Drum Teacher Reacts: KAI HAHTO | Nightwish LIVE Drumcam | 'Wishmaster' (2021 Reaction)

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@anttikangasaho
@anttikangasaho 3 жыл бұрын
Hey from the creator of the original video! Thanks for an amazing reaction video. Kai is indeed amazing and makes the licks and tricks look like a walk in the park. And on top of all the skills he always plays for the song. I have a plenty of drumcam stuff on my channel and also plenty more Kai. Ghost Love Score is super popural and it does have some brain twisting insane drumming towards the end. All the Nightwish videos have been done by recording the actual acoustic sound from the stage with a couple of recorders. Maybe next time I get to work with actual multitrack for even better audio.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU! Pinned your comment here. Thanks for the awesome vid :)
@Neil2112
@Neil2112 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Absolutely continue your Kai journey, on KZfaq or not. His drumming is beautiful. Not sure if it were mentioned anywhere else, but a fun fact about Kai…. He studied under the late and great Freddy Gruber. Same person Neil Peart turned to when he wanted a different approach to the drums.
@Martee234
@Martee234 3 жыл бұрын
Wintersun - Sons of winter and stars, and Wintersun - Time. Kai is showing there his perfection
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
I will Marcin!
@markhall5251
@markhall5251 3 жыл бұрын
What he said...lol....stunning...Kai is a human metronome......just on speed.....hahaha
@hextatik_sound
@hextatik_sound 3 жыл бұрын
Sons of winter and stars (studio live) is great and Hahto just nails it perfectly.
@olbaolba
@olbaolba 3 жыл бұрын
Sons of winter and stars is really good and interesting song indeed. Andrew might also be interested about video, where Kai has "how to" about that song: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eK19lat5zM3FYWw.html
@Martee234
@Martee234 3 жыл бұрын
@@olbaolba yeah i saw that video too, awesome. when drummer can repeat all the sticking but in slower tempo it's trully professional
@MrDijaru
@MrDijaru 5 ай бұрын
Kai one of the best drummers today. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
@SolFaithman
@SolFaithman 3 жыл бұрын
The end of the video, youtube recommendation which popped up "Weak Fantasy", starts with Kai doing a short drum solo!
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good!
@itedcoe
@itedcoe 3 жыл бұрын
Or Stargazers from the same Himos show!
@PeeVee1979
@PeeVee1979 3 жыл бұрын
You might want to check Kai's previous band Wintersun and their live rehearsal of the song Time. Prepare to pick your jaw up from the floor, Kai is a beast.
@soundworks1554
@soundworks1554 3 жыл бұрын
There is still a lot to discover with Kai, certainly: Wintersun - Sons of winter and stars. But be careful with Nightwish live concerts, that can be a deep rabbit hole and in addition the soul hunter goddess can suddenly catch you.
@L3onOfKings
@L3onOfKings 3 жыл бұрын
There is no escape.
@joritdekker
@joritdekker 3 жыл бұрын
Well, he can't say we did not warn him when that happens.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good!
@soundworks1554
@soundworks1554 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewRooneyDrums It will sound more than good! Of course, depending on your preferences. If you're interested, here's just a little insight into how good this band can sound live and Kai is on duty. Even the statements about the soul hunter goddess, also called valkyrie queen etc. are also revealed and shown to a certain extent. « Devil and the deep dark ocean » kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qphmpcKnpr-1YIU.html Nightwish has a wide variety of wonderful surprises to offer. Not to forget the original drummer Jukka Nevalainen, who retired for health reasons, but continued to support the band in the background.
@grahamkey8496
@grahamkey8496 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundworks1554 That song would be my pick for Kai's insane high speed fills
@jacksonnew2592
@jacksonnew2592 3 жыл бұрын
As has been said, as much as I love Nightwish, his previous band Wintersun are absolutely mind blowing. His drum work on Sons of Winter and Stars instantly elevated him to be my favourite drummer and enough for me to name my son Kai
@ssc00p
@ssc00p 3 жыл бұрын
Wow... naming your son after a person is one of the highest complimentary a man can give 🤩
@rianvandenhoof4124
@rianvandenhoof4124 2 жыл бұрын
As a Nightwish fan, and a fan of Kai I`m especially fond of the song ~Tribal~ from their last album called Human Nature. greetings from the Netherlands.
@RoyalMela
@RoyalMela 3 жыл бұрын
Kai is almost a former band member of mine. I left a band and they also replaced the drummer at that time, and the new drummer was Kai. Very humble guy. Just this last midsummer I was drinking with him and his wife in our hometown, watching some small local bands. He always is there when he has a chance. Just chills like a regular guy in the audience. And when he is not touring, he usually jams with local street jazz band and has even played percussions in Vaasa city orchestra.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that info Roy!
@CJ-lo1ny
@CJ-lo1ny 3 жыл бұрын
Kai is a beast on the drums! Listen to Nightwish” devil and the deep dark ocean” Kai is killing on the drums🔥
@michaelhoilman6897
@michaelhoilman6897 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, great suggestion. He absolutely murders those drums in that song.
@matthewpoburyny5147
@matthewpoburyny5147 3 жыл бұрын
Sons of Winter and Stars from Wintersun would be a video to watch!
@helky8
@helky8 3 жыл бұрын
Kai is allways having so much fun when playing. Smiling and singing along. He is also so nice and friendly to fans in Facebook. Gotta love him! ❤️❤️
@scottb.4472
@scottb.4472 3 жыл бұрын
It's really kind of funny and touching at the same time, Jukka and Kai are both amazing drummers and they are great friends and they're drumming techniques are literally polar opposites but they both make it work...... Which absolutely fascinates me
@ps-em4nz
@ps-em4nz 3 жыл бұрын
So obviously you gotta check out Wintersun to see Kai Hahtos real potential... Nightwish stuff is too easy for him
@ps-em4nz
@ps-em4nz 3 жыл бұрын
This is a drum channel tho, there is quality drumcams from pearldrumsfinland to watch :)
@ryant3600
@ryant3600 3 жыл бұрын
i don't' know.. The Greatest Show on Earth is amazing
@ps-em4nz
@ps-em4nz 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryant3600 It sure is, But not from a drummer PoV
@ryant3600
@ryant3600 3 жыл бұрын
@@ps-em4nz there's some stuff he does in that one that blows my mind.. Not throughout the entire song, just some runs and fills that make me look/listen over and over a few times
@miikkahaaparanta4875
@miikkahaaparanta4875 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis and simply giving the credits to the player. Not answering your question for more Nightwish but check also COBs Jaska Raatikainen.
@EricManktelow
@EricManktelow 3 жыл бұрын
Kai is a drumming monster and master. Nightwish doesn't really push him much but all the members of Nightwish play for the song not their egos. His Wintersun stuff is mind bending and his early stuff in Grindcore is also crazy. Oh yes and if you do watch Nightwish live stuff, the singer Floor will steal your soul and take it Valhalla with her!
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
I'll check out the full song Eric!
@torpitsanas9010
@torpitsanas9010 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! If you want to see Kai use more "side bass drums" that you mentioned check out "Kai Hahto Nightwish Drumcam 'Weak Fantasy' / 20.8.2016 Himos,Finland" Kais playing is always looked very easy.
@deanabennett8461
@deanabennett8461 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@lesliecompton4061
@lesliecompton4061 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Nightwish army -- the whole group is world-class -- floors singing abilitys are the stuff vocal coaches dream of and well she is a lovely lady too
@esaedvik
@esaedvik 3 жыл бұрын
Still amazes me to find people who've never heard of Nightwish xD Welcome! This is nearly child's play for him after Wintersun...
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@Suicideshakes
@Suicideshakes 6 ай бұрын
He's in my opinion, one of the best technical drummer EVER!
@katconley2995
@katconley2995 Жыл бұрын
Grab a listen to the whole band... it's amazingly worth it!
@jamesdrewel4057
@jamesdrewel4057 3 жыл бұрын
Original drummer was Jukka, who left from chronic insomnia 😥, completely different style of drummer, but awesome. Ghost Love Score 2013 Wakken shows off alot of his talent. Thanks.
@ryanedwardson6541
@ryanedwardson6541 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Both awesome in very different ways.
@deepthought426
@deepthought426 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the melodic style of Jukka. his drums sing notes. Kai doesn't even tune his rig properly
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
@@deepthought426 I think Kai and Jukka just wanted different sound. To me Jukka's playing was more human-like (evern so slight timing changes, uneven hit force) where Kai plays like a machine. I'm pretty sure Kai could play any way he likes so the sound he makes is probably fully intentional.
@deepthought426
@deepthought426 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikkoRantalainen I kinda agree that Kai plays like a machine - if only he tuned his rig. Jukka's wishmaster sounds like machine guns. Kai's wishmaster sounds hollow in comparison - too little tension on the batter head.
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
@@deepthought426 As far as I know, Kai was the drum technician for all the Nightwish studio albums that Jukka drummed so he actually tuned Jukka's drums for those songs! Therefore I must assume that the sound Kai currently has is fully intentional and not due lack of tuning.
@richardtomlin8704
@richardtomlin8704 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's a drum focussed site but I do think you need to watch the full result too because playing amazing is only really amazing if it fits in with what the rest of the band is doing and the song needs. The guitarist with this band, like Kai, is a good example of a skilled professional playing what the song needs not just showing what he can do. We only get a full appreciation of that when you see the whole.
@RonniePeterson
@RonniePeterson 3 жыл бұрын
Wintersun , Time. One of the greatest tracks of all time by any band in any genre. Oh and Kai on drums absolutely killing it like the rest of the band.
@johnlindquist1784
@johnlindquist1784 3 жыл бұрын
Kai is a beast! I've seen him do blast beats at a tempo of 180 - that's just insane. For a true introduction to Kai with Nightwish, check out "Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean" live in Buenos Aires, 2018.
@hajovelt3083
@hajovelt3083 3 жыл бұрын
Especially from "Sons of Winter an Stars" exists one or two drum-cam videos. Kai also called "a human metronome". Wintersun is his first Band before he gets an full member of Nightwish. He is a master of double-kick bass drum. Listen to him on the Wintersun-videos "Sons of Winter and Stars" and "Time". Breathtaking!
@artiemeyer8803
@artiemeyer8803 3 жыл бұрын
Kai Hahto warm up video is awesome
@pasit1738
@pasit1738 3 жыл бұрын
In case you don't the knowledge, Finland has the most metal band per capita in the world. Wiinner is a village of Lemi, population under 3000 and 13 metal bands! Some of them world famous.
@victorsupreme214
@victorsupreme214 3 жыл бұрын
TBH I thought it was Chile who had that distinction
@ladinark1672
@ladinark1672 3 жыл бұрын
No wonder it's called Lemi, I mean...you have to know who Lemi is anyway!
@pasit1738
@pasit1738 3 жыл бұрын
@@victorsupreme214 I'm glad you doubted my knowledge. I had to check it out. Yep, we're still the n:o 1 🤘🏻😄 www.geographyrealm.com/geography-of-heavy-metal-bands/
@pasit1738
@pasit1738 3 жыл бұрын
@@ladinark1672 😂 Yeah, there got to be a connection of a sort there!
@metalzonemt-2
@metalzonemt-2 3 жыл бұрын
@@ladinark1672 Yeah, for those who don't know, it's pronounced exactly the same way as "Lemmy."
@sonderoffizierguck
@sonderoffizierguck 3 жыл бұрын
Well, and now everyone is waiting for Sons of Winter and Stars by Wintersun. Everyone. Believe me.
@erikchristiansen1323
@erikchristiansen1323 3 жыл бұрын
I am not.
@billattercliffe8655
@billattercliffe8655 3 жыл бұрын
Since Wintersun and the London Philharmonic Orchestra have already been mentioned, I'll go in a bit of a different direction with "Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean" from Buenos Aires in 2018. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qphmpcKnpr-1YIU.html This is not a drum cam, rather you're seeing the song from the audience's perspective, but it does have some very good close-ups of Kai and it's also one of the more drum intensive Nightwish songs. It's an older song from 1998 that has been redone with their current vocalist, Floor Jansen. This was during their Decades tour where they revisited a lot of their older material.
@mbo191
@mbo191 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Yes, I'll second that! I'm sorry but I can't find the right word for it, saying that Kai is a machine, a beast, a monster, a metronome, whatever - it just isn't enough, it doesn't cover it all. Let's just say that he is Kai. Cheers / B.
@BBEDrummerAK
@BBEDrummerAK 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, getting to watch Kai at like 10% of his power. His Wintersun clips are awesome, then the even older Rotten Sound clips are absolutely absurd.
@exinferris
@exinferris 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, Kai goes RLRLRL on the straight 8-trips. The alternating lead doing singles is easier in the end, although Kaitsu is such a machine that he could probably do it any way he likes. Apart from the Wintersun stuff, which is of course legendary, you could also check out some of his Rotten Sound stuff - it's a bit more of the brutal grindcore variety, but it definitely showcases his chops.
@tccobden
@tccobden 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I actually prefer RLRLRL triplets with 8th notes over the top to trying to match 8ths over 16th notes on feet. Find it sounds nicer and more dynamic as well as more forgiving when the ear doesn't detect any accidental hand foot flamming
@KatzenJou
@KatzenJou 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting you mentioned left/right footed/handed, cause I only recently listened to an interview with Kai where he talks about how he practices. He mentioned he puts a lot into also training his non-dominant side in order to be able to play in a more versatile manner.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
That makes sense!
@k.l.7788
@k.l.7788 3 жыл бұрын
Kai likes jazz, and plays that also.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@mynanaleo
@mynanaleo 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, there are only snippets of drum cam from Nightwish's first drummer Jukka Nevalainen, who rode the set like a maniac jockey.
@pro-v7500
@pro-v7500 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously. He beat his kit like it owed him money.
@Donna-C
@Donna-C 3 жыл бұрын
😹
@scottb.4472
@scottb.4472 3 жыл бұрын
Jukka literally played his drum kit like he was driving a tank.....kinda like what Hannes dies on stage for real......lol
@kevinbrookover546
@kevinbrookover546 3 жыл бұрын
Just adding to that, Jukka has always been my favorite drummer, but he's more Jon Bonham , his kit has more low deep powerful tone with him thundering away back there, he's a live performer with a natural groove to his drumming, I wish there could be a reaction to him with NIGHTWISH , I would suggest Ghost Love Score from Wacken 2013 or maybe one of their heavier songs from Wacken like Romantide, Song of myself, or I want my tears back even, there are no bad songs from that show and the crowd was AMAZING!
@ianrossmusic
@ianrossmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I wish we had more drum-centric footage of Jukka as well. I like aspects of both drummers' playing... Kai has outrageous chops, while Jukka had that power and the ability to sit the pocket way back even while cruising along on the most metal tunes. I couldn't pick a favorite if you put a gun to me... Jukka wrote all that phenomenal stuff like the outro of Ghost Love Score for example, but then Kai and Marko took it to new heights live and made it basically my favorite moment in all of rock music. Gonna miss Marko... totally underrated on bass. Let these guys be their best drum selves.
@Santtumann
@Santtumann 3 жыл бұрын
Kai Hahto with Rotten Sound - Perfection
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to check it out!
@arturama8581
@arturama8581 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew. What you will see on stage is more of a family making music, than a handful of musicians. They're always smiling, joking, teasing and supporting eachother. Apart from being good musicians, they're just nice people. I wish you a nice ride with NW.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums Жыл бұрын
Yup this is amazing! I can feel the love and passion
@arturama8581
@arturama8581 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewRooneyDrums You really ought to see this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJl-fMmmldfapJs.html It's a reunion of Floor's class at the 'Rock Academy Tilburg' and it not only gives you a better understanding of Floor, but it also gives you a little taste of the band, by comments about Floor by Tuomas and Marko. (It's got English (and Finnish) subs)
@pro-v7500
@pro-v7500 3 жыл бұрын
“Is that tracks or is that a live orchestra?” - Tracks and also neither tracks nor live orchestra. The orchestral parts are a combination of back tracks recorded by the London Philharmonic (another group I forget) as well as synth patches by the keyboardist. Pleasant surprise here. Bit of a backstory/context to prep you before you start looking for a studio version of this song with Kai or something along those lines: Nightwish has been around for about 25 years. Original members all from Finland. Their main lane for most of that 25 years has been symphonic metal along side some power metal and folk metal. 95% of the music is written and composed by the keyboard most Tuomas Holopanein. Couple line up changes throughout the years: * vocalists in 2005 and again in 2013 * added full time 6th member in 2013 who plays everything (Irish bag pipes, flutes, whistles, guitar, bazuki, e-bow) * 2015 original drummer (Jukka) stepped down for medical reasons and asked Kai to take his spot Kai’s long time band is Wintersun and is still involved with it, but it’s fair to say his “full time band” is Nightwish. So I say all that to let you know any recording before 2015 of Nightwish won’t have Kai. Jukka was power and energy and Kai is precision and stamina. Live watching Jukka play, but technically speaking Kai is where it’s at. I’m not a drummer, but I enjoy professionals discussing their craft. New subscriber here. I love a good drum cam and look forward to more of what you got to offer. I highly recommend checking out some of their full tracks from live shows. Nightwish music is some of the most seemingly casual, but intricate music I’ve listen to in a long time. Shame songs over 3minutes never get radio play these days. Here are few rec’s to get you pushed in the right direction: Wembley 2015 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hMWamtyj0bWygJc.html - Shudder Before The Beautiful (Kai original) - Yours Is An Empty Hope (Kai original) - 7 Days To The Wolves (Jukka original)
@Dodgevair
@Dodgevair 3 жыл бұрын
So happy to see Kai get a bit of recognition here. He is in an awesome musical act. The Gavin Harrison of the genre is my thought. Thank you sir. He is tied down a bit with NW, but you should sample the Wintersun stuff. He cuts loose there.
@mbo191
@mbo191 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly how Kai plays a passage is not set in stone, it could be any kind of way depending on what he feels like on that day. Kai is ambidextrous, he is left handed from the start but when he started to learn how to play drums (1976?) he did it right handed just like everyone else. His drum kit is basically symmetric left and right side, Hi-Hat on the right is fixed closed, the left one has normal function. Cheers /B.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks B!
@mbo191
@mbo191 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewRooneyDrums - You are welcome! I was going to write more but something popped up and I had to cut it short, I'll bang it in now instead. I was listening to an interview with Kai Hahto a couple of days ago (for the second time), and he said that he usually learns how to play a song four ways just to keep himself interested (and challenged). First the "normal" way like a right handed drummer, then everything flipped over like a left handed drummer (explains the symmetric set-up, doesn't it?). The third way to play is crossed over diagonally and the fourth way is crossed over diagonally in the other direction. The Drum Cam video of "Weak Fantasy" has already been mentioned in other comments, from the same channel as this video (Antti Kangasaho). In the same interview Kai was asked what his favorite song was for improvisations and his answer was "Weak Fantasy". He knows the Lead-In bit and the Lead-Out to the song, but what he does between that is all a "spur-of-the-moment" thing. I believe he is improvising a bit in other songs too, the end of "Ghost Love Score" at Rock In Rio has a pretty massive outro. Kai is doing other things too in that song, like throwing his drumstick at a cymbal and catching it when it bounces back. Not just once but several times. Hope this didn't get too lengthy. Cheers / B.
@r.h.7633
@r.h.7633 3 жыл бұрын
I had a thought of starting drum lessons because I find it very fascinating, but this makes me drop the idea completely.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
No way... go for it :)
@penaarja
@penaarja 4 ай бұрын
Wow, nicely isoladed and drummer as well
@ChadSmithakaCCG
@ChadSmithakaCCG 2 жыл бұрын
That 50K subs award is legit. Well played sir, well played. I am really enjoying your reactions. Non-drummer fan.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chad! 🙌
@AudriusZu
@AudriusZu 3 жыл бұрын
Suns of winter and stars for full display of ability, cuz this right here you see him having a holiday 💯 😂
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
HAHA!
@fantsuh
@fantsuh 3 жыл бұрын
That IS insane
@WynEvans1
@WynEvans1 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 50k andy! You're good people
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wyn!
@MarStacey
@MarStacey 3 жыл бұрын
oh man. this isn't even scratching the surface. he's got so much headroom here. check out ANY Wintersun play through. He's a master.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
I will!
@niksur1201
@niksur1201 3 жыл бұрын
This is an older Nightwish song. Nightwish is awesome but to see Kai really work you need to see his drum cams from his other band, Winterson.
@ethanavery4750
@ethanavery4750 3 жыл бұрын
I always alternate, rlr, lrl, rlr, lrl.. thats also what he's doing in the video. If you just jog and play a straight 4/4 groove over the top of those triplets it starts to feel natural. That's probably the best way to learn how to play double bass. Jogging with straight 4/4 over the top.
@fruitproof115
@fruitproof115 3 жыл бұрын
For me as a guy who knows Nightwish and even the song it's really funny and strange to basically only here the drums on this one. But since lead singer Floor often steals the show with her otherwordly performances it is a refreshing new perspective! When it comes to Kai, it seems to me through the double kick and his usage of the toms as if he would play a "constant fill" through longer phases in many songs which fits really nicely to the high energy / metal style of the band.
@user-pw6pg1pf7w
@user-pw6pg1pf7w 6 күн бұрын
Kai hahto is a machine not a human 😊
@monluztrella
@monluztrella 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew! So the KZfaq algorithm is hellbent on throwing at me every Nightwish reaction video ever, and I just stumbled into this one. Most reaction videos focus on the same things but your perspective as a drummer is quite unique in the reaction videos world. I know absolutely nothing about drums but still managed to follow your commentary and I found it quite interesting, so I just subscribed to your channel! (Also, as an aside, your name sounded familiar and I just realized why... If I'm not mistaken, I went to school with your wife! Small world, huh? Tell her Almo says hi!)
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Genial! Que bien. Muchas gracias. Maite va a mandarte un mensaje :) Y gracias por tu commentario!
@tobiasjacobsen_dk
@tobiasjacobsen_dk 3 жыл бұрын
Kai hahto “Ghost love score” from the same Nightwish gig
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
I'll get there Tobias!
@michaelsmith2723
@michaelsmith2723 3 жыл бұрын
The London Philharmonic does their tracks. They love when they get to work Nightwish. Kai was also Jazz trained in NYC and he'd plays jazz in his off time.
@Idefixu
@Idefixu 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many Kai Hahto drum cam videos it's difficult to choose. Kai Hahto with Rotten Sound - "Perfection" (The name of the band tells a lot.) Crazy drumming!Kai Hahto warm-up solo. (I think it is during one of his drum clinics.) Licks and Tricks with Kai Hahto. (Kai explaining what exactly he does when he plays "Sons of Winter and Stars" with Wintersun - a 14 minute song, towel needed! I saw many suggestions you should react to that song, Live Rehearsal at The Sonic Pump Studios is a great version. There is a drum cam video of the song too and a video from at least one of his drum clinics as well.)
@sarawussow3123
@sarawussow3123 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Kai is a flipping machine! I would like to request you see the original drummer jukka he was an animal on the drums! Much love! ❤️🤘
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sara!
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
Nightwish uses orchestra backing tracks (arranged by Pip Williams and recorded from live orchestra) so all the players must play according to click track.
@HamsteroidOver
@HamsteroidOver 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video as always Andrew. For triplets personally I tend to go full single strokes cuz it's more comfortable to keep at it while adding tons of fills and accents in cymbals at the same time, but with a bit of practice it gets easier to do the same with heel-toe on the right foot in a 2-1 patern. Both ways work pretty well for tempo consistency. ;)
@renejensen7799
@renejensen7799 3 жыл бұрын
Kai Hahto is a amazing drummer.. and he is also part of one of my favorite bands.. another drummer that i watched drumcam on, is Jay Weinberger from Slipknot, that guy is a very good drummer to.. one to check out to if you didnt yet..
@marita2g
@marita2g 3 жыл бұрын
Would be so fun to see you react to the live performance of this too, see how its put together. Its seamless.!
@elinielsen5556
@elinielsen5556 3 жыл бұрын
Weak Fantasy from Tampere show is his first live show with Nightwish....or so I have read. He starts with a drum solo. Awesome!
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eli!
@corneliusantonius3108
@corneliusantonius3108 3 жыл бұрын
Kai Hahto, the human metronome 😎🐱‍👤👀 It is the London Philharmonic Orchestra on track. I kid you not.
@pedroRodriguesMD
@pedroRodriguesMD 10 ай бұрын
This songs drums were composed by the previous in 1999, Jukka Nevalainen, a groove master in drumms! And style. But Kai is doing it 99% perfect!!
@timopeiponen8707
@timopeiponen8707 3 жыл бұрын
DrumTalks is good channel. Kai is interwieved there😊
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kevinbrookover546
@kevinbrookover546 3 жыл бұрын
Kai was asked by Jukka the original drummer and founding member of NIGHTWISH to take over for him due to chronic insomnia, Kai has been Jukka's drum tech and they're close friends but very different types of drummers, Kai is more of the traditional ROCK drummer only extremely accurate with blinding speed and Jukka is more like John Bonham , he has a deep lower tone to his kit when he's thundering away back there and while Kai adds his own unique flair to it, but Jukka is a live performer," BOMBASTIC "with his facial expressions and exaggerated movements but the guys commenting here aren't hardly exaggerating about Kai's skill! watch him with Wintersun and you'll see that on display also he's got a video "LICKS AND TRICKS" where he shows you some of how he does certain parts, including swiveling his left foot to close the hi-hats while simultaneously playing double bass, it's mind blowing how he comes up with things in order to play what he wants to play
@OutOnTheTiles
@OutOnTheTiles 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. I was watching your John Bonham reaction vids. Love them and love Bonham. Greatest rock drummer in my opinion.Great job and I’ve hit the subscribed button. Cheers ✌️❤️🇨🇦
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
More Bonham coming very soon :)
@OutOnTheTiles
@OutOnTheTiles 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewRooneyDrums …. Great! I look forward to it. Bonham is just one of those drummers we’re never going to see again. You should check out a bootleg of Zeppelin playing Australia/New Zealand on their 1972 tour. They play Auckland (I believe you are from there?)and it’s a great gig. I think you’d enjoy it. The recording is solid for a bootleg …and it’s right here in KZfaq. Just have to search for it. Cheers ✌️
@davidhansen2748
@davidhansen2748 3 жыл бұрын
Nightwish plays to a backing track. London Philharmonic if I'm not mistaken. One thing I like about watching Nightwish live is that they all seem to be enjoying themselves, having fun, enjoying the music, each other, and the crowd. Always makes you wish you were there so you could be part of it as well. As others have mentioned, Kai is the second drummer for Nightwish. The original drummer, Jukka, had to leave for health reasons. You'll likely get a lot of suggestions to see him (Jukka) in action, but (to me) one of the most impressive is their live tribute to Pink Floyd (not really a cover, they kind of make it their own), "High Hopes". There was some turmoil in the band (this was the original singer's last concert, but she didn't know it. She was offstage for a wardrobe change during the number), and Jukka very clearly has a migraine. You won't hear it in his playing, but he shows it in his body language. The whole piece is very well done, and sounds great.
@wylepeyote
@wylepeyote 3 жыл бұрын
The way I play these patterns is RLRLRL with the triplet feel under the quarters on the hands…it’s classic double pattern.
@michaelsmith2723
@michaelsmith2723 3 жыл бұрын
Kai also uses his left heel to hit the high hat and bass together or at different time.
@wrenchbrewery3120
@wrenchbrewery3120 3 жыл бұрын
the fun part....kai was the drum tech on nightwish concerts....so when Jukka decided to retire he put the drum tech in the band
@musicfan9291
@musicfan9291 3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend you listening to Weak Fantasy live. The drums are not isolated but it still shows him off very well
@LycanWitch
@LycanWitch 2 жыл бұрын
clean isolation because nightwish plays for stadium sized crowds or festivals, so all their sound goes through sound engineers then out to the stadium PAs or whatever
@pauljohnson7382
@pauljohnson7382 Жыл бұрын
Know what's difficult for Kai?.. Sitting Still... Great Reaction! 👊
@nickfortin1675
@nickfortin1675 3 жыл бұрын
You definitely need to see Kai in the Wintersun - Sons of Winter and Stars at Sonic Pump Studio video! Not only for Kai but because it's a masterpiece!
@phix76
@phix76 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the Kai drum intro to Weak Fantasy live at Tampere.... Nightwish are awesome!
@stevegosciniak631
@stevegosciniak631 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding your double kick question. Personally I use 2 different approaches. I do alternate (triplets using single strokes) for an “in your face” feel. For more dynamic ( using ghost notes) I use Lrr.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Great info Steve!
@kevinbrookover546
@kevinbrookover546 2 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since you've done another Kai Hahto video, I think it would be fun if you did a double reaction because I also noticed you haven't done a reaction to NIGHTWISH yet, Kai is their drummer now, he was asked by Jukka Nevelainen their original drummer (who had to step down and retire from drumming in 2015 due to chronic insomnia) to take over for him as drummer for the band, Kai and Jukka have been close friends for years and he used to be the drum tech. for Jukka, who by the way is my favorite drummer and inspired me to get back into drumming . You've said you've never heard NIGHTWISH before so it would be interesting if you did a reaction to (NIGHTWISH GHOST LOVE SCORE at WACKEN 2013)and then (Kai Hahto drum cam GHOST LOVE SCORE) which is very good, it's him isolated on the drums during the song and compare the differences in style ( Kai adds his own special flare to it, especially at the end) it would be interesting to get your take on the differences, I don't think you've done a double reaction yet, might be something different and fun and you could see the entire band in all their overly talented glory on stage doing one of their signature songs in what I consider to be the gold standard for concerts when they headlined in front of 82,000 people that night but be prepared for Floor she has the most beautiful and powerful voices in music today!
@TrumOlle
@TrumOlle 3 жыл бұрын
To answer your question about 8th note triplets on double bass drums I would would say most drummers alternate right-left all the way through. I've experimented with playing LRR or RLR but I find it hard to keep the groove solid, but it's awesome for playing fast if you got your double strokes down. I'm pretty sure Kai alternates while playing 8th triplets and leads with his right foot when playing the patterns.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@catherinebeaudoin311
@catherinebeaudoin311 3 жыл бұрын
His performance in Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean with Nightwish, live in Buenos Aires in 2015
@muumiveikko
@muumiveikko 3 жыл бұрын
Gtreetings from Finland, Wintersun is my request too :) Kai is KIller, serialkiller to be excat :)
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Sone050
@Sone050 3 жыл бұрын
Finaly getting to the human metronome known as Kai Hahto you should check Nightwish live videos to hear all the awesomenes and also the earlier drummer Jukka
@perkeleenkanavittu8406
@perkeleenkanavittu8406 2 ай бұрын
when i play triplets with my feet it's just RLRLRL
@HypnoChode
@HypnoChode 3 жыл бұрын
Fishmaster!
@itsmeagain1745
@itsmeagain1745 3 жыл бұрын
It would be worth watching 'Licks and Tricks with Kai Hahto'. He shows some of the drum parts from the Time 1 album - Sons of Winter and Stars (and explains the sticking on the last part of the video for one of the riffs). kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eK19lat5zM3FYWw.html
@drsmith1231
@drsmith1231 3 жыл бұрын
When I first started using double kicks, i would always play triplets rlr rlr rlr.. Now as ive become more comfotable with them its easier to alternate to whatever pattern youre feeling. like rlr lrl rlr lrl...
@Kujis75
@Kujis75 3 жыл бұрын
Did you know that Kai Hahto is a drum teacher in his hometown Vaasa?
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Oh right on!
@reverieofmusic436
@reverieofmusic436 3 жыл бұрын
My foot pattern would be Right, Right, Left, Right, Left, and then repeat like that for the part at 4:10 or so, and just alternating RLRLRL when playing the part after that, straight-forward triplets. Hope that makes sense. Finland isn't considered part of Scandinavia, but it borders Sweden and Norway at the very top, so people often include it when talking about Scandinavia. Technically, it would be Fennoscandia.
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative comments. Didn't mean to lump Finland in with anyone!
@reverieofmusic436
@reverieofmusic436 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewRooneyDrums No worries at all! I'm not even Finnish, I'm Swedish. Just thought I'd clear it up since you asked. =)
@santoslhalper6116
@santoslhalper6116 3 жыл бұрын
What a fuckin awesome drummer!
@olivierlievens3950
@olivierlievens3950 7 ай бұрын
You might want to check out Wintersun, also with Kai on the drums: Sons of Winter and Stars.
@MrDrumhead33
@MrDrumhead33 3 жыл бұрын
As i started to play with one pendel and kept time on my left foot. I land on my left foot on the snare. So 6/8 i start with my right foot and 4/4 i start with my left
@susannebass5503
@susannebass5503 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! What's happening to me??? Loving other drummers besides Bonham 🤯 Well I'm a convert Andrew! Nice to see you picking vids not aways the patreons
@AndrewRooneyDrums
@AndrewRooneyDrums 3 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSSS!!!
@michaelsmith2723
@michaelsmith2723 3 жыл бұрын
Nightwish's original drummer Jukka is fun to watch, a real showman on the drums, and a hard hitter. He developed a severe insomnia problem and had to stop performing. Kai was asked by his good friend Kai to take over for him. Nightwish is a Symphonic Metal band and as a 70-year-old American fan of European bands especially Nightwish I haven't listened to much else (well I did add SK and Japanese metals) in music. I started out as an Elvis and BeachBoy fan. Lol. I am a big Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa fan as well. Kai's idol is Buddy Rich.
@rogerllerena6435
@rogerllerena6435 2 жыл бұрын
Kai is a machine.
@dimitrifox7
@dimitrifox7 3 жыл бұрын
You should check NIghtwish - Bloodstock 2018...the song is "Gethsemane "... @25:10 (of the full concert video) and see the reaction from Tuomas (in the back of the shot)...the man is so mechanically precise and accurate...great drummer
@anomis6619
@anomis6619 2 жыл бұрын
Kai is a great drummer. You could check "Gost Love Score" drumcam as well
@tanyabirdcherryfinland
@tanyabirdcherryfinland 2 жыл бұрын
Out drummer is his student!
@green7apocalyptica
@green7apocalyptica 3 жыл бұрын
Jukka was the first drummer in Nightwish and he performed Wishmaster before Kai😉
@clivematthews5296
@clivematthews5296 3 жыл бұрын
For a long one that really has him sweating try his previous band Wintersun with Sons of Winter and Stars. It's a banger !!
@js0988
@js0988 3 жыл бұрын
Nightwish, Kai Hahto's vacation place where he can go and relax and take it easy.
@marieskavo7159
@marieskavo7159 3 жыл бұрын
more NW and Kai Hahto pls. Try Ghost Live Score Live In Wacken 2013
@AngryBob4213
@AngryBob4213 3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily for a video, but check out the studio version of Wishmaster. It was actually their old drummer, Jukka Nevelainen back then, but a bar or two after the first guitar solo there's a super interesting tempo on a ride cymbal (I think? I'm not a drummer myself so I'm not 100% sure) that isn't in the live version here that I've always found fascinating! Also it's not out yet but Kai was the session drummer for Darkwoods My Betrothed's upcoming album (their first in like 20ish years) and it's black metal so he'll have lots of blast beats! I remember seeing a short clip of him in the studio but I don't remember if it was on yt or fb or where I saw it
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