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DON'T GO INTO MEDICINE

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Dr. Cellini

Dr. Cellini

Күн бұрын

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@josiahambrose924
@josiahambrose924 2 жыл бұрын
I am a physician and have no regrets. So much of life comes down to, "do you find meaning in your suffering?". If you do, then your passion for your work will push you through anything.
@user-lx1gn7yk4k
@user-lx1gn7yk4k Жыл бұрын
🙏So true
@lesbianmustardbottle957
@lesbianmustardbottle957 Жыл бұрын
Are both of your parents married? Please answer this question.
@BeckiandChris
@BeckiandChris 2 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head with grass isn’t always greener… so many people who are unhappy don’t realize there’s a high chance they will be unhappy elsewhere. Not to use that as a scapegoat for changing toxic environments, but a lot of people generally are just unhappy.
@DrCellini
@DrCellini 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more
@guslaskaris5333
@guslaskaris5333 2 жыл бұрын
No...medicine is a ridiculous job full of waste, corruption, and perverse incentives that have not only turned American medicine into a dumpster fire but keep pouring gasoline on it. It's not all bad, of course, and it still temporarily pays reasonably well but the insanity and wasted time and resources baked into the system makes our bloated military appear well-run by comparison. You have to understand that the entire industry is driven almost exclusively for profit now and all other considerations are secondary. Thus, we have a complex matrix of mercenary corporations grasping for money both encouraging over-utilization and cutting as many services as they can who are concurrently at war with insurance companies and the government trying to pay as little as possible for medical care....nothing if they could. Physicians are caught in the middle as the unwilling foot soldiers in a bureaucratic cold war waged with EMRs and red tape. It is in everybody's interest, unfortunately, to not only pay you less but replace you with a cheaper, more compliant alternative. Personally? I'm getting to the end of my career. It will take a civilization-ending meteor or a bloody revolution to fix our system so I have little hope thing will improve. All most of us can do is carve out as secure a niche for ourselves as we can and enjoy the decline; there is some entertainment value in watching it all burn.
@okipo3443
@okipo3443 2 жыл бұрын
100% true
@anjulaneha
@anjulaneha 2 жыл бұрын
Well said Grass is distinctly greyer on the other side
@charlesdarwin5185
@charlesdarwin5185 2 жыл бұрын
Unhappiness is a sign of weakness. Do your job as a professional that you chose to be.
@ThePalacios101
@ThePalacios101 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I'm tired of people in my field discouraging me and other students to continue pursuing medicine. Honestly we all are burnt out, but I have to agree on your opinion. I'm going to keep on fighting and pursuing my interests! It is nice to hear someone being positive of the field. People, if you start feeding the idea of quitting because of what people tell you, it will happen all over again in another field!
@DrCellini
@DrCellini 2 жыл бұрын
Just have to do what ever makes you happy
@guslaskaris5333
@guslaskaris5333 2 жыл бұрын
As long as you know what you're getting into. To put it mildly, American medicine is a dysfunctional goat rodeo. There is almost nothing about it that is worth the stress, long hours, and general ridiculousness of the profession except the pay...and that is declining as private equity and the government seek cheaper alternatives. You might say the patients make it all worthwhile but, since only about twenty percent of your time will be spent on the actual practice of medicine and most of that is fairly routine, there are not a lot of moments where you will say, "This! This is why I went into medicine." Frankly, with the exception of a few specialties and individual physicians, most of our time is spent doing data entry and ass-covering in front of a computer or on countless redundant bureaucratic tasks. It's friggin' awesome! If I was interviewing for medical school today and the interviewer asked me why I wanted to go into medicine I'd say, "Because I really like sitting in front of computer and this job pays more than most other data entry jobs."
@ThePalacios101
@ThePalacios101 2 жыл бұрын
@@guslaskaris5333 try another profession. I get your point. I still work as a nurse in ER and finishing medical school. I would say that medicine involves a lot of sacrifice - but other profession also. That being said, many other professions are sooop boring, Dr. Cellini comes from a corporate job, and I bet that they are less dynamic, entertaining and fullfilling than medicine. Every other well paying job involves time and responsability, that is what I mean. Medicine is no different!
@guslaskaris5333
@guslaskaris5333 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePalacios101 I'm pushing 60. A little late for another profession. Medicine is my part-time job, anyway. I'm really employed as a data entry clerk. Occasionally I can get away from my computer to see a patient but this is strongly discouraged. Medicine is a dying profession. Your corporate overlords have, after testing the waters, decided that the skill and knowledge of a traditionally trained physician is an unnecessary expense and we are being replaced with cheaper alternatives. As for being a fulfilling career, I understand that. But there is some salary under which it will not be fulfilling.
@camarosaregay7943
@camarosaregay7943 2 жыл бұрын
@@guslaskaris5333 wdym it’s a dying field?
@ShowTheOreo
@ShowTheOreo 2 жыл бұрын
Went from "how to get into med school🤗" to "DON'T GO INTO MEDICINE" damn doc ya really reeled me in
@lauren8135
@lauren8135 2 жыл бұрын
As a nurse who’s parents are both MD’s they very much wanted me to go into healthcare and I’m currently trying to find a financially viable way to get out. It’s bad out here.
@guslaskaris5333
@guslaskaris5333 2 жыл бұрын
Especially for nurses.
@Tulips47223
@Tulips47223 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you live?
@s.p.baughman7885
@s.p.baughman7885 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed ..I am a Nurse myself and the work load is crazy ..Nurses are leaving because of burn out, work load..stress..
@lauren8135
@lauren8135 2 жыл бұрын
@@s.p.baughman7885 Yeah had another crap shift getting micromanaged and getting snide comments and threats to leave AMA, and just like ughhh people just suck. They suck and they want to use you and discard you. I’m just so f*ckin tired. I’m listening to a podcast and scrolling a career site.
@ptbro3334
@ptbro3334 2 жыл бұрын
Both of your parents are MDs yet you became a nurse! Why didn't you become an MD instead???
@nicks.8661
@nicks.8661 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 23 years old. I dabbled in nursing , surgical technology and finally decided to pursue medical school. I already have a bachelor's degree. I'm a current Anesthesia Tech and being a doctor aligns with what I really want to do (for MANY reasons). It will take hard work to get there, but it will be worth it after all. It's miserable being where I'm at now. To each their own everyone. If you discover medicine is what you want to go into, go for it! And statistics aren't definite (forever changing for reasons) and can be flawed considering the factors in the studies carried out. I know this from research in my biology degree. There are also factors in every study, if changed or added, will alter the value (desired or not) of the outcome. Take videos you watch with a grain of salt. Only you can decide what is best for you! If it takes trial and error... Such is life.
@michaelnikprelaj6679
@michaelnikprelaj6679 2 жыл бұрын
What made you sway away from nursing?
@nicks.8661
@nicks.8661 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnikprelaj6679 long story short... once I started my job at the hospital, it really showed me many roles the healthcare team plays. I personally want to have the most autonomy and be able to master a specialty I really enjoy. I tried to "take short cuts" I was once told. Trying to be the closest I can to a Dr. I was like .. I can do nursing, then DNP!, then perhaps even a CRNA (almost like an anesthesiologist). I finally decided to just go for it and I couldn't be more happy. I have always been iffy and back and forward but now I am excited to pursue medical school. I also spoke to a variety of doctors who also helped me make this decision and inspired me.
@brandonhouston6821
@brandonhouston6821 2 жыл бұрын
lol I am in the EXACT same situation. Same job, same background, same mindset.. but still not 100% sure about being a doc yet though. 😂
@nicks.8661
@nicks.8661 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonhouston6821 good luck to you! Whatever you decide, there is no wrong choice. Just living and learning... As long as we're being productive and persistent... If it's about cost and time... Just go for it and commit. Being a Dr will allow more financial relief and time wise .. would much rather go through a rigorous 4+ years of learning than being at a job I dislike my whole life and not being paid well. Especially if you know you're worth more... They don't care.
@MrLuffy9131
@MrLuffy9131 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicks.8661 Is it better because it's still like 4 years of school plus not sure how much years for residency. But it is never too late it's just residency pays little but you are more financial free I think unless it's an expensive med school that you have to pay debt
@fr.marklichtenstein8892
@fr.marklichtenstein8892 2 жыл бұрын
My dad being a physician almost kept me out of medicine. Having done a few other things first, nothing in this fallen world is perfect either.
@lesbianmustardbottle957
@lesbianmustardbottle957 Жыл бұрын
You would have made a garbage poet.
@msJmarcus1
@msJmarcus1 2 жыл бұрын
My father is in veterinary medicine, I am a medical social worker in addiction medicine. I have never felt more respect and admiration for people in medicine. I agree that the last two years people in medicine have been challenged in exceptional ways, but I have found people who have stayed in it have found ways to keep it fulfilling/worth it.
@DrCellini
@DrCellini 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more!
@mangosteen4230
@mangosteen4230 2 жыл бұрын
Being a medical student and getting yelled at in OB/Gyn during 80 hour weeks sucks balls. There were definitely a lot of extremely dark times in the past couple of years for many in my class, a few for me as well. All this said, practicing radiology daily would make it all worth it. Heck, even if radiology (actual practice or even residency) proves to be absolute trash, it'll still be amazing in comparison to the poverty, stress, and complete powerlessness of medical school.
@kevincoy6969
@kevincoy6969 2 жыл бұрын
The stress and powerlessness doesn't end in med school, it is simply the beginning. Stressors change and if you don't stop to think about the positives of each phase you will watch many years slip by. Right now you have zero liability or responsibility to patient care or the business of medicine. Sure you get yelled at but your only purpose is to learn which is a beautiful thing.
@MrSwk4679
@MrSwk4679 2 жыл бұрын
Y u doing 80 hrs in obgyn as med student is the real question
@rehsa2194
@rehsa2194 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I feel like residency is worse. In medical school, exams were still the end all be all, which felt like a bad thing at that time, but in hindsight, they were a consistent saving grace. You pass the shelf exams and USMLEs and no one can really disrupt your career progress. Not unless you're going after something super competitive. This is not the case after medical school. Plenty of people can make you're daily work a living hell, and now they have the power to have real influence on your career with just a few written or spoken words, and there's no exam or other objective metric alone that can bail you out. Depending on you're field, this can actually worsen again after residency, which this video eludes to. Now don't get me wrong, you learn the ropes, learn how things work, and learn who to avoid. Every job has this same problem really. It's not only what you do, but who you work with that makes or breaks your daily work experience.
@SK-mr6ov
@SK-mr6ov 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevincoy6969 he means his career buddy… obviously he knows residency
@atresearch
@atresearch 2 жыл бұрын
I am a physician's daughter, and while my father and I didn't talk much about career choices when I was in high school/college, and I thought back then that I would go into healthcare law, I ended up working in oncology clinical research and eventually left for industry. While I have a certain amount of guilt for leaving academia for industry, the salaries aren't even comparable, and then there are bonuses, promotions, etc. It's incredibly demoralizing that medicine became such a corporate, for-profit enterprise at the expense of healthcare workers.
@Janon743
@Janon743 2 жыл бұрын
For Industry? Could you elaborate?
@atresearch
@atresearch 2 жыл бұрын
@@Janon743 Pharma/biotech/CRO.
@senseofwonder4734
@senseofwonder4734 2 жыл бұрын
@@atresearch yes. And it is gross to work in a procedural area and see the rich drug and product reps marching through the hospital, pushing the doctors to use their expensive goods for a free lunch. Seriously gross.
@atresearch
@atresearch 2 жыл бұрын
@@senseofwonder4734 I completely agree with you, although most academic medical centers thankfully have conflict of interest policies in place that limit this now. Still gross, and just to be clear, I am trying to call out the inequity in pay between academic medical centers vs industry, when those who work at the former are working harder and longer.
@Superman32211
@Superman32211 2 жыл бұрын
The pay for people in the medical field has been stagnant over the least 2-3 decades, while the required education, college debt, and work hours demand has increased tremendously!
@lazarovazquez106
@lazarovazquez106 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in the medicine field for almost 35 years now and I have the same motivation and need to help others as the very first day I walk in a hospital! I’m a Cardiologist from Cuba and APRN in US. If one of my 3 kids in the future wanna follow my steps I’ll be very proud and supportive! Without hesitation if I born one more time I will love to be again a medical provider…
@lesbianmustardbottle957
@lesbianmustardbottle957 Жыл бұрын
You live in Cuba. Try doing the same thing in Wisconsin with your hands tied behind your back with Administrators poking you with cattle prods during your dissection. No disrespect intended.
@victoratta-dakwa3642
@victoratta-dakwa3642 2 жыл бұрын
My father is a physician, and he feels this exact way! However, I am still working on getting into medical school (I plan to pursue medicine at LECOM, I like osteopathic medicine). I believe the problem is that many individuals dont look at the reality of medicine, but the glamourization of it (however, with changing healthcare laws and policy, is medicine even glamourized anymore? However I think that its extremely ironic that a profession that champions health, is in fact unhealthy for those pursuing it
@XxAznChrizxX
@XxAznChrizxX 2 жыл бұрын
I’m attending LECOM Bradenton this year as a first year med student! Let me know if you have any questions!
@bayleer7116
@bayleer7116 2 жыл бұрын
@@XxAznChrizxX I am sitting on the WL for there! Since there has been no movement I took the A from another Florida school! lol
@catharsis-in-progress
@catharsis-in-progress 2 жыл бұрын
I know some folks at LECOM, it's a wonderful school from what I can tell. Beautiful campus. I haven't talked to them in depth about their experiences at the school however. (I hesitate to really endorse a medical school without more investigation after some things I've seen on the news about medical schools mistreating students so your mileage may vary)
@harveypraz7962
@harveypraz7962 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great school, but I would recommend a MD over a DO school as it can be easier to match into some specialities as an MD.
@bayleer7116
@bayleer7116 2 жыл бұрын
@@harveypraz7962 Depends on your goals. The DO school I am attending has an excellent match list/rate. However, I don't wanna be a neurosurgeon or dermatologist lol.
@sarahwilson5381
@sarahwilson5381 2 жыл бұрын
Same for mental health practitioners. There are often discussions about regretting going into the field as the rate of exploitation is high. I specifically use the term exploitation as opposed to burnout because it is the demands that lead to that, not just the actions of the practitioner. Best of luck to everyone in the medical field who finds themselves experiencing this.
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 2 жыл бұрын
Before I retired, I was an IT field tech for a large electric company. My unofficial job description was "We take computer age skills to the end of bronze age roads at any time in any weather." As demanding as the job was, his toughest previous job was in "behavioral health." Such a genteel term for a meatgrinder of a job.
@navymed3
@navymed3 2 жыл бұрын
Very valid points, but I think most people in any profession would tell you not to go into their profession because most people are pretty negative. You can always find something wrong with your job, body, partner, life… Or you can choose to focus on the positive things.
@BeneGesseritSaya
@BeneGesseritSaya 2 жыл бұрын
Do you work in healthcare? Of course every job sucks…but our jobs require us to be responsible for another human being. Actually MULTIPLE human beings at a time. Politely stfu 😂
@ebukaoba5959
@ebukaoba5959 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@stellawiltshire8007
@stellawiltshire8007 2 жыл бұрын
I was a x-ray and ultrasound tech, I'm a baby boomer...my son chose medicine even though I tried very hard to discourage him...main reason was the development of HMOs and PPOs and the massive government involvement in medicine. I'm old enough to remember what medicine was like when your physician was ultimately responsible for your medical care, not a 3rd party provider, not the federal government. In the late 70s we started hearing terms like FTEs and the focus of medical care shifted from patient centered to money centered...all of a sudden we were being told for certain procedures we were only allow X number of minutes, regardless of the patients age or health. A job that was already demanding became even more stressful... physicians were no longer in control of their patients care. Patients were being told sorry your insurance won't pay for that medicine or that procedure. That is why I tried to keep my son out...why should he spend 8-10 years of his life training to do a profession, when he could go into engineering and in 4 years graduate and go into a job earning 6 figures and not have to put up with the frustration today's Drs experience...for those who choose to pursue this thankless profession I say, God Bless You and Thank you.
@hugos4355
@hugos4355 2 жыл бұрын
I question my decision every day since year 2 of medical school. Don't know how much longer I can do this. Overworked, undermined, underpaid, undervalued, underappreciated. Knowing what I know now. I 100% would not choose healthcare.
@vivek27789
@vivek27789 2 жыл бұрын
@@hugos4355 But honestly what industrial or service sector doesn't have the negatives associated with it which u have named?...All the corporate profit issues destroying healthcare sector are same in other fields too. Being overworked,underpaid and underappreciated is almost the norm for every job description nowadays. I think the issues and problems are more societal than specific job type and sector based.
@hugos4355
@hugos4355 2 жыл бұрын
@@vivek27789 I can only speak from my personal experience. Before I entered medicine, I worked as a portrait/wedding photographer for 10 years and during that time I also did research in marine embryology and genomics, I served 3 years in the army, I worked 3 years in the restaurant as a sous chef, I was a volvo mechanic at my dad's auto body shop for 5 years, and I also worked in other industries like tourism and things. I always liked working with people and providing some sort of service. I grew more interested in medicine over the years and thought it would be the ultimate way I could serve others. And then I went into medicine because I feel it is my calling. I have not felt more undervalued in my life since I have entered healthcare, and the pandemic has really been eye opening. I'm also speaking for my staffs here doctors and nondoctors who work so hard here to keep sick people alive and trying our best to give people years of their lives back. In my personal experience, the amount of underappreciation and how undervalued my and my team feels is not even comparable to what I have experienced working in other fields. Imagine committing +12 years of your life studying your ass off, losing friends, missing out on the chance of having a personal life, missing out important dates of your childrens' lives, missing deaths and births of family members, losing sleep, giving up your hobby, because you committed to bettering the lives of others. And then all of a sudden, you become "incompetent" and your entire career is called "useless" by patients whose interests do not align with yours. And then all of a sudden the "disease" you're trying to treat is "not real." I'm not just talking about covid here. You have people who spend a few hours reading articles online and challenging your knowledge and insist that they know better than you. Or people with PhDs come in and saying that they're the "real doctors" here. Parents telling you that the vaccines you give their kids doesn't do anything. Patients and their family members screaming at you or hitting you because you "killed" their sons/daughters. When all you did was tried your best and always acted in the best interest of your patients. I agree with you that there are plenty of careers out there that shares the same negatives. But there are only a few other careers out there in my opinion that requires as much commitment as medicine does. What I've learnt from all these years is that people only see the fruit and not the labor. They'll blame doctors for everything that goes wrong regardless of the truth.
@Jess-cw9gi
@Jess-cw9gi 2 жыл бұрын
What about sonography though? Would you say it's a pretty good gig?
@stellawiltshire8007
@stellawiltshire8007 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jess-cw9gi It depends on what you mean by a "good gig". As a registered diagnostic medical sonographer, your compensation is less than an RN but better than a 15.00 an hour living wage. Your schedule will vary depending on the kind of facility you work in...clinics tend to be more Monday thru Friday jobs and usually less pay. Not just anyone is suited to sonography, you need to be able to look at a one demensional image and think in 3 D...as a sonographer you will need to be able to acquire images that accurately depict what you are seeing... because the radiologist will only see what you give him/her and sometimes it's hard to image what you see in realtime. I switched to sonography because it's not as physically demanding as xray of course since a lot of your movements are repetitive, especially your right arm, you are subject to repetitive stress injuries. If you want to pursue a career in healthcare it helps to have the desire to help people.. If you're lucky you'll get in with a good team of people who all care about what they are doing...then it will be rewarding.
@shanemckenzie8681
@shanemckenzie8681 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 50 yr old and trying to get into nursing school school. I’m not giving up. And am doin fine! No one is going to stop me from being a nurse. ☯️
@winnersnetwork421
@winnersnetwork421 2 жыл бұрын
Go gal, fulfill your desires and be happy.
@kerripendragon4888
@kerripendragon4888 2 жыл бұрын
You will stop yourself when you get a hit of the nurse to patient ratio, the documentation, the laws, the burnout and all the protocols ...with covid making protocols harder.
@dannyschaefer9434
@dannyschaefer9434 Жыл бұрын
Good for you welcome to suffering. Tell what you think 5 years from now
@dannyschaefer9434
@dannyschaefer9434 Жыл бұрын
I did bed side for 30 years I developed gastrointestinal cancer almost died
@emiliomartineziii2980
@emiliomartineziii2980 Жыл бұрын
Your amiazing!
@BigAkwes
@BigAkwes 2 жыл бұрын
4th year medical student and I already know I don’t want my kids in medicine.
@DrCellini
@DrCellini 2 жыл бұрын
lol. That didn't take long
@josechacon6015
@josechacon6015 2 жыл бұрын
I remember talking to my dad the reasons to go to military and law enforcement. He said “ there are many reasons but if you classified it into two groups, they are there either the right or wrong reasons” I had many told me that I shouldn’t enter medicine because I didn’t have the capacity or capabilities to do it, since I was in special education. Today, I am a 4th year medical student preparing to apply for the next year match and as I entered medicine not only to be a surgeon, but as a missionary doctor For those still desire medicine, seek it and never allow anyone to change your mind because the best things always meet with resistance and criticism. Hold on the faith and fire for your determination will sustain it.
@medicostudy101
@medicostudy101 2 жыл бұрын
This hits home. The best thing always meets with criticism. That'll stay with me
@divinegangsta3692
@divinegangsta3692 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so very proud of you Doc! You're way bigger than any obstacle you have or will encounter in this life. You give me hope!
@youngjacuzzi3676
@youngjacuzzi3676 2 жыл бұрын
What’s that student loan looking like lol.
@josechacon6015
@josechacon6015 2 жыл бұрын
@@youngjacuzzi3676 I am debt free lol
@Maxumized
@Maxumized 2 жыл бұрын
@@youngjacuzzi3676 you are the reason he succeeded…he has overcome toxic people like you always looking at the glass half empty because of their own fears and insecurities. Congratulations on being repulsive and helping individuals move on from you.
@jakec5618
@jakec5618 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also in healthcare and I feel it has the potential to be a an extremely rewarding and fulfilling career. I have no regrets with my decision to enter the field. However, healthcare is becoming more corporatized and business oriented. Unfortunately, this is coming at the expense of quality patient care and burnout for providers. The bottom line takes precedence over patients and healthcare professionals. Many are overworked, squeezed to the last drops, this ultimately affects quality of care and job satisfaction. Perhaps, healthcare just needs some reform. Agreed with grass isn't always greener on other side.
@kathleenconnolly9021
@kathleenconnolly9021 2 жыл бұрын
If you want abuse and being blamed for everything, then medicine is for you. It is not rewarding. I discouraged her from going into the medical field. I have been in the field for 25 years, she has seen the wear and tear it has taken on my psyche, emotional and physical well-being. I just got out, probably 20 years too late. I wanted to help people and kept thinking if I stuck with it, I could make a difference. I made no difference I only became the dog everybody would kick.
@guslaskaris5333
@guslaskaris5333 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. Every now and then I think I do some good and I think I'm a good doctor...but for the most part we've become disposable parts of the creaking, smoking, health care machine. I do my best and by manner and character try to act like a physician instead of a robotic provider but nobody cares. Our corrupt government-corporate complex is increasingly selling the public the illusion of good medical care because it's cheaper than actual good medical care. I'm stuck in it and I make the best of things but I can't see how the system won't continue to deteriorate.
@kathleenconnolly9021
@kathleenconnolly9021 2 жыл бұрын
@@guslaskaris5333 thank you for your validation. The emotional advice we usually get is just be like a duck and let it roll off of you. Just take a big breath! Or It’s not personal, it is personal. Those are not coping mechanisms.
@GLamoRousCooKie
@GLamoRousCooKie 2 жыл бұрын
This is so sad. I'm from Europe, from a country with horrible healthcare system (Mainly for those who are employed by it), and I'm just about to graduate with my MD. My heart wants to work in clinical medicine but my head says no. I've seen a lot of stuff during my rotations. I'm a sensitive person and I have other hobbies as well. I don't want this to consume my entire life. It's important to be honest, like you are. People, especially future med students need to hear it. They need to hear both sides. And a lot of doctors here feel the same way you do. I applaud you for working in such conditions for 25 years.
@squeakypistonproductions2228
@squeakypistonproductions2228 2 жыл бұрын
This is the paradox of agreeableness. You just wanted to help people but instead you end up pushing pills for large corporations while the public gets sicker year after year. While I sympathize with you about how you were treated you werent exactly faultless for your ignorance.
@kindasoupie
@kindasoupie 2 жыл бұрын
@@squeakypistonproductions2228 lmao shut up. as a physician, she likely made a positive difference in thousands of people's lives. I know that out of the few times I've had to go to the doctor, I've felt nothing but reverence and assurance that I was gonna be okay in the hands of these highly trained individuals. What do you do for a living?
@LJStability
@LJStability 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome way to end the video. I remember having a PhD try to discourage me from doing an MD-PhD program because you ultimately quote, "Couldn't fix everything". I'm very glad I never listened to that advice. In fact, after finishing my PhD, I'm more glad I continued my MD training. After finishing my PhD, I realized how fortunate I was to have another avenue for personal and financial growth beyond what most PhDs experience. It gave me perspective that medicine can be rough but there are way worse things to deal with. In a twist of irony, doing three extra years for my PhD made me see the journey differently. Rather than saying, "Gawd, I want to be finished already", I focus more on improving my craft and trying to make the best of the opportunities in front of me. A lot of my patients taught me that being in medicine is a privilege; what I see in their struggles makes my own complaints seem easier to deal with in the grand scheme of things. Ultimately, I think if you focus on what makes you happy and stick to what gives you fulfillment in medicine, you'll overcome a lot of the struggles. But I will say, a large part of the problem for medical school boils down to sticking to traditional ways of doing education for the sake of tradition. Like you mentioned about the Match, there's a lot of stuff where you end up scratching your head in confusion. On the other hand, there's two much of a "Catch 22" scenarios we have to deal with. We have to study for the boards, which don't often focus on practical knowledge, while having to adjust what we learn for the clinic at the same time and also for specific attendings. Having these scenarios repeat brings more frustration and burnout because there really isn't a good reason for it. It's years of miscommunication, laziness, and unwillingness to address the problem that compounds the problem. I final thought is that a lot of whether you do medicine again depends on your personality, goals, the specialty you chose, and the team you work with. You can have two people go through the same specialty but if the attendings or residents absolutely blow, it doesn't matter how much you intellectually like the field.
@BarelySaneGenius
@BarelySaneGenius 2 жыл бұрын
Being a doctor is 100% a calling. If you're not called, don't put yourself through that torture..
@lilyjezebel7444
@lilyjezebel7444 2 жыл бұрын
U nailed it!!! Do it for the right reasons. It mind boggles me the younger generation wanting to enter the field to do fillers /botox and plastic surgery. Like you do not go through that torture for anything but a calling! Then I see families pushing kids to go into medicine, and the same kids just wanting to do it for the wrong reasons respect money and prestige. Wrong reasons! The torture is only worth it if you really don't mind not making money u deserved until you pay off ur 5k a month, and worth it if u don't mind always being stress and uneasy at work medicine is not for everyone! U have to love it so much that u sacrifice your life for it and marry it.
@charlesdarwin5185
@charlesdarwin5185 2 жыл бұрын
No, it is a profession. Priesthood is a calling
@BarelySaneGenius
@BarelySaneGenius 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesdarwin5185 are you a licensed medical doctor?
@charlesdarwin5185
@charlesdarwin5185 2 жыл бұрын
@@BarelySaneGenius look at the picture
@charlesdarwin5185
@charlesdarwin5185 2 жыл бұрын
If it is calling, join the priesthood where your God calls you.
@emilyencapsulated9540
@emilyencapsulated9540 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion! My mentor, a lovely female internist, told me she regretted going into medicine, but she was supportive of me when I decided to become an NP. I went into it knowing "the dark side" AND making plans so I that I could ensure sustainability & happiness. I think that's key--you need to consciously create systems / lifestyle that will support the work you do. A big part of that is working towards financial independence so you can leave poor working conditions and demand more for yourself. I also think it's wise to have an "escape route"--what will you do if you get burned out? Think about career pivots you might make down the road, flexible PRN work, side hustles, etc.
@DrCellini
@DrCellini 2 жыл бұрын
Love this
@DreamCatcher201
@DreamCatcher201 2 жыл бұрын
This is really good. Could you give some examples of the systems that you have created? ❤️
@emilyencapsulated9540
@emilyencapsulated9540 2 жыл бұрын
@@DreamCatcher201 Great question! (1) I manage my time with calendar blocking and set boundaries (for example, don't take work home - finish charting at clinic with efficient dot phrases, etc.). (2) Scheduling renewal periods (exercise, hiking, friends/fam time). (3) Approach work with a healthy mindset (e.g. focus on what you CAN control, recognize that you can only do your best within the limitations of a flawed healthcare system, etc.) (4) Cut out trash-humans and surround yourself with positive people. I've thought about starting a channel and making videos about this, so this question might be the push I need! :)
@DreamCatcher201
@DreamCatcher201 2 жыл бұрын
@@emilyencapsulated9540 haha glad I could help! I've been looking for this type of content with measurable info. For example, I do my hobby 2x week, for a total of 4 hours. That gives me social time too. I have dinner once a week with my friends. So per week I have 6 hours of socializing time. For me, it's not enough and I definitely need more. How much time per week do you schedule for the renewal periods? :)
@starlight200816
@starlight200816 2 жыл бұрын
I did other things before med school and honestly just do what you like. I know how it feels to work a job I hate and have no interest in. Any job has its pros and cons honestly.
@barrywertz6274
@barrywertz6274 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect reverse Psychology. Medicine at its core is great. My complaint is that the debt/cost is way to high for a public service job.
@briancarter6966
@briancarter6966 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely yes I would recommend going into medicine for my children. But it does come down to their desires and abilities. I have three children, only one went into medicine. My wife also went into medicine because of my experience and is thriving. Covid and all. For me it was a calling. Challenges, you bet. Fulfilling, you bet. My family has been in medicine in one form or another for three generations. It's not for most people. For me and mine....Absolutely yes.
@Dblue-rhino
@Dblue-rhino 2 жыл бұрын
They make it more difficult than it needs to be. Stretch medschool to 6yrs after 2 yrs of college. Do not overwork. Share a practice. Take 12 weeks vacation. As a radiologist, I do, and am quite content. I went to medical school in Spain, had no problems with any exams after coming back, had a blast in medical school, made a very good living, and currently score 36% above average on the maintenance of certification questions. I work full time in my 70’s, and can still work part time should I desire when I get old. Had a friend who worked into his 90’s. Retire and do what? Get a hobby? I have one and I get paid. Where else can you do that? Daughter has a BS/MD. and a parent who can cover the costs. Without that, I think it would be too strenuous, expensive, and time consuming and may not be worthwhile. Would have to evaluate. Females would need to consider fertility issues including age and stress. So make sure your circumstances fit before you dive in. If it fits, it is very worthwhile.
@DetectiveMcGarnacle
@DetectiveMcGarnacle 2 жыл бұрын
I used to bartend. There was an event once with a bunch of MDs. Common theme from a lot of them: “I wouldn’t become a doctor today. It’s not what it used to be and is getting worse every year.” This was in 2005.
@andreaslind6338
@andreaslind6338 2 жыл бұрын
Why did they say it was getting worse?
@andygarcia4412
@andygarcia4412 2 жыл бұрын
I am a cancer survivor, and went through a Bone Marrow Transplant for Leukemia. Ultimately, I am now essentially cancer free and in remission. My BMT is the reason I decided I wanted to work in healthcare. What’s more interesting is that I now work in the very same department I received my BMT in, and I see familiar faces on the daily. I also finish college in December and getting my degree in Healthcare Administration. I have started to feel the pressure in medicine and I do not want my health to pay the price for me obtaining my goals. The idea is to find ways to “cope” and handle the stress of medicine outside of medicine. Hobbies, social support, anything that helps drift your mind and body away from medicine.
@SaSpursFan
@SaSpursFan 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is your often over worked to the point where you don’t have time to pursue hobbies.
@monicaperez2843
@monicaperez2843 2 жыл бұрын
Wanted to be a schoolteacher and everybody was telling me right and left they were laying off teachers. My English teacher said if it's your calling, G_D would make a way. She told me when she was in college, she held fast that it was her calling. Turned out that nobody in her class got a job in teaching, except for her. Wish I had listened to her. The upshot of all this, is if a particular field is your calling, trust in that, and G_D will make a way!
@rockbe02
@rockbe02 2 жыл бұрын
I know it isn't as tough as becoming or being a physician but I am planning on applying to PA school this summer. It is a major career change for me (currently an engineer), so the stress getting close to applying is building up and I have been seeing more and more negative videos lately regarding working in healthcare. It has been pretty discouraging. I appreciate seeing this video as it does give some perspective. I try to think back to my time as a PRN PCT while still working as an engineer and taking classes. There were crappy days and were times when it was frustrating or I was treated crappy but overall I was more proud of the work I did there than I have ever felt in engineering. Perhaps it was just thinking the grass was greener and I didn't rely on it to pay the bills. I didn't work full time either. The good interactions with co workers and patients outweighed the bad for me for the most part. I know healthcare is business and profit is a huge motivator but it is anywhere in engineering when you do well it seems like you can only boast about how much more money you made the company. Not anybody that you helped or any good relationships you developed while they were trying to put you through the meat grinder. Who knows. I would have to get accepted into a school and the interview process might help me decide if I am ready for it. I haven't been able to fake caring about any other engineering jobs I have applied to so I know I don't care about engineering anymore.
@Helder-
@Helder- 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Always appreciated your take on the “lifestyle” part of medicine. Thst needs to be taken into consideration.
@DrCellini
@DrCellini 2 жыл бұрын
100%. Thanks!
@myutube4realz
@myutube4realz 9 ай бұрын
It's mind-blowing they're still applying to med school. In the age of information, you'd think young people would figure out the truth: Miserable job, miserable pay, miserable work conditions, and it's only getting worse.
@TyHudson42
@TyHudson42 2 жыл бұрын
Going into Medicine is a noble call. I’m a Registered Nurse. First licensed in 1993. I’m also completely burned out. Left Medicine 5 years ago. If my Daughter told me she wanted to go into Medicine, I’d be supportive. I’d also share c her the pitfalls and mistakes I made. A career in Healthcare is a solid career choice🖖😎
@lesbianmustardbottle957
@lesbianmustardbottle957 Жыл бұрын
Healthcare does not equal a career. It is garbage. You got in when the getting was good. You missed Covid. Tell your daughter to sell pictures of her feet on the internet.
@shaydelre1898
@shaydelre1898 2 жыл бұрын
My mom is an RN and she always wanted me to become a nurse. When I see what nurses go through daily, I don't understand how my mom thought that would be good for me? But this is all very eye opening, now that I'm actually in clinicals....
@CelticsFan33533
@CelticsFan33533 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t care what anyone says. I am going into medicine.
@benverweywiese4504
@benverweywiese4504 2 жыл бұрын
Love this, same.
@boozscha99
@boozscha99 2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to med school this fall. Parents (MDs) did not want me pursuing medicine initially, but are very happy I am now. Lesser reimbursement, increased burnout, corporatization of medicine are all factors they were concerned about.
@Fahadnaqash
@Fahadnaqash 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This video means a lot to me as a family medicine practitioner I’ve been wanting to quit and pursue other interests but I’ve been pulled back in due to my family and friends who keep telling me people wish to be doctors!! I mean yeah I did too but I am burnt out!!! 😂
@kathleencolwell8947
@kathleencolwell8947 2 жыл бұрын
I have been an RN for thirty plus years. I loved studying anything connected with the cardiovascular system. I worked in telemetry for a year, transferred to CVICU for nine years. Worked in OR (Heart Team) and transferred to the Cardiac Cath Lab with the advent of coronary stenting when I was spending a lot of time with my CV surgeons doing fewer hearts and more carotids, peripheral vascular, and (ew) lung surgery. My beautiful, smart daughter wanted to be a nurse. She spent a lot of time with the ever changing requirements for “pre requisites” and, much to my relief, she gave up. She now has a great job in IT. She really enjoys her work, she is good at it, and she makes more money than her friends who work as nurse. I am so happy. I do try to discourage young people from going into nursing. It’s really not a great option at this time.😢
@paulbrungardt9823
@paulbrungardt9823 2 жыл бұрын
I practiced optometry for 30 years in a Los Angeles medical center. None of my 3 kids followed me into health care. Patients have become demanding, entitled and adapting the " I am a victim" mentality.
@MrLuffy9131
@MrLuffy9131 2 жыл бұрын
Is optometry still good? or is it also saturated. I can see patients becoming like that and especially when dealing with families because I have a family member who is a nurse and we had horror stories
@paulbrungardt9823
@paulbrungardt9823 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrLuffy9131 Optometry is over saturated. Optometrists are under compensated. A nurse practitioner is allowed to do more procedures, get more compensation with only 4 years education. Optometrists have 8 years education, and under compensated. Patients have become, demanding, rude and ungrateful.
@consecrated4u
@consecrated4u Жыл бұрын
I really like this question, or me viewing this video when it has been a horrible week. I have been a Nurse since 1980. It was awesome then, I learned so much, did a lot, and the training from the physicians then was absolutely awesome. I have worked in some of the larger hospitals, and once again the teaching, the experience, the trauma rush was educational, fulfilling when the person lived, upsetting when you could not save them, but you did all you could, but the genuine teaching from the Doc's and other team members was awesome. Can I say that now??? Not really! I am dealing with the knowledge that I have, past and present, and having someone over me that keeps questioning everything I do, and trying to one up me when it comes to patient care. This person even said I had a medication error when it came to giving a teen a vaccine that can be given, without harm to the patient of whom her history, and lifestyle left me thinking, "No absolute proof this vac was given, and with the current lifestyle and her issues, I should give it." Long story short I was viewing the incorrect vaccine!! I have NEVER EVER DONE THAT BEFORE!!! So since put on this can't give medication thing, my coworkers are like....really! I was even told that the vaccine I gave you can give, and there is not an issue! I even did my research and that person was correct. Well I did my own research, and it came out that the vaccine that was given, the person could have a 4th dose, and it not be an issue!! This situation after over 40 years of Nursing, even have obtained training from some of the top hospitals up North, left me with the feeling of it's time to retire! After I take one more test, and prayerfully I pass it, I will do my dream assignment to help those who really can't get around to get help on their own. ----Thanks for listening, this really empowered me to take the next step in ending my current career, and being my own boss for a little bit!
@kaizenproductions00
@kaizenproductions00 2 жыл бұрын
Good informative video. I'm personally split between pursing a DPT (Doctor of Physical Therapy) or a MD degree. I'm fairly sporty and enjoy exercise, and I think using exercise to help people would be an exciting career. On the other hand, there's definitely some non-surgical specialties that are interesting to me (also let's face it, the pay is better). That being said, the training to become an MD is way more stressful and lengthy (and worse when it comes to debt) compared to becoming a DPT. Life is hard...
@purplesapphire3542
@purplesapphire3542 2 жыл бұрын
Education is like that, too. My parents were both teachers and told my brother and sister and me not to go into education. Some of the arguably most important professions (saving lives and educating children) are facing crises in attracting and retaining people.
@Kwippy
@Kwippy 2 жыл бұрын
I have been practicing pediatrics for 30++ years and while I have had ups and downs same as everyone, overall it has been, and continue to be, a good life. Steady adequate income, likeable patients, meaningful work, and a workload that's balanced. So I should be urging people to enter the profession, but I don't. I tell them about all the negative things, the burn-outs, the suicides, the lawsuits. Medicine is a vocation. If you are meant to be a doctor, you will be, regardless of what people tell you. And to those few young people who demonstrate complete determination to do medicine, I will tell them that it is entirely possible to live an entirely fulfilling life as a doctor
@vivek27789
@vivek27789 2 жыл бұрын
True.. Very True
@katm7465
@katm7465 2 жыл бұрын
pharmD here, dad is an MD. My dad did not want me to go to medical school and recommended pharmacy instead since its "all the fun parts of medicine without all the bullshit". Nope, he was wrong. Pharmacy like any field in medicine is stressful and honestly, I wish I just didn't listen and just went to medical school instead for the amount of effort and time I had to put into being a clinical pharmacist (4 years undergrad, 4 years pharm school, 2 years residency).
@ptbro3334
@ptbro3334 2 жыл бұрын
Wdym 4 years pharm school? All the pharmD I know of did 4 years undergrad and 2 years for the pharmD
@fluffy-bunny3560
@fluffy-bunny3560 2 жыл бұрын
@@ptbro3334 It’s usually the opposite here, pharmacy is a 4 year school, but you can do a 6 year program (2 pre pharm and 4 pharmacy years P1-P4). Some people get their bachelors and then go to pharmacy school (so they have a total of 8 years). Depends on where you live I guess
@katk1958
@katk1958 2 жыл бұрын
We *desperately* need people of integrity, who feel "called" to the medical profession. We end up with mediocre, at best, providers, when people go into the medical field because their parents *wanted* them to, or if they go into medicine in hopes of making a lot of money. This is really no different than any other career choice.
@SellyNue
@SellyNue 2 жыл бұрын
YES!
@charlesdarwin5185
@charlesdarwin5185 2 жыл бұрын
Being called to the medical profession requires a personal investment of over $500,000 in the USA. For that we need to be rewarded.
@SellyNue
@SellyNue 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesdarwin5185 I think that is acceptable, as long as your heart and soul is in it for your patients and for their best interests and quality of life! Vs. people like a doctor my mom worked for that said, when my mom asked why she went into medicine- that: "Well, I could have gone and worked for Ford on their assembly line (ALSO good money, pension, setc.), or I could become a doctor...". It was merely that she chose medicine. Personality wise, she would have been better suited for Ford than for medicine. There was more than one reason that she wasn't my pcp.
@charlesdarwin5185
@charlesdarwin5185 2 жыл бұрын
@@SellyNue heart and soul is useless to the patient. It is proficiency that matters most.
@SellyNue
@SellyNue 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesdarwin5185 I Disagree. Proficiency isn't what matters most. If you have heart and soul, Proficiency will come with it, but its not the other way around. Ive had many doctors that were so focused of the clock that they weren't even listening to me. They were entirely *INEFFICIENT* because of their "rush". I believe I know where you're getting this idea, but its simply not good patient care! I used to work for a doctor who had the nickname "Zip-in Zip-out". There was more than one reason she wasn't my doctor. That is not proficiency, efficiency, or you know know it- its not *effective* treatment.
@mustafeliiban2991
@mustafeliiban2991 2 жыл бұрын
The regretting the joining medicine have been became part of the life last decade And the covid-19 pandemic was tough that showed the healthcare professionals the hardest reality in world. I wish this noble profession that important to the human life remains it's position and the healthcare community get justice to their right.
@bobtheminion188
@bobtheminion188 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of people are told at a young age medicine has money in it. Maybe that’s why people are still interested in it. Especially since COVID just hit, and kids see an opportunity to create change. Why millennials least recommend healthcare could also be because they’ve had the hardest time financially when becoming an adult. Millennials are buying houses at an older age, starting families at an older age, having to pay off inflated student debt. Some even went through two economic recessions (in 2008 and now). Not to mention pay has decreased. While going into healthcare shouldn’t be all about the money, a lot of it is. And when you realize the money you thought you would have isn’t as much, or not enough, you probably want to teach your kids not to make the same mistakes. Plus why spend all the time and effort to be in school when there are other jobs that take less schooling, less studying, and less grinding but pay just as much. IT has wages that contest with wages of PAs, PTs and probably several other healthcare jobs. And all it takes is a bachelors degree. I would teach my kid to follow their passion, but also do the research on the job growth, pay, and opinions of professionals in that profession.
@JJMomoida
@JJMomoida 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be starting as an intern at a Family Medicine residency program in a few months and looking back, it has been a crazy journey. Although there have been some pretty rough times, I really do not regret choosing this path. I am both excited and to be honest, a bit nervous, with regards to the prospect of actually having patients under my care, but this will just be another hill to surmount. When it comes to whether or not I'd recommend this career to my children... Well, it's definitely something to think about. Everyone's different. Personalities, goals, etc... Certainly, I would take this on a case-by-case basis haha. Feels like at the end of the day, I can only relay my experiences and hope this can ultimately lead them to choose what's best for them.
@eduardocod8924
@eduardocod8924 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine going to school for 14 years to be unhappy🥺🥺 damm.
@fallenfairyfaye
@fallenfairyfaye 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the difference is monetary. Tuitions have gone up in leaps and bounds over these generational periods and the debt load is getting harder to overcome to finish with your education. I didn't see this one discussed and I wondered why. I went into pre-vet and couldn't afford to finish with one semester remaining. The tuition was also hard to keep up with while in school before I ran out of federal aid. We don't all have parents with money and good credit to get us through our bachelor. Once you get there the financial aid opens up, but undergrad and even nursing school can come with some financial hurdles that make it harder for those with lesser means to finish. Then if the jobs pay less and less to overcome that debt load it makes it much harder to have a work life balance once it's over.
@dude6077
@dude6077 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reality of Medicine is a lot different from what people expect. I was encouraged by a boomer like you describe, but in hindsight the journey is a lot more difficult now days. I'll meet my goal of being a gastroenterologist in the end, but ill be moving across the country to do so, which I imagine a lot of people wouldn't want to do. I would aim that question to people like you, if you had to live somewhere you didn't want to for 4 years of your training, would it still be worth it as much as you describe? When your career interferes with your personal life so much idk if you can say the same.
@0401412740
@0401412740 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't want anyone to join medicine because he wants to charge patients $10,000 for a 15 minute consult. This guy has no morals
@davidfl4
@davidfl4 2 жыл бұрын
Our healthcare system is such a monstrosity. As a patient I have to suffer with this almost everyday, a milieu of different parts, a thousand insurance companies, no standard coverage, extremely long wait times, receptionists don’t answer the phones which is extremely stressful when you’re trying to resolve a health condition. If getting care is so stressful I cannot imagine what it would be like to deliver that care, my heart goes out to all those in the medical profession.
@MexicanHobbit
@MexicanHobbit 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised that you didn’t mention one HUGE factor in the generational divide: The massive increase in student loan debt!! Undergrad AND med school are all soooooo much more expensive now than they once were. Meanwhile there are many other fields that pay as well or better over a lifetime with less debt and less stress.
@user-ye3ds5jn6g
@user-ye3ds5jn6g 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! My previous much older boss GOT paid to go to med school. Bought his house for about 120 k and the office building for about 150k like 30 years ago. His house is now worth like 2 million and so is the office building now worth like 1 mil. So he came out of Med school with no debt AND can just sell his house or office for funding his retirement.
@ClearlyPixelated
@ClearlyPixelated 2 жыл бұрын
My physician dad advised me to not go to med school but the PA route. Being a PA is great, but I get why we would suggest it the least.
@jameso8711
@jameso8711 Жыл бұрын
Why would you not suggest it? Curious
@bh-sh5sx
@bh-sh5sx 2 жыл бұрын
First decline was due to beginnings of hmos. Second decline was due to the affordable care act.
@jeanlanz2344
@jeanlanz2344 2 жыл бұрын
How about the average $200,000 debt that med school graduates have? Increasing educational requirements for CRNAs (Masters to doctorate as of 2022), NP (Masters to doctorate as of 2025)? $90,000 average debt for PAs? How about dealing with for-profit health insurance? How about hassles of getting paid properly by for-profit health insurance companies? How about 80 hour work weeks for residents and some medical specialties? Doctors back in the day were more likely to be self-employed or in partnership, not employees of large healthcare corporations who threaten them with firing if they don't take experimental vaccines?
@seshadrideepak
@seshadrideepak 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct Dr. There are many conflict across the world in recognition of medical qualification . Because of conflict , it takes more time to settle . Especially with medical field . (Conflict includes lengthy process of medical licensure examination, corruption in certain countries that may delay the process , declaration of mcqs licensure results that takes more than a month. ). Every country has a different conflict especially with medical field . Info tech software professional and other field earn and settles faster . I won't suggest any one to choose medical field unless they change the pattern of examination and relaxation .
@lookatcha
@lookatcha 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a dr in the uk and I would NEVER EVER let my child go into medicine !
@GracedVille
@GracedVille 2 жыл бұрын
Why? I'm just curious as to the challenges you face.
@lookatcha
@lookatcha 2 жыл бұрын
@@GracedVille Long hours, youth spent studying, lack of respect from colleagues ( in the uk at least), money isn't great, high burn out rates, the million loopholes and red tape we have to go through, the huge risk we take, one human error, and you are in court defending yourself,, very hard to pursue anything outside of medicine due to the lack of time and exhaustion,..... as I entered my 30s, I've come to realise there is much more to life then the walls of a hospital... looking back, it just wasn't worth it...
@GracedVille
@GracedVille 2 жыл бұрын
@@lookatcha Awww, I empathize. Thanks for responding.
@SellyNue
@SellyNue 2 жыл бұрын
I think loss of autonomy and the over-corporatizing side of things is a big draw back that a little older doctors are feeling, and know will only get worse, and don't wish for their kids. Especially now that we are seeing nurses being criminally charged for med errors, etc. Errors are inevitable, humans aren't infallible! But to *criminally charge them is...a step too far. And it is a deterrent, for sure!
@robinyoon8824
@robinyoon8824 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re saying there’s increased interest in the field of medicine among younger generation because there’s increased number of med school applicants in the years 2021-22, I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Many applicants during that time frame decided or forced to take one more gap years because of the pandemic. (Ie: many MCAT test dates had to be postponed, leaving applicants no option but to take a gap year.) so yes-there has been increased number of applicants past couple of years, but the interest in medicine has always been the same (one might argue lower). There was never a “Fauci effect”.
@sunriselotus
@sunriselotus 5 ай бұрын
Dr. Cellini, I think it’s you being in a nice field in medicine and having great work life balance and it’s why you are saying this. I’ve been through medicine and I don’t think anyone would do it if they don’t come from a well off and stable back ground. I think the being going into medicine should know them selves well before going into medicine even so I believe the field is too toxic and because a certain people go into the field it just continues the toxicity.
@freethinkeralways
@freethinkeralways 2 жыл бұрын
My kids didn't want to go to medicine just seeing my lifestyle & stress level compared to their father (in IT) lifestyle & stress level in the same household over the years. Kids are not stupid!
@Dliciousization
@Dliciousization 2 жыл бұрын
I think for a lot of us in the new wave of doctors, it's not that the things that make the career undesirable aren't visible. If anything, they're incredibly apparent, especially after the pandemic. But there is an element of wanting to be a part of how medicine can change for the better. In the past, medicine was much more white cishet male centric, and women/poc/queer people have suffered for it. But with a growing diversity in the field, we're learning more and more about how to provide better care to a wider variety of people. That's pretty cool. A lot of us will end up instating new healthcare policies as we get more experienced and earn seniority in the future. There is an element of having to be the change you want to see in the world, and being at the front lines of medical advancement can have a real impact on the people who are a part of your practice.
@chrisucl
@chrisucl 2 жыл бұрын
Then why don't we strike? Why should it just be train drivers and teachers demanding better work life balance?
@DrCellini
@DrCellini 2 жыл бұрын
bc we care too much about our patients to strike.
@SL-wk4em
@SL-wk4em 2 жыл бұрын
When train drivers and teachers strike people don’t die, that’s why.
@chrisucl
@chrisucl 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrCellini we don't have to strike for urgent cases. It should be routine things. Demand that there are more training posts and a better doctor to patient ratio and better working hours with more logistical support.
@emiliomartineziii2980
@emiliomartineziii2980 Жыл бұрын
Only until recently have I considered becoming a doctor, and from the small amount of research I've done so far, I've found a ton of horrible sounding stuff about the field. I hear rumors about corruption from insurance, rumors of 20% of doctors quitting and being poor despite sacrificing so much, rumors that the average doctor is actually poorer than the average engineer until age 50, despite going to school for like 3-5 times longer than the average engineer, rumors of being exploited as cheap labor in residency, rumors of half a million dollars of debt from medical school, rumors of working 60 hours a week on average, and theres probably way more horrible online things I haven't even listed here. Honestly, I'm not even going to let all of the online gloom affect me and I'm going to at least try two semesters of medical school and only after that, will I be able to make a good, founded, decision. I guess I'm one of the people that make up "the younger generation" that's more interested in medicine, even with the mountain of online stuff telling me engineering and business is better XD
@sunriselotus
@sunriselotus 5 ай бұрын
Yes all of it is true friend, and you can experience it for yourself.
@emiliomartineziii2980
@emiliomartineziii2980 5 ай бұрын
@@sunriselotus One year later and I’m still 100% here looking forward to the impending doom 😃
@Snoezzzzz
@Snoezzzzz 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a anesthesiologist Intensivist in the Netherlands and working here is awesome! Come to Holland!
@Amandaaa2244
@Amandaaa2244 2 жыл бұрын
Last month was the worst month of my life--ob/gyn rotation in PA school. I keep trying to tell myself it'll all be worth it in the end 🙃
@daylebrown7055
@daylebrown7055 2 жыл бұрын
A few months ago a PA saw me in a clinic with an injury that was extremely painful and scary. It probably wasn't a great intellectual challenge for her, but she knew what to do and how to do it. She fixed me up, eased my pain, and sent me home reassured. I am so grateful to her. You are suffering now so you can eliminate suffering for others later. Thank you!
@papercityvlogs4325
@papercityvlogs4325 2 жыл бұрын
If any doctor tells you not to go into medicine ask them what their kids are studying??
@jdohma7134
@jdohma7134 2 жыл бұрын
I love doing medicine and really can’t imagine doing anything else. It’s the growth of non-medicine I’m expected to do that is killing me. I’m expected to do the job of a social worker, case manager, nurse, secretary, OSH medical recorder hunter… just to name a few. I don’t discourage people from a medical career, but it is getting harder to recommend it.
@ensasillah
@ensasillah 2 жыл бұрын
Id rather be miserable as a doctor than as a Bp employee LOL "grass isnt always greener" well said
@TypicalMrGamer
@TypicalMrGamer 2 жыл бұрын
not all medical specialties are equal. Some specialties lead to more burnout and feelings of being taken advantage of by the system than others. Primary care specialities in particular are notorious for that. Then you have the surgical specialties which can be extremely demanding. If you don't mind not having patient contact (or if you think it's overrated) then radiology or pathology are probably the best specialties out there for lifestyle and mental wellbeing - depending on what you like and don't like.
@Thatguy-mo8jd
@Thatguy-mo8jd 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I have seen one doctor say interventional radiology is a bad field… nearly every physician I have talked to says this is one of the best fields long term
@forevereveru
@forevereveru 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t agree with the statement that “younger generations are more interested in going into medicine”. A recent survey show that there is a huge shift of Ivy League graduates who normally would have gone to medicine instead are going into the Tech field. The world has forever changed compared to 20 even 10 years ago, and in a good way. There are faster ways to accumulate wealth and become financial independent (which is what attracts the younger generation) than medicine. Guaranteed, medicine is a slow but secure path, you will always have a job in the US if you work in healthcare, and the doctor’s pay is on average still nicer than probably the average tech industry workers, so it still has its edge over the booming tech field. But I don’t believe going into medicine is as attractive as it used to be. Younger generation has more choices nowadays to become rich, and faster.
@daviderickennedy2194
@daviderickennedy2194 9 ай бұрын
If people took this guy's advice, many of us would be dead or just miserable. Thank God some people become doctors!
@michelegeiger520
@michelegeiger520 2 жыл бұрын
I’d be interested in your thoughts about the Radonda Vaught criminal case……being a retired RN, I feel like this guilty verdict is setting the precedent for those in healthcare to not be honest about errors made in the future, fearing criminal repercussions. There’s absolutely no excuse for what happened, but she will live with this the rest of her life, she admitted her error and was fired and lost her license. Everyone is human, people make mistakes. I feel like this could be any of us in healthcare.
@MrLuffy9131
@MrLuffy9131 2 жыл бұрын
Especially in Pharmacy
@Weallneedapurpose
@Weallneedapurpose 3 ай бұрын
The interest is growing in medicine because it is a more stable financial move then most other sectors you go into. Everyone needs to be fixed. The government will always help fund it and it is never going to go away. The problem is that because they are doing it for the money they aren’t going to care as much about doing it for the right reasons.
@Nuclear_Spark
@Nuclear_Spark 2 жыл бұрын
Terrible administration, talks of capping pay, abusive patients with little accountability, refusal to raise pay during the worst medical crisis in modern times and general bad treatment of some of their most essential workers, rising expectations (you HAVE to know something that previously was NOT a requirement), skyrocketing costs of tuition, potentially poor lifestyle with little free time, potential for burn out... there's a ton of things that are to be considered when going into this field. It absolutely is not for everyone. That being said, I am still very much looking forward to starting my journey to becoming a rad tech!! Thank you for your videos. They have helped solidify my choice of going into imaging. Much love, stay safe.
@lovelovevon4316
@lovelovevon4316 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an NP. I have been day trading for 2 yrs and now I regret ever going back to school. I work 3 days a week as an RN. No night shifts. No people pleasing and kissing ass. No understaffing with low resources. No micromanagement. No low standards. I will soon be leaving the medical field altogether once I pay off my student loan debt. I wondering if I should even maintain my license. I should have went into computer programming or finance. I do not ever want my children to work as a doctor or a nurse. This pandemic has exposed the plagues of the health care system. I don't know when it will get fixed. Matter of fact it's not healthcare. It's sick care. If medicine cared about health they wouldn't limit access to care and medications.
@lol0609
@lol0609 2 жыл бұрын
I have friends in computer programming and finance the grass ain’t greener on the other side.
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 2 жыл бұрын
"Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be health care workers" What has changed over the last half century? When I stared working in 1970 I was in love with electronics and quickly found a niche in troubleshooting and repairing avionics. That was a big jump ahead of the boogeyman in careers of the time: manual labor. My choice was interesting, then exciting, then decently lucrative, then consuming. In the last 25 years of my career, which shifted into IT field support at a large electric company, every ER visit I had for my aging body was the result of job stress. (Waiting in an ED to find out if I needed emergency brain surgery to repair damage from a 296/140something hypertensive crisis was a bit of a wake-up call.) My point is that across the modern jobscape there is no shortage of jobs that will consume us. If you don't have a job that constantly threatens to squash your endocrine system you are a loser. (Not much of a stretch - I worked with a man who was worked to the stage of adrenal collapse. He was on short term disability for more than a year, and when he came back he was gaunt and could barely speak. After another 2 years on a less immediate position he returned to a sort of normalcy.) Nursing runs in my wife's side of the family. My wife was a geriatric care nurse for most of her career; my daughter is taking the administrative path. My wife's best friend, working at an LTC facility, went on short term disability - again, adrenal dysfunction - and then saw the wisdom of retiring early. It is the same across much of medicine - some parts less "in the soup" than others, but they are all trending there. Good luck, brave people. Don't let The Beast consume you before you are ready to retire.
@duran4689
@duran4689 2 жыл бұрын
As much as it is a dream for me to become a doctor I am worried about what I will unravel as I get closer to applying to med school and maybe getting into a school. Sometimes I think about PA school but I want to bring out the potential I know I can achieve however I don’t know if I’ll regret it once I realize the reality of it. Sadly I don’t see myself doing anything else I love science and health.
@grandma460
@grandma460 2 жыл бұрын
You should 100% do some job shadowing. Happy nurse here.
@SxCR4WR
@SxCR4WR 2 жыл бұрын
Im currently working as a medic in AF and hopefully getting into our PA program. I’ve been with so many different doctors, nurses and specialities. I always here the PA’s love what they do. It could just be the military lifestyle or maybe they simply do have a good quality of life. Do some shadowing for sure though and best of luck
@drRusly
@drRusly 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I am breathing, I will keep that noone in my family is entering medicine. I also suggest other who I know if he/ she wanna be in this medicine. The comitment is made far before this pandemic. I just dont wanna other suffer like I do.
@alistairmcelwee7467
@alistairmcelwee7467 2 жыл бұрын
I was an oncology nurse, so, in nursing not medicine. However, speaking as a cusp of Boomer/Gen-X RN), I’d never recommend either medicine or nursing to any young person. I loved being an oncology nurse, but the profession kept being diminished, demeaned, and degraded due to bureaucracy, endless charting which allowed no time to spend with a dying patient and his/her family, terrible management of nurses by hospital administration, disregard for patient safety by hospital admin, ridiculous scheduling practices, and … etc. Some of these issues are shared by physicians I believe. Healthcare should not leave those providing it with such a bitter taste in their mouths, but this is down to hospital admin and rigid regulation I believe.
@leighannjohnson1194
@leighannjohnson1194 2 жыл бұрын
I’m on the cusp of Gen X and Millennial (I personally identify as Gen X 😂) and things have only worsened (from a nursing perspective). I wonder if anyone will be around to take care of us as we age…
@lrebsten7155
@lrebsten7155 Жыл бұрын
I think it is like you say, older people are nearing retirement. But also, the further you get from the pain of starting out and nearing retirement, the “rosier” your glasses get and the more nostalgic you get. The things that caused you grief, strife, pain in starting out your career now turn into your, “favorite war stories”. (Just think of that FAVORITE silent generation war refrain, “IN MY DAY, we were snowed in for 3 days straight and it was all hands on deck and that happened 5 times during the worst Winter season in 1962.” And I am plenty sure that they would have been contemplating suicide that season; let alone ever recommend their field to their kids. (But then again, The Silent Generation would never admit their feelings). The more you are distanced from the pain, the more you you are nostalgic and proud of what you went through and came out stronger on the other end. The data makes perfect sense to me. But even though I said otherwise above ☝️- I still think the silent generation would have came home and instead of discouraging their children to go into medicine, they would still push them into it, because it will, “Make a man out of you and I want my son to be made of sterner stuff”. And never discuss their hardships in medicine. (But then the Father would probably push the son into medicine and while his son was off in medical school - the Father would go to the study, load a single bullet into the chamber and pull the trigger). And everyone would never in a million years think he did it because of the stress of medicine - because if medicine was so stressful, why would he push his son into it. The Silent Generation kept their feelings to themselves
@JoshKorzan
@JoshKorzan 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight Dr. Cellini. Thanks for sharing! 👏
@neiljohnson7914
@neiljohnson7914 2 жыл бұрын
I always want to be at the bottom of the totem pole. That's the foundation of the totem pole. It's less showy than the top part, of course, but it's absolutely essential to the totem pole. it's what keeps it standing.
@shanksmd
@shanksmd 2 жыл бұрын
Right on with you there, doc. I wouldn't trade my decision to into medicine for anything. As for young people, that's the right answer: it depends. And that's always been the right answer.
@er1cmaurer
@er1cmaurer 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like 60% of parents are GOOD parents. Medicine isn’t worth it people, and most of it comes from being in CRUSHING debt.
@lindseysturkie2205
@lindseysturkie2205 2 жыл бұрын
I am a nurse retiring in 18 months after 35 years (62 y/o). Can't wait!!!! I was in the NAVY 8 years. I worked OR, critical care, medical missions, and administration. I have a real MSN. Not a quicky mail order one. My wife and daughter are nurses as well. I've seen significant changes over the years both from the clinical aspect and the patient aspect. Government and regulatory agencies have become more intrusive. It often seems we are treating machines, charts, and policies rather than patients. I think nurses as a whole are more respected by fellow providers but the patients have gotten far more demanding, disrespectful, sicker, and non compliant (Dr.Google) with treatment plans. My back hurts constantly (obese patients, walking/standing for 10-12 hrs) and many sleepless nights (political correctness). Would I recommend health care; in general NO. If one is determined then I would recommend dentistry or like you, interventional radiology. GrumpyGrampaNurse
@FLAC2023
@FLAC2023 2 жыл бұрын
I ( nor many i know )haven't gotten a pay raise in almost ten years while working harder and bringing more revenue to the hospital while risking myself and my family... Over my dead body my son will go into medicine...
@Meinvo
@Meinvo 2 жыл бұрын
You made a good hypothesis on why there's discrepancy between ages. Another possibility is that for some people, they went to medicine because their parents/siblings went there. This could stem from the desire to catch up with them or follow family's step, but along the way they realized it's not their passion. This is pretty common in Asia because children are expected to follow their parent's footstep and get further ahead. I am not sure if such thing happened in US.
@ryaniam22
@ryaniam22 2 жыл бұрын
Well normal medicine where you actually work with sick people IN PERSON every time you bill is brutal. This is coming from a nurse who has worked my whole life on a medicine unit. Nursing is even more brutal. Dr's like radiologists, ophthalmologists, plastic surgeons, and dermatologists have a nice cushy lifestyle. They make the most money too. Probably went along with being able to actually work crazy hours without hating yourself and life. But anyone who works in a hospital or ER, has too work with the worst clientele imaginable. Literally 1/3 of out patients on my medicine unit have substance abuse problems be it alcohol, meth, or opiates. They are extremely rude, pathetic in a lot of ways, mostly not interested in making a change, and it makes it like hitting your head against the wall. I don't care if they pay you a million a year you hate every second of it....until you quit with your stacks of cash. Cardiologists sounds better right? Nope. 1/2 your clientele is IV drug addicts with vegetations in their heart from shooting up. Also not interested in giving a shit. Gyno, urology, and obs.....you look at anuses, genitalia and poop tubes all day. Again, would hate every second except the pay check. Internal medicine Dr's.....they are incharge of coordinating said shit show. Family medicine seems like the best life and least stress other than radiologists and pathology. Those are for introverts who hate to see people or are in it solely for the cash. I realize people mostly do medicine for the money. Anyone who says otherwise is full of shit. Calling bs lol. Master manipulators who select other manipulators to be in their profession to weasel more money out of the system. Everyone does medicine for the money, status, and prestige that comes with some of the big specialties. But I have met a few people whose parents were Dr's who advised me not to go into medicine.....only to find out they did. Little weasels wanted the cash for themselves and their weasely parents got them into med school too. 1/2 these Dr's come from families of Dr's who bribed their way into med school. Such a crock of shit
@BoltCRNA
@BoltCRNA 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend my child to become a CRNA but I don't think I'd recommend almost any other career in healthcare. Do CRNA or choose tech.
@bluethunder9102
@bluethunder9102 2 жыл бұрын
Why tho?
@leighannjohnson1194
@leighannjohnson1194 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, do tell. Why should they not consider being, say, a nurse practitioner or a PA? What is your experience in those roles and why would you discourage them?
@polarbarr21
@polarbarr21 2 жыл бұрын
I’m an RN and I’ve told anyone I know not to be a nurse or if you have to go into nursing to not be a hospital floor nurse. Go get NP or other higher degree where you won’t be on the floor. The pay is NOT worth it. My husband made more than double what I did and I worked longer hours and worked a lot harder (physically and emotionally). I left nursing to raise my children and don’t regret leaving at all. Nursing hours are bad for parents.
@flowd7451
@flowd7451 2 жыл бұрын
we need nurses, life is hard
@tommyortiz6623
@tommyortiz6623 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I loved being a paramedic! I made switch to being a restaurant general manager for more money and I hate it. I am going back to school for BSN and I know I’m going love it just like I loved it before. So many things you can do as a nurse! I could even go back to ambulance if I wanted to as a critical care nurse.
@juliegoldbeck6431
@juliegoldbeck6431 2 жыл бұрын
I think lots of parents regardless of profession, tell their children not to go into their profession. I know an engineer and and a teacher who didn’t want their children to go into their profession.
@sunriselotus
@sunriselotus 5 ай бұрын
Yes Dr. Cellini, I agree it’s probably you went into the dream specialty branches like radiology, Derm, optho and that is why you are happy. Any of other fields, I will agree with all the other comments listed.
@Uromastyxfanatics
@Uromastyxfanatics 24 күн бұрын
Thanks doc , I’m a masochist and this job is just what I was looking for
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