Drive Form Breakdown: Anti Form ~ Kingdom Hearts 2 Analysis

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5 жыл бұрын

Anti Form is an insane drive form. The attack animations are probably the fastest I have ever seen!
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@WindaYuriwiawan
@WindaYuriwiawan 5 жыл бұрын
5:47 that attack is a ground finisher when Anti is surrounded by enemies at least from all my experience fighting Sephy with only Anti leads me to this conclusion
@UncPhilly88
@UncPhilly88 5 жыл бұрын
But you can't get Anti during the Seph fight...
@elginj3410
@elginj3410 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncPhilly88 Hacks
@spartanwar1185
@spartanwar1185 5 жыл бұрын
b r u h Respect Hell just beating any substantial boss with Anti Form is a considerable feat
@WindaYuriwiawan
@WindaYuriwiawan 5 жыл бұрын
while hacking the game to get your form of choice is not a respectable thing to do, Anti is actually more fun to use against Sephy than any other drive forms. just saying
@tylersprouse6861
@tylersprouse6861 3 жыл бұрын
@@spartanwar1185 Except if it’s Xigbar. Anti-form is super useful for dodging his lasers, and it’s at least manageable against Saix and Lexaeus
@shadowldrago
@shadowldrago 5 жыл бұрын
I love how feral Anti Form Sora looks, he moves, attacks and acts like a Heartless.
@raulphilipgoco403
@raulphilipgoco403 5 жыл бұрын
ShadowL Drago well it sort of makes sense. There is a theory that Anti-form is a punishment for abusing his drive forms and depending on them for combat.
@Haloguy-mg8wl
@Haloguy-mg8wl 5 жыл бұрын
@@raulphilipgoco403 That's what's it made for. But I like to think the darkness taking over a bit but Sora still in somewhat control.
@yousefeno
@yousefeno 5 жыл бұрын
Darkness for lusting for power i guess ?
@raulphilipgoco403
@raulphilipgoco403 5 жыл бұрын
Halo4guy321 I think that’s what Rage form is because in rage form he still has his keyblade. But in Anti-Form he Attacks with his hands and legs. I think it’s because in Anti-form the darkness in sora has corrupted him enough that he can’t summon his keyblade but he still has control so he wouldn’t hurt his teammates.
@shadowldrago
@shadowldrago 5 жыл бұрын
Raul Philip Goco That isn't a theory, that is what Anti-Form is for.
@esf1934
@esf1934 5 жыл бұрын
Riku: What do you have?! Sora: Two Become One! *goes anti-form* Riku: No!
@spartanwar1185
@spartanwar1185 5 жыл бұрын
I bet people don't know what this is a reference to because i didn't at first The original meme was that one with the kid running from his mother with a knife in hand If you've seen a handful of meme comps you probably know what i'm talking about
@Oriana_Lockheart
@Oriana_Lockheart 3 жыл бұрын
@@spartanwar1185 yes
@MaybeNotARobot
@MaybeNotARobot 5 жыл бұрын
I think the coolest thing about Anti Form and Rage Form is that it shows how Sora has learned to control the darkness within him. Anti Form is rabid and twitchy, and while Rage Form shows some of that, it's more calm and controlled. Sora also has access to a Keyblade in Rage Form as well, and while Anti triggers randomly, Rage triggers only when Sora is at low health. It's a cool way to show character development!
@TheJaredPunch
@TheJaredPunch 5 жыл бұрын
funny robot Rage Form also appears in the final fight against Xehanort
@ateaibarra4790
@ateaibarra4790 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheJaredPunch yeah When xehanort extracts sora's light remaining the darkness in him
@Spitfire_94
@Spitfire_94 3 жыл бұрын
The startup animation for Rage Form also shows Sora willingly diving into a ball of darkness, so he probably uses his darkness as a last resort, but by the time Kingdom Hearts III occurs he most likely has better control over it. Pretty sure Kingdom Hearts II Anti Form will be the closest we'll get to seeing completely gone Sora, he's basically a vicious animal in Anti lol
@dance_ofThaDEAD
@dance_ofThaDEAD 3 жыл бұрын
And yet no one ever mentions it in canon. Not even Riku goes "wow Sora you have way more control over the darkness than me!"
@Spitfire_94
@Spitfire_94 3 жыл бұрын
@@dance_ofThaDEAD Neither forms have any story relevance except Rage form when Xehanort forces it out of Sora, canonically Anti and Rage form(excluding the ending) aren't canon, merely serving as a gameplay mechanic for players. I'd say Riku still has the best control over darkness, Anti and Rage are based on negativity but Riku can freely use his darkness without negative emotions or losing himself in any degree. As a gameplay mechanic, while Rage is more controlled than Anti, Sora is still vicious and not himself, far more violent and ruthless so you could say he's not all the way there.
@ernietime2229
@ernietime2229 3 жыл бұрын
Organization: Embrace the Darkness! Sora: aight Organization: some mistakes were made
@mistahjenkins4826
@mistahjenkins4826 Жыл бұрын
@Baxi That's true, but I get the feeling you could still face some of the bosses in this form, barring a few standouts... For example, Zexion, Saix, and Luxord would be completely unbeatable. Luxord and Zexion are very reaction-heavy, and Saix requires you to interact with the dropped claymores to beat him back into a fightable state. Xaldin is... A maybe. You don't necessarily NEED the reactions in his fight to win, so it's totally possible. In fact, I get the feeling it might even be easier since you move considerably faster, and might be able to dodge his Distress Move a bit easier. Most of the other fights, data fights included, are definitely still beatable, though. Either they have optional reaction commands, or they have no reaction commands whatsoever. Granted, some might be 10x harder (Lexaeus and Axel being notable), but fights like Demyx might ACTUALLY be a bit easier, given the amount of crowd control Anti-Form has.
@frostycane5134
@frostycane5134 5 жыл бұрын
One thing that always bothered me about KH is that no character in universe talks to sora about this. No ones says “ hey sora why do you randomly give into darkness?”
@SuperHothead14
@SuperHothead14 4 жыл бұрын
Story and gameplay segregation. Also, the game has him “absorb” his party members so they don’t exactly See this form since they’re lending him their power.
@ZenoDLC
@ZenoDLC 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperHothead14 If the cutscene when you get Valor is to be believed, Sora don't actually need to absorb party members to Drive
@Dyndicat
@Dyndicat 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZenoDLC shouldn't be driving yet tho. He's too young! D:
@nezbitnezbit5397
@nezbitnezbit5397 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dyndicat lololol
@xverser2574
@xverser2574 3 жыл бұрын
I agree and I never understood why, I mean it would be a great plot point and/or full story arc, like some journey of accepting every aspect of his character or something... Though come to think of it i haven't see it in fanfiction either... Spread the word let's get more on this train of thought!
@zeroblue720
@zeroblue720 5 жыл бұрын
While I liked the idea of KH3's Rage Form wielding a keyblade and thus having more control, nothing has yet to top Anti Form for me. There's something raw, primal, and savage about Sora abandoning the keyblade altogether and going all in with just scratches, punches, and kicks in erratic patterns and ludicrous speeds. Nomura really nailed the feeling of just letting your instincts go and unleashing the pain, it's really satisfying. If only it weren't so weak defensively and acted more as a punishment, lol. I really wanted to see Anti Form as it was in KH2 with bodily strikes, but better and more easily accessed. But I can gladly take Rage Form's subtle character development touches, too.
@skyhart1377
@skyhart1377 3 жыл бұрын
I can see what you mean about it being weak defensively, however I'm fine with it seeming like a punishment. I heard this once but antiform is kinda like a punishment for Sora becoming too greedy with the power of the forms, and acts a s alesson to not rely on them.
@DkKombo
@DkKombo 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would serve better as a form change if it was given chains and you did elemental damage based on what spell you cast for a short time that was channeled through these chains and your body. Id also like the idea of shadow clones like how that one keyblade from rapunzel world works but it just adds to your current attacks instead.
@sanzei611
@sanzei611 5 жыл бұрын
Sora hanging on his foot is the cutest thing I have seen today.
@mjamaya9927
@mjamaya9927 5 жыл бұрын
square: how much speed do we want to give sora? Papa Nomura: Yes
@TheKingofZock
@TheKingofZock 5 жыл бұрын
Oof..
@gtfobuddy21
@gtfobuddy21 5 жыл бұрын
Antiform does 5x more damage than lv 99 with ultima just because kicks with them shoes
@SonnyFRST
@SonnyFRST 5 жыл бұрын
wait...is that legit data or just for the shoes joke?
@eze1300
@eze1300 5 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyFRST no, sora's attack stat drops to 1 no matter what you have equipped
@lacreatura4737
@lacreatura4737 5 жыл бұрын
@Sonny FIRESTORM It's a Joke about the shoes.
@SonnyFRST
@SonnyFRST 5 жыл бұрын
@@eze1300 Then you're saying all that damage Anti-form does is on sheer hit count alone?
@eze1300
@eze1300 5 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyFRST yeah, surprisingly you can beat sephiroth with it because he doesn't get a chance to hit you all cause your hitting him in the air
@jamarcusdavis4023
@jamarcusdavis4023 5 жыл бұрын
Since the Oathkeeper Keyblade will be returning in the ReMIND DLC, I hope they'll bring back the Oblivion Keyblade with a Formchange that is a fusion of Rage Form and Anti Form.
@SonnyFRST
@SonnyFRST 5 жыл бұрын
I was rather hoping for a Two Become One keyblade. It's form-change would be One Becomes Two, splitting the keyblade into Oathkeeper & Oblivion for free access to Roxas' moveset. Then again, he will be playable during Re:Mind so maybe that won't be necessary. (Though it could be done if it turns out his gameplay segment is as short lived as the Riku/Aqua ones in the base game)
@Jay-kx4jf
@Jay-kx4jf 5 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyFRST roxas moveset seems limited anyway. he has like the one combo from his fight in kh2.
@BigM5304
@BigM5304 4 жыл бұрын
They confirmed it's something called dark form
@FireStarJutsu
@FireStarJutsu 2 ай бұрын
Your hopes became a reality ✨
@FireStarJutsu
@FireStarJutsu 2 ай бұрын
@@SonnyFRST You called it! Nice!
@marnsdnfois7006
@marnsdnfois7006 5 жыл бұрын
This was the AWESOMEST form when I was a kid. I was always so hyped when I got it.
@BioRoxas
@BioRoxas 5 жыл бұрын
I always cried when I got it xD
@racerlord2329
@racerlord2329 5 жыл бұрын
I remember I was calling it shadow sora and I trashed every boss with it as a kid ( I also sucked at using the other drive forms so I spammed revert until i got anti form the only other form I used was valor)
@racerlord2329
@racerlord2329 2 жыл бұрын
@Baxi no shit it was designed to kill you but how was I supposed to know that as a child back then many people didn’t really know either even newer people to the series who play KH2 and know nothing about it get caught of guard and don’t know what the form is until they get trashed while in it then they know it’s bad it didn’t help that I forgot kingdom hearts EXISTENCE for a long time until around 2015 going into 2016 where I first saw KH3 being in development at this point I know it’s confirmed as a punishment mechanic to make people not rely on only drive forms to win battles I just loved attack really quickly with anti form and doing a what I assumed at that time period as a child massive damage
@FBI-ju5no
@FBI-ju5no 3 жыл бұрын
For a "punishment", it sure does pack a punch. I purposefully tried to use it as much as possible.
@TheLPRnetwork
@TheLPRnetwork 5 жыл бұрын
For strategy, antiform can be very effective against silhouette Mar if you are under leveled. Silhouette Mar technically doesn't deal damage, only drops the counter, and anti form can stagger mar for long periods for about a full bar of health if I remember correctly.
@BioRoxas
@BioRoxas 5 жыл бұрын
Ya I remember anti form's long combos keeping me alive in a bunch of org battles! xD
@TheTruestZero
@TheTruestZero 5 жыл бұрын
Ya gotta love how story and gameplay are integrated with Anti-Form. First, the way Anti-Form triggers: As Sora uses his drives, he is pretty much pulling more strenght from his heart, but as he abuses this new form of power, he is in danger to pull the darkness that is inside him. For Combat: He pretty much goes feral instinct, flaying wildly with his hands and darkness tendrills, and while idle, he is like a wild beast, impatiently looking around for anything to attack while still keeping moving to not lose that murderous intent as he isn't thinking like a normal human anymore, just as a Heartless. While Nomura said Anti-Form is some sort of punishment for abusing the new Drive mechanic, it also tells a integral part of the lore of Kingdom Hearts.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 5 жыл бұрын
500% against xemnas xD wow
@Abe01-98
@Abe01-98 5 жыл бұрын
The form is cool but after triggering it, could mean either game changing or death sentence and it’s also one of my favorite forms in the whole series
@RetroRageasaurus
@RetroRageasaurus 5 жыл бұрын
I *really* appreciate that you go through the animations of each 'n' every drive form in a frame by frame manner, (especially this form, as Anti-form is my favourite one to look at, even though it's meant to be a punishment.) There are just, SOOOO many little details that one would just want to stare at, but can't because the base game is too fast XD Thank you!
@rojaedavis8367
@rojaedavis8367 2 жыл бұрын
*Villain:* Give your heart to the darkness *Sora:* Aight *Villain:* Wait, what? *Anti-Sora:* Bring that ass!! *Villain:* Oh God, no!
@TheDarkFuryKnight
@TheDarkFuryKnight 5 жыл бұрын
For people who don't know it all drive forms can be seen in the mirrors there the fairies are as descriptions the one that describes the anti form says that the darkness over takes sora just so you know.
@BioRoxas
@BioRoxas 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought those were so cool!
@SonicKick
@SonicKick 2 жыл бұрын
You know I don't really care that this form isn't optimally good, the amount of detail put into Anti-Form's Animations, and accounting for the difference in each world with a new costume is so cool! For a mechanic ment to punish the player for drive spamming, they put alot of work into its personality, attacks, and even idle animations/hanging. It's really inventive to look at.
@greysen212
@greysen212 4 жыл бұрын
Attack animation breakdowns, this is *exactly* what I wanted!
@shadowldrago
@shadowldrago 5 жыл бұрын
Sora is stupidly acrobatic.
@frozenlizard3370
@frozenlizard3370 3 жыл бұрын
He did grow up on an island.
@Grag235
@Grag235 2 ай бұрын
You know who ELSE is stupidly acrobatic? MY MOM!
@acehealer4212
@acehealer4212 3 жыл бұрын
I generally like bright and “heroic” things to dark and edgy things, but I still think Anti Form is really interesting. It’s so cool how FERAL Sora’s movements and attacks are.
@haaxxx9
@haaxxx9 2 жыл бұрын
The added detail of Anti-form where he is hanging by one foot on a ledge sold it for me!
@acehealer4212
@acehealer4212 2 жыл бұрын
@@haaxxx9 Yeah, it’s cool! There’s something… I guess “primal” about it? Like he looks kind of like a wild ape hanging from a tree. Or something like that.
@verkbut
@verkbut 3 жыл бұрын
The “WHAT I DIDNT MEAN TO GO INTO THIS FORM WTF” form
@m-g-b513
@m-g-b513 5 жыл бұрын
the "screw the keyblade" form! YEAH!!
@fittzie
@fittzie 5 жыл бұрын
Could you do a breakdown of the King Mickey moveset from KH2
@Visibletoyou23
@Visibletoyou23 5 жыл бұрын
Yo man, big respect for credit to the wiki
@tharkflark1
@tharkflark1 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always found Anti-form absolutely fascinating since coming into the series (I just recently finished all the games). I’m always a sucker for happy-go-lucky characters hitting their breaking point and gong absolutely feral. But I can’t help but wonder, and I don’t know if it’s canon or not/widely accepted fanon, but I always thought of Anti-form being a visual rep of the fact that tho he appears human, he’s still technically a heartless. Roxas, having grown his own heart while with the Organization, isn’t cooperating with Sora’s heart. Tho within the same body, they don’t quite mix, leaving Roxas still a Nobody and Sora still a heartless. I think all Kairi did was create a temporary vessel via Sora’s emotional connections with those around him, allowing Sora to appear normal and retain his human appearance. But using Drive Forms strains the vessel in keeping Sora’s human appearance But that’s just my thoughts coming into this series just a few weeks ago :P
@mr.matthews8002
@mr.matthews8002 5 жыл бұрын
Ok James you can breathe now
@BioRoxas
@BioRoxas 5 жыл бұрын
Actually ran out of breath so many times while trying to record this one lol
@aguywithgames3135
@aguywithgames3135 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the fact that he (unknowingly) forgoes using his keyblade in this form, and just busts out feral hand-to-hand combat instead. There’s something so satisfying every time he does, like in 3 where he throws them hands on Davy? So damn good. And I really appreciate that we finally have an attack where you don’t use the keyblade (Counter Kick).
@draph91
@draph91 4 жыл бұрын
Tetsuya Nomura has confirmed in an interview with Famitsu that Sora's ability to enter this form is due to his transformation into a Shadow. He has also said that "Rage Form does indeed have characteristics that are reminiscent of Anti Form, but it's basically a separate thing setup wise. Anti is based on Sora getting completely stained in darkness, but Rage doesn't go quite that far. It's based on him going into a rampage state, controlled by feelings of anger."
@Loansome_
@Loansome_ 5 жыл бұрын
0:04 Seems like when you trigger Anti-Form, it takes away all of your drive gauge, unlike other forms which take a set cost from it
@NickRyanBayon
@NickRyanBayon 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this form and how it seems with each passing game sora is gaining more darkness and control over it, in kh2 he has no keyblade during anti but in rage form of kh3 he does, not only that but it has been stated sora and xehanort are the only two people who have been able to maintain themselves as heartless and not lose control, so I have no doubt sora will continue becoming more adept at it. I love your videos, your voice is also very attractive by the way.
@mutanttepig4759
@mutanttepig4759 5 жыл бұрын
I have never seen anti-form hanging on a ledge for that long before (that's partly because I don't own the game or any of it's remakes myself).
@TheKingofZock
@TheKingofZock 5 жыл бұрын
Time to change that.
@CocoHikari583
@CocoHikari583 5 жыл бұрын
Anti form also disables the gaining of EXP.
@greyrifterrellik5837
@greyrifterrellik5837 3 жыл бұрын
The two big *advantages* of Anti-Form are it's sheer speed, both in movement and attacking, as well as the fact your attacks can't be deflected by anything while in it.
@PriceAintRight
@PriceAintRight 5 жыл бұрын
I loved anti form so much. I tried to trigger it whenever I could. When I was first playing this in high school forever ago I didn't know there was an entire system to manipulate it.
@BigBossMan1996
@BigBossMan1996 5 жыл бұрын
Every little detailed is and are appreciated by this guy
@kyoyamurasaki9169
@kyoyamurasaki9169 5 жыл бұрын
I love this form a lot. Its movement and combos, I think the "growth ability" is dubbed as "anti glide" by the community, and of course Everglow's video against Marluxia while in this form it's very satisfying to watch
@zaster101
@zaster101 5 жыл бұрын
Kyoya Murasaki it’s called anti glide in the official guide book for kingdom hearts 2 it even list the names for all the combo moves along with stating the sigils are meant to represent “dragons”
@kyoyamurasaki9169
@kyoyamurasaki9169 5 жыл бұрын
That explains why those sigils looked almost like the Dragoons nobodies, still a very interesting form
@mekbudaanimations8887
@mekbudaanimations8887 5 жыл бұрын
Yo if you could do a video on base Sora's moveset that would be awesome. He has so much. Great video btw!
@ShadowKillerX
@ShadowKillerX 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on hitting 6k
@cloudyven39
@cloudyven39 5 жыл бұрын
Lovin how it's do or die whenever this form procs 🙏
@zestyion8791
@zestyion8791 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! You just talked about anti points in about a minute, while bizkit047 took like 5 to 10 minutes! You're so good at summarizing😁
@Netherwolf6100
@Netherwolf6100 5 жыл бұрын
....This explains *SO MUCH* Honestly I kept wondering why this form would appear during Organization battles. I knew about the counter but not that it increased with boss battles Also I never paid attention to the combos. I was too busy freaking out and trying to stay alive to even notice really what I was doing while fighting. Thanks for this.
@ZoraKurosagi
@ZoraKurosagi 2 жыл бұрын
3:55 that’s because Sora is just so fast in this form, his attacks are just too quick to be seen as he is rising in the air
@faeronix
@faeronix 3 жыл бұрын
"In Tron's world, his circuits no longer glow." So.. what I'm getting is, Sora gave himself a "heart attack" (pun intended) and is half dead, kinda like a virus, a type of program that harms computers. That's either super cool that they intended for that to be the case, or I'm up having my 5am rant about how cool my brain works sometimes when it's not being full brainlet with my friends.
@ketwin
@ketwin 5 жыл бұрын
Great video once again! I've always loved anti form, even though it was always an inconvenience (did I spell that right? Lol) I love all the little details you pay attention to, keep doing what you're doing!
@TheKingofZock
@TheKingofZock 5 жыл бұрын
You indeed spelled it right. Just letting you know lol.
@ketwin
@ketwin 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheKingofZock oh lol, thanks man
@justjunior9561
@justjunior9561 5 жыл бұрын
You also get a few frames of invincibility while using Anti Form's growth ability, but the timing is extremely precise EDIT: Oh and another thing that idk if you mentioned somewhere, but on bosses where Sora is completely by himself (Roxas, Sephiroth, Luxord and regular Xemnas) Anti Form cannot be activated, and there's also a few regular bosses where guest party members (Hydra, Hades, Timeless river pete) can keep you from triggering it
@matyassara9640
@matyassara9640 5 жыл бұрын
Just Junior you cant go to anti form if you have switched party members
@kooxii
@kooxii 5 жыл бұрын
Matyáš Šára yes you can
@thebigandlazyguy246
@thebigandlazyguy246 5 жыл бұрын
I had never seen the ledge hang wtf x)
@SpookyTanukiGaming
@SpookyTanukiGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Anti-form probably has the best animation in all of the KH games.
@finisimo139
@finisimo139 5 жыл бұрын
More info for 5:30 When in the middle of a ground combo (before the finisher) you press ■. You can spam this about 2-3 times until sora can't anymore and would end his combo without a finisher (i suggest pressing the X at the end for a finisher) . Sora will float very close to the ground and be surrounded in a sphere and streams of darkness attacking enemies in a... gracefull pose? (He is almost T- Posing lol) As he is sliding on the ground. One target: Sora will attack all of the targets sides Crowd: Sora will try to attack as many targets as possible but can't focus on 1 target
@DARamosYT
@DARamosYT 5 жыл бұрын
Starts video. Hears tension rising. Like
@AngelReyes-lc4mw
@AngelReyes-lc4mw 18 күн бұрын
2:17 I think that symbol might be related to the Anti Cloak in KH DDD.
@NinjaWarotMCph
@NinjaWarotMCph 5 жыл бұрын
Anti Form: Sora's ferality unleashed when his darkness takes over his Drives, unusually powering his speed but at the cost of legit everything else. You must be just spamming X the whole time since Anti Form has a ton of parry frames to make up for the double damage received. Extremely fast and can be powerful. Only Drive that does not level up, making it pretty strong at first but weak later on(especially when you have Limit, Master and Final leveled up.). My favorite looking and strat-wise one. I love how he just hangs by ledges with his right foot and looking "Whaddup bro? U mad?" and that Normura said "this will be how close Sora can turn to being a Heartless." And due to it's *#dejavu* speed, this Drive can auto-kill any enemy once staggered.
@juansnowgaming
@juansnowgaming 5 жыл бұрын
Ive really enjoyed these form breakdowns. Will we be seeing the command styles from bbs or rikus dream eater forms from 3D?
@BioRoxas
@BioRoxas 5 жыл бұрын
For sure! I may take a break for a few weeks and cover some other characters before I start the next series though!
@f7744dread388
@f7744dread388 3 жыл бұрын
Genius video series idea.
@etherealbladerx8153
@etherealbladerx8153 5 жыл бұрын
I heard an old rumor that he had access to the keyblade. But was scrapped later on during development, but it's still in his code though
@glazcanon8593
@glazcanon8593 3 жыл бұрын
Sora's darkness manifesting in a usable form it's odd that he doesn't make any noise whatsoever.
@BlackGoldRose
@BlackGoldRose 5 жыл бұрын
Yo as much as I liked anti-form and showed Sora how much he was willing to go to save his friends, I felt like it was punishing but I could adapt to these combos, but I always felt like anti-form was just there for the sake of being dramatic in cause of boss battles, (I beat that pretty rose pettled rose hair guy with anti-form, he deserved it after chain of memories.)
@shadowldrago
@shadowldrago 5 жыл бұрын
RoseyDoesRobloxTM You're thinking of Marluxia.
@BlackGoldRose
@BlackGoldRose 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah him, I tried to be sassy haha.
@shadowldrago
@shadowldrago 5 жыл бұрын
RoseyDoesRobloxTM I would say you succeeded with aplomb.
@BlackGoldRose
@BlackGoldRose 5 жыл бұрын
Oof
@shadowldrago
@shadowldrago 5 жыл бұрын
RoseyDoesRobloxTM That's a good thing.
@garyfishback8565
@garyfishback8565 5 жыл бұрын
So do you think the mechanics of rage form reflect that sora had accepted he has a bit of darkness in him? The player has the choice to use it now,as opposed to it being a random occurrence, and you can jump out of it quickly with the finish (at the cost of hp).
@Spitfire_94
@Spitfire_94 5 жыл бұрын
If Anti Form is Sora being unhinged I think Rage Form is him having some control over his darkness. Too bad they never explore Sora's darkness. Anti Form should've been introduced as a mechanic when Goofy was knocked out during the Battle of Hollow Bastion. Sora should've tackled the ravine trail by himself with Anti Form and seeing Goofy being okay reverts him back to normal.
@BioRoxas
@BioRoxas 5 жыл бұрын
Ooh that’ve would’ve been a cool segment!
@Watch-Yisus
@Watch-Yisus 5 жыл бұрын
*sora goes anti-form* First-timer: WHAT THE F#CK Veteran: Aw sh*t Pro veteran: Nice
@Modernshinobi12
@Modernshinobi12 5 жыл бұрын
an kh2 had so much attention to detail for the time, especially with soras movements in various drive forms
@ronnelbelizar8909
@ronnelbelizar8909 3 жыл бұрын
Came here because I suddenly turned into a dark Sora and boss fights just got easier. This game is getting more and more interesting!
@parttimelazy4593
@parttimelazy4593 Жыл бұрын
I was half asleep while watching this and was pretty much just staring at the ground in the video at the start. I accidentally noticed Anti Form doesn't have a shadow.
@kooxii
@kooxii 5 жыл бұрын
FINALLY YES
@Doglover745
@Doglover745 3 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that the dark orbs that Ansem can summon in kh3 looks similar to the dark orb in anti-form's Dark Void finisher.
@Netherwolf6100
@Netherwolf6100 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap... that explains why I triggered Anti-form roughly half the time I fought an Organization 13 member without Final.... didn't realize it doubled that much
@ItetsuShikurasa
@ItetsuShikurasa 4 жыл бұрын
Here's something interesting: If you have the Japanese PS2 release of Final Mix, you can put in a mod to actually obtain Anti-form. To obtain it, you need to complete the Mushroom XIII challenges to obtain it though. I am sure the restrictions still apply when in Anti-form, but I would have to double check.
@reddodeado301
@reddodeado301 7 ай бұрын
Anti's attacks have a ton of parry frames though, which makes attacking a lot safer than you'd think
@alonsoaballay4671
@alonsoaballay4671 3 жыл бұрын
i didn't know final form would never trigger anti form so when i went angaist saïx and used final form and see that it worked i was surprised
@core36
@core36 4 жыл бұрын
antiform sora's finisher moves mostly have block frames, so if you get shot at and manage to get a finisher off (the long, wild scratching in the air for example) you can actually reflect the projectile back to the opponent. so you want to use finishers as often as possible to maximise block frames. unequipt all "combo plus" abilities and stack on the "finishing plus" abilities as much as possible. even if the keyblades dissappear in anti form, you still get the ability of the keyblade you have equipt and even the ability of the drive form you chose. let's say you chose valor form, turn into antiform, you get the ability of valor form's keyblade. using negative combo, i was able to completely skip normal attacks and immediately use a finisher making me very powerfull and almost invincible. it sucks against enemies immune to magic (sephiroth). 9/10 would use the power of darkness again.
@KeybladeMasterChris
@KeybladeMasterChris 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a way you can disable antiform?
@moreespressolessdepresso4792
@moreespressolessdepresso4792 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was the consequence of sora becoming a heartless in the game prior
@dmas7749
@dmas7749 5 жыл бұрын
4:34 that looked more like a high kick actually
@ShadowKillerX
@ShadowKillerX 5 жыл бұрын
Its really not a strategy, it's basically try to survive as much as you can until U can revert. Also in the 2nd visit on land of dragons when we first meet the sniper nobodies oh, I turned into antiform and those sniper nobody's killed me less than 10 Seconds
@cipherover
@cipherover 5 жыл бұрын
NeoShadow X finally, someone who realizes how awful this form is
@ShadowKillerX
@ShadowKillerX 5 жыл бұрын
@@cipherover oh i not saying its awful i love the form. I just wish in that moment I wanted Master Form
@DarkStarxLiveWire
@DarkStarxLiveWire 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that anti-form sora is triggered by the darkness within Sora’s heart growing as he constantly uses his drive forms as in like a grasp for more power somehow like Terra from birth by sleep?
@Valentien23
@Valentien23 5 жыл бұрын
Got a ffvii ad on ur video noice
@BioRoxas
@BioRoxas 5 жыл бұрын
Yo that's awesome! I have a breakdown of the E3 event coming out soon :o
@AmySay
@AmySay Ай бұрын
idk if this is a popular opinion, but i think anti form is SO cool, both from a gameplay perspective (if you rely on drive forms too much, you get punished by getting locked into a powerful but painful form) AND a lore perspective! it may unironically be my favorite drive form!
@dylankellman6375
@dylankellman6375 4 жыл бұрын
He's like a wild battle thirsty enemy
@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 3 жыл бұрын
0:48 *pauses* Wait, does the kh1 menu hide anti-form count or increase it
@catgilmer3660
@catgilmer3660 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly based on whim I feel like this form showing up at all seems to be like maybe a result of his unnatural return from being a heartless in kh1 because he was at that point still kinda a heartless because he was literally still a separate entity from Roxas and still able to function like a "somebody" But it's cool to think there might be side effects of his unnatural return
@andrewgarrett1356
@andrewgarrett1356 5 жыл бұрын
Can we all agree that winning with this Form was so damn satisfying back in the day? And what's more, being able to use this Form to beat a boss was like the ultimate achievement. Also, I kind of noticed something weird after seeing Anti-Form Sora fight in slow motion. He almost looks like a puppet being manipulated by someone or something else. The dark lines emitting from his body could be seen as strings.
@ToCarlosWebos
@ToCarlosWebos 2 жыл бұрын
"you are screwed" why??? I always loved that form, is it bad for the gameplay? Maybe bad stats? Does it affect to the story?
@Laggma-zj4ot
@Laggma-zj4ot 2 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough, Anti-Form has always been my best form to the point where I mained Two Become One as soon as I got it. I was always really good at dodging around so it made killing everything incredibly easy as long as I played a little patient
@dc4296
@dc4296 4 жыл бұрын
I remeber the first time I got this form back on the PS2. Was completely by accident, I think I was in Timeless River I remember being very freaked out (I was a kid), thinking "What in the HELL is going on ??" I died, of course, and never managed to get the Form again. I told my friends who were also KH fans, and they never believed me.
@trainerlsw2444
@trainerlsw2444 3 жыл бұрын
When me and my brother saw this form. We were like “Aw yeah! This is happening!”
@CocoHikari583
@CocoHikari583 4 жыл бұрын
Also you don't gain any EXP from killing non-boss heartless or nobodies.
@fingerflipbullets5111
@fingerflipbullets5111 5 жыл бұрын
Bio roxas I have a question, what is anti points, is it visible, or its it the number on the drive gauge, does it appear on screen during gameplay, I get everything else explained except what is anti points because I can't see it. Sorry if I sound dumb because I played kh2fm a dozen times and a big kh fan, but don't know what anti points is, it would help if you explained it to me on what it is and how to see it thanks, again sorry if I sound dumb 😅😓
@dotblank1198
@dotblank1198 5 жыл бұрын
FingerflipBuLLet s anti points are on an invisible counter
@deadly_oj_557t3
@deadly_oj_557t3 3 жыл бұрын
I remember how confused I was when it activated
@skyjutsu6599
@skyjutsu6599 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like Ichigo Kurosaki's hollow form when he went Vasto Lorde =D
@ZoraKurosagi
@ZoraKurosagi 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about anti form, I can understand why people hate it, but also I can’t understand because it’s so COOL
@NoahRogers19980618
@NoahRogers19980618 5 жыл бұрын
I love this form too.
@Emu-
@Emu- 2 жыл бұрын
Sora: Imma about to go Sicko mode! Watch me Donald!
@spartanwar1185
@spartanwar1185 5 жыл бұрын
If Sora's forms were organized onto a DND alignment chart I can pretty easily tell you Anti-Form would be chaotic evil Edit: And now that i'm thinking about it Valor would probably be chaotic good, (but might also not because the name of the form says otherwise) And Final would probably be lawful good, and then the last three (Limit, Wisdom, Master) would probably be their own mix of the good alignments, i suppose
@barsabe
@barsabe 5 жыл бұрын
Can you breakdown base forms of Sora?
@akirandrake414
@akirandrake414 3 жыл бұрын
I wished Sora mastered anti-form enough to actually use it purposely. Rage form is cool, but I like the feral feel of anti-form. It has so much more potential.
@zeronixtheyoutuber3983
@zeronixtheyoutuber3983 4 ай бұрын
Looks like Nomura took notes from Berserk
@dank6941
@dank6941 4 жыл бұрын
Ok imma be honest, when I was a kid and I got this I was so excited, but when I restarted a new game for fun and I got anti-form during a boss battle, and it was ass, bro you can’t interact with the triangle button and you take more damage when using anti form, I hate it and love it, I hate it against bosses, I love it just cause it’s bad ass and it’s hype.
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