Treantmonk is really good at responding to feedback. He doesn't let ego get in the way of suggestions and constructive criticism, and his content just keeps on improving.

Thank you!

I am colorblind and I do have trouble telling a couple of the colors he uses apart (red/orange and purple/blue) but that’s not what I have the most trouble with. A color ranking system isn’t intuitive. A system using a number of something (like his stars) is actually intuitive. I’d rather the color system be done away with completely. I only listen to the videos so I don’t even see the stars unless I go grab my phone to check because I really am not interested in memorizing which color is better than which.

@@jonahsalyers5979 color systems are obviously intuitive, and he does it because it's widely used. Red = bad/stop, green = good/go. Bronze, silver, gold is another obvious one. Or Black and white symbolizing evil/unknown and good/pure/truth. The stars and colors together are redundant, but that's no big deal.

@@shane9287 A complete straw man argument since you’re not actually addressing his color system, isn’t it? There’s nothing intuitive about orange being slightly better than red and purple being a bit better than that. Oh, we get green next so we know it’s good because it means go! And then blue must be at the top because SkY bE uP hIgH aNd HiGh MeAnS tOp ScOrE! Is that how the intuitive part works?

Wow, good catch!

Absorb elements and Thorn whip are a 1-2 combo. (And it is range)

Or even Primal Savagery

@@mcullennz primal savagery is not a range melee attack

Still a pretty marginal damage boost, however ... especially when you consider the "creatures that do elemental damage tend to be resistant or immune" drawback ... but yeah, nice catch.

I try

@@TreantmonksTemple you succeed

Charisma is for training, and for making them do things for you. Charisma animal handling roll, for coaxing a cat to come to you, or a dog to chew a rope.

@@WexMajor82 Sage Advice explicitly suggests Wisdom is the stat used for taming, although taming a wild animal is non-trivial. More holistically, Animal Handling is already a pretty weak skill. Making it worse by trying to key it off a different stat that the classes with it won’t have makes no sense.

Animal handling is a general skill usable by any character, druid or not. If you can actually speak with the animal, then it would only make sense to use charisma based skills.

@@burningwp It is a generally usable skill in the same way that anyone can technically go mountain climbing; you know full well that the most likely classes to take it use WIS. Anyways, Animal Friendship, the spell in question, does not give you the ability to speak to animals.

@@MrAmbitione I wasn't specifically responding to your comment, just adding to the discussion, especially relevant because of the existence of Speak with Animals, shepherd druids, and Firbolgs. I could manipulate a kid into putting down the toilet seat by giving them a cookie every time they did it (i.e. animal handling), but that is a much different interaction than if I went up to that kid and said, "please make sure to put the toilet seat down" (i.e. persuasion).

Any caster that thinks that first level spells get irrelevant at any point is doing something wrong. There is no down casting, so why leave the first level spells on the table? And between Spells like Shield, absorb elements, bless, healing word and goodberry, every caster has an excelent first level spell, or two, at their disposal.

Guess thats to be expected when you get railroaded....I'll se myself out now XD

@@ArchangelLion rule of cool 😎

I think I’m in the same boat here

Or, just do the ordering in the description with the timestamps. I've seen that be effective in other teir lists!

@@sharkforce8147 it’s still really bad tho. I think it would benefit from being a ritual

Ice Knife at least does not have a Verbal component. Can be useful for that.

Snare seems to be redundant for the druid anyway since they have entangle in their spell list.

Snare is an NPC spell. It lasts until dispelled or triggered, which makes it a useful and very cheap (compared to, say, Glyph of Warding) home defense trap.

I wonder if Mercy might squeak into low C.

@@godminnette2 I feel like it should. I ran some numbers and Mercy pumps out quite a bit of healing and cleansing. At third level you can pay a ki point for a Hands of Healing whenever you would use your bonus action to attack that turn (which you normally do for free as a monk). Hands of healing at this level is 1d4 + WIS, same as a Healing Word, without using any additional actions from the monk (since again the bonus action it’s attached to already gets its value from the “offhand attack”, the only cost is the ki point. That means you’re getting 3 healing words’ worth of healing per short rest. That’s three 1st level spell slot regenerating on a short rest, that’s not bad at all for a martial to be able to provide. 1d4 + WIS is probably 5.5 on average, times 3 uses is about 16.5 healing total; that’s more than a paladin’s Healing Hands, and you don’t need to stop attacking to use it, *and* yours recovers on a short rest instead of a long rest. This is really good for improving a low level party’s longevity. Speaking of Paladin, at the same level the Mercy monk gets “smite” for 1d4 + WIS to add to an attack. That’s again 5.5 on average, quite a bit less than the Paladin’s 2d8 = 9 additional damage (which all doubles on a crit). Also, the monk’s healing and “smite” draw from the same pool while the Paladin has two separate pools. However, the paladin only has three spell slots per long rest again, so with only one short rest the mercy monk can provide slightly more healing and about 60% of the smite damage. With two short rests, the monk is providing more healing and more smite damage on average. At fifth level, the Paladin has doubled their available spell slots and increased their healing hands pool to 25, while the monk has increased their damage and healing to 1d6 + WIS (good argument for boosting WIS before DEX, but it could go either way) and increased their pool per short rest by 66%. So the Paladin is scaling a little faster in these level ranges but that’s because spell slots jump a lot for half casters between levels 3 and 5. Furthermore, at level 6 Mercy Monks get to add a 2nd level spell effect onto their 1st level spell effect, for the same single ki cost. They’re basically using cure wounds now without an action cost, and also attaching a Lesser Restoration to it. That’s great value, far better than what the Paladin can provide with healing hands and their limited spell slots, and they can do it without stopping their attacks. The Paladin still has 4 x 2d8 + 2 x 3d8 = 4x9 + 2x13.5 = 63 extra points of damage available from their smites, which would take a 1d6 + 3 = 6.5 damage Hands of Harm about 10 activations to match (that’s a full set of ki from the start of the day plus the first long rest spent on Hands of Harm, meaning if you want to mathematically match the extra damage from smites AND the healing from Healing Hands you need a second short rest, though there’s no accounting for the fact that the monk included cleanses in their heals here). Buuuut you don’t need to fully match the damage of normal smites anymore because your “smites” now poison with no saving throw! That makes them more akin to, say, a Wrathful Smite (in terms of providing disadvantage on attacks) which only deals 1d6 damage as a 1st level spell, plus requiring concentration and a bonus action. So now, comparing apples to apples, we should be comparing the damage to an additional 1d6 + in which case the Mercy monk’s 1d6 + WIS + is the clear winner, and that’s before taking into account that the Mercy monk has more of these points than the Paladin has first level slots, and they come back on a short rest, and the condition doesn’t require a saving throw! (Of course the Paladin got their Aura at this level, none of this is meant to suggest that Mercy makes the monk top tier. The point is that it gives them a lot of good tools, tools that are comparable to tools that other martial professions get. They still have many of the disadvantages of being a monk: lower AC and HP, no good feat support for damage, less damage per hit. But I think that Mercy gets enough that they can easily be a useful addition to your party without too much difficulty, and that means that when those niche situations come about where a monk’s unique utility like wall running, arrow catching, slow falling, water walking, or just plain speeding up to a caster and stun-locking them finally come up, you can have that character that shines in that moment without thinking that you’re useless the other 95% of the time).

@@Skyhigh91100 One comment here being you are including the Subclass features. It isn't likely to change much since Channel Divinity is once per rest, but some of the oaths bring a lot to the table.

How was it playing the druid?

Fog Cloud also shuts down attacks of opportunity.

I've never made a scroll. Is this a common practice? How do u do that?

@@jrg305 there are rules in Xanathar’s, if your GM allows them. If you have Arcana proficiency, you can make a scroll of any 1st-level spell you know for 25gp and 1 day of downtime (and any expensive material components, if the spell requires them). Higher-level scrolls get pricey and time-consuming very fast, but 1st-level scrolls are very much worth the time, IMO.

Sometimes that's a sign that characters need to die. Let em. :)

to make it worse, bonus action to change back from wildshape, so have to use cure wounds not healing word!

It was such a problem the DM let me exchange my action for a bonus action.

Moon druid under level 5 is overpowered. I've played one. You will carry the party. You gotta learn to make them hit you instead of party members because you have like +80 hp from each short rest even if you do no damage or cast no spells.

@Professor Thinker what about standing next to them and grappling them with bear strength? Punishing them with opportunity attacks if they attack others? Concentrating on something dangerous for them will make them want to hit you. You can "create aggro" that way but obviously if the DM doesnt role play properly or is metagaming vs a particular player, yeah, there is no taunt or anything I agree.

I will have a map simulation for plant growth in that video (coming in 2 weeks)

@@TreantmonksTemple So excited! That spell is crazy good, being able to choose which squares grow and which don't is just silly, and the range is huge.

And at lvl 6 you can just cast it from your spirit.

Possibly in the future.

I feel like it is more important on casters with limited known spells or spell slots (sorc or warlock). Or hybrid casters. Prepared casters have it easy. I've played all three.

@@jrg305 absolutelty, but I'm curious to see how certain spells are rated differently based on the type of spellcasting feature that other classes offer, for example hold person is a situational good spell when cast by a warlock, not so much if a wizard uses it instead, at least in my opinion

Lizardfolk at a funeral pointing at the casket, "You done with that?"

For Create Or Destroy Water, I would argue that the ocean is an open container. Just... a very, very large one.

Jump seems like a good NPC spell that goes into crafting enchanted boots, but not for actual use as a spell.

Purify Food And Drink is an amazing spell if you wanna cook with poisonous mushrooms and not die.

Star druid for double healing

It's better at higher levels

While I agree with this somewhat, the ability to detect poisonous creatures is rather huge. The exact use-case of 'might be spiders hiding in the webs' happened more than once in the game I'm in. Of course, I'm a Tome Pact Warlock and casting these as rituals (no one else can cast it), and it's helped on more than one occasion.

@@NemisCassander Only if there are both hidden and poisonous creatures to detect in the first place, which will not be the case in most combat encounters. Hence me not saying it's bad, just situational

Still waiting for the moon sickle ruling. Because MS says "cast" while life cleric says "use" Although I do like the idea of allowing it.

I think it's open to interpretation

It would definitely be a lot better

Unless you're at very low level, effective battlefield control, damage focus and defensive features will make characters going down a rarity. So Healing Word is only powerful in situations where things are going bad.

The main thing that people tend to overlook is that saving your main action, while not useless, tends to have disappointing value for full spellcasters since they can't use that action to do what they're best at; casting (non-cantrip) spells. It still holds value for casting cantrips or taking the Dodge action if nothing else, but it's not quite as potent as your action might normally be. The range of Healing Word is a great advantage at lower levels though.

I saw that. I disagree with his assessment.

@@fadeleaf845 our party just hit level 5 and we have 1 or 2 players going down every encounter. at level 2 or 3 we had a PC death purely because i chose to prepare cure wounds instead of healing word and the action economy/range of the fight made it so if i ever used an action and my movement to get to them for cure wounds i would have died. however our DM is also balancing each encounter very aggressively into the "deadly" rating. Every single encounter feels like we are on the edge of a TPK. My Spore druids main damage is already either a shillelagh or Chill touch and i literally dont have any other bonus actions so i am using healing word almost every turn along with a damage action and concentration spell like entangle active.

The Wizard spell guide is still the most helpful as it works for Wizards, Sorcerers, and even Warlocks and somewhat for bards. Clerics have the smallest spell list but it's pretty much a completely separate list from the Wizard.

@@guardian_of_the_rune he did a written guide where he talked about it, though it's slightly outdated and also focused on a melee cleric build for Chult. So SW/SG was the staple anyways. Nowadays, most recommend using BA for telekinesis over spiritual weapon the vast majority of the time. Really, clerics are super fun, but not very diverse a lot of the time. Bless, Healing Word, Aid, Spiritual Weapon, and Spirit Guardians are the classic hits again and again

Goodberry doesn't care about your wisdom at all.