Drumming MISTAKES in DRUM FILLS That KILL Your Progress (I did them all 😭)

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Drumming MISTAKES in Drum Fills That KILL Your Progress (I did them all 😭)
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I've made so many mistakes in my drum fills and drumming over the years that they're impossible to count. Each one affected my drum sound, the feel of my drum fills, and ultimately my ability to get hired as a professional drummer. Here's the deal...we ALL want to sound as good as possible on the drums, regardless of our drumming goals. So here are the biggest drum fill mistakes I've made and my students have made that have arrested our progress.
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@dagonzalez1757 2 жыл бұрын

I just wanna point out how hard it is to play something wrong on purpose. So kudos, Stephen.

@StephenTaylorDrums 2 жыл бұрын

If you practice hard one day you can be as terrible as me.

@Mat_1000 2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenTaylorDrums My dream is to, one day, play drums as bad as you! :D

@knightrider6473 2 жыл бұрын

I play bad with no trouble at all.

@69CamaroSS Жыл бұрын

I was thinking this SAME THING the entire video!!! #skillz

@t-man5196 Жыл бұрын

Yeah talk about a progress killer, literally taking time and effort to intentionally play wrong. It's like a progress reverser

@jc3drums916 Жыл бұрын

Wandering is common for complex fills - it was a revelation the first time I recorded myself playing the intro to Squib Cakes. Spent a lot of time with the click on 16th notes to clean it up. Rushing is the big one - fills are often slower than you think they are. And also coming out of a fill, sometimes the next note winds up being just a little bit late.

@TheLateBoyScout Жыл бұрын

Very helpful! I've done all of these, and still working to overcome most of them. The biggest challenge for me is coming out of a fill that leads into a new part/groove, and doing it cleanly.

@MajesticDemonLord Жыл бұрын

As a Metal Drummer, I'm feeling personally attacked by point 2. BLAST BEATS ARE ALWAYS APPROPRIATE. And point 6.

@myrealfakename6068 Жыл бұрын

🤘

@heraldjenkinsvii2176 Жыл бұрын

\M/

@chrismallios1621 Жыл бұрын

@MajesticDemonLord Try joining a church band. Just kidding! I totally get it. I'm just glad that 90% of those personal attacks refer to my past. I like to gradually sneek in my blast beat then end it before everyone notices. It works out better for me that way. Note that most common blast beats we hear nowadays are just double time on snare. I am trying the triple and quad time keeping on the snare as well. I don't want to be locked and stuck on one method or one constant fill ever again. An old friend of mine played one darn beat. He played it slow, medium, fast and wrecklessly rigid, with the same damn fill, in the same damn placement, every time. It was torture!. But he always assumed everyone liked this overdone method as much as he did.

@weinerballs1247 Жыл бұрын

The metal fills over the Latin beat would lowkey make a good metal intro

@StephenTaylorDrums 2 жыл бұрын

Subscribe or I will steal your cymbals: bit.ly/2AyH1Fb I've made so many mistakes in my drum fills and drumming over the years that they're impossible to count. Each one affected my drum sound, the feel of my drum fills, and ultimately my ability to get hired as a professional drummer. Here's the deal...we ALL want to sound as good as possible on the drums, regardless of our drumming goals. So here are the biggest drum fill mistakes I've made and my students have made that have arrested our progress. Check out the other videos in this series: Drumming Mistakes kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qc6YodScspvTiac.html Leave a comment below and let me know your thoughts!

@iansullivan9738 Жыл бұрын

Wait, need to put renter's insurance on them first.

@ricorlessons Жыл бұрын

The OCD'er used to be me. It just took more playing and exploring for me to get over that! Thanks for a great vid Stephen, love your teaching.

@DanGrossDrums 2 жыл бұрын

I call my primary issue "noodle arms" which is basically wanderer with chances of trip @ finish line. I'm 99% fine with single bar fills, it's drum breaks that can get me sometimes (have a couple charts in the swing band with 4 bar breaks in particular). Found I have to plot them out before-hand, but even then sometimes I work on different ideas and when it comes to playing them my arms decide to do both. Or my brain heads toward one notion and my arms decide another and I'm stuck telling myself "just please end on 1."

@basscancer 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely guilty of all of these and didn't realize until I started recording my playing. Great video!

@JordanBlue1 Жыл бұрын

“The Party Crasher” would actually make a sick jazz song.

@ceddyharris6340 Жыл бұрын

It reminds me of an old Slipknot song called Bitchslap

@JordanBlue1 Жыл бұрын

@@ceddyharris6340 oh wow! I just listened to it for the first time. It’s uncanny how similar. I wonder if that song inspired that part of the video 🤔

@dirtydave2691 Жыл бұрын

In my early days....82 to 87 I played long sweeping fills. Once I discovered patience and just laying back while playing my fills seem to mature. I guess I learned the less is more concept. However I can still drag out the end of a song on my toms.....much to the annoyance of my band mates! Great content on this video.

@billbigler1366 2 жыл бұрын

Superb lesson. I have been and still am guilty of them all. For me comes from not counting when first developing a fill. I just try to go by feel in the 16th note grid.

@Ganjahandler42 2 жыл бұрын

The video was actually very helpful, I can see what things I have been doing now and where I’ve been going wrong thankfully I don’t do all of them any more but I think most drummers have experienced doing all of them at some point😂

@1985mikebeers Жыл бұрын

That "Oh no" made me laugh every single time. Good video Stephen!

@CoraStanley-ue7rw Жыл бұрын

I was the ball hog for years. For years I would bury the kick on beat one and the rest of the fill was all hands. This last year or so, I have been working on incorporating my kick and hat foot into my playing more. I started simple with rlk rlh and from there began substituting the kick or hat into paradiddles, and other rudimental exercises. Gradually the kick began to work its way into my playing more and more and it opened up new worlds of possibilities in grooves and fills. Currently I am working on tightening up my internal dynamics between playing surfaces and using accenting more effectively.

@mikegonzales1901 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely the OCDer! I find myself wanting to play the same fills for certain songs everytime !

@Nmdixon-cu7vm 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, that party crasher fill you did would be really wicked on an unfinished pantera song or something. Lol.

@StephenTaylorDrums 2 жыл бұрын

Ha!

@babyjesuslovesme1219 Жыл бұрын

great video as always

@johnard100 2 жыл бұрын

Ok, as somebody who has been working on drums, off and on, for a couple of years, here is my 2 cents on what I have done to pretty much eliminate these mistakes. First thing, I have limited myself to simple 1, 1 1/2, and 2 beat fills, except for the 1/8 note build. For me, long, complicated fills seem to weaken the groove, which is the most important thing for a drummer to have. There is a whole world of possible fills in 2 beats, especially when you use the kick. Then, I spent a lot of time on each one, counting out loud, to the point where I never lose my place, except, of course, when learning a new one. Of course, always with the metronome setting the pace. My philosophy has been to learn simple fills really well, so that I don’t have to think about them, so they fit right into the groove, and don’t make me tense when play them. They feel good when I use them, fit into their slot, keeping the groove alive. By the way, I was in Stephen’s lesson program and can highly recommend it, if you are starting out on drums.

@richszmagaj9354 Жыл бұрын

Me: Lowers head. Slowly and silent walks away crying.

@joshhuders4751 2 жыл бұрын

The fact you can do all of these is unbelievable impressive, especially the first one!

@StephenTaylorDrums 2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Thanks!

@kilkaserco 2 жыл бұрын

Is it wrong that I want to drum like the party crasher 😂

@StephenTaylorDrums 2 жыл бұрын

😂🤣

@skillatar4572 Жыл бұрын

Same lol

@mghc7 2 жыл бұрын

It’s amazing on how you make the horrible fills.just still sound great,I hear where ya coming from brother on what your laying down

@1toonhead Жыл бұрын

As a audio engineer in live music, I have seen it all. I've never gone out of my way to make them feel bad for their mistakes too.

@juliaojapelto 2 жыл бұрын

I used to speed up at fills or didn’t land properly on the beat. When I realised that I began to avoid playing complex fills. Had to learn the hard way.

@user-tv2bk2ul9t Жыл бұрын

>Talks about not using your legs >Uses his left leg to hit hi-hat. As someone who's struggling to get my left leg working, I feel offended.

@fbeegle Жыл бұрын

Dude that overachiever costume killed me ... Lool

@jacobherring6445 Жыл бұрын

I typically try not to use my bass pedal during a tom fill. Simon Phillips had a masterclass about how the bass drum can muffle the full effect of a tom fill. But if I’m doing anything snare wise that might involve the hihat or needs accents, that kick comes on in

@marcusking8507 Жыл бұрын

6:10 and 6:19, where you missed out the snare, actually sounded quite cool!

@Poppa_Badger Жыл бұрын

The "all caps, the blabbermouth and the party crasher" seem to be the most common "techniques"!😂😂 I know so many drummers that think they have to be heard half way around the world and can actually ruin a good jam session.lol🤣😂👍🙏🙏🙏

@Jimmy_Cavallo 2 жыл бұрын

💥💥 Really great laugh 😆😆 Thanks. I needed it. 🤟🏼

@ArkaEasyRiders Жыл бұрын

I would possibly fall in the category of drummers playing as LITTLE drum fills as can be possible 😂

@blogityblah Жыл бұрын

I think I have and still do them all (sadly even after having taken lessons for years). This has just been the biggest overlooked area of my learning (practicing). I have never heard anyone articulate quite as well as you have.

@dageonyar 2 жыл бұрын

I never.... well, maybe a few.... yea, OK... all of them lol

@StephenTaylorDrums 2 жыл бұрын

Guilty

@jameswaddell3348 Жыл бұрын

I was the party crasher after hearing Vinnie Colaiuta, Dave Weckl, and Dennis Chambers. I had been playing drums for about 5 years, and was self taught. All i wanted to do was figure out the fills i heard these guys doing. The placements of where the fill started and came back in was all new to me. So playing in a Blues Band and a Hendrix trio back in the early 90's. It was me smiling and the other players quickly turning around with the "WTF" look!!! Talk about wrecking the groove!!! That was me.

@tarot_kitty586 2 жыл бұрын

That “oh no” voice kills me 😆 OCD’er guilty as charged, your honor. What’s the sentence for that?

@drumfynnfun Жыл бұрын

Very good analogies!

@chrisggoodwin777 2 жыл бұрын

I love how much effort it took for you to NOT use your bass drum foot during the Ball Hog 😂 (although you did sneak the hi hat in there 😉). You forgot one, the category under which I tend to fall: the lack of confidence to fill or solo. I'll lay down a tight, even, dynamic groove, but when the time comes to fill, it'll be painfully simple, or I'll just change dynamics with a hi hat wash or something. Soloing? It's borderline frightening

@StephenTaylorDrums 2 жыл бұрын

About to film an entire course on soloing for my students...you're def not alone here

@chrisggoodwin777 2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenTaylorDrums I look forward to checking it out 😁

@NominalTopic Жыл бұрын

I confess to doing the Wanderer on purpose to emphasize exactly that quality. Great video 👍

@robcusack8248 Жыл бұрын

I’m definitely struggling with returning to the beat after a fill at the moment. Taken a few weeks to see some tangible improvement but I’m getting there, I think 😂

@sxs4l245 Жыл бұрын

Best drum channel yet! Track stars made me laugh....!

@babyjesuslovesme1219 Жыл бұрын

all caps or that seinfeld episode where elaine’s author is using exclamations at the end of every sentence 😂😂

@TheXanaduL 2 жыл бұрын

Trip at the finish line, I (since health problems) seem to have trouble with this and tempo, even when I try to practice it, there doesnt seem to be much good progress even after practicing like crazy. My bands are great about it, but sometimes I do wonder when ill get sacked lol

@attempt58 Жыл бұрын

I used to only rush my fills, nothing else. But as I practiced counting while playing I overcame that pretty quick

@ianmusicstein 2 жыл бұрын

I am definitely guilty of the OCD'er and it is very much due to a lack of skill. Have been working on that, but a long way to go.

@AdventureIndiana Жыл бұрын

I somehow can make all these mistakes in same song. I once played drums at our church cause no one else would volunteer to do it. I thought “I’m so bad, surely someone else will step up just to not have to listen to me”. Well, I played for like 5 years 😀 it was all good. I still have 2 left hands and 2 left feet. I am surprised I am coordinated enough to walk and chew gum at same time. I enjoy drums tho. I never got my hand and feet to work independently. I enjoy all your videos

@massivecumshot Жыл бұрын

I'm impressed your wear spot on the snare is literally smaller than a dime. That's what I call stick control.

@magohipnosis Жыл бұрын

As a ska and jazz drummer I feel attacked

@Nightschism Жыл бұрын

Your intentionality in all of these made them sound cool, ngl

@alrich1250 2 жыл бұрын

I'm the wanderer and the party crasher at times. Love that A custom crash on your far right

@danielestrada8514 Жыл бұрын

Hi Stephen, thanks for the awesome content you put out there! I’m just getting back into drumming and I’m looking into a new drum kit, my first actually. Would there be any kits you would recommend?

@StephenTaylorDrums Жыл бұрын

Well, it depends on your budget. I just bought an entry level Ludwig Accent for a video I'm doing and it sounds great for the price. Under $600 for the full setup. It really all depends on your budget though. I've been pretty hot on ludwigs lately

@sbennettyt Жыл бұрын

All these apply to guitar too. LOL I once played with a guitarist who would play a lead fill and always loose his place and come back in on the wrong beat. Worst part he was oblivious to it. He didn't even know he was getting out of time.

@el.guitarmaniac295 Жыл бұрын

I'we met each and every kind of drummer you mentioned here😅😂😂😂

@Gibson-zq7tb Жыл бұрын

I started in December and I can play most songs that I want to but my fills could use some work. Most don’t flow too well.

@RetsuhcsJ13 Жыл бұрын

I’ve done the tripping at the finish line .. I’m gonna work on it

@knightrider6473 Жыл бұрын

I know I'm a terrible drummer when Stephens playing bad is way better than my best.

@jamesdunn5495 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes during rehearsals I will do the party crasher just to crack everyone up

@pedrorodriguez319 2 жыл бұрын

LOL Love the names

@letsgobrandon8271 Жыл бұрын

You can drum, but leave the party to us! Lol

@joshuaireland5510 Жыл бұрын

The ball hog example must been hard for you, I could still see the hi hat clicking under all the cringe 😂

@robertthompson5568 2 жыл бұрын

TRIP AT THE FINISH LINE. My problem is more with the transition back after laying into 1. I've probably dropped tons of 16th notes...😆 I get back to the right time but, there's definitely beats missing now and then after grandiose drum fills!

@ZXMaverick 2 жыл бұрын

I'm guilty af with the OCD one I do catch myself on autopilot at times lol

@IrishStoner 2 жыл бұрын

Inappropriate pfft Steve if you didn't want the wife to know about the hot number at that last gig..... lol

@Poppa_Badger Жыл бұрын

OMG!!! I had such a great laugh with the names and what they represent. I know so many drummers who make at least 2 or 3 of those mistakes and I'm going to be honest, but I'm the "Tripping over the finish line guy". I used to "trip over the finish line" alot until I REALLY began concentrating on rhythm and worked at it. And as they say, practice makes perfect (sorta lol)👍🙂💯💯💯🙏🙏🙏

@Poppa_Badger Жыл бұрын

Ok my brother drummer! I will drop you a quick line as soon as I have a moment to sit and why do you want to steal my cymbals?lol Actually, I have one that is quite special and I never take my eyes off it if I happen to be away from my kit.lol NO ONE will ever be able to pry that sucker outta my hands and I wish to be buried with it.lmao😂 NOOO! I'm only kidding, but it is a very rare 20"vintage Paiste crash. I've had many fellow drummers borrow it because of its incredible tone. Even a fellow, who already had about 15 cymbals, once used the cymbal because he said it gave a sound (the crash sound) like no there cymbal he had come across. Many others have told me the same thing and its mine so I know exactly how it sounds.lmao And yes, it has a great and full ring with a tone that is just amazing for "that big crash sound" and I've never come across anything that sounded better, even with larger cymbals. I'm not trying to sound boastful. I was just stoked to find out how rare and $$$ this cymbal is and all of the rest of my kit is regular, except for this ONE EXCEPTIONAL cymbal, made by Paiste, during their first year of production, that I am Blessed to have found many years ago.👍🙂🙏🙏🙏

@cardinaldriver 2 жыл бұрын

Alternating flam accentuation has been my bain for 30 years. Left handed departures to cymbals after a fill is part of the same problem. Dave Abruzese would kill these with Pearl Jam performances and I've been trying ever since Lollapalooza 1995 to get these tightened. Strength training for left arm will eventually get it right...hopefully. Funny, how many of us realized we were drummers with the "OCD'ER" being the first fill ever played, the first time on a kit?😄🤟

@dominicklos9532 Жыл бұрын

I bend towards the party crasher mistake; in some cases, it sounds okay but otherwise it is a common mistake i do make.

@Samford404 Жыл бұрын

I think these actually are good, everything has a place as long as it fits the song im all good, it all depends on that, I feel like this should've been a video about fill placement not progress on fills, these you used on this video probably have been played onto a song in wich they fit, besides maybe the ones that can't keep a consistent time, the rest can be used amazingly.

@StephenTaylorDrums Жыл бұрын

This video is about intentionality. Playing things we didn't intend to or we didn't know we were playing. Being aware of what we are doing and why. Context is another discussion we can only have after we have the ability to play what we want to play when we want to play it.

@morbidmanmusic 2 жыл бұрын

2 was a great drum part. As a drummer and composer, I jusmped right on that.

@Darkurge666 2 жыл бұрын

Speeding up on intense fills is something I'm definitely guilty of. 🙊 Which leads into having to wait to catch up with the correct beat afterwards.

@morbidmanmusic 2 жыл бұрын

More metronome at slow tempos. That will help a lot

@johnard100 2 жыл бұрын

Give your fills a KISS, keep it simple stupid.

@handyboen 2 жыл бұрын

😁😁👍👍👍 Thanks for the lesson Steph 😁👍 It's also funny 😁😁👍👍

@304clayjustice 2 жыл бұрын

Dynamics ppl!!!! Will get you hired or fired!!!! 😂

@raulsuazo5015 Жыл бұрын

Done all of these still struggling

@milesleblanc164 Жыл бұрын

Okay, I think a lot of them are definitely mistakes to improve on. But personally, I think The Mountain Climber has a spectrum to it. Sometimes it can definitely go wrong, but sometimes bringing the tempo back to get everyone to a good feel in the pocket is a nice thing to do. Feels better for the music.

@marcush5771 Жыл бұрын

The blabbermouth is essential for math rock though!

@GreenBoy9000 Жыл бұрын

4:33 those robotic MIDI files sound more expressive than that!

@TheGingerDrummer06 2 жыл бұрын

I just always do triplets I'm left handed on a right handed kit so I play open so I guess it's just easier to go around

@bigjules5139 2 жыл бұрын

Same here! I love playing triplets but it can really kill a groove when it's not wanted.

@christopherbozeman6333 2 жыл бұрын

All of them. It's hard for me to time all of it and have the right flow or technique.

@robduck4812 2 жыл бұрын

I'm with you bud. New drummer here too

@slayabouts 2 жыл бұрын

“Let me know in the comments which mistake you make the most” “Yes” “Yes what?” “All of them. Just imagine drum fills with 3 or more of those mistakes at the same time”

@slayabouts 2 жыл бұрын

But really, I’m pretty bad at getting lost because I’m trying to think about what to do creatively so I don’t sink into doing the same thing over and over again, usually making me wander or come out of it early or late

@Darthvexen Жыл бұрын

Sometimes mistakes leads to creative fills I recon but with structured fills I definitely agree with boosting your playing

@StephenTaylorDrums Жыл бұрын

Totally agree...mistakes can lead to great things. But...we can only know it's a mistake in the moment and fix it in the moment if we know how to do it correctly first. 100% agree with you though

@Darthvexen Жыл бұрын

@@StephenTaylorDrums couldn't agree more, it's why every drummer should keep at thier rudiments even if they don't want to progress to a super level of playing, and drummers who play after every fourth bar hurt 😂

@killiancarroll4241 2 жыл бұрын

Literally got a Stephen Taylor ad before the video and watched it all not realizing it was an ad

@StephenTaylorDrums 2 жыл бұрын

It's my version of the movie Inception

@Pele_Plays_Percussion 2 жыл бұрын

I got one both before and after this video

@killiancarroll4241 2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenTaylorDrums come back to reality, dom

@clemcadiddlehopper5706 Жыл бұрын

I feel attacked

@jemmrich Жыл бұрын

Oh no!

@Robinator-vh7rw 2 жыл бұрын

All caps high hat sent me 😂

@stevenm1075 2 жыл бұрын

I am ALL of these. See you in October at Camp. 😂😉 ☮️🥁💟

@henrybarbosa9711 2 жыл бұрын

I’m a trip and the finish liner🙋🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

@valentinevntokimov5965 Жыл бұрын

I started playing drums 🥁 3 days a go, I was making all those mistakes

@Somebody--- 2 жыл бұрын

Please please please can you do drivers license by Olivia Rodrigo on the drums...I would love to learn that.Keep up with the good work!

@DoomyDrummer83 Жыл бұрын

So basically just called Mat Graska a blabbermouth 😂🤣

@bigdaddy5150sh71 Жыл бұрын

Is it possible to be 3 of these? Yes, I have made it possible.

@mykneeshurt8393 Жыл бұрын

all of them.

@myrealfakename6068 Жыл бұрын

I actually enjoyed the party crasher. I guess I am an odd duck.

@domcruise274 Жыл бұрын

4 sounds like a Mars Volta verse and 5 sounds like a Mars Volta chorus

@bg357wg Жыл бұрын

Wanderers don’t exist! They’re just pulling off nested tuplet polyrhythms!

@pulseingrl2593 Жыл бұрын

What snare head is that

@lrngMathcom Жыл бұрын

And how to do it properly? Im always not good at drum fills. 😅

@nicoschmitt9857 Жыл бұрын

The Thief sounds a lot like prog-rock to me :D

@304clayjustice 2 жыл бұрын

🤦‍♂️ I think we all have made these mistakes or still do😉. I just try to stay in the pocket and play to to the song. And play every show as I’m playing the Nissan pavilion. You taught me that.