Yup, he messed up big time and told himself off, bravo

I recognise the road, it's Ringinglow Road in Sheffield. If he had waited, further down the road there is a straight section with a clear view. Ideal for overtaking.

Major still its a narrow one, loads of bends and summits. I never overtake there

Not sure why all of you think he was telling himself off because clearly he wasn’t, he thinks he’s 100% in the right and it was the other car he was telling off come on people....

Kyle Shaw it was a joke everyone knows that

You beat me to it. Lol

LOL - bloody hell, he's getting his money's worth out of the roads isn't he - using every single lane on offer.

If you're a cyclist and get into the situation, well, you should be riding defensively and closing a small gap to no gap so they have to wait until it is safe for them to pass, giving you a decent safety margin. I would say, if the road is narrow and you, as a cyclist, would be holding up a lot of traffic for a while, if you can get off the road to let the traffic clear, that would be good :D

Spot on.

I simply look forward to the laws being changed to allow cyclists to ride through red lights when they aren't going to be crossing a stream of traffic, i.e. crossing the top of a T, or turning left. Studies in Paris have shown that this reduces the number of collisions. The only reason not to change the law and improve safety is that many people will simply believe 'it's not fair'. Saying that the attitude we see here is no different to the attitude of close passing motorists is clearly false. The cyclist sees nothing in front of them and can benefit progress wise and safety wise from getting away from the accelerating cars by riding across an empty junction without endangering others. There's a junction near me where, if there's a red light and sufficient time, I dismount and walk my bike around the corner so I can remount and get a clear start up the hill without being alongside railings on the inside of two lanes of turning accelerating traffic. Anybody claiming that I do that purely out of impatience and selfishness would be wrong whilst I'd be a liar if I didn't admit to appreciating getting ahead of the pack. A motorist on the other hand, performing a close pass isn't potentially benefitting safety wise and can easily see the person he's putting in danger. Whilst there may be impatience in both scenarios, the attitudes are clearly different, one happy to slow, accommodate and give and take whilst making progress, one happy to endanger a fellow human. No doubt people may disagree with me. But I'd appreciate any responses to target what I have actually said, not some bizarre interpretation where I'm somehow saying it's okay for gung-ho cyclists to plough through bowling pin pedestrians at will. There used to be a KZfaq video of a zebra crossing in Denmark. It was lovely, the flow of pedestrians was continuous so theoretically no cyclist could ever progress along the road and yet cyclists slowly filtered through the permeable pedestrians with little hindrance to either party. Such a lovely smooth interaction, whilst in the UK if a cyclist attempts to even pass behind a crossing pedestrian they run the risk of that pedestrian purposefully stepping backwards to block them to prove a point. Why manufacture confrontation? I don't get it.

@@roaduser6438 I agree that a close pass and cyclist RJL are not necessarily of same risk severity, though legally the RLJ is worse. For now obey the law, perhaps some nuance could be brought in. Turn right at American 'intersections' is such a nuance. Maybe an amber light for cyclists for a little while just before main lights turn from red could be modelled. I maintain there needs to be a period of time for pedestrians to cross and be confident that only a blue light on siren will pass RL. Pedestrians, being most vulnerable and not using a vehicle by choice should be afforded the most protection.

Another scenario I'm faced with near me. There's a short narrow tunnel controlled by traffic lights on either side. The pavement is too narrow to push a bike along unless your bike is in the road whilst you're on the narrow pavement. There are coils imbedded in the road designed to detect vehicles waiting at the lights. They fail to detect cyclists. When there are no cars the lights will never change for me. Should I... A) push my bike slowly through on the road being in the tunnel for much longer than necessary. B) just cycle through the red light and be out of the tunnel quickly, visibility is such that should any oncoming vehicle appear I'll be out of the tunnel well before they reach it. C) wait in the vain hope that a car might turn up soon behind me. D) take the 1 mile diversion along dual carriageways and through multiple junctions to avoid the whole problem. Personally I cycle through the red light. It seems the most sensible/safest option.

@@roaduser6438 I'm fortunate to have rarely encountered such an issue, I generally walk them but here walking carries some risk. I assume they don't change as routine every couple of minutes? The activist in me would call the cops every time to make a point but that's a bit cringe. If not then I would dismount, walk over the line, so I can still have pride in never having RLJ'd remount and then proceed with caution, feeling tremendously embarrassed.

Same. Also helpful in low sun situation

I always have lights on when driving. Whatever the weather conditions are. Some aren't bothering when foggy or raining

@@marekvyhnicka7172 Most don't bother until the street lights come on where I live. Even though the council purposefully do it an hour late to save money.

You can say this as often as you like but the evidence from dashcam compilation channels is that a lot of drivers think precisely the opposite obtains.

@@PedroConejo1939 Most dashcam channels are full of numpties who spot a hazard and accelerate towards it while holding their horn down to create drama.

@@adg2396 Hence the term 'dashcam warrior'. So many drivers don't realise that being involved in an accident, even if someone else is being a complete knob, is largely up to them.

Road warriors

Same, I don't know how you can. It's hard to drive in the UK fully focused, never mind distracted.

Damien Fenton fortunately my phone goes on to Do Not Disturb While Driving mode, but I would always find somewhere to park before having a phone conversation. I was hit from behind by a mobile phone using driver, who hit my car so hard, that it spun to the right fortunately, ripping both the rear tyres off the rims. I was briefly unconscious, and couldn’t sit or stand for more than a couple of hours. It took over two years for me to recover.

Confiscating their phone doesn't really help, because they'll be straight to the shop to buy another!

Confiscating their phone would be illegal, and a bit like being back at school.

@@davidbrigden4194 It's childlike behaviour, and so it only seems appropriate to treat the offender as a child. Too bad you can't sentence people to a period of being spoken to in a demeaning manner... "who's a stupid little road user? you are! oh yes you are!"

Yeah, I encountered a cyclist on a left hand bend, double whites and NSL. While indicating right to warn other drivers behind that there was something afoot, despite the bend being completely blind, some goat came belting up behind me without slowing, overtook me and the cyclist over the double white lines. Pure chance that there was no-one coming the other way because I didn't have a clear view of the road ahead so it's sure he couldn't have. If he had met anyone, the poor old cyclist would almost certainly have been caught up in the accident. Sometimes, you just can't account for people's stupidity.

Pedro Conejo common sense is like deodorant. Those who need it the most never use it. Seems it should be called “rare sense” with all the idiots behind the wheel

It's why a lot of councils have removed them death separators in the middle of the road

I've had a number of similar experiences though usually with cars towing caravans, the drivers not allowing for the caravan being wider than their car.

I actually flinched when it came passed

I've been in Scotland for 14 years now but there are few familiar places from my time driving around Reading, indeed I did much of my learning in the area in 1990/91. Was back there when my Mum was ill a couple of years back and the roads around Reading are a complete madhouse now with the theme 'every man for himself' seeming to rule. I won't be hurrying to drive in Reading again if I can help it!

Goodness Rob, we probably passed each other in our learner cars - I grew up in Wokingham but my instructor took me to Reading once I was confident enough and I took my test in Tilehurst (passed second time in May 1991). I actually found Bracknell to be worse than Reading- in later years I cycled round quite a lot until I finally left in 2003 and it wasn't too bad but there does seem to be a special breed of impatient drivers in London & the southeast...

@@MK-1973 I learnt in Wokingham, as I used to work in the unit that is now Halfords next to the station. My instructor took me to Bracknell (for roundabout practice!) and to Reading. I did my hill start practice in Connaught Road, if you could hill start there you could do it anywhere. Passed first time in September 1991 (got very lucky!). When Mum was ill with terminal cancer I was staying in the Bath Road, but getting to Royal Berks from there is an absolute nightmare having to get in the right lane of three to go around the one way system.

@@robnorth480 yes London Rd could be interesting at times. I'm sorry about your mum, that must have been a traumatic time.

Same. and on that mega scary double trailer clip I was expecting the usual. Where a line of traffic overtaking gets progressively closer to the cyclist as they cant actually see them through the cars ahead.

@@chrishughes3405 The thing is it doesn't appear to be a line of traffic or that lorry would have overtaken way sooner and we'd have heard it behind the cyclist. The lorry driver would have had full visibility of the cyclist before starting the overtake

But you can see why it creates a dislike for them having almost had one on my bonnet if I set of a second sooner and witnessed another almost be pancaked by a truck they ruin the reputation of cyclists like yourself

@@TheBoro4eva The problem here is a human one. Drivers see a fellow driver do something wrong and if it's acknowledged at all it's only in relation to that driver or group of drivers (audis, BMWs, etc). If a driver sees a cyclist doing something wrong it somehow ruins the reputation of all cyclists. And if a driver passes a cyclist doing nothing wrong they don't even tend to notice or remember. Positive reinforcement is the tendency to only remember /focus on those instances that reinforce your already held beliefs. There's also clearly some resentment felt by motorists who feel cyclists get to use the road for free (not true) and the fact that cyclists frequently make good cheap progress whilst motorists are stuck in traffic. So whilst I can see from a psychological point of view why motorists can dislike cyclists. The foundations for that dislike are generally flimsy and it's typical of what we frequently see with any outgroup prejudice. www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201012/in-groups-out-groups-and-the-psychology-crowds

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Fantastic!

It's total blind luck that cyclist wasn't killed. If the bike had hit a small stone or something it could have moved him just enough to be into the path of that trailer. Terrifying.

Imagine how easy it would have been to spin out and involve those pedestrians!

@@ashley_neal Initially i thought you were giving off about the pedestrians, so glad this comment exist to clarify it

I was thinking how he missed that in the first place 😂

Ashley Neal i thought the rule for pedestrians was to stand behind a barrier?

@@jacobg8162 what barrier?

Me too with a car transporter, he was behind me as I cycled over a narrow bridge. This led straight onto a motorway flyover. As soon as I heard him rev his engine I was saying to myself as a lorry driver this is not a good place to overtake you can't see far enough. Sure enough half way through his overtake a lorry came the other way. His instant reaction was to cut back left. I had to fall onto the grass verge to avoid being hit. If there is stuff behind me I generally pull over before the flyover and let it clear as I get noone wants to be behind me as I puff and pant slowly up the hill. People shouldn't overtake but it's me who gets injured if they do.

Thanks for the sub!

Even as a car driver over nearly 50 years of driving, I've gone through a red light a couple or three times where I was convinced the sensor/timer wasn't working. Tricky if there's any pernickety coppers around though. Easier to defend with the invention of dashcams.

I've had good success with stopping over the sensors and then leaning the bike over horizontally so that the entire bike can be 'seen' by the sensors in the road. It usually triggers the lights into cooperating. Alternatively you can become a pedestrian momentarily by dismounting, crossing the stop line and then remounting then proceeding through the junction as a give way.

Alot of people do not realise that traffic lights do not always detect Cyclist. Ive been waiting at lights for ages for them to change as soon as a car arrives. But in most cases there is plenty of traffic about so this isnt the case. Its a judgement thing, but as a cyclist it annoys me the lack of consideration some people have.

Likewise - one particular right-turn filtre never used to register me on a cycle, but now [thankfully] it does.

@@FoxDren You're right... I forgot to mention that you should never use the term 'accident' >>> www.roadpeace.org/take-action/crash-not-accident/

Thanks for your comment Alan. There’s no need to jump lights when motorists are already waiting at the junction. The sensors have already been triggered 👍🏼

It's in Liverpool - Broadway roundabout, Norris Green.

Looks like it to me - I've seen cars doing that myself too - then countless cars going into the bus lane!

Foreigner, probably LHD, which should have made it easier for the driver to gauge the cyclist from his point of view.

A lot councils have removed them death pinch point makers in the middle of the road really unsafe for cyclists

@64Fabby There were 3 blondes in a pub....just kidding ;)

It depends, a certain type of person will invariably be attracted to a certain type of car. I see many, many times on my journey's, people or styles that I know will be oblivious to those around them. If that is a form of racism (didn't realise BMW was a race???) , then I am sorry, "racism" has saved my life many times over. You have but a few seconds to make a decision based on what you see when navigating our roads, experience is something you most definitely cannot ignore just because it might offend someone.

@@DrWhosmate I didn't say it was racism. I said it's the same type of intellectual trap. For instance, if someone on a bike changes road position without a shoulder check and then turns right. You shouldn't come away from that thinking "bloody cyclists", rather "bloody idiot". Reason I say this is so many times that say, someone close passes and I ask at lights to be sure to give more space, I get back "well you're a cyclist so you RLJ, ride on pavements and pay no 'road tax' 🙄. Stop doing that and maybe I'll give more space".

@@radhanisthebold562 Sure, post incident it shouldn't be something you draw on, it is however inevitable for me that when I see certain groups I adjust my driving accordingly, at least until I know that this particular instance is not going to be a threat. This is simply Pavlovian, learned from your day to day experiences. It is helpful to create groups or templates of perceived threats. There is so much information to take in and so little time to react that the brain does what the brain does best, spot patterns and takes shortcuts. I do agree with you though that after the fact, if you find your self in altercation, those groupings achieve nothing for the argument.

@@DrWhosmate I think we're on the same page.

Be should still have seen the cyclist and realise it will be a close shave with that island in front

Obviously.

If it had been moving faster the cyclist would be dead. When large vehicles move quickly they create an area of moving, low pressure air around them that can pull you in towards them. I've had this happen a few times when buses have overtaken me close and at speed. It's terrifying but the bus get's past you before you're pulled under it's rear wheels. With this veritable road train you'd meet the side of the trailer before it passes.

The fact that the lorry looked like it was foreign/ left hand drive should have helped the situation there, but no the driver passed to close.

motorcycles are completely allowed to filter in front of you

bug siins but they aren’t allowed in the bike boxes at the front of traffic that is what I meant

@@anoncyclist2131 . The reason for ASLs is to give cyclists the opportunity to pull away when the lights change without having a motor vehicle close alongside them and to make it much easier if the cyclist is turning right. Motorbike users do not have those problems.

@@anoncyclist2131 . The ASL enables cyclists to get to the righthand side of the lane, something that can't be done if they are being constantly being overtaken or have vehicles on their right as they approach the junction. It also enables the cyclist to take the lane ready to move off and to prevent possible left hooks.

Standard BMW for you.

Exactly! A bike is one step up from a pair of skates, not one step down from a motor vehicle.

I'd have to disagree. I think the driver showed a great deal of restraint here, and acted in a very forgiving nature. 1. He braked for the pedestrian to prevent a collision. 2. When the pedestrian intentionally collided with the side of his vehicle, he didn't retaliate. If I was driving the car, I'd stop at the scene, and report that I'd been involved in a hit and run to the police immidiately.

@@dancoulson6579 Lol. "Yes officer, I drove into a pedestrian to teach them a bit of a lesson." Then it's you in the back of the police car.

@@dancoulson6579 The motorist clearly could have braked earlier. Instead, they deliberately drove into the path of the pedestrian.