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DRILL and CENTER at the same time. This tool exist !

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Made by ME 4

Made by ME 4

Күн бұрын

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@mike9500
@mike9500 Ай бұрын
yea! ya centerd the stock! :) good job!! gotta love that stuck spegetti string! haha, i have done a lot of delryn over the years for powersports parts and even special tools for assembling suspension parts on powersports. that spegetti has caused me to destroy parts of not careful. it can snag and jerk the part and ruin it. sucks when it happens. last time had 4 hours on a custom seal saver and had to start over as it trashed where the part meets the shaft lip.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
It's a challenge to work with something like that. I thought that everything was happening only to me :))
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 Ай бұрын
Very nice design Jimmy. Great idea and good job. I left a post once, but it is gone. Have a good weekend. 👍
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Thank you Ed ! Have a good weekend too ! 👍
@Ideasite
@Ideasite Ай бұрын
When milling stringy plastic, use a shop vac to suck away the swarf. I make plastic parts whenever I can. Sometimes they're good enough. From that point I decide if a metal part is worth the effort. I can proceed with the confidence of having already made the practice part. Making Morse tapers is hard to get right. Machined blanks come in any attachment type for cheap & are impressively accurate. Available from China, India, Amazon, etc. I've been very happy with the quality of very inexpensive blanks.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your suggestion to use a shop vac. I bought one yesterday. But I don't know how much it will help me because the chips are wrapped around the part. I will see. As for morse tapers, it doesn't help me to buy one for this project. I had no way to join the outer part with a morse taper bought. Thank you very much for the information provided !
@pvtimberfaller
@pvtimberfaller Ай бұрын
Keep your hands clear of ANYTHING when it is moving. Those nice soft chips will wrap you up in a fraction of a second and either wrap you around the spindle or cut off fingers etc. We had a millwright get a string wrapped around his wrist and almost cut his hand clean off. Do you have a copy of how to run a lathe by the South Bend lathe co.? it is pretty much the original go to book for lathe setup and operation. They go into centering stock for turning. If you can’t move stock with that machine try grinding high speed steel tools, they take a lot less horse power. Also your tool is sticking way too far our, that will cause chatter.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the advice given. I try to be careful, but in truth there are some risks that I take unnecessarily. About our lathe... I know that I saved the manual somewhere on my computer. I will look for it and I can send it to you by email. Thank you very much for your comment !
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir Ай бұрын
Very interesting. Nice work sir.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much sir !
@skwerlz
@skwerlz Ай бұрын
Well your ingenuity is definitely in full swing. What you built here is impractical and completely overkill, but it's cool and it works. As an added bonus you hit your tolerances and got good experience. Personally I started out with and still use a "bump" centering tool, it's basically a bearing on a stick. You could use your homemade burnishing tool for this (you call it a flattening tool). You just move the tool in while slowly spinning the material until it centers itself from bumping into the tool. Once I saved some money I got a 3-jaw chuck that mounts in the tailstock to hold heavier material while I set up my steady rest.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
My steel bars are not perfectly round. The cone tool averages the circle and finds the best fit point. If I want to find the center of a part in the shape of a hexagon or square, what can I do with the burnishing tool or something like that? With this tool I can find it and drill at the same time any shape of a part. Thank you very much for your comments ! It means a lot to me.
@skwerlz
@skwerlz Ай бұрын
@@JIMMY916 Look up a tool called a "lathe spider." It's super simple and solves the problem of square/hexagonal stock with both steady rests and bump tools. I've got a couple of them I've made over the years to tightly fit different size stock I work with. As for your cone you're on to something there, it just needs refinement and iteration.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Yes, it is an interesting tool ”lathe spider”. But I don't understand how I can use it if my part has a diameter, let's say 40 mm, double the diameter of passing through the chuck of my lathe ?( My plastic part from the test have 40.) That lathe spider is only for diameters that are smaller than the hole in the chuck ? If so, I believe my concept is better :)) Maybe we can improve it together...
@skwerlz
@skwerlz Ай бұрын
@@JIMMY916 Yeah I probably got the name wrong, might be a "cat head". So many odd names for things. It's just a ring with some bolts in it to center your material. I've made a few over the years to fit common sizes of hex and square stock. As to round stock never being perfectly round - it's also never perfectly elliptical and a cone relies on the saw cut to be perfectly straight besides the roundness of the stock. Ideas to improve your design - it definitely needs shortening. A shallower cone would let you shorten the travel, making it much shorter overall. Going to a 45 or 50 degree taper would take a few cm off of it. It would also be nice to be able to remove it from the tailstock without removing the tailstock from the lathe. Maybe if it slipped off of the morse taper like a socket? Something to think about.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Yes, there are things that can be improved. Thank you very much !
@DolezalPetr
@DolezalPetr Ай бұрын
that is such a nice lathe!
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Nice and unique 😂😂
@pvtimberfaller
@pvtimberfaller Ай бұрын
I wanted one all through high school and finally saved enough to buy one. Total piece of crap. I was so disappointed. Besides awful construction (Some are actually built well) the biggest problem is the design. If you notice the tailstock doesn’t overhang the bed and so it has to be extended all the way to be used. Also because of this you can’t cut from the tail center to the chuck, you lose 2-3” on one end or the other. The mill head is too high above the table so you need a riser block to do most work plus you can’t clamp it to the column tight enough to take any kind of a cut. Still beats a hand grinder.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
@@pvtimberfaller My opinion about this combinated machine after six years of ocasional use. - - - 1 Because of the milling table , long pieces cannot be turned in one pass. 2 The lowest speed is only 160 rpm. 3 The guides are always exposed and it is mandatory to be greased very very often for smooth operation. 4 The chuck has a diameter of 130 mm. No independent four jaws for this diameter. Only 125 mm. 5 The gear change is made only from the belts. +++ 1 It is very precise and no deviation. 0.01 mm is not a problem 2 Is quite robust and heavy (about 300 kg) 3 It takes up a little space for two machines. My workshop is tiny. 4 Its engines can run continuously without burning out. 5 Its price.
@pvtimberfaller
@pvtimberfaller Ай бұрын
I forgot to add the to high of speed thing. Mine was smaller, I think the type you have came out a few years later. I had to remove the chuck every time I wanted to use it as a mill. They also had metric feed screws and imperial dials so the dimensions were never correct. They offered a planetary sheave that would reduce the spindle speed 2:1 or 3:1, I don’t know if they have that for your machine but it would be a very good modification.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
My machine is from 2016. I find out that there are many models on this kind, but there are not really identical. Some better, some worse. Mine is made in Italy and is well made. Only the concept is strange. Otherwise...
@MrSeeuu
@MrSeeuu Ай бұрын
Very impressive! Your projects and video presentations are entertaining and very informative. I have a very similar 3&1 as you, so when I watch your videos, they speak directly to my needs. Your efforts are greatly appreciated. Thank you. Btw… nice pants. 😃👍👍
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your appreciation. As for pants... It's the only alternative to the heat in my workshop. If I didn't film, I think I would give up on them too. :)) I'm happy that you like my work.
@IsZomg
@IsZomg 14 күн бұрын
lol thats crazy nice job
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 14 күн бұрын
@@IsZomg Thank you :))
@DolezalPetr
@DolezalPetr Ай бұрын
that is super smart, well done
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
@@DolezalPetr Thank you very much ! Your comments makes me happy.
@alasdairhamilton1574
@alasdairhamilton1574 Ай бұрын
Nice solution 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much !
@edwardhuff4727
@edwardhuff4727 Ай бұрын
At 45:35, after drilling axial hole, you test fit the centering tool and say "I think this hole is about 2 millimeters bigger" and "centering tool will be tightened with a screw." That would put it 1mm (0.0394") off center. Eventually I realized you must mean 0.002".
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
I didn't use the word "bigger", I used the word "deeper" I made the hole two milimeters deeper, two millimeters different from my plan. Thank you for your comment!
@edwardhuff4727
@edwardhuff4727 Ай бұрын
Oops. Yes that makes much more sense and also you were drilling, not boring. Thanks for the vicarious machine shop.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
@@edwardhuff4727 Thank you very much for your comments Edward ! I will try to be more explicit in future videos though.
@cdrive5757
@cdrive5757 Ай бұрын
Jimmy, thanks for entertaining me on this Saturday morning in S. Florida. Only time will tell if it stays true to center. At about @16:00 you were setting up Center to copy a Morse taper using a Morse Sleeve. For those of us with easy access to the spindle's Morse Taper we could simply hold the Sleeve between centers. Then we would only need the DTI to set the Compound angle. Capice? Thanks again, Wakodahatchee Chris
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
I don't have a long tailstock tip and my live center doesn't have the necessary precision for something like that. Anyway, my centers can't get that close. I don't think that another method would give better results considering the accessories and the lathe I have. Time can certainly tell us a lot, but I don't know what role it will play here. One use in cycles of 30-40 sec. I'm sure it can't cause any wear and tear. I certainly don't worry here. Thank you very much for your comment and I'm happy for the pleasant morning to which I also contributed.
@bbcmateriaux
@bbcmateriaux Ай бұрын
Somewhat a good vidéo, using the index or a brush for greasing would be a good improuvement in viewer experience. 51:02
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
My index finger had a very painful embedded chip. I couldn't use it. And I don't have a brush. I hope you can get over the psychologigal trauma I did to you. I assure you that nothing was planned. You are thinking too far... Thank you very much for your comment !
@lofingboy
@lofingboy Ай бұрын
A vacuum cleaner would help with that nest!
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
I will buy one. I know it is useful. Thank you for your comment!
@ColinLennard
@ColinLennard Ай бұрын
Fantastic! What is it for? When will you use it?
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Are you sure you understood something from this video ??
@ColinLennard
@ColinLennard Ай бұрын
@@JIMMY916 I don't own a lathe. Just watched what you were doing. The reason why you decided to make what you did - I have no idea & couldn't work out what the finished atrial would/could do, that is why I asked. Are you going to tell me why you made it & when you will be using it for.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
@@ColinLennard Please forgive me. I thought you comment was a frivolus one. I sometimes receive such comments and I always wonder why are written.!? Now I understand that this is not your case. The tool in the video helps me fix a bar in the lathe chuck and balances it for turning. That plastic cone is on the same axis as the chuck and so I can balance the part. That's pretty much the story. Thank you for your comment and I apologize once again.
@ColinLennard
@ColinLennard Ай бұрын
@@JIMMY916 Not to worry, I'll keep an eye on you to see what you get up to. when I see you using your invention I will understand better.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
@@ColinLennard I am honored that you will return to my channel
@terrycannon570
@terrycannon570 Ай бұрын
I love watching your work BUT you should never pull live chips from the rotating shaft. Even plastic can pull your fingers into the tool and remover your fingers from your hand or even remove your hand from your arm. Just ask Chuck Barbarino from "Outside Screwball" what happened to his friend that was caught up in his lathe. I will continue to enjoy and watch your videos but please do not work unsafely.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Yes, I'm sure it's not to be played with plastic either. The following video is without mistakes like this and so will all be from now on. I promise. Your concern about my safety honors me but the habit is a hard addiction to correct. Thank you once again, my dear friend !
@philoso377
@philoso377 Ай бұрын
Nice video and presentation. Didn’t we forgotten one thing? Check the round out of the new hole.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
Why do you think it would be in a different place than the right one ? Thank you for your comment !
@philoso377
@philoso377 Ай бұрын
@@JIMMY916 intension always follows by verification otherwise we learn nothing in our course.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
I don't know how I would be able to verify such a thing. No metal or plastic bar is perfectly round from the factory (with some exception). There can be no question of absolute precision at this stage. It is an approximative center. No method in this world can find the perfect center of an imperfect circle. My intention was to present more of a concept. I'm sure you can draw your own conclusions whether it's a good tool or not. That account, I assure you, makes finding the best necessary center for the live center. I will always use it from now on. Thank you very much and I'm sorry I missed to film this aspect. I thought it was obvious the result.
@philoso377
@philoso377 Ай бұрын
I agree. You lost me in going so far to make this tool to overcome a problem I’m not aware of. Your advice?
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
My bad.. Sometimes I make a mistake in interpreting some messages and I have set the expectations in an erroneous way. Our conversations contain only a few words and this can lead to misunderstandings.. I hope you will come back with other comments in the future.. Thank you very much for your comments !
@arturperreira5680
@arturperreira5680 Ай бұрын
Hello nice work but how to change rhe drill bit ?
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
There are only two screws. The first, wich is the smallest, fixes the drill bit, and the second screw (larger one) fixes the central shaft in which this drill is mounted. All that needs to be done is to loosen the big screw and take the axle out. ( we don't dismantle anything ) After loosening the screw, the spindle will be pulled out. After changing the drill bit we will insert the shaft back and tighten the screw with an allen key. I really regret not showing this in the video. I simply omitted. Thank you very much for your comment !
@arturperreira5680
@arturperreira5680 Ай бұрын
@@JIMMY916 ok make sense great work.
@JIMMY916
@JIMMY916 Ай бұрын
@@arturperreira5680 Thank you for your appreciation!
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