Dreadnought vs 000 - How Good is Your Ear? Take the Quiz!

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Boyd Timothy

Boyd Timothy

4 жыл бұрын

Test your ear in a blind test after learning about the main differences between my Pre*War Guitars Dreadnought (Model D) and my 000-2018 (a 000-18 with 28-style appointments).
Quiz starts at: 05:42
Guitars Recorded with:
Mic L: Shure KSM32
Mic R: sE Electronics sE5
Interface: Zoom H6
Mode: 96 kHz/24-bit
Audio Effects: None / Nothing added (or removed)
Guitar Pick: BlueChip TAD 50
Strings: Martin Lifespan SP (Medium Gauge)
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Пікірлер: 249
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 4 жыл бұрын
Jump straight to the quiz: 05:42
@M16Scow
@M16Scow 2 жыл бұрын
Number 2 answered the question 000 vs Dred for fingerpicking. The 000 sounded much more balanced to me. Good demo
@metallicblood
@metallicblood 9 ай бұрын
I didn't try to tell them apart but rather tested myself for which sounds more pleasent to me (without the distracting view). While I thought I'd prefer the dreadnought in most cases, I actually liked the 000 in roughly half of the examples better.
@danieleidet7131
@danieleidet7131 6 ай бұрын
For me it’s how comfortable they are holding sitting down and the 000 wins for me.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 6 ай бұрын
Makes a lot of sense. The 000 definitely wins that battle! It's the go-to when you just wanna sit down and relax and play something nice.
@rblanks2050
@rblanks2050 6 ай бұрын
so the 000 has evo frets is that right? and from what i read you dont detect much difference in terms of tone etc?
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 6 ай бұрын
@@rblanks2050 That’s right. I sent my Dreadnought in for a re-fret also and had them change it to EVO fretwire. I’m sure if it were possible to play the same guitar back-to-back with standard vs EVO frets, you could probably notice a very slight difference, but my dread sounds the same to me as before. The EVO fretwire feels a lot smoother and peace of mind knowing I’m likely not to ever develop a buzz because a fret is worn out since they last much longer.
@BrianWMay
@BrianWMay 2 жыл бұрын
I’m fortunate enough to own both 000-28 and a D-28, both bought new in 2008. Absolutely agree with your comments, can’t choose between as it depends upon your mood.
@beastlybombers
@beastlybombers 2 жыл бұрын
That was fun. Wonderful playing
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you liked it and thanks for the nice comment. :)
@MandySommers
@MandySommers 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Info! Thanks for sharing!
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! :)
@dereklong801
@dereklong801 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm really surprised at how much warmer the 000 is!
@Peter-oh3hc
@Peter-oh3hc 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. The straight forward explanation of the dementions and string length was very helpful. Got most wrong, which means I should get both in my hands. Thanks again
@rafaelcuadra5009
@rafaelcuadra5009 8 ай бұрын
super thanks, loved it!
@kevfirey7799
@kevfirey7799 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting well thought out review
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and your kind comments.
@keanelimusic
@keanelimusic 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@trueblack6760
@trueblack6760 Жыл бұрын
I'm using OOO but missed the quiz of No.6 and No.7. Quite enjoyed this video! Thank you!
@rickstanley5403
@rickstanley5403 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video thanks
@bluesysamurainao4557
@bluesysamurainao4557 2 жыл бұрын
Great play!! It wasn't difficult. Some demos are confused but your demo is awesome. Easy to answer. Please make another quiz.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm planning on making another quiz soon using two Pre-War Guitars Dreadnought guitars that have different tone woods. It'll be fun to hear them back-to-back. Haven't had a chance yet because I recently had shoulder surgery, but I'm on the mend, so hopefully soon!
@bluesysamurainao4557
@bluesysamurainao4557 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoydTimothy Thank you!! Sounds great!! I hope your shoulder gets better and better. For a few years My arms and fingers have not been perfect to move so I changed the way I play. No play a guitar, no life for me. I'm waiting for your new cool demo!!
@sthengr
@sthengr 2 жыл бұрын
I only missed one, number 4. Great video, thanks!
@Melanatedaquarian
@Melanatedaquarian 2 жыл бұрын
Have been playing less than a year and I own two dreadnoughts and planning to add more guitars to the collection over the next few years. I was immediately drawn to dreads because my first choice was either a J45, Hummingbird, or HD28 - ultimately I choose the bird. Recently added a D18 and been planning to add the last two Gibson dreads I would really want before getting a 000, but you're really making this harder for me. Your 000 sounds really good! Great playing and great video!
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. If you can find the right one, a 000 can really do well.
@jeffreybuckingham3782
@jeffreybuckingham3782 3 жыл бұрын
Aced it! I Love the sound of Acoustic instruments. Vibrating Wood and Steel moving air, and Souls.✌
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Congrats and thanks for watching. :)
@Ziraffe2
@Ziraffe2 Жыл бұрын
Splendid work - after playing acoustic for almost 50 years I only shot 3. Keep up the good spirit
@Ziraffe2
@Ziraffe2 Жыл бұрын
P.S. - I'd have to try them both live - but 99 % the dread would win.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
@@Ziraffe2 Thanks for watching and for commenting. For sure, I'd likely choose the dread myself too, especially since I mostly play bluegrass. The 000 is fun to play on when I'm solo and even though it has the volume, it falls apart a little bit with too jangly of strings when trying to flatpick fast at a jam.
@walterearly55
@walterearly55 3 ай бұрын
My desert island guitar is a Zager ZAD80CE ! You can't understand until you play it. Zager is one of the best guitars for the money you could possibly buy.
@corlissdean
@corlissdean 2 жыл бұрын
Came across your great video. I have just bought a 000-28 (2015) after having listened to both the D-28 and the 000 extensively. Before playing your video I had a momentary “oh no”, did I choose wrong for what I wanted (primarily at home, relaxed, easy to handle). Got 6 out of 7 and absolutely reaffirmed that I made the right choice for me. Thanks so much!
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great ear and congrats on your 000! :)
@grievouserror
@grievouserror 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an entirely enjoyable video. It turns out my ear is better than I thought; I only missed one. For my first guitar (the one I'm attempting to decipher now), I found a good used Yamaha electric-acoustic that happened to be a smaller (concert) size. Initially I was torn between a dreadnought or something smaller but the issue was decided by circumstance and so far it's turned out well.
@mr.bumble8400
@mr.bumble8400 3 жыл бұрын
That was very good and instructive. Thanks. I was right 4 Times on the basis of pronounced base. It was more difficult for me to distinguish midtones between the two guitars. I was using apple ear phones. Good job.
@sonatabigdeal8683
@sonatabigdeal8683 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I've historically been a 00 and 000 fan but universally preferred the dread here. May be a convert
@USNAVDC
@USNAVDC 2 жыл бұрын
Both of those are beautiful guitars. I have a 1963 Martin D-28 that my Dad bought new and a 2015 Martin 000-16G both nice guitars, but I love the 000....the scale length on this model Martin 000 is 25.4'' . Great job on describing the guitars.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You really can't go wrong with a good 000. I'll bet your '63 D28 sings nicely too!
@USNAVDC
@USNAVDC 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoydTimothy The '63 is like a grand piano.....just an amazing guitar.
@ReVeRbx-fe5wr
@ReVeRbx-fe5wr Жыл бұрын
I got every single one right. The bass response and volume is very apparent. The 000 was not as loud and brighter than the Dreadnought. Your description of the differences was very accurate and the audio reflected exactly what you said.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
Wow! Nice work and thanks for dropping a comment about them.
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 Жыл бұрын
000s are definitely not brighter than Dreads. Well all depends on the bracing. But usually short scales are warmer
@blindcanseemusic
@blindcanseemusic 3 жыл бұрын
great advice
@vivattt
@vivattt 2 жыл бұрын
I am a little bit late to join your quiz but all my answers were correct. It took twice for me to listen to quiz number 6, again my answer was still correct. I have Martin D-13E a cheap version of your Dreadnought that's why I cannot find any difficulties to differentiate the sound . Enjoyable quiz. Thanks Mate.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Way to go! Thanks for your comment and you’re among the lucky ones who has gotten them all correct. I’ve taken it myself a few times and have missed a couple.
@vivattt
@vivattt 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoydTimothy can't wait for your next quizzes. 👍
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
@@vivattt I recently released another one comparing two dreadnoughts with different tone woods that you might like: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apiRa8Vhts6UYYk.html
@Mikenperu
@Mikenperu 3 жыл бұрын
Nice playing! I could hear the differences, and do enjoy LOTS of BASS, I think the 000 sounds terrific, pretty amazing, for what it is! Both sounded great! If my son was playing SOLO on a desert island, I'd probably prefer to hear the drednought, but IF there were two (or even three) of us and I had a bass (and then drums or improvised percussion), probably the 000.
@67er_matze97
@67er_matze97 2 жыл бұрын
haha - this is a good one 👍 6/7 for me. I've got a nice Martin OM and a Taylor Jumbo. But I love the sound and overall feel of a D guitar very much and think the time will come that a nice D28 will joyn my collection :) Very nice instruments and playing btw!!
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Nice score to only miss one. I’ve been doing some recording of some songs I’ve written and have been finding that my 000 is a lot more balanced and needs less EQ treatment to remove (barely) certain low frequencies. My dread I have to pull down certain lower frequencies in order to make it not be too boomy. But, when playing live with others there’s nothing more satisfying than the big bottom end of my dread. The newer D28 guitars that Martin is making right now are pretty stellar. I wouldn’t mind picking one of those up myself. :)
@mickymillersson4376
@mickymillersson4376 3 жыл бұрын
I have hog 000, hummingbird, j15, Eastman dread and 000 and a good all solid j200 copy. I can tell each, by sound, individually when I first play them but after a few minutes they all start to sound very much like at least one of the others. I did get most of the quiz right though.
@mikemccabe8198
@mikemccabe8198 2 жыл бұрын
Really like the blind comparison that forces you to only use your ears and eliminates visual bias. Got 5 out of 7. As far as a desert island guitar, probably the 000 since I'd be playing a lot of blues.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work! 000 is an excellent choice. Wish I could play blues a little better. It’s a work in progress.
@peternaur
@peternaur 2 жыл бұрын
Great video - I got 6 in 7. Could not tell in number 6. And reviewing the question again I still feel that the 000 sounds boomier in that particular clip. And generally I feel that the 000 records much nicer. I have just sold my HD-28 because I found it too boomy and now I am awaiting delivery of a Recording King RD-328 all solid rosewood/adirondack 000 guitar. I hope it sounds something like yours - then it'll be great. I feel my playing is changing. I am not as heavy handed as I used to be - and I rather want a slightly cheaper 000 that I can play on the couch or in the garden and not be worried when my children knock it over. Great video, very consistent playing and most of all perfectly selected pieces to demonstrate the differences. I appreciated it alot!
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work! 6/7 I is better than I’ve ever done. You can’t go wrong with a 000 for sure. One thing I found recording my dread is the location I record makes a huge difference. I’ve since treated my room with acoustic panels and, more importantly, bass traps in the corners. That and mic placement make a huge difference. But for sure the body size difference affects the sound a lot. Best of luck with the RK. Sounds like it’ll be a great one!
@ironlionHQ
@ironlionHQ 5 ай бұрын
I've got a couple dreads....now I want a 000. I like delta blues and want to learn new techniques (fingerpicking and slide) I've also become quite found of folk, country western and bluesgrass. I used to play hard rock and metal, now I play bass in a church but in my spare time, I play my acoustics. I LOVE dreadnaughgs but I would like a slightly smaller guitar for couch picking comfort.
@mariodriessen9740
@mariodriessen9740 2 жыл бұрын
6 out of 7 (I was wrong on the sixth question). I'm saving for a OOO28 at the moment. I wanted something iconic, something really good sounding and something comfortable. It helps that I prefer the looks of the OOO's. Thanks for the video!
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it and nice job getting 6/7! Great plan to save up for a 000-28 too. Can't go wrong with one of those. :)
@kilgoretrout321
@kilgoretrout321 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the 000 because it sounds more even, fits my hands better, and sounds better with my voice. The 000-17 is a sleeper. Sounds great with the satin finish, and I prefered it to the 28s I played back to back with it
@USNAVDC
@USNAVDC Жыл бұрын
The bass string tells the tale usually. The dread has stronger bass...usually, but a 000 is really nice to have sitting beside you when you just want to pick up a guitar when you're sitting around. You hit the nail on the head...get them both. There's a new song in every different guitar. Really nice playing. Thankd for posting. I have a 1963 Martin D-28 that my Dad bought new and a Martin 000-16 that I got new...and several other guitars. My favorite guitar changes all the time, but I always see a new guitar that I'd like to have. I need help! 🙂
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
It does always seem that N+1 is the solution to all problems! :)
@USNAVDC
@USNAVDC Жыл бұрын
@@BoydTimothy Ain't that the truth! Have you ever watched some of the older videos of The Greekflatpicker (Yiannis) . He has some priceless videos of many different vintage and custom guitars. Yiannis is in Greece and super nice guy and a killer player too.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
@@USNAVDC I've watched a number of his videos. He is such a great player! I've "borrowed" one of his many breaks to New Camptown Races. Amazing that he comes across so many different guitars. I like when he and his friend trade back flatpicking breaks.
@migueldemaria3830
@migueldemaria3830 8 ай бұрын
and after getting the OOO, and the dread, get a mandolin, and then a banjo, and then a parlor, and then... :)
@yasirkadhim5841
@yasirkadhim5841 8 ай бұрын
Interesting comparison. Got 6 out of 7 (missed number 6, the fingerstyle). Also, somewhat surprisingly, liked the sound of the dreadnaught more! Did a blind test with my wife listening, a dreadnaught vs an OM (rosewoods). She also liked the dreadnaught better. Thanks
@renshimarek
@renshimarek 2 жыл бұрын
Super film ! :)
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@victorgamez8885
@victorgamez8885 3 жыл бұрын
6/7 for me. Great playing! I love the sound of both but i prefer the 000.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 3 жыл бұрын
Good job. I think overall my 000 gets more play time, but if I'm performing live (which will eventually happen again), I'm usually toting the dread.
@mayimet1716
@mayimet1716 3 жыл бұрын
Depends if the desert island is windy or near the crashing waves. I'll need the DN if so. If I can hunker down in a quiet area in my hut, then the 000. And in fact, thanks to you and this video, I've narrowed my search to the 000 size now. The articulation and dynamic range is better I think and I can amplify it for more volume if required. Great video, thank you.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Thanks for commenting. The Pre*War 000 can certainly handle a lot. Good luck with your search!
@antongronberg7123
@antongronberg7123 2 жыл бұрын
5/7 for me! However when you acculy see the guitars - then it all makes sense hahah :)
@danleyrold45
@danleyrold45 3 жыл бұрын
Well I got the first four right. I have a D-18 and an Eastman OM (same as 000). I can tell them apart😉. I agree with your assessment of both 100%. Great video.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job! It’s definitely harder to pick them out than I though they’d be. In person it’s a little easier. Thanks for your comment. :)
@mattharris4000
@mattharris4000 Жыл бұрын
I got 6 out of 7. Love the comfortably of a 000 but will need to compare in person to decide
@johnpj6345
@johnpj6345 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Boyd like the video and great playing ' I've just got a new Martin 000 28 reimadgend ' I like it very much prefer the shape ' I agree with you It's more of a late night guitar ' but also like the big sound of a dreadnought . I got 4 out of 7 in the test . Regards John
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments. I'm glad I'm not the only one who got fooled in the test by a couple of them. The Martin 000-28 is a great guitar and I love the neck width and bridge spacing they're currently doing - exactly the same specs as both my PW guitars.
@kristiangurholt59
@kristiangurholt59 2 жыл бұрын
This could be a potential eye-opener for a lot of guitarists. I got 4/7 right, which is not better than chance. So it definitely challenged some of my big vs small body preconceptions. However the speakers/headphones can obviously affect the sound, and so I believe playing them yourself will better illustrate the differences.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Great point. Nothing beats first-hand experience. I'd also say that my 000 records really well. It has a very balanced sound where my dreadnought can get a little tricky because it has so much low end to it. I use medium gauge strings on both and that also contributes to a closer sound. A lot of people like to use lighter gauge strings on a 000 and that definitely makes it feel and sound quite a bit different. Thanks for reporting your score and for your insightful comment.
@kristiangurholt59
@kristiangurholt59 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoydTimothy I agree. I’m mostly a fingerstyle guitarist myself, and it’s interesting because the first proper acoustic I bought was an mahogany Eastman E1-OM, that I ended up “trading” for a rosewood dreadnaught (Yamaha LL-16). It’s fantastic, but yes the bass is harder to control. I still have the credit locked in the store, so I might go pick up that Eastman again (like a fool, lol), but have a hard time deciding between the OM or the dreadnaught equivalent (E1D). I found the D to actually be more balanced in sound albeit more “boring” where as the OM was a bit boomy in the low mids (the reason I gave it back) - but it also had an incredible midrange sweetness to it. Just a little story on the difficulties of finding that “stranded-on-an-island-guitar”. Like you said, one needs both. Thanks again for commenting and this excellent unbiased and blind comparison, there needs to more like this.
@richardhare9163
@richardhare9163 5 ай бұрын
I have a 1970 D28 and a 1953 00021. I can tell the difference between my two guitars, but only got one correct with your test. My desert island guitar would be my Jumbo, though. Beats them both in sound quality and volume.
@uria702
@uria702 Жыл бұрын
I like the orchestra model best. It has the smaller body of the 000 but the longer scale of the dreadnaught
@ThePhantomTerror
@ThePhantomTerror 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never even played a 000 in my life, so I only got 3 out of 7 questions right. The examples with heavy strumming are really easy to tell, because a dreadnought has a recognizable “thump” to it. I’m surprised, however, at how responsive the 000 is at fingerpicking. To my ears, it has a way better bass response in this style. This might be why I picked the wrong answers, because I mistakenly associate a dreadnought as having better bass in all style of play.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I usually associate a bigger bass response to a dreadnought but I also think it has a lot to do with the particular build of the 000 in question. I’ve never been a fan of the Martin-built ones from the 90’s and early 2000s with straight braces. Once they moved to scalloped bracing it made a huge difference. And then, of course, the modern ones built by Pre-War Guitars Co. are in a different league entirely because they are building them in the same way as a good 1930s specimen with scalloped bracing, hide glue, etc.
@jgod7966
@jgod7966 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo l'Artiste et Merci. Jean (FRANCE)
@yasirkadhim5841
@yasirkadhim5841 8 ай бұрын
Interesting comparison. Got 6 out of 7 (missed number 6). Also, somewhat surprisingly, liked the sound of the dreadnaught more! Did a blind test with my wife listening, a dreadnaught vs an OM (rosewoods). She also liked the dreadnaught better. Thanks
@davi1
@davi1 4 ай бұрын
same here, also on 6 he played a little softer then louder on the 000 passage so it was a little confusing but agree, on all the others the dreadknaught sounded much better especially the E string.
@rosewoodsteel6656
@rosewoodsteel6656 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I need to go back to school. :) What surprised me is how good the Dread sounded when I thought for sure it was a 000.
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 Жыл бұрын
I felt the opposite. Amazing how the 000 held up with certain strengths of a dread
@tubeoutubepas
@tubeoutubepas 7 ай бұрын
thanks for the nice test, ...and if you hesitate try a j45!
@2musiclover534
@2musiclover534 Жыл бұрын
Wonderfully done. My surprise is how close the two are. Sometimes I prefer the tone of the D and sometimes the 000. Got 6 of 7 though I was confident it was 7 of 7, but obviously not. Very surprised how loud the 000 is compared to the D.
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jeffhildreth9244
@jeffhildreth9244 2 жыл бұрын
5 of 7 correct. I would like to hear the same guitars with D'Addario strings. I played Dreadnaughts for years, eventually favoring the 12 fret D-18S and variants ( I have owned 5). I currently have a 1997 Martin 0000-1 and a 2015 00-18V with highly flamed mahogany backs and sides. Were I to choose between a Dread and a 000... I would choose an OM.. the 000 with a 25.4 scale but with a proper full sized pickguard. Over the years I find that I much prefer the sound and playability of smaller guitars. I play with 12 guage strings and have developed a lighter touch, so no need for a dread. Excellent presentation.. liked and subscribed. PS Nice playing, nice guitars. Thanks from So Oregon.
@darrenwilliamson9325
@darrenwilliamson9325 2 жыл бұрын
I was 3/7 on the quiz (guessing the dreadnought) and I own and play both a Martin Dread and 000.
@kennethchambers9949
@kennethchambers9949 Жыл бұрын
Earphones are a must to hear the difference.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
You make a great point!
@nellatrab
@nellatrab 11 ай бұрын
GREAT video...I missed just 2...found it depended on the song/riff sometimes caused me to miss. BTW I have both 🙂
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 11 ай бұрын
Ah, great work! Thanks for giving it a go. I've missed a couple myself when I've taken the quiz so don't feel to bad. Great to have both of them to pick on.
@wilkbor
@wilkbor 2 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video. I got 5 out of 7 correct. The D had a much boomier base and that is what I was listening for. Both sounded great, but I"m not sure which one I prefer.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and great work getting that many right. It's more difficult than you think. Hard to pick which one I like the most although 8 times out of 10 choose my dread ... but only because I mostly play bluegrass.
@jamesdavid7099
@jamesdavid7099 2 жыл бұрын
Great side by side comparison. Most comparisons drag out and you forget what the other sounded like. This was done right. All personal preference though. Either guitar can be played for whatever you want. Crosby and Nash played Martin dreadnoughts exclusively, with lots of finger style stuff...sounded great. Willie Nelson played a Martin N-20 (nylon string), and played it every which way you can play a guitar....sounded great. Buy the one you want, and play it however you please.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Totally true. You can get a lot of use out of either of these guitars. Thx for watching and for your thoughts. I do find though that the 000 falls a tiny bit short when I want to flat pick really quickly. The strings are just too loose because it's a short-scale that they feel a bit jangly. That same phenomenon doesn't happen on my dread.
@danleyrold45
@danleyrold45 Жыл бұрын
16:04 I second-guessed number six and got it wrong. But I got the rest of them right. I have a D-18 and an Eastman E6OM. Love them both!
@Richard_Lush
@Richard_Lush 5 ай бұрын
I agree get both. On a desert island I’d have the Dread. It’s louder and may attract more attention.
@OscarBenben
@OscarBenben 3 жыл бұрын
I got the right answers all the time but inverted the two guitars !!!
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Hey, at least your ear is consistent. :)
@peacefulman2426
@peacefulman2426 2 жыл бұрын
Same hehe
@craigward1611
@craigward1611 Жыл бұрын
I got 5/7 I grew up playing a 000 for many years and still love its "pocket" feel. Never a fan of dreads even though I love bluegrass. Lately I have been a fan of small jumbos and have a Collings C-100, Gibson J-185 and a Martin J-40. All awesome but different. I think they are a blend between 000 and Dread.
@jjazzman1975
@jjazzman1975 2 жыл бұрын
I want to say I hear bit more jingle/loose string sound on 000 and bit more bass on Dreadnought but it's not obvious when listening even with a fancy Sennheiser HD800S and a dedicated headphone amplifier. I have listened to many many of these comparison recordings and really a minor difference between the two. I FEEL the difference when played back to back. Loudness volume difference when standing in front of someone else playing. Here is my bottom line. Dred is great to play in front of big audience acoustically (Everything becomes meaningless the moment I use any sort of transducers to amplify) or in a mood to FEEL that vibration. 000 is great for all day playing and recordings for the comfort. If I am allowed to pick one guitar then 000 for versatility. I had both and I always start with Dred to get the feel and vib and switch to 000 for the rest of the day.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't have said it better. That's a really great explanation about these two styles. Thanks!
@howard5093
@howard5093 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, dreadnought with the band and ooo by myself, therefore in the desert island, I can imagine that it would be all by myself, ooo is the answer ps I got 5 test right and in 4 (2, 3, 4 and 7) I prefered ooo and (1, 5 and 6) I like dreadnought more
@jeremyschuhmann9671
@jeremyschuhmann9671 Ай бұрын
My conclusion from this video is that there really isn’t much of a difference in sound between the Pre-War D-size and OOO when you mike them the way you did (i.e. not really close-miked), capo them up the neck, etc. I guess that if you mostly play unamplified at bluegrass or old time jams, having a really loud dreadnaught could really make life easier. You left out nut width/string separation as a variable, which has a lot of importance to finger-style players (most dreads have 1 11/16” nut while OOOs are more likely to to be 1 3/4”). You also muddied the water somewhat by putting mediums on the OOO (who puts mediums on a OOO? I would argue that most OOOs aren’t built to take mediums). I think that the fingerstyle vs plectrum playability is the main reason to have both. My desert-island guitar is an OM (OOO-size with a long scale and a 1 3/4” nut).
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comments! My studio is currently torn apart waiting for new carpet, but I’d love to add a follow-up video to this one. I have much better microphones (some DIY KM-84 clones I made) and a good way to stereo mic my guitars. My two guitars featured in this video both ave a 1 3/4” neck and the exact same bridge spacing. You’re right, I ventured out of the norm by using mediums on my 000. My particular 000 handles mediums perfectly. The purpose of my video was to keep as many things consistent as possible and in this case, the woods are the same (both mahogany back and sides and Adirondack tops). For sure, they’d sound a lot less different if I put light gauge strings on the 000 - but then I probably wouldn’t play it as much (personal preference). Haha.
@barkrussell4083
@barkrussell4083 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure which one is which but they both sound really nice
@pickerman6344
@pickerman6344 4 ай бұрын
Nice guitars. I missed the first one, but got the rest correct! I've played dreads for a long time, but lately been playing something similar to the OOO. For me it's the slight "quacky" sound that I can be heard in the smaller body guitars, along with the bass response
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 4 ай бұрын
Nice work! For sure, most 000 guitars I’ve played have something quite a bit different than dreads. Most of the 15-30yr old Martin 000 guitars (before they recently changed them to thinner and scalloped bracing) don’t sound that great to me. I like what they’ve done in their recent builds and Pre-War’s 000, to me, produces quite an incredible clear tone.
@markwandrey2937
@markwandrey2937 Жыл бұрын
In the hands of a skilled performer, either instrument will closely hold the attention of a responsive listener.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 Жыл бұрын
Bingo
@thierryloison2875
@thierryloison2875 Жыл бұрын
I love Both ....so i adopt 3 Martin M (0000)...one mahogany, one indian rosewood and ondé brazilian .....what' Else !
@caryl2043
@caryl2043 2 жыл бұрын
stumped by question 3
@VINuraka
@VINuraka Жыл бұрын
I managed to get 6 out of 7. I failed on Q6. Not bad. Thanks for the quiz! I used to play a dreadnaught im the beginning but im a small guy and hurts my shoulder so i went for a 000x1e. I enjoyed playing more and practice on picking lately.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
6! That's a pretty good score. My dreadnought's out of commission for a couple weeks, but my 000 is filling in very nicely. Thanks for watching and reporting your score. Keep on picking!
@MGStreak
@MGStreak Жыл бұрын
I also got 6 of 7, and it was ALSO number 6 that I had backwards! Guess we have the same ears!
@georgeabramson3088
@georgeabramson3088 5 ай бұрын
For a desert island guitar, I’d choose a 000. Not many bluegrass jams on desert islands! Plus I’d appreciate the shorter scale length/lower tension while playing the blues and awaiting my rescue.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 5 ай бұрын
Let's hope it doesn't come to that, but great choice!😄
@RogerThat902
@RogerThat902 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I personally prefer the 000 because most of the time I'm playing at home and don't need the Dreadnought boom. That being said, there is nothing like strumming open chords on a Dreadnought outside in a park when you can let her rip. I'm not even sure the sound is that distinct. It's that rumble feeling the Dreadnought provides that make it fun. And I say that as someone that loves 000s and just one Dreadnought for a reason.
@kilgoretrout321
@kilgoretrout321 3 жыл бұрын
It's fun when you can use guitars for what they were designed to
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 Жыл бұрын
I like the Dread inside too. Idk. I just like the sound of a dread
@Babebabedoll
@Babebabedoll 3 жыл бұрын
I got 000-28 sound so good
@UncleWiggy252
@UncleWiggy252 3 жыл бұрын
I got#6 wrong. "Get 'em both" that's the truth. I own a 2005 Carlo Robelli D-28 mahogany knockoff and a 1973 rosewood Giannini 000 knockoff. I set them up myself. Bone nuts and saddles, wood bridge pins, Grovers etc. Each cost way less than $200. They sound very similar to the two Pre*War guitars here. So, even a well purchased and cared for inexpensive guitar will serve you well. On that desert isle I'd bring.........
@derelictfields
@derelictfields Жыл бұрын
I got 4 out of 7 correct. I'm pretty surprised because in the first few questions, the differences are easy to spot, but for me it became less so in the later questions. My main instrument is a dread, but I recently bought an OM because I find them more comfortable to play in general. But I do prefer the sound of a dread slightly. If my next guitar is a dread with the wider nut width and maybe a slightly chunkier neck than my Martin, I may have my perfect guitar.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
Nice job! I think I prefer dreadnought most of the time, especially playing out with friends. You might try one of the traditional series of Collings. Their necks have seemed a bit more chunky to me, but maybe I'm just forgetting. :)
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 Жыл бұрын
You can definitely get a very chunky neck on a Martin dread
@RonBaker456
@RonBaker456 Жыл бұрын
5/7 - Disappointed in myself. LOL. Man, those guitars both sound sweet though!
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
Hehe. Don't feel too disappointed. I've taken the quiz myself and I don't think I've once gotten 7/7. You're right, they're both pretty stellar axes and I feel lucky to have them. Thanks for watching and your comment!
@emilloffler1216
@emilloffler1216 Жыл бұрын
My Martin OM28V sounds best when plugged in through my Rane EQ and my Mackie Onyx 1620i mixing desk. I actually wish to have bought a Martin D28 rather for it's fuller sound and better bass response.
@reverb508
@reverb508 2 жыл бұрын
I really, really want to like smaller body guitars, but I picked the dreadnaught every time.
@kristiangurholt59
@kristiangurholt59 2 жыл бұрын
I know right, small body is just so cozy and accessible. But once you hear that dreadnaught thump it’s hard to go back.
@danielbell4007
@danielbell4007 2 жыл бұрын
Get an OM, size of the 000 but with the scale length of the dreadnought. Get a little more punch and volume.
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 Жыл бұрын
Same
@emilloffler1216
@emilloffler1216 Жыл бұрын
I regret buying my OM 28V back in 2006, instead of buying a D28. My budget would too overloaded to own both, so I have been trying to swop my OM28V for a D28. So far no-one has shown any serious interest. The D28 to my ears is far better and fuller sounding to do the Neil Young covers I enjoy doing. And it's bass response is far better to my ears.
@RhubarbRehab
@RhubarbRehab 8 ай бұрын
I got 3 wrong, all fingerstyle or single note ones. strumming I got all right.
@mjardward
@mjardward 4 жыл бұрын
6/7 number 4 stumped me
@kaput450
@kaput450 Жыл бұрын
nice guitars, similar look/sound/materials as the recording king 127 that I am searching for. Are these made in USA?
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching it. Yes, these are made by the “Pre*War Guitars Co.” Located in Hillsborough, North Carolina. Good luck on the search for the RK 127.
@lilyrockatutu
@lilyrockatutu 8 ай бұрын
This was fun. i got #4 & 7 wrong.
@akgeezer
@akgeezer 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this would be EZ. Expected to blow one or two, but to my embarrassment, I missed them all!!! I've been playing for over 50 years. I don't play a 000, but one of my guitars is a Dreadnought. So, maybe I do need to buy a 000 and learn that tone???
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 3 жыл бұрын
You can never go wrong by having one of each. :)
@reverb508
@reverb508 2 жыл бұрын
Go for it! Variety is the spice of life!
@pedrosoledad3141
@pedrosoledad3141 3 жыл бұрын
0/7 right. I managed to consistently flip them. I am going to guess I have good ears, but my perception of what they are supposed to sound like is wrong? "shrugs"
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Interesting that you had them flipped, but that consistency is better than how I did on my own quiz. Thanks for trying it out. :)
@reefslug
@reefslug 2 жыл бұрын
Can you name some OOO s that will "knock the socks off a dreadnought" for me? Particularly ones with a lot of Bass
@Sirstarfish
@Sirstarfish Жыл бұрын
4/7 not bad
@EveyoneCallsMeTheDude
@EveyoneCallsMeTheDude Жыл бұрын
Personally I consider a drednaught a “XL” guitar and the OOO as a large or “regular sized” guitar. The OO personally is What I think is the sweet spot for the average sized person who wants to sit and play guitar comfortably. If you’re standing a dred or even the jumbo aren’t to bad. But that’s just my 2 cents and 2 cents won’t buy you shit these days lol
@EveyoneCallsMeTheDude
@EveyoneCallsMeTheDude Жыл бұрын
Also, my jumbo, Dread and 000 are all the same scale length so I don’t know what he’s talking about. My L-OO and my taylor GS mini both have shorter scales but not by much. The L-00 is just slightly smaller and the mini needs med. strings to have the same tension as light or “regular” strings
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
Good perspective. I also think it depends on the size of the ensemble. When it's just me, the 000 works great but put me in a loud acoustic jam and I definitely want my dread. Singing and performing solo with a mic? A smaller-bodied guitar does the trick really well. Such good tone too.
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 Жыл бұрын
@@EveyoneCallsMeTheDude 000s are supposed to be short scale. OM is the same scale as a dread
@jameslawrencewirth
@jameslawrencewirth Ай бұрын
i got 4B, 5A, 6B wrong. I have a 2019 Martin D35. after a year of playing it regularly, it has opened up and sings loud & proud. I'll have no other, unless it is a custom build for about $8K! In which case all factory builds will fade and fail in comparison. I have a luthier here in N Texas, Ralph Walker. Noone makes a better steel string, classical or mandolin than he!
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 Жыл бұрын
While I guessed almost all of them, some were dam close, and that's saying alot considering an 000 is a small body short scale. You get the right 000 and you won't be able to put it down
@lilyrockatutu
@lilyrockatutu 8 ай бұрын
I like them both but the dreadnought I like better.
@jamesmartin9406
@jamesmartin9406 2 жыл бұрын
Love the playing comfort and inspiration I get from a 000, but the dread has the tone. What can you do but buy both? 🤷‍♂️
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said! :)
@bakters
@bakters 2 жыл бұрын
"What can you do but buy both?" Honestly, I feel guilty that I don't play my single acoustic often enough to keep it in top shape, so it just sits there and gets older by useless string tension. The more I play her, the better she sounds. And it's a 25yo WRC top, which does not require much work to get it going. My nephew got himself a spruce top acoustic, but then transitioned to electric. His guitar is not even broken in. She sounds dead as a doornail. But those strings pull on her 24/7 for several years already...
@jamesmartin9406
@jamesmartin9406 2 жыл бұрын
@@bakters - Sorry to hear your time is in such short supply. I regularly play 4-5 guitars at home and they sound great. Have a travel guitar I enjoy several times a year as well. Fun and great sounding for what it is.
@bakters
@bakters 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmartin9406 "I regularly play 4-5 guitars at home and they sound great" Well, what if you played just one. All the time. Then tell me if they (all) still sound great. Or, to put it differently, pick one and play it a lot, while you "exercise" all the rest, just to make it fair. The most played guitar will sound the best, as long as you picked the one which fundamental sound you already like.
@jamesmartin9406
@jamesmartin9406 2 жыл бұрын
@@bakters - I like to play different sizes and wood makeups to much to focus just on one. Works for me. I’m in this for the fun of it. Nothing more.
@63phillip
@63phillip Жыл бұрын
All right except for number 7
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy Жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@darwindesilos9484
@darwindesilos9484 3 жыл бұрын
4/7 correct. Fair enough! Hahaha.. Honestly, I’m a 000 lover given my preference on Jazz,.
@BoydTimothy
@BoydTimothy 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work! Lately I’ve been favoring my 000 because I think I might like how much warmer it sounds in person. :) Jazz is awesome!
@darwindesilos9484
@darwindesilos9484 3 жыл бұрын
@@BoydTimothy Thanks man! Indeed, it is!
@claudiovajo8504
@claudiovajo8504 Жыл бұрын
Suono Martin HD28 e Taylor GT urban ash. le ho riconosciute tutte
@normanwylie1530
@normanwylie1530 5 ай бұрын
I got all 14 wrong? As with most guitar brands, there is only one good test, Play it yourself. Some "lesser " name brands have beautiful sound and action. Play a lot of different guitars!
@cecilsathyadasan
@cecilsathyadasan Жыл бұрын
Him : Of Course you Should Get Both 🔥. Me : Yes Sir 😌❤️
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