So true. That was my experience as well. I spent a lot of time unlearning the bad habits I had learned. Thanks for the feedback!

I have the off every time with my buggati chiron sport and every match I take hunders of damage cost

@@tlou2ej157 oh dang

Awesome! I’m glad I was of help to you. Thank you for the feedback, means a lot. 😎👍

I took 1 week to drive without brakes but sometimes I go oftrack lol

I really like hearing from you Larry. I really like that my videos have helped you. You are a testament to the fact that age doesn’t really matter in this game. People a lot younger than you complain that it’s too hard due to reaction times at older ages. In fact I think I was using that excuse when I was in my early 40s! 😂. But then there’s Larry, tackling and learning no assist driving in the retirement years. You make a fabulous point. You find speed out of the corner by approaching the corners carefully and in a calculated manner. Too many people plough to the corners fast and then can’t understand why they’re so slow on the next straight section. I think racing is almost entirely about the corners. It’s pretty easy to drive in a straight line. Thanks for your input and support Larry, I greatly appreciate it!

Yup, that’s exactly what I found too. It’s hard to notice on a corner here in a corner there. However by the time you get to the end of the lap it all adds up and makes a big difference. Thanks for the input!

Wow I've just started 3months ago Needs to learn without assists, asap😊

That’s good to hear. It’s a wonderful accomplishment. It’s also a lot more like actual Racing. You’ll have a lot more fun out there. Thanks for the feedback. 👍

Tilt B is so much better than tilt A 😁

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Thanks! That is an actual clip from the original Frankenstein movie. But don’t tell anyone. 😉😁

@@ME7_RR3 𝓣𝓸𝓹 𝓼𝓮𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓽 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻😂😁😎😜

You’re welcome! Glad it helped. Interesting thing about traction control is that it pretty much only comes on when you lose traction. However it’s probably slowing you down a bit off track. When I was first learning no assists I would wait until I was far in the lead in some cup race, pause the race and turn off assists. Then if I got in trouble I would just turn them back on until I had the lead again.

Thanks for that feedback! That McLaren MP4-C is a monster of a car! For that particular car there is a night and day difference between driving with Assists and Without. It’s a difficult car to master but one of the most amazing cars in the whole game. It also has the biggest earning potential. You’ve probably seen this video because you’ve been around for a while but I’ll share it with you just in case. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9CfqLicptjFeqs.html thanks for your feedback!👍

You’re welcome. The trick you mentioned can actually be used a lot. There are many shallow corners in the game where brake assist will turn on when you don’t need it. I used to pause the game, turn it off, drive through the section, pause the game, turn it on again. I eventually got so sick of doing that though, it was a big reason why I finally learned to race without assistance. I was trying to huge currency in the 10 lap Le Mans race but then I kept wasting time by turning assist off. Anyhow, it is still a great method to use when you’re trying to win cars or are in more currency in time trials. Thanks for sharing! 😎👍

That’s a good point, increasing steering sensitivity for certain tracks. I ended up doing that at Monaco as well, after several people suggested I should. Monaco made me feel like I was going to fall out of my chair because I was twisting my phone so much 🤣. I ended up doing the same thing, increasing my sensitivity by 2 notches. Thanks for the input!

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That’s a good point. The pre-2019 F1 cars are very unforgiving but those 2019 and 2020 ones have been fabulous.

Just practice

That thing is very tough to drive... If you go in too hot into a slow corner, you will skid

Same here it's just very hard to drive I'm at stage 5 now

how much does it cost?

@@yahiadounane898 it costs 880 golds. You can gain it from archive events. The event has recommended pr. You can do with very little upgrades but it can get very tough.

Hi there, great comment! I agree with everything you said. I’ve tried some other mobile games but I find the handling or lack of it frustrating. I’ve play games where no matter what you do the back and won’t spin loose, that’s just not real. Of course you don’t want your rear ange to spend loose but I’d rather have that then just have my speed go down without any visual indication of the mistake. Staged pedals would be interesting. I don’t think they could add it to this game, would probably have to be done from scratch. It’s very interesting though.

LOL 😂🤣😂🤣. That was extreme!! I had to keep throwing what I have learned out the window. Even then, other people figured out more and I made a special video with someone else’s footage to demonstrate it. Of course, I got his permission ahead of time. Cars like that just break the rules that we know and I love it!

That’s the best thing you can do, start early. It was pretty difficult for me after racing that way for 18 months. However it wasn’t really that bad once I just dove into it. I also found I enjoyed the game so much more afterwards.

@@ME7_RR3 traction control was the worst, you couldn't even take another line, it would be too difficult

Great point, I totally agree. That track is WAY faster with all assists off, even in time trials.

Thank you for the compliment! Unfortunately, I played the game for 18 months before I made the transition so I had a lot of bad habits. Much better to do what you did and transition sooner. Fabulous advice about collecting extra rewards, I totally forgot about that as I maxed out all my rewards several years ago.

@@ME7_RR3i have 7 years playing with low assist tilt a, this week tried to made a different set up, tilt a manual brakes at le man track. First day was very hard but now im matching times that i did with low assist. But still im finding hard with those braking points, need to memorize them before even seeing the curve lol

@ME7: I have a problem of constantly feathering through the corners for brief intervals as I want to carry as much speed as possible , however this costs me a lot in terms of sometimes loosing rear , taking longer curve. How do you manage to carry so much speed in WTT in fast corners !? Is there any trick ? Or is it just experience and skills.👍🙏

Hello Michael, great to hear from you. This is a really long answer and I hope you don’t mind. I really can’t answer a question like this in a short way because I would be doing it an injustice. Also, I really appreciate your support and comments so I’m giving you the best answer I can. I could honestly do a one hour plus video on some thing like this but it just gets so difficult sometimes to figure out how to demonstrated, talk about it, edit it. Anyhow, let’s get into this: As far as feathering the throttle, I know exactly what you’re talking about. When I was a tilt A driver I used to feather the brakes through the corners. So then when I switched to Tilt B I ended up feathering the throttle a lot. However then I noticed that the faster drivers didn’t do that. So the trick is to find a place where you can go full throttle and keep it that way. The sooner you can go full throttle the better. If you’re feathering a lot in the corner it implies that you don’t feel like you can go full throttle yet. I would argue that you were braking too late or getting back to the throttle too early. However another factor is that you might not have the optimal trajectory through the corner. I’ve got an over simplified reference I heard once from NASCAR of all places. There’s a particular track where Kevin Harvick substantially outpaces the competition. It’s because there are some bigger parable type corners and he would brake early, coast for part of the corner and then get back to the throttle earlier than anyone else could do. Even though everyone else has access to his in car camera, they simply couldn’t match what he was doing. Darrell Waltrip said something so interesting and so simple. Brake and get your steering done early, then accelerate out of the corner. But that’s exactly yet. Get your steering done as you’re approaching the centre of the corner. Then you want to be able to straighten out that steering as you hammer down the throttle. You can have the perfect braking point but if you have the wrong trajectory it won’t matter. That is the one downside I found of a lot of braking point videos, they just show you when brakes go on, they don’t tell you that your car has to be exactly where their car is on the track, exact speed, exact angle, exact left to right orientation. The best thing you can do with braking point videos is use them as a reference. I would get on the brakes a little bit earlier than you see in braking point videos and then drive it in deeper and deeper each subsequent try. Lastly and probably the most important, give yourself permission to fail. I probably should’ve started with that! Give yourself permission to crash way more than you succeed. That’s the way it is in real life. People who win have actually lost more than a lot of other people. They just don’t let the losses intimidate them or defeat them. By the time you see a time trial Video from me, I have failed at the first corner probably a minimum of 50 times. And then I fail at the 2nd corner, then the 3rd corner… And so on. There’s no way you can replace the need for individual trial and error. A beautiful part of this game is that you can race peoples ghosts. The downside is of course the hacking. Honestly though, there aren’t that many hackers in the big picture. I’m saying this because you can pick some people to race against and learn a lot just from being near someone’s ghost. Just the other day a fellow asked me to place a time in the Porsche 919 Evo time trial at Le Mans. I started following his ghost. He was beating me by 0.4 seconds at the first chicane, and he had a car with less upgrades. It took me about 15 minutes of experiments to find out how hard I could push the car through that first section. I found that my braking point was wrong because my trajectory was wrong. Soon I was exiting the corner with a 0.3 second gain which means I improved by 0.7 seconds at the very first section. On a track that big you can imagine how much of a difference that makes!! What I learned from corner one I instantly applied to the rest of the track. That is that I could drive it deeper than I thought and that I would need to pay very careful attention to my trajectory. In a monster like the Porsche 919 hybrid Evo you have to get back to the gas as soon as possible. Mind you, that really is true for every car. 100th of a second delay getting back to the throttle can end up costing you tenths at the end of that next straight. I hope all that helps you. All the best to you out there on the track!

@@ME7_RR3 Thanks ME7 for such a detailed and informative answer. Thanks for taking out some time to answer my question , much appreciated . 👍🙏 PS : here's why i asked this question : After going assist free I had higher expectations for myself like doing group A timings , I barely make it to group B that too lower group B and not always. 😅

That is the best way to start. 👍

That’s still frightens me. I’ve tried at some times but I really prefer the ability to correct my skin so quickly with tilt B. I’ve noticed there are several top time trial drivers who use tilt A. It is a really good setting for endless endurance race is because you can relax your hands and wrists more so. If I’m doing the Ferrari FXX K at Porsche Short then I use that setting quite a lot. But for the monster MP4-X I still like Tilt B. Maybe someday I will feel that I’ve mastered that race enough that I can actually switch to tilt A. 😃

​@@ME7_RR3 Trust me It's not that hard. Sounds scary and takes some time getting used to it. It forces you to be a better driver who thinks on and focuses how to take the corner correctly, not how to react when you take it incorrectly. I also heavily recommend using your left hand for braking just as you do in tilt B. Once you learn to do it it feels the same as turning more assists off and it even improves your tilt B driving. It makes the most difference on the mp4/x because it has so much acceleration and braking thus is the most sensitive to end of braking and start of acceleration points and It practically saves time on lemans endurance shortcuts. You won't regret it at all

Im trying tilt a without brakes at leman, should i switch to tilt b without assist or directly try tilt a without assist?

@@serxhiokasa3665 always go tilt b when moving to no assists for the first time. for a long while it will be more than enough to get the best lap times you could anyways. Once you can go at the pace of group c in at least 2 cars for every track then you should try moving onto tilt a. Also make sure traction control is off along with the rest of assists

@two_number_nines I actually don’t like tilt A myself. I find tilt B gives more control. There are times I want to lift for a microsecond versus hitting the brakes. Then if we’re not talking about time trials, tilt B gives you an advantage in skid and accident recovery. Of course I’ve seen amazing drivers using both control methods. 😃

And the main benefit is you can experience more realistic interaction.

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Nice!! 👍 Very late in the video I mention about leaving Steering Assist on in most cases being fine, around 8:15.

@@ME7_RR3 ok, still hoping someone can give a real proof SA off in TT's is better than low. But I guess that is very complicated as most who drive with a certain setting are not as good with a different setting just because they are not used to drive with that setting. Which makes testing and comparing very difficult.

EDIT: this is a very long reply… I didn’t mean it to be but I guess I just got talking. I’ll just say now that I appreciate your input and enjoy your comments. 👍 What you said is totally true. For instance, I am a complete and utter joke if I use wheel B controls. However I’ve got a friend who is absolutely amazing using that setting and can substantially outpace me. Until I saw him racing I would’ve never believed it was possible! However he post videos on Facebook and it’s right up there with the top guys. He is “Nik K” in the game. If you check out the shock and awe series for the Volkswagen he currently has the number one time in both time trials! 😲 I actually don’t think that no assists is better than steering assist low for time trials. In fact some people are incredible with steering assist high. Go back a few years ago when Radutan and Zimfrank we’re at the top of the charts every week. ZimFrank was almost always in the top 5 and I know for a fact that he used steering assist high the majority of the time. All that was to say that in some situations it’s what you’re most comfortable with. So I am agreeing with your point, it’s basically whatever you’ve mastered I think. However a lot of people want to reach that no assist status I guess. So that was the point of this video, teaching people how they could get there if they really want to. I personally find that all steering Assists alter the car a bit in a way that I don’t like. If I used steering assist low enough I’m sure I would adjust to the parts that I don’t like. However I also don’t like how it affects my off-track driving in a pretty negative factor. I am the kind of guy that would like to have one way of doing things for the majority of the time. So that way there are no surprises for me when I jump into a time trial Competition. Sometimes I want to to spin around and drive backwards for a while, sometimes I want to spin donuts for a while or do different types of nonsense. No assists gives me the freedom to do what I want, to when I want to. That doesn’t mean that it is the one right way of driving. In fact one of the things I hate the most about this game is when people say there’s a right or wrong way to play it. I’ve had a decent amount of angry messages and even hateful messages because I drive off track sometimes. I find it downright hilarious because the option is, go spend actual money on this game. I show people ways to earn massive currency in endurance races and they get mad that I’m off track without getting the point. I don’t really have time for most of it anymore. I spent a lot of time trying to help people understand but I think a lot of them just don’t want to. I was honestly surprised when the developer started putting my videos showing this right in the game. Since they are the creators of this game, they determine what is right and wrong. Yet the silly people still want to be silly! So yeah man, race how you want race and enjoy the game the way you want to enjoy it. Don’t let anyone tell you that your way is wrong or that you’re not good enough. We have too much of that on the world right now.

Any setting will work but they will definitely limit your abilities. Traction doesn’t have a low setting so I’m guessing you mean on. Then you said assist low, I’m guessing you have both steering and brakes on low. Brakes on low isn’t horrible but it actually will still put the brakes on sometimes when you don’t need them which means you’re giving up time. Also, they almost always come on too late. that’s why you end up thinking you need traction. Brakes low is OK as a safety net while you are transitioning but you really should get used to putting on the brakes yourself. At Hockenheimring brake assist low will come on three times when you don’t need it in cars that have better grip. Steering assist Lowe is fine unless you ever want to go off track on purpose. I still find it limits me in just a couple of places on a couple of tracks but that’s not a big deal. Sensitivity 4 should be great. I think it’s a good balance.

I think it’s worth the time to get a better experience out of the game. It’s a good idea to experiment with your steering sensitivity as that can really affect things. I’d say start on 5. If it feels like you’re working too hard to turn the car in the corners then move it up by 2 to 7. But if you’re over steering then you should drop it by 1 or 2. I generally recommend that you only change the setting by a maximum of 2 and try it out for a bit. IMPORTANT: make sure you calibrate it once you pick a setting. Honestly, I would start with Tilt B and get used to using gas and brakes. The calibration button is right there when you’re looking at the control options. Good luck and happy Racing 😎👍

Turning steering assist off and setting steering sensitivity up By 2 from The default sensitivity makes it feel Like there’s no change except Your faster

Nice! I know some people who are better than me at time trials and use steering assist high. For time trials on most tracks it’s not a problem. I find steering assist to be more of a problem when racing in difficult traffic and especially in Endurance Races where I’m taking off track cuts. Of course, these are race cars and not lawnmowers but that’s sometimes how I drive. 😁

You certainly don’t have to do that. It’s a target that a lot of people want to hit so that’s why I share it. There are some really amazing people using the same settings you do. I know for a fact that some of the top 50 and even top 25 racers use tilt A with low steering assist on.

@@ME7_RR3 I'm with you. I'm happy with where I'm at, and if I end up in a better position then that's just a bonus. Good to know the top guys have the same set up. Bad to know that means I just suck since I can't catch them, HAHA!

Yup same but I use no SA, low brake assist and traction control off.

Lower sensitivity can make you faster but 0 might be too much. 0 is too much for me in most cars. I only use it for open wheel cars that are pre-2019 like the McLaren MP4-X, MP4/4 and some others. My standard setting is 2 and has been for a while. However 5 years ago it was 10! I noticed a lot of the top Drivers used low sensitivity so I slowly started to lower it. Funny thing is, I need to run sensitivity 1 for pretty well all Aston Martin’s. Sensitivity 2 is just a little bit too twitchy for me and I find that I lose the car in corners, the back end will step out easier. So that’s where you might find more speed is coming out of the corners. I find it’s good to do really minor setting changes because then the learning curve isn’t too bad.

@@ME7_RR3 Thanks for the info, good to know lower ss is better. I didn’t know ss affects speed, thought it merely depends on players’ habit. I have been driving with ss5 for very long time and should have developed a strong muscle memory already. Let me see whether I can adapt to lower ss or not :)

Yes, that was where I started as well. If you’re using brake assist low then you have to back up the automatic braking point by at least a few car lengths. Thanks for your feedback!

That makes sense to me. Steering assist low does not interfere very much I find. I personally don’t like it but I have seen it work for a lot of people. I don’t notice it too much when I am on track but I do sometimes find it resists me when I am off track. However it is certainly a lot better than steering assist high.

Steering assist low shouldn’t hurt you unless you want to drive off track. If you ever do want to try turning it off, the first thing you do is go over into steering sensitivity and increase that by 2 or 3 notches. That will help to make up for the missing input. Brake assist low certainly hurts you as it brakes too late. You could leave it on as sort of a safety net and start applying the brakes earlier. I still don’t like it though because it will come on sometimes when you shouldn’t have it on at all.

There’s nothing wrong with using them, it’s just you will be quite a lot slower and less competitive. You also have to spend more currency in special events to win cars. In real life racing there’s no assists of course.

I would think it would be really good. My first two devices were a Samsung Note 4 then Samsung S7. Both were really good to play on. I have no experience with the S 23 so I don’t know. It might be that you just have to brake a little bit earlier unless it is random and unpredictable. In general people do tend to break too late if they’re used to assists. Brake assist Low will generally brake too late, then traction control kicks in and it’s all lost time. Raking earlier is good if you can find the balance.

On some cars it can help to lower the steering sensitivity. I lower mine by 2 for some cars, helps me to control them.

Very nice! The game opens up more without assists on. I have more fun that way.

@@ME7_RR3 same, when i had assists on it really feels like i was really slow but i thought i was fast because bots are really slow on the road collection series, i feel way faster with assists off but i still make mistakes , i somtimes over steer and drift to the grass but practice makes perfect

In some tracks it’s actually not too bad but on other tracks it will really hurt your time. COTA is a great example of a bad track for steering assist. It wants you to take a very precise line through the sharp corners and it’s just the wrong line. It also has a small amount of traction control in it which can eat up some time on certain corners. The easiest way to get used to no steering assist is to increase your steering sensitivity by 3. So if you currently run sensitivity 3 when you have your assist on high, turn it up to 6 when you turn off the assist. Most people find that it will make up the difference. Then as you get more comfortable to that steering setting you could slowly lower that. You don’t have to but usually a lower steering sensitivity will allow you to be a little bit faster in the corners as it won’t be as abrupt or jerky.

@@ME7_RR3 thanks

When you turn your steering assist off go over to the control settings and increase your sensitivity by 2 or 3 notches. So if you normally use 5, increase that to 7 or 8. That helped me during the transition.

I only tried a driving simulator program once and it was horrible. There was a little bit of lag which just made it impossible for me. I do know of some people that have spent some more money to get a better set up and that seemed to work for them just fine. Steering sensitivity is a bit of a personal thing. In general you will have more control with lower numbers. However I certainly know some amazing racers who used higher sensitivity. I can also vary a little by device.