Fish with 0.4 on the clock against San Antonio was one of the craziest shots in NBA History! Facts.

It’s too hard to tell but Kobe was my favorite player so lakers in 7 lol

Lakers winning no doubt! No one's stopping Shaq and no one's stopping Kobe when it's time for him to cook.

Kd klay and curry on the court that mean you not gone have much help if any so they playing one on one all night 😂😂and shaq wasn’t gone be able to sit in the paint that’s a tough matchup for both teams

This is not a contest. I’m not a lakers fan, however that Laker team was a tough pill to swallow. They had size, shooters Shaq and Kobe. Small ball would not have worked against this Team. Shaq and Kobe would’ve had 75+ a night.

Lakers dominate with Shaq in the post that 01 Lakers squad was deep they could shoot the 3 and could adjust you can’t adjust to Shaq.

Lol nobody can stop shaq especially and Kobe. They literally are completely unstoppable lol

I don't think y'all understand how good Kobe was at that age. He could literally guard curry klay and KD with him an fox switching on them. Fisher could definitely chase curry around young fish.

The biggest achilles heel of Shaq's Lakers teams have always been "quick, scoring guards". Mike Bibby & the '02 Kings Double High Post offensive sets nearly destroyed the Lakers. Bibby was receiving hand-offs from Webber/Divac and pulling up wide open 20 footers, which would be three-pointers against Curry. Allen Iverson did a number on the Lakers in 2001 as well, and then finally, Chauncey Billups ended that dynasty. Neither Derek Fisher, Gary Payton, or Kobe was able to guard Chauncey, If Shaq coudn't defend the baseline pick'n roll of the late 90's early '00s, what makes you think he can defend the high pick'n rolls today?

D Fish keeping Steph to high 20s but Steph cooking… Shaq a whole cheat code… Kobe eats Klay KD going off 🤷🏻‍♂️ Green would get man handled by Horace Grant while trying guard Robert Horry at the 3 Lakers in 5 Lakers in 6 Warriors in 6 Lakers in 5

The Lakers would have the 2 best players on the court plus they would be tougher mentally

i think Phil Jackon would be the difference maker. He was pretty good

Cool talk. My lasting D Fish memory is actually him hugging Baron Davis and Stack Jack during the 2nd round of the We Believe teams run VS. Utah. Jazz were enroute to closing out the series and the Ws were literally going to go down fighting, it almost looked predetermined. Then D Fish who was on Utah but had been on GSW stepped in like a vet and the game ended without incident.

On Gil’s Arena last week, Kenyon Martin did a great job also talking about Shaq’s dominance in the finals. I’d like to see Kenyon tell Dray lol.

Warriors lightning they ass up from three

The greatest team ever in the ‘96 Bulls

Imagine not being able to hand check and grab Kobe and Shaq i.e todays rules… they would truly be unstoppable and the reserve energy not having to physically fight off defenders allows for more energy for them on the defensive end hypothetically speaking.

The only thing that matters here is what rules they are playing? If you aren’t allowed to man handle Steph and Klay and just let them rain 3s off of pick and rolls, math says 3 beat 2s. But if they can physically beat up GSW’s back court and KD…. This isn’t even a debate who wins. The combined offensive power on GSW was unreal in today’s game, but all 3 shrunk from physicality.

The 2017 Warriors had Igoudala and Klay to defend Kobe. Shaq could foul out GS bigs and it would not affect the offensive weapons on GS. Warriors in 7.

Fish Lue Kobe Shaw Fox George Horry Grant Shaq Yall forget what a roster Lakers had. Everyone played their role and hit big shots.

Shaq gonna be tired running up and down. Bill Russell already laid out the gameplan

It’s fun to have the conversations, but realistically the eras had each team playing so different it’s impossible to compare

Saying you would get in front of Diesel and guard him is not realistic.

You would have to play a series from 2001 and again from 2017 because of rules and the changes

As a lakers fan, it’s difficult to say. ‘01 Lakers fan was great. ‘17 Lakers was great. Let’s be honest, I don’t think anyone on the Warriors can guard Shaq. Kobe’s determination to win and dominate is also a huge factor. For the Warriors, that team likes to move around, moving the ball. If they can somehow keep the ball away from Shaq they’d have a good chance.

As Draymond said it depends on the style they get to play in, in Draymond era Shaq wouldn't make it alot of his stuff would be offensive foul... But playing in shaq era it would be over for Dubs & im Dubnation but just speaking facts

Every team tried every defensive scheme against prime Shaq and none of them worked. And every team tried to stop Kobe and none could. Lakers in 6

Man it’ll be one hell of a series, and throw 96 Bulls in it too… sport fans heaven match ups don’t matter who wins or lose

What rules we going by

Not only was Shaq hyper dominant, so was Kobe. Nobody is stopping Kobe on that Warriors team. If the Warriors focused their entire defense on Shaq, then Kobe would go off. If they focused on Kobe, then Shaq would destroy them. The Warriors simply did not have the personnel to guard either. The Lakers would have a hard time with KD above all.

Simulated this in 2K, 1st half was always close, but 3rd quarter is when Warriors always pull away. Just too fast too quick

Kobe would drop 81 points

Now let’s see Matt Barnes card….

The idea of different rules in different eras is highly overrated. Refs always swallow their whistles in high stakes games, especially in the playoffs/finals. Superstars and guys with defensive reputations get the benefit of the doubt as well. That's always been true from the 1980's all the way to today, the rules in high stakes games with superstars is largely the same

People forget that Lakers were rolling the year they played the pistons until karl malone got hurt. He wasnt 100 percent in the playoffs or finals. If he werent coming back from injury it would of been a different outlook.

Shaq being a major mismatch is the reason why I can’t see them winning. And then Kobe’s defense against Kyrie shows how tough it is to easily score against him

Damn nobody here watched 01 shaq lol. Literally the most dominant single player in league history that year

lmao three peat lakers had everything from offense all the way to defense. Warriors would have absolutely no game plan against that lakers squad.

I’m just gonna assume the majority of people commenting were babies when the 01 lakers squad ran through those playoffs like a hot knife through butter, Shaquille was literally slam dunking on 4-5 people at once, Kobe is Kobe, Phil is Phil, and they had plenty of good role players, lakers 4-2 respectfully

The 15-1 team was unbeatable

Thank you to Draymond for giving the Spurs some shine!👍🏾

KD is a huge X factor. It would be a great series but I have the Lakers winning 4-2.

What people do not understand about this debate is (I still cannot figure out who would win tho) 1. It is impossible to guard KD or Shaq. If you think otherwise, you don't know basketball. 2. In 01', Fisher shot 51.5% from the 3, and 59.4 eFG% in the playoffs, even with hand-checking. I know most of 90s-00s players cannot adapt in today's game, however, Fisher definitely can.(and I know that double/triple team on Shaq has a lot to do with it). 3. Kobe wasn't in his prime in 01'. He was great + he was one of elite guards in that time, however, he still was only 22. But both Steph and Klay were in their absolute peak in 17'. I'm not saying who's winning, however, people saying oh Kobe or Fox can lock up 17' KD or oh Warriors will make Shaq look stupid with today's defensive scheme... or think Kobe in 01' would kill 17' Klay or Iggy...those things are just blasphemy.

Look who gave the Lakers trouble. The Kings, 76ers, and Pistons, they all had quick teams with quick guards. Warriors would of torched them

LOVE THE CONFIDENCE BUT EVEN DRAYMOND KNOW THIS AINT NO WARRIORS IN 5💯🤣🤣🤣

This question is ridiculous. I think that lakers team beats the bulls of the 90s. But the 17 warriors have to many shooters. To many people to guard

My fave nba coach

Why are the 2017 warriors always better than the 2018 warriors .. 2018 warriors should have been even better

Depends what rules they’re playing in, early 2000s you can play pretty physical defense without fouling and a lot of the dribbling that is done today may be called travels. Modern rules Warriors have the advantage overall, but Shaq would dominate because the Warriors would probably use the death line up and be heavily undersized.

My Lakers are winning that thang in 6 and I'm being nice. Kobe and Shaq locked in, nobody is beating them. When they lost to the Pistons, they weren't locked it and at odds with each other. That's what it took for them to beat my Lakers that was coming off a 3peat.

Yeah right!!! That 01 playoff run by the Lakers was one of the most dominant in history. And a lot of that was because of elite defense. The Warriors back then would've gotten swept. Now if the series is played today, I think the Warriors have the edge but the Lakers are still the better team because like Draymond said, they changed the rules to benefit them so much. And I still don't think they would be a lock to win because they can't set those pick n rolls on Shaq like they can with other teams

if we are talking about 1 game i will give it to gsw, but in 7 games series its the lakers man , lakers will beat you up like a real fight how physical they are

Not even a gsw fan but The whole lakers team gon be out of stamina in 6 minutes tryna chase Steph klay and KD lmao

“Era “Which is draymond point out during their talk . Any one who hate his claim without analyzing is just a hater.

I feel like Rick Fox would handle Klay well. And Kobe & Shaq would outscore Steph & KD. Lakers in 6.

There's no debate everybody got a podcast ain't smart Aside from noone stopping Shaq There's Kobe 🐍🎤

I hate the argument old heads always use saying they will just beat the teams today up and that’s just ridiculous. Shaq always says he’ll just knock Steph on his ass and essentially just injure him but when has he ever done that? I remember players like iverson, Nash, stockton, mugsy bouges, tony Parker and many many more all being fine and Shaq never did anything

Warriors would win this matchup. It would be competitive but peak Warriors was insane. Fitness levels increased (better nutrition, understanding the importance of sleep, workout techniques, etc). The Warriors would have ran the Lakers ragged. It's not a fair comparison to be honest. Coaching schemes also progressed a ton with a bigger emphasis on basketball IQ. One cannot crack an NBA roster anymore purely on athleticism. The systems today are so sophisticated. And then there's the elephant in the room which is that 40% from 3, beats 50% from 2.

Laker in 6 or 7 if 2017 rules, Laker in 5 if 2001 rules

Lakers winning the first 3, then GS winning 2, then LA wins 2, then Shaq is injured - GS wins 3, shaq returns, La wins 3, and do on until LA wins 50-32.

Ain’t no one on that team stopping Shaq and Kobe on defense I think the Lakers would win in 5 the lakers would have to step up a bit on defense though

Lakers smack them within 6

I dont see how the warriors win this series. They talk abour their offensive prowess, which is valid for obvious reasons, but they dont think theyll end up in foul trouble? What good is that offense when theyre sitting on the bench with 3 fouls in the first quarter lol

*watching unbiasedly*

The DUBS Would get the DUB Because we had so much Talent and A Bench, Ball Movement! Rick Fox would be No answer for Durant, Fisher couldn’t Guard Bibby so imagine what Steph would do

With the rules now who can stop kobe? Only thing would change is that kobe will be the dominant and shaq will be the support if they play with the rules now.

Allen Iverson sixers won a game against the Lakers u think that sixers team is going to come close to beating the golden state warriors 17 team hell no. They beating the Lakers in 6

Lmao Shaq and Kobe were so unstoppable. Lakers in 6

Stop the debate bro, No one would be able to guard shaq. Everybody foul out end of discussion

I’m personally taking the warriors but I feel like it would be a blowout either way. I don’t see it going 6 or 7 games. Their styles and strengths are too different so I feel like either the lakers or warriors would dominate the other

Shaq makes his free throws it's a rap 4-1 Lakers baby!

protected from the size is insane (pause)

If the sac kings gave the lakers problems, just imagine what KD,curry, and klay would do to them lol

Game will be too physical for warriors. After first two, worriers lineups would be banged up

Softer rules protect the Warriors. REAL BASKETBALL RULES the Warriors are dominated.

Lakers winning that! No one stopping Shaq! And Kobe was the closer 😊

Lakers in 5, shaq would have dropped 38-15 on them dudes, fouled out the entire warriors frontline and slowed the pace of game to a crawl. Way less possessions for the warriors cuz of that. Lakers would have got wide open 3’s, can’t run if u can’t rebound, warriors not out rebounding that lakers team. A dominant post up big dictates the pace of the game. Shit i didn’t even mention kob that’s how lopsided this match up would be in my mind

Derek Fisher said out his own mouth “we might have a chance” lol

people acting like it’s gonna be a 5 on 5 🤣 what about the bench players and rotations ? shaq not playing 48 minutes he gonna get tired , he gonna get ripped or blocked or miss 😂 . what about when kobe go on the bench ??

Its a 7 game "who knows" tyle series. Shaq would foul out half thier roster at least twice but the warriors would run them off the court when theyre hitting shots.

Lakers in 4- EASY! That specific team could NOT be stopped. 🤷🏾‍♂️

The thing is no matter how many 3’s golden state shoot shaq is still going to bring problems especially for the golden state bigs

The Lakers win that matchup 4-1 at worst .. it wouldn't even be that competitive... GS never faced a team as defensively sound , talented and disciplined as that Lakers team

Kobe guarding Steph Fish on Klay Fox on KD Horace Grant on Draymond Shaq on Zaza The biggest mismatch will be Shaq and Zaza and KD/Klay vs Fish and Fox the difference is Fish and Fox only have to focus on defense KD and Klay will have to worry about Kobe on the other end Iggy off the bench is huge to d Kobe but that small ball line up will be tough bc Shaq can live with Draymond shooting I don’t think Draymond could guard Shaq at 6’6 but Rodman did do a fairly good job Rebounding gotta give huge edge to lakers they’re a grittier team Kobe can out rebound Klay and Horace and Shaq can out rebound Dray and Zaza Off the bench Horry Shaw Ron Harper are championship pedigree guys and Horry can be used with Shaq to make it hard for Draymond to help on Shaq since Horry is a clutch shooter who could make 5 3s in a playoff game The warriors pick and roll with Shaq will be hard but Kobe is the best person you want fighting over the screens It’s a 7 game series but I’m rollin w Lakers bc game 7s are normally more physical and I’ve seen Steph go cold vs physical defense in game 7s meanwhile the warriors are gonna have a hard time keeping Kobe and Shaq out the paint

once again the people in the comments saying the Lakers would win are probably the same ones who cried about KD joining Golden State. if they lose every hypothetical i guess it wasn't an unfair move

Lakers winning. So many open 3’s with Shaq in the paint, Kobe able to pick his spots in the floor because of the defense collapsing around Shaq

Who’s Shaq gonna guard? He is a defensive liability.

The only team could really beat the 2017 warriors is the 92 dream team!!!!

The Warriors almost lost to the Rockets stop it they had no chance against the ‘01 Lakers

That Warriors team is just not historically great So many teams would trash them it’s just sad

Lakers will literally win it. No one can guard Kobe and Shaq in GSW 17.

it’s a coin toss n more of a coaching matchup cuz both teams can’t play man to man🤣

Draymond has to realise that they, the Warriors, can't grab or hold in today's rules either, so not only can Steph and Klay run around untouched.... imagine Kobe playing with no one allowed to touch him as well. Kobe's gonna dominate and he'd be fine chucking up 3s. Shaq's going for 50 on 20/25 shooting and 10/20 FTs after fouling out Draymond and whatever other big guy they throw at him. Shaq dominated other bigs that could bump and shove him on D, Shaq v undersized guys that aren't allowed to get physical..... BBQ CHICKEN!!!!! The only negative for Shaq would be having to switch more often than he'd be used to, he would be a bit of liability on D.... but not any more than the guys that are guarding him would be. Shaq will score more than he concedes. Too many people have blown smoke up Draymond's arse and it's made him extremely arrogant.

01 lakers beat 17 warriors in 6

It's funny how Draymond keeps on asking this rhetorical questions. . Bruh with these warriors line up with KD the center, Kobe would guard 1 to 5 . Now whos guarding prime Shaq and prime Kobe?! 🤦

Bring Back Boogie Cousins to the Warriors!!

Lakers would win - but the things that Curry would do to Fisher ..

Forget Shaq, who the hell can guard 2001 Kobe? Lakers in 5

real conclusion from fisch

Lakers washing those fools. Lol. The 17 Warriors were so great, they couldn’t even beat Spurs with Kawhi lol..