I didn't test the Flatline or the Hardline, did I? So me stating that the Frontline is not a bolt-on chassis is something I would call "accurate."

Agreed on all points. The stubby is only for specific builds, like this one. The Fusion Pro remains the perfect partner for a VFD/Twin.

@@CrawlerCanyonI learned this the hard way, did the stubby conversion then spent two weeks tuning it to bring it back to near parity - this weekend I reverted it back to inrunner setup. It behaves much more predictably now. As far as battle id love to bring my Artful Dodgers Pathfinder by for a comparison.

Well, as outfitted it's like $1,400, so it had better be good.

@@CrawlerCanyon whoa.. I guess so.. that's a pricey boy.. shhh rule number 2 of the canyon. Always whisper when it comes to the cost of our toys. Or risk sleeping on the couch for a while. Lol..

@@JC-Nor-Cal well, it started as a Stance, so that adds an extra $300 to the total right off the bat. There's like 40% of the rig left over. Probably more.

@@CrawlerCanyon no question... Besides the extra stance bits. What you have now is a good value for quality / capability per dollar and time spent..

I'm now seeing the S5 compound as Injora's version of Predator. It's not gonna like heat. But in the right environment, I posit that beats the XHX pin for the money, or even really comes close. You have to spend at least twice as much for similar performance. I'll still be running Comp Pins most of the time because, you know, the desert. Zero vehicles in the Canyon Fleet on Predator compound tires. I'd take S5 over Predator in a heartbeat-- same level of performance, same drawbacks, less than half the price.

That's good info to know-- but in this came, not my rig, not my radio, not my problem. He says he's going to replace the VT-1 with a Spektrum, so my interest in trouble-shooting it instantaneously dropped to zero.

Oh, never buy a Stance-- and by extension, the VRD straight kit and the VS4-10 Builder's Kit. They all offer catastrophically bad value. If you want a VRD Carbon, you'd better buy it soon, as I'm 99.9% sure it's going to get "detuned" to the same level as the awful straight kit pretty quickly.

Definitely less than what I have in black oxide. I don't buy screw kits, so my variety in M3 SS is about 1/3 of what I have in "regular" screws.

I wouldn't bother to print one, as the one I use from RPM is usually $13-14. amzn.to/3SaCykq

@@CrawlerCanyon no wonder I could not find one, I was googling link jig and what not.

How so?

@@JC-Nor-Cal should of said please when I asked to compare brazin scale pacesetter on the pro to the brazin scale frontline on the stance - curious lol

Sleeping in.

Those are just Traxxas 5347s. Lots of folks use them. Sight unseen, I'd put drag link issue in the column of improperly set endpoints. The servo shouldn't be pulling on the rod end at stall.

@@CrawlerCanyon endpoints are set properly, I did get in a small bind. But not enough to cause damage to a link end. If something won't move I typically stop and move my truck by hand. I am running 2.2 Mickey Thompson Pros, so that could be added into the issue. I appreciate all that you do for the RC community😃 I am also running a raw 500, they typically stall out before causing damage. I run raw 500s on all my Crawlers. I really like my Vanquish builds I have a rock Pirates Phoenix build no link issues . I also have a vrd carbon no end link issues. The rig that I am basing this conversation on is an OCD custom RC chassis. They are a father and son team building Universal chassis . I may have just gotten a bad one, but there are a lot of other inferior Parts out there that look the same. I will be interested to see if you ever have any issues of premature wear on your build.

"Hardcore" link ends are not Traxxas...just saying 😉

@@themountain59 Seeing as the hands-down toughest rod ends out there are off of the TRX-4, your statement is utterly invalid.

@@CrawlerCanyon I think at this point we should all just agree to disagree they may be 5347 but there isn't a single 5347 that comes on a Traxxas trx4. I could prove it if we could send pictures on KZfaq . I have put my Vanquish trucks and my Traxxas trucks through much more and much worse situations than the hardcore links went through with zero problems going on a year and a half on Phoenix Rock pirate build no link issues. Carbon vrd no issues was lucky enough to get one on the first run . And I must follow this up with I do appreciate everything you do in the RC community and I know and respect that you know a lot about crawling. But there's no shame in admitting if you're wrong. And if it could be proven to me that I was wrong I would accept that.