If you watched their streams - especially their apology for oversleeping - it was obvious that SOMETHING did happen and shion was super embarrassed about it. She very strongly told marine to NOT talk about what happened and why they overslept. Marine's description was of course very unreliable, but shion's reaction, and later her not at all being surprised by marine's statements and just replying "I dont remember what happened at night" means something did happen. The common consensus is that shion was curious, and there was some touching that went on for a while, but marine was too much of a bottom and didnt reciprocate, wanting shion to go further. But neither of them took the next step, so marine just mostly got teased very badly and remained unsatisfied. This apparently went on for many hours, and they ended up oversleeping by 4 hours. The next day marine tried to vent to her manager who told marine to not fool around with someone so much younger than her. edit - maybe I'm misremembering what the manager said - it cold have been "dont get played around by someone so much younger than you"

​@@PorungaSanthank you for expanding my knowledge. There's thin layer here. Did shion did it on purpose or did she did it unconsciously?

@@samikrungoken we may never know. It's very likely she was only semi conscious. But her embarrassment and exaggerated pretending to not remember anything means she remember what happened (or what almost happened). Either way - poor marine.

It was probably the Alkohol that made her do it...

@@PorungaSan you mentioning "3 years back" makes me feel old. Seems almost like it was just yesterday lol.

"It's not gay is no one finishes." -Marine probably

I’m gay and yes it is gay

I'm straight and that's why it's important to have redundancy in the electrical gri- Wait, what was I talking about?

No. So long as you cuddle like bros and kiss eachother to sleep. Thats what real straight bros do

No it's not,unless you were doing "the no no thingy" on the bed with that other person. Edit : kissing or cudling with the same gender is not gay at all unless you feel aroused and start doing "the no no"

Not sure if the hysterical laugh supposed to lessen or worsen the blow but either way it make me laugh every single time

And the last 40 minutes are just her repeating the same point while you hum every now and then.

For real. It was one night. Maybe less than an hour. In the same time frame, people have gotten over years long relationship breakups, broken engagements, failed marriages; while this still lives on in the back of Senchou’s mind. Shion must have some magic (heh) charm, Matsuri has also been pining for her for years. And these are just the ones public about it, among holomem there are still others who are very fond of Shion.

It's not all it's cracked up to be, especially when it's the wrong person lol You'd be dealing with their obsession for years. I wish I had someone as nice as Marine as my obsesser.

I think it's just the clippers who can translate it are mostly respectful. All you have to do is browse the comment sections for a bit on some of these and you can learn plenty.

​@MrDilwo I mean even if you wanted to clip everything they can take it down.

@@hungerxhunger2548 Sure they can, but it would require a staff or themselves sitting there watching through thousands upon thousands of clips to find ones "leaking stuff", which just isn't feasible.

Unless, perhaps, the "drinking" streams are part of the act, to entertain the fanbase.

@@seaglass3034 This is also very plausible. There's a lot of it that's scripted/acting, even marine herself said so.

Why's Peko got anything to do with this?

​@@emircanozad914because she's very close with senchou and both play along with each other silliness.

@@mercenary128v2 It sounds like she's one of those who can withstand Marine especially when she's drunk.

@@emircanozad914 Pekora's got more than just warcrimes in her repertoire, she's capable of deflecting and countering everything Marine throws at her.

Damn, Rushia was super valuable in times like this. They probably still talk plenty, but there's an irreplaceable void when it comes to having a streaming buddy for Marine, I imagine.

any of us who like Shion, we like her extremely

I remembered Matsuri and Senchou that loves for her for real real lmao

they say shes the most likable and popular person irl in hololive

@@simulationkoyo one of the youngest also. She got into hololive before the 18+ rule was implemented so she actually was hired when she's still 16 I believe lmao. Haachama, Shion and Laplus I believe is the youngest in Holo JP.

@@surekeen1012 isn't she the youngest?

Marine: "We were *this* close to greatness"

7:50

Press X to doubt...

“old” this proves hololive fans are all into kids lmao

@@dontstealmycontentplease for the context of the country she's in, 29 year old women are very much considered old when it comes to marriage.

@@crushingon why are you viewing age directly through marriage shes not gonna fuck you bro

Yes it is just roleplay..nothing to worry about..😂

That character is seggs, right? Right??

@@johnwalker5047 it's succ

It's not just Senchou. You can see guys in the comments here that even now don't understand Shion was doing dmg control from the beginning. Senchou never got the hint and neither did they. Prob the younger fans that don't get it.

@@Archedgar yeah like on 4:45, hmm senchou you sure can come to that conclusion, but instead shes using it to attack shion. personally, i dont (and we shouldnt) even want to talk or think about this because we're just viewers, and its up to those two ADULTS to handle their issues privately. but the fact they can casually* talk and joke about it, means its probably isnt that serious.

​@@usakenviWith openly talking you mean Marine talking about it lmao. As far as I remember Shion never mentioned it herself so I think she's trying to forget 😂

I think Senchou actually stopped denying that she's into women (like that) quite a while ago. I believe ever since she opened up more about "the woman she loved in high school" (who, I believe, was brought up again in this stream). Basically, Senchou is a lesbian (or bi) in theory, but she just has ZERO game, so she can't get any with women lmao

@@AnActualDinosaurShe’s also like, 10 years older than Shion lol.

@@AnActualDinosaur that's nice to hear, I remember seeing some clips of her a few years ago and getting big 'repressed sapphic' vibes

​@@gundamgames6092like okayu and korone.

I remember the moment, but upon watching that they can do this convo about said topic on stream, then maybe it's not so 'serious' that I had to get reminded everytime. I'm a viewer and I don't get to decide how hurt they are.

​@kanzaki2672 I mean it's been 2 years. I'm sure Marine has gotten over a large part of it. Though it was a really big deal and marine being marine she made it very clear she was not happy with it at all.

​@@Chuito12PRWhat happened back then?

@@kanzaki2672 I believe it's the only time we have seen someone in hololive talk about dating that seriously since she did go to her manager and try talking with her asking for advice but everyone told her not to. However, she is an entertainer and ultimately played it off really well with the audience, drawing the comic, going into her "horni" personality and so on. So I think she managed to play it off, and obviously they deal with anything serious behind the scenes, so as a viewer I think what you say is best. Enjoying the humour she intentionally has put out from the situation

​@@TheBeastInBlackShion spent the night over at Marine's place and they shared a bed together. According to Marine, Shion got very touchy feely with her and Marine just let it happen but she wasn't sure how serious Shion was so she did not reciprocate. Que the next morning and Marine woke up to find Shion sleeping on the sofa. Marine took her actions that night as something serious but that was not the mindset of Shion. This devasted Marine and I believe the two of them had a serious talk about it off stream. Shion denies doing anything but someone clearly happened that night.