Dryer Won't Start / Kenmore / What To Check and How To Fix

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5 жыл бұрын

Kenmore dryer wont start. Whirlpool dryer not working. Kenmore dryer not spinning. How to fix my dryer. In this video I show you the 3 most common problems when your Kenmore dryer wont start and how to test it and fix it.
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@handymanjourney 5 жыл бұрын

You can get new Kenmore Dryer Parts here: Kenmore Dryer Thermal Fuse: amzn.to/2Zd2Qpl Kenmore Dryer door switch: amzn.to/2UX9516 Kenmore Dryer Start Switch: amzn.to/2KCMnYi

@yadirezaee2275 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job , excellent video

@mikef072000 2 жыл бұрын

Does the Kenmore 110.85015100 have a Thermal Fuse??? If so can you tell me the location please?

@mmmfun77 2 жыл бұрын

Help...my 900 Series Kenmore dryer 's timer knob is locked! What do I do?

@teresamitol4067 2 жыл бұрын

@@yadirezaee2275 please play the video

@mrobvious1100 Жыл бұрын

Good morning can you recommend which part I would try and test if the dryer runs for hours and never gets hot. Do you have any videos on how to test that part

@suziekpaints1010 9 ай бұрын

46 year old single mom of 4 and you helped me fix my dryer! Godsend with a $5 fix. Thank you! I did it myself 😊

@handymanjourney 9 ай бұрын

This is so awesome to hear! I am so grateful this video was helpful! My mom was also a single mom and one memory I have of her is when we were younger she had our refrigerator out in the middle of the kitchen and she was fixing it so it means a lot to me that I was able to help you repair this for your family! Having your kids see you do this work yourself will mean a lot to them as well! Way to go!

@jhawkins4412 3 жыл бұрын

I liked the way he got straight to the point, no extra FLUFF or BS! Yay 😃

@2dogs3028 Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!

@HardRockMaster7577 8 ай бұрын

And no stupid background music !!!

@danfrank8938 20 күн бұрын

Fr bro. I don't need a backstory or any of that jazz. Just point and shoot

@be88 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You!!! Called a repair guy, he said 80 bux just to come look at it. Watched this video and lo and behold... Fixed it myself for 8 bux! Thank you! :)

@handymanjourney 3 жыл бұрын

Way to go! That's excellent!!

@diehardfan173 Жыл бұрын

So you don’t want to pay to keep professionals in business?

@nawnaw1749 Жыл бұрын

@@diehardfan173, save money, like most people want to.

@techtips6058 10 ай бұрын

Appliance repair guys are a rip off

@user-hc9lp3hb1r 6 ай бұрын

@@diehardfan173 These "professionals" will charge you $150 for a $15 part and then charge hourly rates that would make you think they are lawyers or doctors. These videos keep them honest.

@toyotech3329 2 ай бұрын

video posted 5 years ago and still a hero!!!! thanks for the updated link, Cheers!!!

@handymanjourney 2 ай бұрын

You're so welcome! So glad this was helpful for you!

@Katystinks 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video. The part you linked was only 5$ and it fixed my dryer completely. I really appreciate it. You saved me so much money that I would have spent on a repair man! I can’t thank you enough.

@handymanjourney 3 жыл бұрын

Congrats!! So glad this was helpful! If you can share my page on social media that would be great! Maybe some of my videos will help others aswell!

@normannolt9316 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic tutorial Thank you for the accurate and thorough information Got my dryer running in minutes 🙂

@Evangeline185 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Thank you! THANK YOU! My 25 year old dryer just quit and I thought I just had to bite the bullet and get a new one. I watched this video and decided to try a new thermal fuse and IT WORKED!🎉🎉

@daisybogado1437 9 ай бұрын

You’re the MAN! 4 years later, this video still helping people like me. Thermal switch was bad on my drier, bought a 3 pack from the Amazon link. Thank you much!

@handymanjourney 9 ай бұрын

Fantastic! I am so glad this was helpful!!

@rachelberry1623 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You so very much ! My Kenmore dryer is 26 years old, and I don't want to buy another, since they don't make them like they use to. Your instructions were so clear & easy to follow, I can't believe I fixed it by changing the thermal fuse. Thanks again for the terrific video !

@composingchef 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for this video! I just fixed my dryer, and it only cost me $1.61 and less than 10 minutes to repair! (That part was way cheaper than the $9 you originally said.) I recently had it serviced, at over $300 for a new belt and motor issues, then it just stopped a few weeks later. Yes, the belt and motor were the issue then, but I guess this time it was that thermal fuse. Now, I am not a "handyman" by any means, but you made this fix seem really easy to attempt, which it was. Thank you for that! I realize that this video is over a year old, but as you can see, it is still usable. Again, many thanks!

@misssniss 3 жыл бұрын

I can't thank you enough for for this video. Our dryer died on Sunday night. OMG. Insert freak out here. My husband works fifty billion hours a week. We have three kids. Four dogs. And a working hobby farm. I was hanging out clothes on the clothesline in 30 degree weather. 😑 There was much PG cursing... Then I found your vid... I followed your directions and was actually able to fix our dryer all by myself (thermal fuse replacement). I can do lots of things but appliance repair is def not on that list and I can't tell you how long it would've taken the hubster to get to it. You have saved the day. 🙏🙏

@handymanjourney 3 жыл бұрын

So awesome this helped!!

@eblydthansen 3 жыл бұрын

I can only add my thanks to what everyone else has said. So helpful! Easy to follow. My wife literally screamed when it turned on. 20 years strong and no freaking motherboard. They don’t make em like this anymore.

@rachelberry1623 3 жыл бұрын

Was your issue the Thermal Fuse ?

@craigdriskell5793 Жыл бұрын

It was the thermal switch just like you said. Got it off Amazon for $4.39. Easy to install and it gave me an excuse to dryvac all the dust behind the dryer. Thank you for this video!

@nathanstarr8359 3 жыл бұрын

You did an excellent professional job explaining to the audience how to fix a dryer of like-kind. Thank you!

@handymanjourney 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nathan! I appreciate it

@chk1115 6 ай бұрын

Thanks to your video, I opened up my dryer and saw that someone already had the bright idea of bypassing the thermal fuse for regular use. So thanks for helping me find the secret electrical hazard in the house!

@handymanjourney 6 ай бұрын

Glad I could help!

@alyssakrings6114 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video!!! I just fixed my own dryer by replacing the thermal fuse and now it works even better than before!

@handymanjourney 3 жыл бұрын

Yay! Great work! I. So glad this helped!

@cindylivezey1685 Жыл бұрын

Thanks… You saved me a bunch of money because I was able to use this video to replace the door “thingy.” Instead of paying for a service call and an up charge on the part - I paid less than $20 for two parts. The little “thingy” in the back was replaced but did not fix the issue. I don’t have an ohms meter - so I just replaced in order. You ROCK!😅

@handymanjourney Жыл бұрын

Great work! I am so glad this video was helpful for you!💪

@MelanFay Жыл бұрын

Thank You so much for this informative video, I fixed my dry in no time and for all of $4.96 total via Amazon. I felt so accomplished to complete the job myself and instead of buying a new dry(as I normally would) I decided to fix my own problem and I did just that! Thank You once again!!! 😊

@handymanjourney Жыл бұрын

Congratulations! I am so glad this video was helpful for you!

@janetkravig2433 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! That was helpful and we diagnosed the problem easily. Thank you for being so informative about appliances.

@danimcmay 2 жыл бұрын

So appreciative for your step by step instructions. Super Helpful--saved me alot of money by fixing it myself

@douglasolcott6891 2 жыл бұрын

You were right on about what was wrong with my old Kenmore dryer - the thermal fuse had blown, replacing it cost me all of $12 at a local appliance parts store and just an hour of my time, which was important because it stopped working the day before several generations of my family were showing up for Mother's Day, with some staying over which meant lots more laundry than usual. Carry on [fill in the blank]! still my favorite British comedy series that began just about the time that these washers and dryers were first being made for Sears-Roebuck.

@handymanjourney 2 жыл бұрын

Hey I. So glad this video was helpful! Have a great time with family!!

@danaallen3694 2 жыл бұрын

This video was a God send. I can't thank you enough for making this video and sharing the links for the parts. I ordered all three and mine turned out to be the door switch was broken. THANK YOU!!!

@ProdigalSon684 11 ай бұрын

Thank the Lord!

@c.brannan1782 2 жыл бұрын

You’re first of the three potential problems solved my issue. For $6.71 I will have my dryer up and running. You sir saved me $75.00 for a service call and made my wife very happy.

@handymanjourney 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!

@kma3706 3 жыл бұрын

Thank so much! I was able to fix my dryer by myself ! I love you, I had 2 people tell me to just buy a new dryer....you rock!

@theean 11 күн бұрын

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Watched this video yesterday, ordered the part, arrived and installed today. Working properly. Thank you.

@vinceveltri7732 5 жыл бұрын

Wish you would've elaborated the potential cause of the failed thermal fuse. In most of these issues the exhaust pipe/tubing probably had a partial blockage or may be too long. Unless the cause was fully rectified you'll need to replace the fuse again in another year or two.

@libbygeewhiz540 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! This is exactly what was wrong with my dryer and I really appreciate you showing how to use the multimeter. 😊

@kiopos4764 2 жыл бұрын

This video was definitely a life saver. It was the thermal fuse. Ordered from. Amazon and got it the next day. Prior to seeing this video, a dryer technician me charged $85/hr to look it!!!. I went to you tube and video popped right up .... Thanks again

@handymanjourney 2 жыл бұрын

I am so glad this was helpful!!

@a1boucher43 3 жыл бұрын

Great video concise and to the point. Really appreciate that when trying to solve a problem! Thanks

@tungdang6309 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip. Troubleshoot my dryer issue with the thermal fuse and saved a hundred. Much appreciated!

@brendanmullen2718 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video! I was able to troubleshoot and change the thermal fuse. The machine came back to life! So much better to change the fuse than scrap the whole machine 👍

@handymanjourney 2 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome, I'm so glad this video was helpful for you

@atxsol Жыл бұрын

This video saved me so much in terms of troubleshooting and paying an electrician. It was the thermal fuse, I learned about continuity and Kenmore is up and running again! Thanks!!!

@dougdotprototype Жыл бұрын

This video is great. Just fixed my dryer by replacing thermal fuse.Went through all steps, appreciate the great explanations.

@handymanjourney Жыл бұрын

I am so glad this video is helpful for you!

@MattRafferty1 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent you are the man! Thank you for saving me an expensive service call. I bought the thermal fuse without even checking it, and sure enough, that was the issue!

@gregwelsh1455 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, straight to the point and fixed my problem. Thank you!

@nicolebird8284 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the tutorial! I followed the steps, tested everything, ordered a dryer thermal fuse from your Amazon link, replaced it, and my dryer now works. Thank you very much for clear directions and video!

@handymanjourney Жыл бұрын

I am so glad this video was helpful for you! Your so welcome!

@raamaskadafi 4 ай бұрын

Awesome! Clear instructions, identified my issue (door sensor, which had been half failing for a year now), and now after $16 (the local appliance part store was open on a Sunday afternoon, I'm willing to pay the markup to have it today). Now I have a dryer that works even better than before!

@jasonhooper1057 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent. Helped me troubleshoot and found to be a faulty thermal fuse as well. Much appreciated.

@juliecardozo5653 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best DIY's that I have seen! thank you, thank you!

@grafton2 2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!! Changed the fuse and the dryer is working again! Anyone watching this - it was honestly really easy

@timray59 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, so simple a fix, great video. No wasted time, right to the fix. Thank you!

@sandrantn66 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. Fixed thermal fuse for 5.65. I am so happy!!

@MrMpwalkup Жыл бұрын

Great video. My wife and I were able to get it working with the $7 door switch replacement. Thank you!

@rhondaallan4680 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for doing these videos! I truly appreciate the lessons and the links. I like being able to fix my own stuff with help from you and many other handyman youtubers

@handymanjourney Ай бұрын

Your so welcome! I am glad this video was helpful!!

@ShermanWilliamsVideo 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! I replaced my thermal fuse and door switch and now it works again! You saved me a ton of money!

@handymanjourney 8 ай бұрын

So awesome! I am glad this video was helpful for you

@loren1955 3 жыл бұрын

Yea! Yea! Thanks so much. Spot on, replaced the thermal fuse and then the dryer worked.

@handymanjourney 3 жыл бұрын

So glad this was helpful for you!

@chuckbalogh296 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Complete and easy to follow.

@treblecleffman 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man first off, I thank you for taking the time to tell me the size of the screws. The two on the back cover were not 1/4 inch....but after rambling through me sockets but dude you inclusions of the links... Brilliant!

@MissNataLadyGlam 2 жыл бұрын

Watched your video, ordered the part linked in your description. And it WORKED!!!!! Thank you for this. Was able to fix my dryer myself thanks to you. Very pleased 😊😀

@handymanjourney 2 жыл бұрын

Great work! I am so glad this video was helpful!!

@abdulrahimabdulrahim4695 4 жыл бұрын

My Roper dryer was not working I order Thurmal fuse from Amazon & it works great Thank you

@kathyk8310 4 ай бұрын

Another happy viewer! Ordered the thermal fuse on Friday, it arrived Monday and I'm back in business! Thank you!

@mikebergen3375 3 жыл бұрын

WOW!!! thank you for making this video.. Just fixed mine... it was the t sensor like you shown in the video. It would not start so i took the thermal sensor wires on put them together as shown in the video and it started.. bingo.. now an under $5 part on amazon.. but the wife is not a happy wife with no dryer so i found a local store in Dallas that had it in stock fro $15 .... happy wife, happy life. :)

@guidocanales4976 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation, very simple to do .

@gordonehm4312 Жыл бұрын

Fixed my dryer for about $2 with the help of this video!!! Thanks!!

@scoutiecoyote5925 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for posting this,worked for me!!! I skipped the multimeter,just unplugged and changed out the thermal fuse!!!!

@handymanjourney 9 ай бұрын

Fantastic! I am glad this video was helpful for you!💪

@DT-VO 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Thermal fuse did the trick. I'm not too handy and your video made it easy. I also cleaned out the vent hose and it was packed with lint, which may have caused the fuse to blow in the first place(?) and now may have prevented a fire. So thanks again!

@handymanjourney 3 жыл бұрын

Way to go Dan! So glad this was helpful!!!

@fransiscoscaramanga674 3 жыл бұрын

thank you for the video, my kenmore gas dryer that looks very similar to the one in this video will not start.. i will take apart tomorrow and hopefully repair it. great video.

@Zomboinie 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro, videos like this are great resources, fixed my dryer just fine

@handymanjourney 4 жыл бұрын

Hey so awesome! So glad this helped!!

@krg7937 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting this. I was about to start a big disassembly effort when I decided to check the push button switch on your recommendation. The problem was just a loose connector on that switch.

@stubborntrudy 4 ай бұрын

thank you,..no REALLY, THANK YOU!. I just fixed my old 70 series Kenmore because you taught me how to do it! same model. I was for sure it was the door switch slammed too many times, so I started there...but, as you predicted # 1 problem, it WAS the thermal fuse. now I don't have to work extra shift to pay someone $200 to replace a $5.00 part 😂on a $50. dryer. 😄 Door switch $5.47, Thermal fuse $4.39, 1/4 inch tool for back screws $1.99, & a lil free ingenuity .😄AND now, 19 yrs of accumulated fire hazard lint is all vacuumed out & clean as a whistle. yes, really thank you.

@garcianguyen7232 4 жыл бұрын

Yahoo !!!!!, thanks a lot for your instructions, I replaced the thermal fuse and It works.

@handymanjourney 4 жыл бұрын

Hey so glad this helped!!! Thanks for your comment!

@mixz9929 4 жыл бұрын

By the way you did a great job running through this dryer and components 👏🏼👍🏻 thanks. Also subbed bro you are the man

@TopFlightEquestrian Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! We panicked when our Kenmore dryer stopped working but your video helped us diagnose the thermal fuse and your link to Amazon meant we ordered one very easily. Thank you again!

@handymanjourney Жыл бұрын

Your so welcome! I am glad this was helpful!!

@jachansen32 4 жыл бұрын

Figured out the problem and ordered the part within 15 minutes, thanks. I had no clue what I was doing.

@handymanjourney 4 жыл бұрын

Hey great work! Glad you could get it!

@robthebumsmasher1 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Very informative, my dryer is fixed and my gf thinks im amazing again!

@ManuelLopez-cp9nc 3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@juantrujillo4580 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou

@chuckadams1007 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Used my multimeter to determine that the thermal fuse was bad. Jumped it to make sure, (using all precautions, of course). I ordered one from your link. Thank you very much. This information is greatly appreciated.

@paulwells2417 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for giving me the confidence to do it my shelf. Works great !

@BigG86901 9 ай бұрын

This guy knows his stuff!! Thank you!!! I really appreciate the info on how to use the multi meter. Thank you.

@handymanjourney 9 ай бұрын

Your welcome!

@sdp123abcdefg 2 жыл бұрын

I know this isn't new but thanks so much! Fixed my grandmother's dryer which hasn't been working in a year!

@bowhunting1013 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Allen will be putting this to use in the future , keep the videos coming

@handymanjourney 5 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks Steve! I appreciate your comment!

@kennybruce2281 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Thermal fuse replacement for less than $5. Saved me hundreds of $$$.

@GonewithRob 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Thermal Fuse was my culprit, but tested other parts to learn something!

@handymanjourney 4 жыл бұрын

Way to go! Glad you got it figured out!!

@jessel8833 7 ай бұрын

Dude, you're fantastic! Thanks for the help! I never mind paying professionals to fix things. I'm busy with my own projects. But, when you can't get ahold of anyone, either I have to do it myself, or have my guys do it. The instructional simple steps are incredibly helpful. Thanks so much!!

@handymanjourney 7 ай бұрын

Your so welcome! I am glad I could be helpful!

@stevekenley9233 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video , Thank you for the tips you saved me a lot time and money on my Kenmore electric dryer..

@ManuelHernandez-sj5xx 9 ай бұрын

Thanks to this video I fix my kenmore 80 series dryer!!!!

@handymanjourney 9 ай бұрын

Fantastic! I am glad this was helpful!

@jwilly160 5 ай бұрын

$7 and the dryer is back in business. Thanks for a great video!

@handymanjourney 5 ай бұрын

Fantastic! You are so welcome!💯

@markteubert489 4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for this. My issue was the thermal fuse. Fixed for under $10 thanks to you! Cheers!!!!

@cowlinghouse355 4 ай бұрын

Thanks a ton for how well you explained everything and for the links on parts.

@SmokeDawg-yx4hu 11 ай бұрын

Awesome, i had a thermal fuse already from a kit that i bought . Just unplugged the dryer switched it out and boom it worked. Thanks

@handymanjourney 11 ай бұрын

Awesome work! Glad this video helped!

@Mi-AudioLab 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir, you saved me a lot of time.

@carmensteatime4543 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! A $6 part and the dryer is fixed! What a sweet sound…

@peterchannelpeter8581 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. You saved me a headache. Thermal fuse was the issue. Thank you.

@handymanjourney 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

@missterry428 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I don't have the tools to test but i just ordered the thermal fuse it will be here tomorrow and ill change it Thursday. I hope it works because i just love this old dryer!

@missterry428 2 жыл бұрын

It worked it worked thank you very much!

@slatergrrl Жыл бұрын

Thank you SOO Much!!!! You are easy to understand and your step by step instructions are perfect for someone with absolutely no idea of what they are doing >:)

@handymanjourney Жыл бұрын

Your welcome! I am glad this video was helpful for you!

@danielruiz3853 2 жыл бұрын

thank you man, replaced the thermal fuse, and door switch, saved my mom $400 plus. i will never get rid of this set.

@tyz68 6 ай бұрын

Found this video, check the thermal fuse and that was it. Followed link and got one ordered! Thanks for your help! Made troubleshooting and repair super easy!!!

@handymanjourney 6 ай бұрын

Your so welcome!

@oliverorange550 2 жыл бұрын

I watched your video and was thrilled....i went though all the tests and everything was working. I figured it was junk. To my amazement my wife called me several hours later and said "did you check the belt?" I said no and if the belt was broken it would start and just not spin. At least that is what I thought. She checked and found the broken belt. When I came home I pulled it apart and found that when the belt breaks the idler pulley retreats and shuts off a kill switch. How can you not say check the belt first in your video. It might not be a top three, which the parts vendor said it is number two with problems. Please update you video or place a notice so that us ignorant repair (myself, not my wife) have a better understanding. I do appreciate your time and efforts. Thank you

@russellmoreau8847 2 жыл бұрын

he did mention the belt switch

@kristitahada5594 2 жыл бұрын

Wish I'd seen this before I spent a bundle on a repair job fixing exactly what you described!

@risuenor 5 жыл бұрын

LOVELY EXPLANATION .. THANK YOU

@handymanjourney 5 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome!

@davethezonie912 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with J Hawkins. You got right to the point. My issue was the door switch. I didn't even know I had one. I figured there must be one but could never see it. Thanks for going over these 3 items so quickly and thoroughly.

@sallyclark8942 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Very clear and helpful!

@angeliquemoore9447 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saving us money .Our dryer is fixed . It was the door latch sensor.

@alexflores8293 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for sharing your video is really very helpful and easy and clear to understand for people that don't know about appliances thanks 🙏.

@handymanjourney 2 жыл бұрын

I am so glad this video was helpful for you!

@SohCahToa30 3 жыл бұрын

Bro, you answered question that I had and didn't have. Thanks for being awesome!

@handymanjourney 3 жыл бұрын

So glad this was helpful!

@PeteRichF 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you So much for saving us so much time showing the shortcut to fix the dryer have a blessed day

@handymanjourney 2 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome Pete! I am so glad this helped you!

@geodome5857 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information!!! I replace the thermal fuse, and my old Kenmore is working again!!!

@Dontlookatiteatit 5 жыл бұрын

Just discovered this channel. You’re awesome brother. Great content.

@handymanjourney 5 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for your comment and for watching!

@JohnMartin-yj3gv 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, thank you, thank you went with the thermal fuse and did a good cleaning as well. Works like a charm!

@handymanjourney 8 ай бұрын

Fantastic! I'm so glad this video solved your problem

@SamJahshan 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Very informative and detailed.

@handymanjourney 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad this was helpful for you!

@TwcFan 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! That was the reason the dryer will not start. You helped me saved my mother about $100 something dollars. It was my dumb brain that I thought it didn't work because it wasn't connected. LOL!

@handymanjourney 4 жыл бұрын

Hey so glad this could help!