yeah they are two different things a song is a song the dance of eternity is a prog

and also not having 24 frets. Its all the gears' fault man!

In my case it's my fault knowing how to play only not even half of the song.. 😅

my guitar doesn't have a whammy bar, that's the reason i can't play this song

This song is way harder on guitar than drums tho, more like the keyboard player

yup...i was trying to play it yesterday...the starting was good...but when it reaches the trills you can be sure only master guitarists can play that

@@epiccabbage6530 you clearly don't play drums

@@epiccabbage6530 you don’t understand drums

@@epiccabbage6530 no

Wonder if its the “ most changing song in the world “ ? Like world record ?

Schism by tool when it came out had 57 or something and was the record. Dream Theater of course blew them out of the water I do think this is the highest one but don’t quote me on it.

@@Ashtar_ConfederatioN the winner is Stravinsky's Rite of Spring with 444, but this song has higher ratio of time signature changes per minute of runtime at 18, vs 12 per minute for the rite of spring

@@Kumquat_Lord what the …. Thanks friend I’ll check out 🤩

@@Ashtar_ConfederatioN another fun fact about it, when it first premiered there was a literal riot in the audience because of how weird it sounded

i was thinking the same! Love it

Economy picking ?

Though I bet his left hand feels like it's been "dancing for an eternity"

That's what its for, just use your wrist calmly to pick, moving too much is just too much, hurts and not good.

Nah you'd see the giant beard XD

@@codythedoggo7671 hahaha

Not to mention the arm hair.

@@thestradiosmiles not just the hair. The sheer size of his arms too. The man is guy whose picture I look at to get motivated before a work out

Lol that small arm john played this song in 1999?

+1 sub for you bro

you can make even 4/4 complex if you want.

Needs more 5/8 if you ask me.

Yes, it's true... But also many sections on this video there's a simplified version from multiples of 4, you can check 'official' transcriptions and the MP count sheet. Here on YT, search for: "The odd time signatures of The Dance of Eternity"

Ultimately it's more like years rather than hours lol

too late for me.... :(

I'm learning it at the moment. Not going to lie to you, it's bloody hard, but it is achievable. Like many things in music it's about developing muscle memory, so you need to just play sections over and over again. Have a go.

Well said, it's all about dividing in smaller sections until you can play them together, doesn't matter how long takes you to learn it

Its not that bad...its a feel thihg, and its mostly adding an extra note in or taking one out. Its not like you're thinking 4/4, 5/8, 4/4, 6/8, 17/8, 9/8 etc...learn the notes, then stick em in

@@rickfeith6372 Best way is to ignore those time changes and just practice/play along to the track. If you're too aware of them it can start to mess with your brain.

I mean tbh with this song you don’t really count all of it you have to literally feel it otherwise u will get lost

@Paolo Emerick wow, EVEN YOU?!

@@chippchipp1 😂😂😂😂😂

Its a feel thing...you would lose the groove trying to count the whole thing and play it. Alt picking does the counting for you in a lot of parts, some parts are definitely counting the down beat though. Play LOTS of Dream Theater tunes along with the record and you'll get it...the hardest thing about Dance is the unique shapes of the left hand, not the timing. Its not as impossible as you'd think. Even I struggled to count this. 😜

So, I had to cover this song for a school show, and while I didnt nail it 100% I did do a very tight cover I think. My advice for the song is, well, not counting at all the 10/16 and 17/16 and similar 16 parts, they have all only 16th notes in them so you just play the riff until you run out of notes (you go through every single tone) and then you go to next riff. 4/4 to 7/8 to 6/4 is countable, the main spike here is that 7/8 and you have to play that one by feel (since weird chord durations). Djenty part is not a hard one and solo is similar to x/16 riff parts, play notes until you run out of them. It is a hard and mindfucking song, but there are harder

Break this song into 3 minutes each and you will probably cover each section one by one. It gets a lot easier.

Just follow the time signature

You need to get a math degree

Just follow the crash cymbal

Wirandika M. H. For complex definitely, but I think if you want to practice feeling odd times Dream Theater isn't the place to start. Great for practice once you get your head wrapped around it lol

any closer to the dream? i hv one too

Because of their egos. They want to show their musical prodigy, not to write simple and listenable song for general population. Have you ever noticed; every time they come with new songs, they are getting more complicated and harder for an average guitar player. This guy can play John’s pieces, he is considered top of the ladder already, except he probably doesn’t have enough money or sponsorship to get him out to people. I bet he is already in a local band making fame for himself. KZfaq is another way to get his message to the world without having large sponsors.

I agree with you

@@jaidenxiong9996 I'm an average guitar player and struggling to learn dt best of the times guitar solo

@@jaidenxiong9996 that’s some bullshit. Ever thought they just make music they like? Maybe not everyone wants to spoon fed songs that pander to as many people as possible. Bands fill their own niches and play what they want to. Not shitting on basic music just saying

I know but they are not the same

If you’re counting 0s it’s missing a beat, learned it the hard way when trying to learn this song by ear

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Counting while playing would be pretty distracting during a complicated riff anyway. Kind of impractical.

Can't you do 2 things at a time? Well , same here, but actually if you are pretty good with time you don't count at all

Bentley Roams probably not, I learned this whole song on drums and never counted out anything, it’s more of a feel thing

Bentley Roams not quite as distracting as you know singing and playing lol

Cara, eu penso a mesma coisa. Creio que o mais difícil é se adaptar às mudanças de tempo. E como fazer isso???? kkkk

Cowboy George I mean they do, but their meter use isn't nearly as syncopated and weird as this song. They do more polyrhythms and things that are almost normal but not quite to give it a disjointed feeling. And TOOL's use of time signatures is more repetitive than The Dance Of Eternity so it's easier to get your head wrapped around the groove.

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But this has 4/4 so whos the kid here?

budaroddy Find me a Tool song that doesn't have 4/4

@@hyalinamusic18 tool- accessories impartial