You're absolutely right. The reason why we filmed this comparison was because of the slanging match between Nissan and Porsche. One of the cars used during development of the GT-R was Porsche's 911 Turbo, but Nissan found early on that the GT-R could already lap more quickly than it - so they turned their attention to the GT2 (which really ticked Porsche off). It's quite amusing to look back on it all now..

Chris has the gift of gab. I don't want to see split screen driver's perspective through the front window. I want to see the suspensions squat through the corners and catapult out of the apex with some cinematography!

Great video!

Did you actually listen to the description of the lap ? Agreed there are different styles off driving for different cars, but under the conditions Chris did a very good job. Mind you, you could probably go faster in your civic/nova etc...

I'd like to know where I was wrong. Nissan openly admitted they built the GTR to compete with the Porsche as it was their benchmark to beat. The only difference is that Nissan put their engine in the front.

Go and read the entire test, the track was WET and despite of this, they ran faster with the RWD GT2 than with the AWD R35, and another important thing is that, after one lap, R35 brakes were out! Porsche's ones were exactly the same as at the beginning so imagine on a dry track, after 4 or 5 laps...

There is something you don't understand, the track was wet and the RWD GT2 won against the AWD GTR: this mean a lot! He also say that he did his best with the GTR and this would be very hard to do better BUT he also said that he hasn't got enough skills to use the full potential of the GT2 so think about it!!

@steflotti105 No, actually, technically the are both similar, 911 turbo and GTR that is. They're both 4WD, they're both turbocharged 6 cylinders, they both have dual cluth automatic gearboxes, both packed with technology. And the key point is, GTR came AFTER the 911 turbo. They're both amazing cars, but every reviewer says that GTR feels artificial and not fun, and 911's have always been known to be the most fun cars to drive. For every day use I'd get the GTR, but for tracks I'd go for GT2.

@TheVtieg6 The limiter is removed automaticaly by the GPS system

does this dude race cars? cause he seems like a pretty damn good driver

no one came even close to Suzuki's time , that's why everyone says Nissan didn't use a stock GTR on their tests.

@vitessemeister I just bought the last EVO ( with Harris as a driver-journaliste in it) and he try the last Audi R8 GT3, despite the fact he is a Porsche Cup Racer, he says that the Audi is better than his own Porsche so I think we can say he is VERY neutral!

the video was done a year before he gets any contact from porsche (at least official)

since you mention my name I might as well clear somethings up. I apologise for being a bit agressive, but I never said Porsche is not the best cars ever made. But sometimes I do really can't help talking to people saying Nissan did fake laps claiming to be quicker than the Turbo because Porsche couldn't do it, thus why I mention Bruno Senna, as a FACT, to those opinions back. yea the 2002 911 does rock and you didn't think I was going to say that because you think I was a fanboy. BTW R34>R35

well said

Yea that was when Porsche can't even lap it faster than a turbo. But the funny thing is, Bruno Senna (GP2 driver) lap the GTR quicker than a turbo in 5th gear show... 5th gear don't stage like top gear and Bruno can drive for sure. So what happened to porsche? I'd like to know...

to be honest I really want to hire someone like sabine or anyone that neither side do the laptimes and settle this once and for all. I don't quite rely on this video much.

Anyone who has driven one or neither of the cars needs to think very carefully before commenting. because (like me) that means you know nothing about the difference between how both cars feel.

the nissan gives you more confidence with the porsche because you know the porsche rewards skill or lack thereof. the nissan is a robot

@Blitz3086 i beg to differ...i love both cars actually..n i think the both have there plus/minus moments n things to nit pick about but..if you think every car maker either, uses the same stuff or targets there competition...porsche included

@vitaobatera 7:55 is not a horrible time...have you even been on nurburgring? Its not as fast as 7:2x records for these cars, but its very fast. These laps werent done by prof. drivers in cars they're allowed to destroy for the sake of setting a lap record.

I've really enjoyed all these comparisons to the GT-R, and don't really understand the negative reaction I get from pro's that are coaching drivers. Does anyone know if Nissan produces a factory race car, stripped out and lighter, roll cage, etc with the GT-R?

Porsche have never lied concerning its cars lap time on the Ring, Nissan does, and from 25s, which is huge....and I think Porsche will sell more GT2 than Nissan will sell VSPEC or even GTR...

Yup. The only way to breakdown a porsche is to drop it 50 feet from a crane.

@Blitz3086 dont be stupid.. nissan used porsche turbo as a baseline for performance.. not for technology,.. you will probably find very little is similar between to the two cars systems

U gotta love that GTR

With respect, your time is a LOT slower than SUZUKI'S time in the GT-R

550HP? WTF did you hear that? I doubt the rest make sense

yes I know that. Chill the fuck out. I'm just adding an argue point for those who just yap about Nissan did it with fake tyres. My arguement has nothing to do with GT2.

If you read the article on DRIVER REPUBLIC, you will see that the track was wet...and don't forget that the GT2 is a RWD monster with 530hp BUT it is faster than a sophisticated AWD GTR which must win in these conditions. Another interesting thing: after this lap, the GTR brakes were out, the GT2 ones were OK...you got what you pay for and Nissan, despite the fact I loved the R33 and R34 are liars! nobody can lap the Ring in 7.29 with a stock R35.

the last I've heard is people dynoed 507hp to the fly (406 to the wheels), but which they found it's 485hp in a more accurate dyno...(so can you provide some source of where you heard that?). Also I didn't hear that Nissan admit they used cup tyres. and to Kheops63. I'm not trying to talk BS. I'm just trying to add argument about porsche's time. Because it's strange that porsche lapped a turbo quicker than a GTR and a GP2 driver did it in the other way round (REGARDLESS of this video).

Wait for 991 GT2 or GT2 RS rubbing out the smile on your GTR's face.

Not really, it was a lot of hype and marketing, though it was very good considering everything else it does.

That would be the case if Porsche shared all of their R&D. Sadly, no car manufacturer is that generous (or stupid).

hasn't the gtr smashed all records on the nurburgring constantly?

Do you mean 1. Porsche, BMW 2. Everything else 3. Merc

VS the new 991 GT2 :)

But even in my small country, in North of France, I see 1 Porsche a day.... People prefer buying a Legend instead of a Playstation on Wheels....

@CitizenSlide : BS - They couldn't be more different. The GTR doesn't "feel" like anything, as the driver aids are doing all the work. You sir are full of it.

there are two types of cars on this planet: 1. Porsche/benz and bimmers 2. the rest!

Only a few.....i have an old 996 GT3 and before it, a 964 C4.....If you think a Porsche have an horrible exhaust note, don't ever drive a R35....

At least, somebody who understand something....I'm bored reading shit about the GTR, a great car for sure, but not as good as they say.

The body, maybe, BUT the gearbox, clutch and drivetrain can't! More than this, on the R35, unlike the R32.R33,R34, you can't change turbos so for the 1000hp, we will see this in 10 years...

@Blitz3086 And for good they CAN do it better !! 7:55 is a horrible time lots of videos w 7:2x ....

Porshe cars are lightyears ahead of Nissan. Nissan act like they have something to prove, whereas Porsche have dominated on the road and more importantly, on the track for the last 40 years +

Porsche rules!!!

WHAT you on about the GT2 Brunno Senna drove the 911 Turbo and the GTR and if you watch the VIDEO the GTR WON by half a second FACT!...

not too bad for about 8 min lap time, better than me for sue. see my gt2 on the ring: /watch?v=lr-ui_OX4fg

Dont forget that Nissan used the Porsche Turbo as a baseline for the GTR...so pretty much all the credit can go to Porsche for doing all the reseach for Nissan. Damn Japanese... cant make anything thier own these day, they just copy everyone else's idea's really...

Porsche naturally wins... more powerfull, less weight...more car RWD. And not the Porsche is more expensive. The nissan is it cheaper because if they were closer, few people would buy a Nissan instead of a Ferrari or Porsche. And more, porsche has better build quallity and more fun to more..

7:29 wasn't did with stock tires. Nobody in an independent media has obtained under 7:50 time with the GTR. Nissan=Liars.

Ya don't buy these cars for practicality.

Stupid comparison, imo. The Porsche costs over $100000 more than the GTR. The fact that the GTR is able to put down such a solid lap time puts the Germans to shame. I'm sorry, but 100 grand to shave off less than 7 seconds (less than 1% difference between the two times) is ridiculous.

Bullshit. GT2's engine is cleaner. The exhaust air is cleaner than the air entering the engine. Everybody knows Porsche makes the cleanest engines, only you don't...

:O Nissan must have cheated :S

That's a porsche driver. he wasnt driving the r35 as hard as he should have. compare it to the 7:29 video and u can see wat i mean. Porsche driver=fail! wat a wuss.