@Mr Jerry 1% luck 99% skills!!!

@Mr Jerry It's like driving a forklift But you don't have a gas or a brake pedal🛑🚧🚦

@Mr Jerry Yes it is mirrored in selfie mode!🙃

@Mr Jerry 1 or 2 people can drive the truck you can lock the rear axle and drive it like a regular truck trailer the rear steering is so you can maneuver in tight spaces and position the truck in industrial areas.

@Mr Jerry It's like drifting and yes I was very nervous costs more than I make in a lifetime🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

Yes

B Weid I never have

I switched to the front of the apparatus once on shift and just bout killed the garage door

@@justanotheraviator2357 whoops lol

Me too

It gives me OCD that the steering wheel isnt straight too ☠️

ITS OK CAP. KRAMER'S GOT THE CABOOSE

wouldn't it be time to replace a 2nd guy with automatic or adaptive rear-wheel steering? Would work on a rigid truck as well

@@EnjoyFirefighting Nope it won't . Your concept of auto steering ie: tillering is a very unreliable concept.I had done some looking into it and nothing you wrote on the so called virtues of it is valid.You seem to be the type that invested money or stock into some company that wants to sell the auto tillering and are on here trying to push it....sit down, recover your money and don't try to fix something that does not need fixing.

@@stevenkelly9731 I'm just a paramedic, so it's none of my business to try to sell automatic or, now getting populat, adaptive rear-wheel steering. It's around for so many years already, successfully. It doesn't need to be pushed, departments purchase it in great numbers ... tbh it's almost a standard on modern fire trucks. Down here in the south several departments purchased the identical rear-mount 105' Tower Ladder with all-wheel steering. Some departments also get Engines (to be correct: Rescue Engines) with all-wheel steering. And well automatic rear-wheel steering indeed is a standard on modern fire trucks with 3 or more axles. I know some few which don't have it, but that's really really rare here. Even the largest fire trucks here don't have a 2nd driver steering the rear. No matter if it's a gigantic Tanker or a massive Aerial I don't know if it's cost effective to pay several crew members 24-7 over years vs. purchasing a simple standard system once and maintaining it.

It was fun it's kind of like drifting

Yes it would but the liberals in California made it illegal!

That’s lame but cool video man keep it up!

Aaron's Adventures Why would they make it illegal?

Because the ball comes off sometimes and people lose control and you can't fix stupid

Aaron's Adventures Lol isn’t the ball there just for easier turning? How would someone loose control while turning 😂

Hey now! We resemble that remark.

At least it goes down the road unlike vehicles of a different nationality.

Thanks! I was wondering that myself.

I was kinda confused by that lol

I could tell by the stop sign. Lol

Yea it took me a min to notice. Was messing with me

Why is it "mirrored"? How did it get that way?

How do you know that there wasn't any training?

No training?? Are you kidding?

NYC still has them, very impressive to see

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WolfFace the fire brigade could order one but the shipping costs would be astronomical. A department I visited had a European telescoping ladder truck made custom for them. The price tag was $1.2 million (USD) and added costs of $3.4 million (USD) in shipping and insurance. There is only one ship at the time that could accommodate the shipping. They waited 2 and a half years form it to arrive from start to finish. Was in service for 4 years before they retired it due to maintenance costs. Broke an axle and it would be 6-8 months for large parts.

@@N2NDF not just shipping, but also maintenance with spare parts being on the other side of the pond; Even the fire and rescue services from the US Army in Germany has switched to European apparatus ... well concerning Aerials they've been using European ones for decades already, but they do the same with Engines and Tankers etc. In many places in Norway a Tiller wouldn't be relevant; Even in some of the large cities they went to more compact instead of even larger Aerials

yeah i know the standard firetrucks in Norway is scanias for the most part. and driving a Tiller in Norway would be a nightmare because of the tight streets and corners.

@@wolfface2526 tight comers and allyways are where tiller trucks come into play..

Too slow because of the tiller.

The intercom wasn't hooked up that day so we were just using the signals and a foot buzzer

Yes but the communication system wasn't set up at the time we went for the test drive

Beeps button on the left side of the tiller cage...1 beep= stop, 2 beeps= forward,3 beeps= backup.

@@stevenkelly9731 Same as our old conductor & driver buses (UK)

Ever seen boeings special trucks where you are under the load in the back driving a mini truck with no engine no brakes and only 30 cm above the ground? That looks scary but also fun.

They have brakes just like a conventional tractor trailer combination

That's what I keep asking myself?

Just a little!!

Yes just a test drive I replace the transmission no one showed me how to drive it just had to figure it out and for as much as that machine cost I was kind of nervous

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 did a pretty good job for having no training. You probably did better than most tiller men with 2 years on the job do. It just came natural to you I guess.

Hell sounds like a good time to me!

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 HEY! KRAMER!

I am a transmission mechanic just doing a test drive

See you on the back side!🤡

That's what I was thinking!😅

Although tillermen aren't supposed to have the door open during a response because of safety concerns, in most departments you will usually see the operator with the door open. The FDNY tillers most of the time do it because it gives more air flow and it gives the operator more arm room because the cab is pretty claustrophobic although there's 360° view windows.

Joseph Bennett Well explained. Thank you.

@@josephbennett3482 I kept my door open in hot weather.

I would say... uhhh, YEAH! It's a tractor-trailer! You really need to know how to drive a semi to understand what you need to do!

@@GMan-yv8cb alright thanks for the information and also thanks for your service and stay safe and healthy.

Yes

yea, they turn the opposite way so that they get a good turn and not take out a street light at a corner.. =D

If you watch closely you will see he turns opposite briefly then turns the wheel like normal. It is so the vehicle does not cross lane dividers while turning reducing chance of an accident. Long vehicles like to cheat when it comes to the trailer.

Yes the yellow blinkers up in the control panel are turning indicators to let the tillermen know what way they are going to turn if the operator didn't hear the direction from the front cabin, the tillermen usually wear headsets so the two operators can constantly communicate with each other so the tillerman knows what they have to do minute by minute while driving.

No

Aaron's Adventures .... do those back wheels turn? If so then yes lol.

I used to drive forklifts and it handles nothing like a forklift so no sorry to burst your bubble!lol

Yes you can lock out the trailer and drive normally.🤠👍

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 Thanks. It does look like fun but probably not so much over a long distance. 👍

Most SUVs have an automatic transmission or a 1K 2K these have a 3000 Transmission in it or an HD3560

You cannot see very well but there are mirrors that help you Gauge where you are in the lane 😉

Yes sir

No need. Backing up is simply logical. It's retraining your senses. A little practice. Just remember, wherever the bottom of the steering wheel goes you go.

Skills

hes not driving, just steering the rear

thanks

I would be a firefighter... If I wasn't scsred of heights -__- No way am I climbing up a 100' ladder.

I had it in selfie mode the video is mirrored

At first it did then it was just fun

I believe it was Anaheim we do all of the Western States

The video is mirrored had it in selfie mode

It's like oh shit we're stopping!

Yes you turn the wheels the opposite way and it does have power steering👨‍🔧

Yes you have power steering. If the front, the tractor it’s called is turning right the tiller man turns his wheels left to keep the trailer wheels in the center of the lane then as the end gets right to the intersection you turn hard and fast right. The tractor driver( the front) can drive like he is in a sports car and that makes the tiller man have to work that steering wheel or the tractor driver can make more L shaped turns and the tiller man doesn’t have to do much work.

Couldn't of said it better myself!!!

Sometimes you need to steer in the same direction as the front to crab the whole unit in case you need to change lanes in a short space.

Oh no I was using those mirrors you have to constantly scan and correct that rear end It was a little bit of a rough ride! Lol

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 Well, I meant while you were backing up, but that's ok.

Yes sir

Is that because it's to long of a vichacal ??

It is for faster maneuvering around corners and positioning and tight spaces

Yes Sir it so it can make quick turns and sharp ones that would normally cause you to flip Hong around quick and fast, tight spaces, positioning

No 20 people

We have an intercom system to communicate.

Heli-Crew HGS he’s a mechanic

It's a dirty job working on the transmission I was a little more concerned about the machine working properly then my appearance!!!!

Aaron's Adventures That's a fair point.

It's mirrored

Yes it mirrored

What does mirrored mean? I thought you were driving over sea's.

@@firetruckblack mirrored means when the image is backwards

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 Sorry, I'm still not understanding what the mirrored means. The video is going with the traffic, but on the wrong side of the road.

The video is mirrored I had the camera in selfie mode

Not hard at all 😊

mcgherkinstudios Climb up my hook and ladder

I couldn't tell you cuz I'm not a Tillerman I'm a transmission mechanic?

I wear many hats around this place!

Duties include once the driver set the PTO ( power take off) to change the power from engine to ladder power the tiller person helps puts the outriggers down, assist in ladder raising, getting tools ( saws and whatever roof tools needed for firefighting) gearing up ...ventilation of roofs ( smoke , gas and heat) cutoff power and gas ect...the list goes on.

Not too sure about that

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 Ok. Cheers.But I think E-One were the only manufactures who did the angled tiller cabs. They were first to introduce the concept. But others might have taken up the idea.

@@gordonkeane6298 I believe it is a CAL FIRE/Riverside County Fire Department Smeal Ladder Truck. This is one of 5 identical trucks. I believe they were built in 2008. They utilized the angled windows in the tiller cab for better visibility down the sides of the truck.

@@rickgriggs8987 Cheers for that info. I wasn't sure if others had adopted the angled design. Thus my question mark. It seems then, Smeal are the only other ones to do so.

Riverside California

It depends on the direction your trying to travel it's like a forklift

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 *Tongue-click* "noice" 😁👍

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The purpose of the rear cab is for maneuverability around tight corners and positioning Thanks for watching!!!!🙃

No this is a Allison transmission shop!!!

No this is a Allison transmission shop!!!! Lol

We do service for all of the western states

Los Angeles fire department?

@@hischild6900 yeah

We do service on all fire apparatus

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 appears to be a Riverside County Fire Department Smeal Truck.

Had the camera in selfie mode and it mirrored

It is E-ONE not sure if it is super tiller or not?

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 oh I'm just saying because those side windows for better view

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5iXd7GB1cvdmqc.html

This one's a little older than the super tiller but I have drove in the squad Zilla out of LA County that one is big so you can fit two people in the tiller!

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 oh

It's in selfie mode So it flips the image

DrNo0815 Backing up would probably be easier with a human instead

How do you see that working?

@@RandyCarpadus We see it working at the fire department in my country every day, actually, it works really well in the same way the trailers of trucks can have automatic rear-wheel steering that corresponds with what the driver of the vehicle does (and in trucks with a trailer that supports it, it usually is a set of wheels they can lower when entering a neighbourhood with smaller roads that would make taking a turn difficult, the wheels turn the "wrong" way as opposoed to the wheels of the truck).

@@Dutch3DMaster Rear steering of a straight truck is not anywhere close to rear steering a 40ft long tiller.

@@RandyCarpadus The most common combination of trucks with trailer in my country (The Netherlands) are at the 61 feet mark, and some of the biggest autoladders in the biggest cities might be even slightly longer than that and they all have it and it's absolutely not a problem? (And the firefighting units I mentioned, just like the more common trucks+trailer combinations are not straight trucks, they are seperate.)

It's in selfie mode

Corona California USA

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 ahh my neighbors

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 is it a city/fleet maintenance yard?

No we are private contractors for Allison Transmissions

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 ahh

The video is mirrored, look on the dashboard behind the steering wheel, "Danger" is also mirrored

It’s filmed in US

look at 4:14 the STOP sign or u see POTS on the left upper corner

It's mirrored I had it in selfie mode

No, it's mirrored, and plus us Brits have fire apparatus that's actually from the 21st century :-)

Yes sir!

It's to tell what direction you're going and how far your wheels are turning

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 so there's no speedometer back there? I would at least like to know how fast I would be going, I would have a phone mount back there for GPS speed at least if it were me.

Don't let fear stop you from following your dreams!!!!!

It's be surprised how much you can see from up there you're only steering the rear so you really don't need to see in the front!

Corona California we fix it all at western states thanks for watching please like and subscribe 😀 👍

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 yeah sorry, caught me by surprised with the cars driving on left instead right hand side...

The video is mirrored in selfie mode that is why it is that way

@@aaronswanderlandadventures9561 that makes sense haha.

Thanks 😊

Isn't that just the most comforting sound!😖

Hello 👋

What's the fun in that?

Haters are going to hate! Lol

He handled that great, u jump into something that Large for ur first time, let see how you do, he even backed it nicely