Driving New Vantage, Watching Old F1 Cars & Return Of The V8! [S6, E78]

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This week Tony and I discuss:
0:00 - Intro
0:22 - Sams visit to the Monaco Historic Grand Prix
13:51 - Thoughts on the new Vantage!
36:11 - Stock watch
40:44 - Mercedes are bringing the V8 back?
42:14 - Is the automotive industry turning on EV regulations?
47:07 - Outro
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@anthonyjarvis9472
@anthonyjarvis9472 2 ай бұрын
Sam i dont think embargos matter as much as they did a few years ago, i only watch your channel and JWW for car reviews nowadays and dont mind watching the same car on both. i think a lot of people are more interested in the way a presenter shows the car compared with the car itself. id watch your video on the new 'whatever' but would never watch that car on any other channel if that makes any sense lol
@DontReadMyProfilePicture566
@DontReadMyProfilePicture566 2 ай бұрын
Don't read my name!
@Bikaz
@Bikaz 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately that is probably the case for most of use viewers here, Especially on the podcast channel, but a lot of the views also come from "the masses" who Tony briefly mentioned also decided the mercedes changes. There's a small circle of real car enthusiasts and then there's a huge market of just your average Joe that doesn't care much about cars but is still interested in buying some or another sports car for the weekend or even just to show off.
@anthonyjarvis9472
@anthonyjarvis9472 2 ай бұрын
@@Bikaz thats true but i feel like sam gave up trying to make content for the masses years ago and focused on his regular viewers which is partly why i like his channel so much.
@rahulsudhir666
@rahulsudhir666 2 ай бұрын
​@@anthonyjarvis9472 He wasn't wrong though. His options were fairly straightforward: Go the Mr. JWW route n showcase the ultra luxurious lifestyle or go Shmee's route n put out at least one video a day on every car he can get his hands on or the car build route like Mat Armstrong but each route would mean fairly strong competition n it'd be quite difficult to gain more new subs n be able to maintain viewership because not everyone wants to watch videos on the same car from 4-5 different reviewers. So sticking to his core audience base while also carving out his own niche, in my opinion, was the best decision he's made, especially so with the *_Drive the world series_* . Only thing I wish was different is that he would have taken the Carrera T to every country he visited n drove them there. That would've really have set him apart from all his competition.
@kimi88cz
@kimi88cz 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I don’t watch any of the embargo stuff, just cannot be bothered.
@AbsolutionDF
@AbsolutionDF 2 ай бұрын
45:22 - Start making cars more affordable! Even an M340i estate with two packs costs over 71k new! Manufacturers have lost the plot let alone government EV mandates.
@Tjescoo
@Tjescoo 2 ай бұрын
It's mostly because customers demand ridiculous 'features' such as all the infotainment systems, automatic everything from boot lid to mirrors, cameras all over the place and then the governments make it worse with their insane safety system requirements, let alone the stuff that needs to be done to make them 'clean'. If there's a brand that dares to make actual cheap cars (as Dacia was supposed to be) with nothing more than the essentials, it will be criticized by the spoiled brats who can afford today's new cars and the ones who can't will just buy second hand cars with heated seats and adaptive cc, because they want to feel rich like everybody else. The manufacturers will change as soon as the demand does. Change your expectations from a car before wanting its price to go down.
@eddy7236
@eddy7236 2 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. I bought a pre LCI model new for £48k. Now it’s more than £70k for the same car with a new screen and different lights
@tomnutting3836
@tomnutting3836 2 ай бұрын
This comment needs more traction. No way a damn M340 is worth 71k Awesome car that I want to own but that’s stupidity. A 330 will do and that’s not cheap still.
@mr1983
@mr1983 2 ай бұрын
Not just engines, but the transmission in the older cars was mental. I remember the 90s F1 cars, the gear changes were visceral.
@andrewgoodger8843
@andrewgoodger8843 2 ай бұрын
Great story surrounding the Vantage, and within it, Tony and you talking about too much power for the road etc ( a common comment), could you have a discussion about the best road based experiences.... 2 seta, 4 seat, what cars are they? from any era, Emira? GT4? M3? F-Type?....could Tony talk more about his 718 Spyder experience?
@mikemitch1041
@mikemitch1041 2 ай бұрын
Just watched a Ferrari documentary on sky from the Stirling Moss era and lots of other great British drivers absolutely insane how bad the tracks and cars used to be
@OldGinger
@OldGinger 2 ай бұрын
The day all the vids came out for the vantage... I searched for "seen through glass vantage". This new vantage replaced my old poster car, which was the now last vantage. So, by the sounds of it, we'd be in different camps on opinions on the car, but I love your content so much it's your opinion I wanted to hear on the car. I think plenty of us are happy to wait for your video! And hopefully a video in the future of you beating one around Wales or something!
@DanielSadjadian
@DanielSadjadian 2 ай бұрын
Great news about AMG going back to the V8 👍
@Brownie-956
@Brownie-956 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely loved the two live events I've been to at Alexanders and at Podium place. Made for a class day out. Would love to come to a future one.
@RumblestripDotNet
@RumblestripDotNet 2 ай бұрын
Sam you should get Andrew Frankel on to talk about vintage racing. He does some vintage racing and knows a ton about the driving technique required for those cars. Also if you want to know anything about Sterling Moss, he's your man.
@simonsauter3229
@simonsauter3229 2 ай бұрын
I think that vantage video will be one of your classics 👍 I’m hoping so lol you make the best road trip videos on KZfaq.
@owenmcdonald5922
@owenmcdonald5922 2 ай бұрын
There is a place for electric cars. As there is for petrol diesel hybrid etc. One size does not fit all.
@viktortack2899
@viktortack2899 2 ай бұрын
I am in an interesting situation now and i wonder if maybe lots of people are in the same spot. I live in Belgium and have a company car. EV’s are being pushed massively by the government. I am however a huge petrolhead and love my classics and petrol engines. Still i chose an EV for my next company car just beceause it was the most exciting option as a car lover. All the other company cars i could choose are little 1.5 petrol engins with 130hp like mini countryman, bmw 2 series gran coupe… which are all good cars no question but in the ‘same overal budget’ there was a BMW i4. Personally i thought it was a no brainer at that point and i ordered the i4 without thinking twice while i am not a massive EV fan. Would anyone agree?
@Fzr005
@Fzr005 2 ай бұрын
Love the comparisons with the turbo s. Most other reviews havent done any comparisons
@manisbho
@manisbho 2 ай бұрын
Tony! The front end is very One-77 on the new Vantage! I want one!
@Ducatista189
@Ducatista189 2 ай бұрын
I'll watch the main channel video. Not because I particularly care about this aston, but because I like you're perspective on cars.
@jamespugh
@jamespugh 2 ай бұрын
Great podcast. Sam been holding back to watch every one else's review on the new aston tell I see yours. Guy work with here usa 🇺🇸 love jag . Not sure about little 3cly in i8 in electric hybrid unit
@Userh211
@Userh211 2 ай бұрын
These vlogs are great. Would appreciate you splicing in some of the photos from the shoot at the end or during the video. Doesn’t need to be fully edited but would be great to see how the shots come out for those without instagram
@chrisdyson5513
@chrisdyson5513 2 ай бұрын
Interesting podcast, love to see Sam in a vintage F1 car. Make it happen😃
@DollaB410
@DollaB410 2 ай бұрын
Definitely Watching The Video Dont Worry 🤝🏾
@mountainbikingwithmillsy9429
@mountainbikingwithmillsy9429 2 ай бұрын
Love Twiggy 😄
@simongibbs3936
@simongibbs3936 2 ай бұрын
Is the issue with gearboxes constantly changing gears to do with economy and emissions?
@kimi88cz
@kimi88cz 2 ай бұрын
Leclerc is huge, he has the most followers on insta besides Lewis. People love him, especially in Monaco
@cliftonjackson441
@cliftonjackson441 2 ай бұрын
If it makes you feel any better Sam, your Aston Martin vantage video was the first video on the new vantage that I watched.
@txg399
@txg399 2 ай бұрын
It’s literally not out yet 🤣
@cliftonjackson441
@cliftonjackson441 2 ай бұрын
Oh no, it was jww, lol
@grahammurphy5516
@grahammurphy5516 2 ай бұрын
Tony definitely not having a quiet week this week
@ChrisDorgan
@ChrisDorgan 2 ай бұрын
The new Vantage has the same problem of all modern cars (outside of sound), numb steering. Not knowing what the front tires are doing and having no feedback kills that connection. Plus I think that engine deserves a DCT. The ZF is great for a wafter / GT but if they’ve placed it as an out and out sports car it should have a DCT which they can also use in the Halo stuff (Vanquish etc) leave the DB12 to be the Super Tourer with a ZF 🤪
@Plasmid29
@Plasmid29 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if they’ll bring back the V8 in the C63 and what that will mean for the ‘Final Editions’ that were released?
@alansheard553
@alansheard553 2 ай бұрын
As a 70 year old listening to Sam's experience at Monaco it brings back so many memories, and confirms how bad modern F1 is, drivers had to 'drive' cars in the old days.
@amapolishplummer
@amapolishplummer 2 ай бұрын
Surprised you're not the biggest fan of the Vantage. Would have thought that you would have loved that car as conceptually it's like an ultimate version of a Jaguar F Type.
@RichardRatner.1972
@RichardRatner.1972 2 ай бұрын
Best podcast of the week. Big love, kindest regards, Richard U.K
@nickhorton9427
@nickhorton9427 2 ай бұрын
530d estate. Brilliant.
@neilpatching7443
@neilpatching7443 2 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for your video Sam
@Snarfcat
@Snarfcat 2 ай бұрын
The cars you are talking about were mainly 1960's 1970's if you mean Clark, Hill, Stewart era the cigar cars The drivers are driving fast but the car is being driven at most 80% of it's potential The cars themselves would be scrutinized far higher than they ever were in era and are much safer The tyres they are using are modern tyres that have compounds not available in their era Only modern F1 cars of the last 30 years need to be driven hard to work because of the aerodynamics
@jamespettitt9213
@jamespettitt9213 2 ай бұрын
Aston’s are just delightful dailies, California Sage with bitter chocolate, fizzy!, 🤪.
@P40LVX
@P40LVX 2 ай бұрын
Where’s the update on the next road trip?
@scottcowan6798
@scottcowan6798 2 ай бұрын
I’m know I’m far from being alone, but.. when manufacturers announced their full EV intentions years ago.. I thought.. “yep, I’ll believe it when I see it..” it’ll be interesting to see what Porsche do.. all EV Macan.. EV 718.. EV Cayenne.. surely there will be a Uturn there.. if not.. goodbye.. great episode gents!
@21sled
@21sled 2 ай бұрын
15:18 yeah that’s a really dumb strategy. There’s a reason everyone uploads right after the embargo ends. This is why Sam has been at 500k for 6 years.
@th3orist
@th3orist 2 ай бұрын
Tony is not completely off about "avocat" because in other languages such as romanian a lawyer or advocate is actually called "avocat" :D
@lukabrajkovic2543
@lukabrajkovic2543 2 ай бұрын
Rim tim tagi dim😊
@matthewandcars
@matthewandcars 2 ай бұрын
The stock watch jingle makes these episodes 😂
@ricsu3462
@ricsu3462 2 ай бұрын
love tikki
@petermoran6800
@petermoran6800 2 ай бұрын
We need to champion the development of synthetic fuels so we can keep the ICE cars
@ChrisDorgan
@ChrisDorgan 2 ай бұрын
EV’s are being sold but certainly enthusiast cars are never going to fly as EV that’s why all those EV hyper cars just aren’t interesting or being sold. There’s a place for EV but I think it’s for small city cars mainly. The price needs to come down too. I’ve always thought the likes of Jag going full EV was the daftest thing I had ever heard. It’s going to kill them. Still space for a V8 Jag even if all their fleet cars are EV or something.
@dansutherland70
@dansutherland70 2 ай бұрын
As much as I like the content, especially Sam's videos which are all beautifully shot. I'm also enjoying quite how much I disagree with him on cars. Just in the last two weeks, he likes the new Ferrari, I think it's an abomination (and why is none talking about how massively wide that thing is, it's 200mm wider than an 812) and he's nit-picking the new Vantage performance and loving its looks while I think it sounds like a hoot, but looks less well resolved as a design certainly than it's big brother the DB12. It's a broad church this car stuff.
@CincySupercar
@CincySupercar 2 ай бұрын
As a lifelong Ferrari fanboy I don’t understand the Charles hype. The guy has 5 wins in about a decade of F1. I would say he has not lived up to expectations. I know team strategy is not a strong suit at Ferrari but he’s made plenty of mistakes himself. I’m just not sure he’s a way better driver than his teammate. Charles crashed at the historic race 2 years ago in a car from the 70s.
@Speednote10
@Speednote10 2 ай бұрын
He's done 1 year at Sauber and 5 at Ferrari while going up against two of the most dominant teams in F1 history, all while Ferrari has been a complete mess which frankly is putting it mildly. You'd have a point if he would've had the material to win a few dozen races but only managed to win 5 but that's clearly not the case. Context matters.
@CincySupercar
@CincySupercar 2 ай бұрын
@@Speednote10 Ok I give you it’s not an east era to pick up wins with the AMG run followed by the RBR run but in 19 he finished behind Albon in the points. 2020 Sainz and Norris beat him for the season. 2022 he finished behind Alonso. Let’s compare him to himself. He has 23 poles. 9 fastest wins and just 5 wins. He had the equipment 23 times on Saturday to get pole but couldn’t make it happen Sunday.
@Speednote10
@Speednote10 2 ай бұрын
@@CincySupercar In 2019 he was 4th and beat Vettel. In 2020 he finished behind Albon in the RB, the Ferrari was a dog and Leclerc was 8th (Vettel was 13th). In 2022 he was 2nd and in 2023 he was beaten by Alonso who had the 2nd best car in the field for the first half of the season, they finished on the same amount of points. Also, being fast in quali doesn't mean you'll be fast over 50+ laps. The Ferrari has been awful on its tires in race trim for years and one of the reasons they are so fast over one lap is because it's so easy for them to get the tires going but in a race stint that's the worst thing that can happen since the tires wear way too fast. It was exactly the same for HAAS last year, great on Saturdays but dogshit on Sundays because the car ate tires like crazy.
@jim99west46
@jim99west46 2 ай бұрын
Turbo S is over competent for road use. Vantage is in its own bubble with a sumptuous interior. If your bored with Porsche life its a great alternative.
@andygtv
@andygtv 2 ай бұрын
There is something old man retired about Astons
@Tjescoo
@Tjescoo 2 ай бұрын
That Aston Martin is described as a very awesome sports car and Sam cannot drive it
@michaelroche4563
@michaelroche4563 2 ай бұрын
Literally
@Speednote10
@Speednote10 2 ай бұрын
It's like they're having a competition over who can say it the most times.
@NBMBC40
@NBMBC40 2 ай бұрын
Your putting everyone off watching your Vantage video Sunday, and differant to every other youtuber I'ved watched in what your saying you sound like your overly trying find areas to knock
@stuartlloyd-jones9583
@stuartlloyd-jones9583 2 ай бұрын
Agree. Everyother content provider was super impressed. Steve Sutcliffe, Henry Catchpole etc (those not paid to give a positive review)
@stefanedmeades4298
@stefanedmeades4298 2 ай бұрын
If you want to try a car that doesn’t have too much power for the road then come and try my mk6 Fiesta ST!! 150hp (when new) and you can use every one of them and be guaranteed to keep your license! Do a rate my ride video with it, it’ll be hilarious. 🚙🚙💨💨
@thomasheuer1916
@thomasheuer1916 2 ай бұрын
Ever since San Marino 94, cars are so safe, its like racing dodgem cars. Can't get hurt and because of that. Bad behaviour on the track.
@shaunkaridza1579
@shaunkaridza1579 2 ай бұрын
Heard Aston’s in general are shite and underwhelming
@benpenagonzales6014
@benpenagonzales6014 2 ай бұрын
Zero emissions cities. Surely we can agree on that future.
@sweetfreedomGB
@sweetfreedomGB 2 ай бұрын
I think you are too Porsche obsessed to review an Aston in a constructive manner. Also, perhaps you delay to see what other more experienced race reviewers have to say first.
@Snarfcat
@Snarfcat 2 ай бұрын
I know I disagree with 99% but modern Aston Martins are for me personally just Mercedes Benz with ugly bodywork They have fallen into the Ferrari trap of making cars for money which as a business is correct They both suffer with cheap plastics in the interior with stupid badges reminding you what you are driving everywhere Look at the Aston boot lid, cars have badges for a reason
@petermoran6800
@petermoran6800 2 ай бұрын
Most EV’s are vastly overpriced and there is no infrastructure to support them, if synthetic fuels were produced on an economy of scale the price would be very comparable
@alastairhatt360
@alastairhatt360 2 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but you cannot keep saying no one is buying EV’s as a general term without basin your comments on facts. You keep saying you are not against EV’s but again you are bagging them about no sales…. Really show your stats for this. The legacy makers have had years to gear up for this but ignored it thinking it was going away and here we are and it’s not. You cant keep living in the last guys just because you like the smell of toxic fumes and noise. These vehicles are polluting the air we all breathe each and everyday. I get the feeling of the revs and sound and engagement you get from those cars I was the same but we need to change and it’s coming faster than you realise and if they don’t join they will be gone. Sad but true. You can’t use Bugatti and Ferrari etc as examples of not going to EV’ s as there customer base and lower volumes are able to survive this. High volume makers are the ones who will suffer if they don’t change.
@stran-air-jordan
@stran-air-jordan 2 ай бұрын
Electric vehicles are not the ultimate answer. Passenger vehicles only account for approx 10% of CO2 emmisions. Large corporations are polluting the air to a much larger extent, due to negligent manufacturing processes. And any regulations to stop them are offset by useless "carbon credits". The processes used to create these batteries and charge these vehicles is just as harmful as ICE vehicles, if not more so. The issue of pollution is incredibly complex and will not be solved by BEVs. And this is only in the West, countries like China and India are heavy polluters who are not beholden to the same regulations.
@SpontaneousEvolution
@SpontaneousEvolution 2 ай бұрын
They discussed your point previously. Huge drop in sales of EVs due to plummeting resale values. EVs only selling in 1st world cities. The rest of the world is not showing interest due to cost + lack of infrastructure. They are a passing fad thankfully.
@marky9117
@marky9117 2 ай бұрын
The manufacturers have tried though and they’ve said themselves the take up is too slow. VW closed its EV plant last summer for an extended summer break and wrote a letter to the powers that be in Germany, citing “customer reluctance”. If you’ve been quick to give up your ICE cars and don’t mind, good for you, but for most petrolheads we are thinking why should we?! Why should we give up our hobby, passion and in some cases livelihoods. What do you propose we do with all of our classic and sports cars? Crush them? How “green” is that?? 🤔 And if we are honest the only people buying EVs are business users for the huge perks. Any private buyer choosing an EV must be mad or have money to burn. The residuals are so bad it’s ridiculous and hilarious in equal measure. Only a mug would by an EV privately. A wealthy mug, but a mug all the same. 😄
@sincZ12
@sincZ12 2 ай бұрын
Booooo.. EVs are boring. Next comment
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