having a civil debate about un-civil things is hard, "it is what it is"

Why? Watching mudslinging is entertainment. It fans the drama. The more toxic/destructive it gets the better LOL

I don't really trust at all, how much longer this stays till shit happens again

@@akira8393 hmmm when does AZURE PROM release the new drama war begins there XD

@@GambaAJ and then baby eggshell is gonna shove his rotten egg in and then cries why people hate him.😑 The cycle continues

😂 sooooo true

I can sympathize with mtashed frustations against tectone behaviors and his react contents.Personally I don't like tectone react contents. But the way Mtashed handle the situations is wrong. He could just say to stop making react content about him privately or publicly.

@partyanimals9026 he did in the past as well as other creators telling tectone that his words carry weight and it sends people over to other CC's when he reacts to them. Tectone just never listened.

@@lichmourne00nah he agreed he never directly asked him to stop he said he made “hints” like “haha another reaction video” thats not good enough. Mtashed should have communicated privately directly. All of this really should have been a private discussion fr. Even if he didnt want to be friends anymore he could have just told him that

As someone that only recently discovered HexJuice with the lead up to Wuthering Waves' release, not through Tectone or anyone else's recommendation, I've already seem how she can come across as disingenuous with how she titles her content with the primary goal being maximizing engagement, or "click bait" as it were. I found it baffling how she was making negatively skewed videos about ZZZ, then had a follow up questioning why everyone was being so negative, and a separate one addressing how she personally feels about current gacha games she has or has had interest in. I get that it's part of the content creation process. I do respect her video on this drama to try and put it to bed, establish her stance, and that she doesn't need to be defended as she can handle herself, and we can only take her word on that. With this whole mess playing out publicly, it was obvious that she didn't want to get into an argument with Tectone about it, and at some point it seemed to click that this is what it feels like to be on the other end of the isolated "debates" both Tectone and Hex have gotten into with hateful/instigating chatters. Mtashed had that moment as well, and said as much, and it obviously is not a good feeling, especially with how Tectone seems to excel with keeping his "opponent" on the defensive without properly prepared rebuttals. Hell, Mtashed said it himself regarding him wanting to test his and Tectone's friendship and to see if he valued their friendship higher than hashing out their issues with each other. Hex, meanwhile, has an established friendship, and only had her first interactions with Mtashed before the call. In that regard, she clearly has more to lose if she burns bridges with her friend over an almost acquaintance. His words were twisted, at points, but he was also saying exact words that Tectone would emphasize, only for Mtashed to backpedal or say something worse. I can understand his frustrations, especially if it's been festering for so many years, but he went into this with a horrible mindset and handled it very poorly. He didn't need to get involved, he should have kept this to private messages between himself and Tectone, and neither of them should have streamed this debacle in the first place. They're all at fault for this, and they won't apologize for it. At the same time, we need to stop psychoanalyzing each other, and be more willing to have civil discussions, give each other a fair chance without belittling the other. This escalation could have been avoided entirely if Mtashed just accepted that Tectone was pissed, did not want to talk to him, and that he'd happily remove any videos where Mtashed was the subject. He told his editors not to make content about this and they didn't, so credit where it's due, he's a man of his word in this regard. Tectone pulled Hex into the call in order for her to speak for herself on the matter, she has shown the DMs and explained where she thought they had an understanding on the matter. She felt he was using her, and others, as examples for how Tectone treats his friends rather than keeping it to just issues he had. To her it felt like he went back on his word that he would keep her out of it, and then he calls her a snake, which would upset just about anyone, no? Mtashed didn't need to swoop in to save her or anyone else regarding this, and he only made the argument that had been settled privately worse. This started with an argument between her and Tectone, so she wasn't inserting herself into it, but being pulled back in before getting any time to walk away and let things cool down entirely. This all could have been handled better, but it wasn't, and the spectators and other commentators need to drop it, but they won't. It's becoming beyond childish how many are throwing insults or regurgitating things like calling Hex a snake over this. Especially here on youtube, where we only get pieces of the whole picture. For what we do get to witness, none of them are in the right here, they all made mistakes, got heated and likely won't change for better or worse because of it.

Hex be like: I don't want anyone whiteknighting me. Also her: You're using me as a shield to confront your issues. And she still can't see the contradiction in her words. Smh.

Something about tectone's manipulation was just especially gross this time around. It was like watching someone who holds all the cards strong arm someone to fold against their will, and the victim backwards rationalizing it. Fundamentally, this all started with Tectones disrespectful comments. Criticisms are fair, but him calling other CC's "dumb" and "whiny bitches" is unnecessary. It does damage beyond just "feelings" and paints CC's in a negative light; that effect is made worse because of his influence and following. He absolved himself of all responsibility where he got to save face talking to people privately despite disrespecting them publicly. He publicly disparaged a ton of people, made himself to be the victim/good guy, and there was no public apology, accountability, or semblance of responsibility or empathy after that. Just because "it's all good" now gives people the impression that what he did was ok. It's textbook gaslighting.

When reality smack his eggshells😂

Tectone literally has his shit called out on youtube comment section for 5 years he began content creating from the past drama, why do people seems like just figured it out now lol, yall are new in this community

@@DegenKingYT Tec knows this… he literally makes KZfaq videos of people calling him out. Hex on the other hand is new to it

@@shan_leviathan because most people don't give a shit till now. I never knew about him if it wasn't for the arkknights community that told me.

@akira8393 let's be fair and not trust everything about Arknights. The person he had drama with was a shitty person that caused problems elsewhere. Tectone is an unreasonable dick now because of all the drama that wasn't his fault in the past, making him into what he is today. He apologized for that drama and hashed things out only for that person to backstab him years later, causing him to never want to apologize again. There is a lot of nuance around Tectone drama since he's gown into just accepting it and perpetuating it at this point.

MTashed wasn't such a soft boy about none of this would have happened. Not hard to DM your friend.

​@@quake9645calling out someone who has been nuisance in the space and has been harming your image is not being softboy.

​@@toobroke7522true but he needs some testosterone pills 😂

@@toobroke7522 soft boy if you ask me mate, only one offended was him. Any normal friend would have DM’d before doing whatever that was on his livestream

@@toobroke7522 as someone who likes both tectone and mtashed, tectone isnt hurting mtashed's image by saying he quits games, he does every time i as a viewer enjoy him playing something he's done with it because he's cleared all that he can without spending more money which is a fair reason but he does quit games at that point or stops covering them which is quitting in terms of youtube that's about it. i feel like in this case there was an issue between tectone and hex and mtashed kinda tagged himself into it because instead of messaging tectone before he let the annoyance build up he let it boil over. just as hex said in the video where tectone apologized to her being friends with tectone means that you have to set boundaries bc if you ask him to stop doing something and he views you as a friend then he will but if you dont say anything about it he's gonna assume you know he's just fucking around and doesnt intend to actually hurt anyones feelings or image that he is friends with. and you cant say setting boundaries shouldnt be a part of a relationship because that's just a nieve take and how you end up in situations like this by not being able, or not taking the time to draw a line of "hey i dont like the way you said this do me a favor and lay off this subject please" and just let it go if they do it again after youve stood your ground on that then toss em out.

Not for you but it’s clear you do favor teccy which is fine

@@kanna2746 fr

@@Edwoonie Yeah I pretty much lost all respect for her. She got humiliated by Tectone in front of her chat and got sympathy from Mtashed and then went full anti on him. Mtashed used some wrong words but she showed she have no self respect or integrity.

ignoring a content creator is that worst fear and punishment. like if they are fun controversial then they can farm are but then getting ignored oh boy that not good

How bias is this comment section ? Mtashed was being "goofy" for baiting and forcing himself between Tectone and Hex, when it was none of his business. Tec and hex already resolved it by themselves but they are considered "disgusting" 🤣 what ??

@@toobroke7522 My thoughts exactly

ikr. idk why people complain about lack of content tbh

Yeah she basically wedged herself into an argument that wasn't even about her to try to capitalize on views. Mtash wasn't even defending her, it was just that he saw the typical Tectone debate tactics on display that he himself had been victim to in the past and he decided to talk about it. This is pretty much what Tectone is known for. Like half his videos are drama, his channel is basically Real Housewives of Gacha.

@@UhnTisUhnTis And yet it sparked from Mtashed's reaction over the argument Hex and Tectone had prior, so she was involved regardless of her desire to move on. He should have left well enough alone, or at least kept it to private messages/calls without either side streaming it. Same goes for the initial argument between Hexjuice and Tectone, but I guess that content creation brain is harder to turn off than most of us would know.

​@@UhnTisUhnTisdamn now i know why my grandma likes to watch shitty drama soaps. like if i like watching these trash drama gatcha videos it completely makes sense now. 💀

@@siliconhawk9293 MTashed went full goof mode on Tectone in his livestream. Hex kinda snaked him, and Tec is still bald. Only matter of time before he loses another friend due to blinding someone with his shiny head

mf said she's a good creator lmao so ?

Nah you are right. Mtashed was caught off guard and she was purely siding with tectone this entire discussion despite her dms and everything before the discussion started.

@@Afronautsays both Hex and MTashed were from Slytherin

​@@tommyshelby994 it's a shame really because I liked her content but now I just can't bring myself to watch her

I feel the same

that doesn’t make sense

Nah, no one's a winner in this regard. Let's just hope they can move on and go their separate ways and remain civil about it.

​@@mcflufferkins Tectone always wins no matter if the drama is negative or positive. People are gonna learn about this and forget about it by next week.

@@hido... Yeah, and it's a shame that people don't seem to understand that. Any press is good press, and the only way to lose is to be met with widespread apathy.

@@mcflufferkins He didn't have much to lose. He's the most entertaining out of both of them. All have a community, hopefully doesn't turn 'Nuclear'. Everyone made their points clear.

Very true but emotions were high everyone was on edge and stressed it's unfortunate but at least all is well now

Could've been entirely avoided, but I guess some of this needed to happen. Especially when it does seem Mtashed was harboring a lot of issues with Tectone, and Tectone wasn't helping by perpetuating the jokes about him quitting games. Being the butt of a joke is never going to feel good unless you were the one to make the joke first. This was the opportunity Mtashed took to finally air this out, and if they have indeed agreed to go their separate ways, I hope it's going to be for the betterment of all involved parties.

Where's the fun in that?😂😂😂

@@cyber2cyke Would've been something else for us to grab the popcorn for, rest assured.

I dunno if it would still go off well, because some drama in the past tectone had screenshot going around "yeah this guy is a piece of shit" i guess we wouldn't got this mess but i dunno to be sure.

She expressed as much in her own video. She wasn't Mtashed's friend before and especially not after this. She got pulled into the call and was obligated to speak for herself on the matter. She assumed Mtashed understood where she was coming from, and clearly there was a miscommunication there. I don't consider her a snake, but I also don't consider her a neutral party in this at all, despite what she may have wanted to be.

​@@mcflufferkins oh? Then please her actions on Tash chat and during DMs then.

@@mcflufferkins Again, I'm not siding with Mtashed as he could've handled this better. But the words she chose to type on Mtashed chat says otherwise. When tec and tash were arguing, tash clearly states he was not defending hex. And hex called tash out on tec's chat (clearly siding with tectone). And they just circle jerked to the argument that "Tash is defending Hex" which clearly wasn't the point that tash is arguing. Edit: For me, she was a snake still. In the sense that what she told Tash on his chat as well as DMs, took a 180 at that point to throw mtash under the bus, painting mtash as the villain of the whole argument. If that ain't snake behavior, I don't know what is.

@@ShouheiSuzuki Not sure what you're asking here, mind elaborating?

@@xTiddi Fair enough, I'm sure I've missed plenty of context regarding what was said and done as I do not participate in any of their twitch streams. She does seem to have a tendency to contradict herself from one video to the next, but also seems to be surprised when people take things too far, when she really shouldn't be. She comes across as ignorant to her self-contradictions. Playing it off as shitposting or click bait for the sake of views. Her words and actions definitely conflict with each other, especially during this debacle.

And that's all good if you do not want to

@@GambaAJ Thanks mate and before you asked, I don't hate the game lol. Fixed Typo. No sleep does to a mf lol

Dont care ZZZ The game is faking MID 100 hour+++= Wasted Time 🤡

if you do not like it or do not want to play it that's fine I understand

​@@GambaAJwell the content creators sure doesn't. Unfortunately. Play the whole game for a review, by that logic i have to play 2000 levels to give review about candy crush🤣

God, you really put into frame how pathetic this is and how watching it like I do makes me look lmao

For content creators not normal people just for CCs

Legit horrible take that you need to play 20-40 hours to know the game is fun or not for you, I've no idea where's that logic even came from.

TY MY GUY I GOT IT OUT EARLY THIS TIME

your profile pic has me dead with your comment XD

@@GambaAJ wow i didnt notice xD

not if you can't utilise it. it has the same issue as genshin yes there is more to the combat than mashing buttons but its useless if you cannot use it because the enemies die too quick. and the only difficult it ever has is to make a sponge with a time limit. that is not exactly good game design imo. Wuthering has a better difficulty scaling in that sense. you can button mash if you really build up a team, but the difficulty spike also comes from different moves set by the bosses. every hologram from level 4 has multiple new moves i think 3 that that boss can use

your ok I understand TY for sharing your opinion

Most of the CCs tend to stay away from drama and toxicity, only few live and breath drama and don't realize the power of his words and the blatantly calling people with different opinions with him stupid, dumb, retrd etc.

@@GambaAJ love u bro 👍

@@ShouheiSuzuki I didnt like hex opinions in gacha games overall but i had to admit she handled the situation really smart even when she was not mentally calm. Tectone is not really a bad dude but sometimes he does things like this and is really not worth at all.

Appreciate it man right back at ya

TY appreciate it legit popped up in my mind when find out about their entire situation

TY BRO APPERCIATE YOU

just a bit too loud… dunno if you know how to sidechain compression, otherwise turning the music down just a bit would be perfect 👌

I will look into TY for the feedback

@@prestonleebenjamin yup music is definitely too loud I could barely hear pewdiepie in his clip

Oh it's from persona? I was wondering where the music was from, it sounds really good. I gotta play the series one of these days

And no, not everything is bad about zzz I am just focusing in the combat because it is the core mechanic (or it should be, personally tvs looks like the core mechanic due to the time that it takes if you compare to the "gameplay") and also it was advertirse like that and is even a hack n slash imagine a DMC sucking in the combat or any other hack n slash

Oh believe me I agree about the ZZZ combat being mid WuWa will be the main gacha I cover on my channel

underneath the mask p5 color your night p3 spacewalk HSR

@@simplyrem779 it was just how the community not everyone but some people go all in on creators like Ryuuku for a review and he has been under heat for a while so I hope people are just a little more respectful towards him

MOST OF IT BUT WITH THE RYUUKU SIT WE WIL SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IN GACHA COMMUNITY

It's from Persona 3 Reload OST. I don't remember the exact song but all the songs are good. EDIT: It is "Color Your Night"

COLOR YOUR NIGHT P3

@@GambaAJ ty king

I can tell you right now nothing changes in endgame for Zzz the bosses just get more health and the TVs don't really change much it's the same stuff really The games cool I guess

No its garbage casino gambling like every other shitty one that does nothing new or right

Game still sucks

@@josephwong5859 Ty bro

Rent free

People weren't praising me blindly wtf , surprised pikachu face. - tectone

actually mtashed didn't know how to express himself but he didn't start it. mtashed saw when tectone insulted him very disrespectfully without dropping his name (again, tectone/mtashed/viewers all know mtashed is the meme of complaints and mtashed is auto-grouped into it), mtashed wanted to tell tectone to f off (and that's what mtashed said he wished he had done). it's a sick feeling when you know you're the main meme but because tectone didn't name drop you, you don't know how to respond. did you see the way tectone was throwing insults? that was not a joking tone, and everyone knew mtashed was one of them. anyway, when mtashed used the example of bullying by using a meme, that's likely because that's what he felt. mtashed already wanted to respond, but he was uncertain how, because tectone insults mtashed in public without name dropping and by claiming it's a meme. anyway, very sick feeling to be on the receiving end (and mtashed has been stressed out long-term by tectone already even before this). actually, mtashed mentioned this already. he said tectone paints in such a broad stroke that you fall under his umbrella of insults, but he doesn't have to directly name you. Anyway, with all the gaslighting and twisting, mtashed got dumbfounded in the live call and he admitted he was the instigator, forgetting that he was the one who originally wanted to "respond" by telling tectone to f off, forgetting that tectone was the one who dragged him in again without naming him. BUT then tectone went and did that horrible gaslighting and straw manning that many normal viewers who saw that instantly recognized that was really bad, like how ppl gaslight in abusive relationships. That was a perfect example, and any react channel would've used it as the main material to illustrate their point. however, because hex misled mtashed, the direction ended up being hex saying "I don't need you to defend me/white knight for me", and the MAIN purpose of reacting to that was forgotten (also because hex joined his chat during it and so he thought she needed his support). But the main reason he started that was legit how any reactor would. That tectone vs hex debate was the perfect material to illustrate the point, and any reactor would use it as the main support evidence to back their points REGARDLESS of whether they wanted to defend hex. So actually, mtashed as a CC should have used that footage regardless (and mtashed did say he was NOT white knighting for hex, but hex kept on saying "I don't need you to defend me" repeatedly no matter how many times mtashed said he was doing that for himself first and foremost. And yes, if you have a point to make against tectone, you SHOULD use that footage of tectone vs hex. no youtuber in history would have ever seen such a clear demonstration of tectone's character and not used it. tectone did his gaslighting into making mtashed think that footage was a taboo to use, and mtashed fell for it. literally that's the perfect footage to use and no youtuber would've not used it (think channels like coffeezilla, kavos, moistcr1tikal, etc.). reacting to such a clear footage to expose whoever you're exposing is the key. tectone and hex guilt tripped mtashed into thinking he shouldn't have reacted to that (likely cause hex confused the hell out of mtashed at that point).

NO it was not

CAN YOU DO SOMETHING FOR ME 21 21 21 XD

@@GambaAJ 22

I think its super fun better than wuwa that crashes 24/7

@@Ninjabladeyokotofufu 1.Copium 2.Skill issue

@@Gabstepp potato device and im sure lots of pirated software also