 1:40pm

COMBO I too am in the British time zone

COMBO days almost over bud

Emile Bichelberger do you also wear pants?

YouMustBeFibbing if only they sold a pencil that was long enough for him to vault home

@@jaysee5397 It'll be easier to find a teacher who will make class so fun and addictive no one wants to go home.

@@youmustbefibbing7376 maybe Peter can use those 6 foot plus legs to run him out of that dreary explanation on how to use a pencil

I sharpened my pencil down to 55% of its original length once. Turns out, that wasn't enough to pass my math and logic class

where do you see that?

@@Gumden Research the brand name on Google and find their information on Companies House, then view the accounts.. not rocket science

In Dollar Tree (USA) you get 16 pensils for 1 $. Cut it in half, 32 for 1 $

@@spaceman_3194 I didn't have the write tools.

@@spaceman_3194 alright mardy bum.

anyone know where the business is today?

Stan Laurel: 'You can take a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead.'

@@RockyDave 😂😂👏👏

Same lol

@Orion what product has doubled in price after dragon investment please?

Yes, or 'your business is not quite as far along to be at an investable stage, yet'.

I agree 💯

You are write.

Except the golf pencils are cheaper. Any regular pencil can be cut down to a custom size.

Or those mini pens you get at the bookies.

Haha, "point"

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I'm sure that patent will go through right after the flow signal patent.

So who has to pay royalty? The user, the pencil maker or the pencil sharpener maker? Imagine he takes all three to court.

Right but if the pencil is done faster you have to buy twice as many of them, for a way higher price than a regular pencil. If he somehow got the ministry of education to put his product in public schools he’d make 3 or 4 times as much money as the current pencil makers, unfortunately that’s transparent to the taxpayers too