Good to know! Thanks for sharing!

Yeah the strength is pretty amazing! I appreciate your comment!

Won't that crack as soon as you drive on it?

That's really interesting, was wondering how portland cement may do vs. sand / other dust? My concern would be that the gravel may visibly crack or separate? In that case the gravel, plain, may be the way to go aesthetically. I really appreciate your insight and suggestions! Subscribe if you haven't to see how this progresses along!

I think they want the easy draining effect of gravel.

Haven't tried calling a material co. directly, however that's a good option at the right price! One thing I did notice with the gravel selection was that the bulk gravel was not consistent in color and type of stone (same sku#) from bag to bag. Something to really consider if you want consistency as different batches maybe different. Going to the store and seeing it myself I was able to choose bags from the same batch while loading. The difference between batches (bags) was very significant, from round pea gravel to sharp crushed cement like stone -- all sold as the same product. I appreciate your comment and insight!

You're very welcome! Thanks for the feedback!

I couldn't imagine 45 deg. driveways?! Thanks for the comment!

In 2015 I moved from Florida to Tennessee and have yet to see any flat land other that an airport. 🤣

Thanks for the comment, for sure would be great for your shed!

Really? You should be able to buy enough ballast and cement for a shed base for about 60-70 bucks. You should really have a solid base under a shed otherwise the rats will get up from under there. Do some more research Al.

Interesting, I'll consider that for the next video!

Thank you!

Thanks for the tip!

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I appreciate the comment! You're welcome!

Thanks for the comment! That's interesting, I wouldn't have imagined rodents burrowing underneath it. I'm sure those pests can, especially if the soil is soft enough. Yes in the urban area around me I don't have that problem (never seen a Vole), however my ground is also a clay type hard soil that's dry most of the year. And yes weeds can be fierce and I'm sure make their way through; I was looking more for the foundation benefits of the thicker barrier being underneath.

Try putting down some hardware cloth/wire mesh next time to discourage the mice and voles. They recommend this under any new shed to keep critters from tunneling.

get a cat...

@@AStanton1966 You're right. Now that I think about it, I have put the hardware cloth underneath the pump house floor and have not had any problems with them. Apparently, there's no reason for them to dig under there. My experience has been mainly where I've used it around the trees, under my garden paths, raised beds, and the green house floor. They have a ready-made buffet of plant roots right there and are totally protected from any predators...including the cat. Live and learn. A parking pad would probably, also, not be of much interest to them. 🤔

I've had a 3/4" gravel driveway in the past with no base and it ended up becoming a lot of up keep. The gravel would sink into the mud and I was constantly re-applying. Also I didn't like the tire tracking/shifting of the gravel. I appreciate your comment!

Thanks for the subscription, means a lot!!!

I wanted to keep it at somewhat of a consistent 3/8" gravel stone, rather than the finer DG. I appreciate the insight!

I'm definitely looking to see how it goes over time, I'll have update videos to come. It was cheaper than the alternatives, and I believe it's good...however it for sure wasn't fast since grading the clay soil took a lot of time. I appreciate the feedback!

Not everyone is interested in making minor projects last 50 years, 10 to 20 is more than adequate for my home projects. I won't be leaving the house to anyone and I'll certainly be dead in 20 to 30 years. Why make every project a major investment, when after I'm gone, the house will be demolished, to make space for someones new house, or to make room for another ugly subdivision.

Thank you for the compliment!

Hi, I appreciate the comment! Yes, it would work great for that.

I appreciate the feedback, I'll be sure to use a better camera with those settings for the update video!

I appreciate the compliment!

I believe you can plate tamp, as some prefer to do it this way. Just be careful with the lighter / decorative stones. And I love the creativity, you can be as creative with this as you wish! Thanks for the comment!

Yes, a wonderful way to recycle plastic. I found many different versions with varying weight capacities. If you search for “permeable heavy-duty driveway grids” you’ll see lots of offerings. Some are wavy expandable meshes for parking lots and driveways. Some are recycled plastic pavers, rated at 60 tonne capacity, that weigh less than open concrete pavers. Hope this helps…

I was thinking the same thing. Great video though, I never thought to do it this way. Thanks.

Unless you wanted to save some money and return the bag for the deposit. Those bags are not cheap.

Thanks for your response! Yes the grids were purchased locally online through offerup, local classifieds. They were brand new. The ones in the Amazon link are a newer version. If you try checking around your local classifieds you may find the same earlier / similar version of these grids at a low cost like I did.

Or if you're in the So. CA area I can get you the contact info? He has 3 to 4 hundred pieces left. You're looking at under $4.00 per a grid.

Hi Sean, can you send me the info to the contact, I’m local in Anaheim.

Nice looking work! The gravel grids are designed necessary when you want to retain gravel on a five or ten degree slope. (Not really necessary on a small level area though)

You said said $220 for 58 grids but I counted 140 odd grids there?

Thanks for the comment. So you would be putting the grids on top of the blocks? That would work, but not the blocks on top of empty grids as that would make the grids fail. The grids really rely on the gravel fill to make it's solid foundation.

Yeah it worked great 👍 but I'm sure any compact car would work. If you see my expansion video of this driveway, I used my 3/4 ton truck that time. Thx for the comment!

I'm sure a ball would bounce fine however for a basketball game I imagine concrete or hardwood would be better. The gravel grid set up is better for walkways, driveways, and parking areas.

That should be fine, of course not as stable so it depends how heavy the vehicle is? I feel the grid gets stronger the more that are connected and filled. I would also try to go a little wider in case you drive off of it, which is what I did. Yes a border will definitely help with a narrow path. I appreciate the thoughts and comment!

Based on the status of the grids so far, I would only recommend connecting as much as possible, especially if it's a heavier vehicle being parked. Thanks for the comment!

@@UPKEEPWITHSEAN Thanks for the responses to my query!

It's still fairly new and I've been testing it out under load, driving an 11k lbs. trailer over it with no issues so far. I plan to make an update video once I get good rainfall here, after the ground gets a good soaking. The big issue was the area turning into a mud pit. I appreciate the comment and suggestions!

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That would be interesting to see, unfortunately I never see snow in my area so wouldn't be able to say. Thanks for the comment!

Not good!

Yes the current price in my local So. CA area is $29. Sku#: 478198

That's true. Only time will tell how fast they deteriorate or keep up to their advertised durability. I appreciate the comment!

Couldn't say how it would hold up, but it's an interesting thought. Thanks for your comment!

It would definitely reduce the cost even more this way, however I wanted to increase the strength of the overall structure and prevent gravel run-off for the most part. The great part about using the gravel grid method is that it only takes 2" of gravel depth to achieve this. I appreciate your feedback and comment!

I couldn't say how new they are, however I believe it's pretty new around here (So. CA) for DIY people. The big box stores around here don't even carry them in-stock. Thanks for your comment!

Hi, the stone is bulk 3/8 gravel from home depot. The item SKU# 478198. I recently found that apparently this SKU pricing is regional. If you're located in So. CA it's readily available at that price. Thanks for the comment!

No glue whatsoever. The grids I laid down keep everything intact. The gravel stays pretty solid with it only being 2" thick!

It will vary by how deep the covering gravel is. Of course, they probably have recommended range of installation depth which would yield a weight limit.

Would depend on the brand you decide with. These here in the video are rated at 40 tons/ sqm, which is more than enough for a car or trailer under 12k lbs. But a semi may need heavier duty grids such as #ad amzn.to/3ty45TH

I'll be sure to on my update video coming soon. Thanks for your comment!

Yes I recommend the 3/8" bulk gravel from Home Depot that comes in the multi colored pea gravel, since they will have batches listed under the same sku# that looks like crushed / chipped cement. I was in the yard looking around to get matching bags. Thank you for your response, be sure to subscribe as I will be posting up more videos!

I believe the brand on the large bag of gravel was MSI.

I also recommend the 3/8" gravel so it can travel below the grids in areas that may have not been perfectly level.

Yes this would work great for that!

If you want a super cheap method, use soil cement.

True, gravel yard is a great idea. I ended up local big box store because it's a block away from me.

Bag method kept his truck way cleaner, and could his pickup handle the weight of all the stone at once. (I owned an S-10 years ago; I knew there were things I couldn't haul without risking suspension or frame damage). I'm trying to envision dumping that bag in one go from the bed; maybe with planks under it and a helper or two, but maybe the weight is still too great to lean the bag over, at least with a full bag. "Adopt, adapt, and improve. Motto of the Round Table." -- John Cleese in a Monty Python's Flying Circus sketch.

If you lay a base of sand it will feel very strong when walking on it. That grid system has been used for over 30 years, but he has discovered a NEW process since he is from California.

Heavy rain with a barrier Are you getting any standing water and would you implement a slight slope?

@@CamMcB No standing water since the barrier is not water proof. I did grade the area for drainage then overlapped the barrier (similarly like roof shingles) so water would flow in the direction of grading. I like the barrier because it has felt on one side and plastic on the other. It helps with keeping the soil together and drain correctly. I put a link to the barrier in my description.

It looks good. I would recommend that you use stone dust to fill it in further.

@@ZXLMaster Interesting, never considered that? I'll definitely look into it!

it is crushed rock, likely granite. rounded rock does not compact, crushed rock with the angular shapes does. The 5/8" minus crushed rock mentioned is usually what is wanted for driving surfaces like a driveway, the smaller fines help compact and lockup the larger 5/8" angular gravel for a solid surface. the plastic grid helps it stay in place, and maintain a uniform thickness. Crushed limestone is only available economically where there are limestone quarries nearby, it is not as durable but has other desirable qualities. We had specifically looked for crushed limestone gravel for use in a horse stable, l but it has to be trucked from 300 miles away, the nearest quarry from where we lived, too costly so it was a no go.

The stones were sold as gravel, and do look like granite. I appreciate your insight!

Thanks for the comment. I don't believe so, at least not for heavy duty use. The grid pockets have a depth of only 2 inches making it a shallow fill. If you put it on the bottom of a 3" depth pour of concrete, maybe?

Quikcrete has a reusable grid system that you can pour concrete into their grids. Plus, you can add color to the concrete. If that's what you're looking for? I saw an ad a couple of months ago.

Yes it's under $30 a bag at the local big box stores around here in So. California.

It definitely costs a lot more if you buy them in the 10 lbs. or 20 lbs. quantities.

It costs $500.00 here in Vernon BC for the bags of gravel from Home Depot or Rona (Lowes) so $30.00 a bag is staggeringly cheap by our standards.

​@@davemeise2192 It's $1300 around here, and there are quarries all over the place here.

Had to check myself. Yep HD app shows the same bulk bag for $29 in Southern CA. In my location in Indiana, it's not available in-store or online. What's available is the same gravel by pallet ranging from $700+ to over $1000 for a pallet.

That's interesting.

What is soil-cement??

Appreciate the comment. Not at all for 58 pieces. It's available locally at the price mentioned. Email me if you're local to So. CA and I'll direct you to the distributor. Thanks!

When I do the math it's more like $960 for a 10'X20' grid

My local price is under $4 per a grid. I appreciate your response as I'll address this on my update video!

Looks like Amazon still has the best price on them unless you're local to So. CA.

I couldn't get the cost under $90 to have a truck deliver stone, especially since gas prices here are about $6 / gallon right now. The Depot store was only 1 block from me so I didn't mind. Having it dumped out of a truck would've been convenient though.

This is not true, as someone who owns property with gravel driveway. Now, most of the gravel is gone, and we're left with just clay-based soil that mixed with the remaining gravel. When it rains, we have mushy mud with sharp gravel rocks. Great for an infection if you fall into it! 😄

Woven geotextile fabric will keep the stone from mixing into the gravel when the ground gets wet, and way less expensive than the gravel grid.

@@mikeodonnell5430not on a grade of any significance

I've found that putting gravel straight does indeed sink into the ground. It would require more gravel re- applications for maintenance over time. Also leaves tracks as it's initially loose. I appreciate your comment!

If you had of put the bags at the back of the truck and simply cut them, you would have saved a whole lot of elbow grease. Smarter, not harder.

Empty bags are reusable

@@GTrainRx7 That's true if I had a forklift, even with the bags at half empty, they aren't realistic to move without equipment. Also the big box store charges a deposit of about the same cost as the gravel itself to keep / damage the bag.