Well, you can't get 2 Italian brothers today to agree on how to make a pizza, so what do you expect....

There were no Italians in the 16th century.

@@WilhelmDrake Don't be pedantic. It was simpler, and much easier understood, than naming two towns a lot of people haven't heard of.

@@WilhelmDrake There was no Italy as a nation, but there definitely were Italians. In fact, Silver wrote quite fervently against them (in 1599) :)

@667Gullin What? The concept of "Italian", in the sense of a unified people, definitely existed in the middle ages. Both Dante and Petrarca can't seem to stop talking about it

Indeed. Nevermind the number of feats you have to expend.

It also isn't as good at later levels in comparison with great weapon master. Unless you make a crit fishing fighter, in which case it may be more effective.

It was historically common in duels, just not in battles

@Cliven Longsight I also saw someone mentioned dual wielding being used in european battle under Lindybeige's video about dual wielding. Can't bother to unroll 5000 comments there and ctrl + F, but it was about either scottish or irish people

@@Kubaaa555 the might be historical sources which mention dual wielding. But this doesnt mean that is was common nor that it was effective.

It totally is

Shield, buckler, dagger - it's all dual wielding. Not uncommon for longsworders to struggle more with S&B than just the single arming sword when they first try it.

Nah one is dps and other is tanking

Bob MiLaplace but you are literally wielding the two of them.

Winner

From the Metatron? I suppose a new historical KZfaqr meme has born.

Or religious.

Kali uses dual wielding weapons from dual swords to dual knifes or sword and knife

The vaselines - monster pussy

But he's not even using a katzbalger!

Speaking of, you could dual wield cats for an octo wield?

The primary weapon of every martial art is Phaedrus' Knife?

Interesting

That's what I learned when I practiced japanese ju-jutsu as well; the first years you simply learn all the basics (two-ish times training a week). That is, the techniques in stand-alone format. When you get closer to the black belt, you start to "freehand" it at some sessions to learn the various situations you can use the techniques in. Basically, the attacker attacks however he wants and you defend yourself however you want. With 30 or so techniques at hand, you quickly learn which ones are for heritage to the japanese martial art, which ones are actually effective in a real scenario, and which ones are best left to armored combat.

Yup. In fact if you look at mixed HEMA matches using different styles, much like MMA unarmed matches.........the vast differences tend to narrow down to what's actually practical in reality and they all start to blur together. That being said....people need to learn SOME system just as a point of reference for training. You can't really train a skill if you never do the same thing twice. That's the value of various systems. At some point in time there were NO systems of any kind.......and people just made them up.

Having trained in Silver's backsword technique, where you use the true guardant form (E.g. For a right hander, right arm pointing forward, slightly bent and with your blade pointing downwards but slightly forwards towards you left knee and the basket presented to your opponent just above eye level). It's a very effective defence, but takes a long time to master. This is because your arm isn't used to being put in that type of awkward position, it feels counter-intuitive. It takes a while for you muscles to develop so that you can hold the form, you do see most people hold it for a short while then revert to a Stocatta like position or sword lowered pointing at your opponent, arm not quite straight out but more relaxed. It's a more comfortable position and you can hold it for quite a while. However, it invites binding, though is good for the trust if you time it right. Unlike in some techniques where you blades touch and you try to feel your opponents blade to sense their intent. Silver was adamant not to present your blade in this way. Apart from being too "Rapier-ish", it is too easy to bind the blade. So unlike Sabre, and Matt is probably going to tell me I'm wrong, Silver's technique was a more thorough form of martial art in that your sword was just part of the story, as you use your off-hand in an offensive or defensive manner for punching, grappling, or binding your opponent's blade and not forgetting a good kick to the cobs! Basically do anything to win, whilst not being counter-hit. Silver's techniques aren't pretty unlike some to watch, but I think they were effective for the time, especially against a Rapier-ist.

Mine too, as a teenager. I should probably revisit them.

@@scholagladiatoria Bob Salvatore has a new trilogy going back into Zaknafein, Jarlaxle back story...and Zaknafein has been resurrected and is back adventuring with Drizzt. Still good stuff.

@@jasonr5989 What!? What's it called!?

i came looking for this comment. such an awesome series.

That's when I read them as well! I started re-reading them all this year at age 27 and I'm enjoying it a lot. And thanks for all your great content Matt!

When you're dual-wielding, you have a higher chance of collateral damage being inside the house than the garage I'd think.

@@Jazzman-bj9fq that`s for sure! :P

historically in that situation, you'd see such soldiers with one long weapon like a montante that can keep multiple attackers at range while leaving minimal openings. unless two attackers are standing directly in front of you, you aren't swinging both arms out in opposite directions with two swords and leaving your center entirely exposed.

Indeed. I have noticed that pretty much any completely uncontroversial video on any channel still gets minimum 1% down votes. The only time it doesn't happen is very small niche interest channels. You would think this was a niche subject but the channel is now too big for down vote immunity.

Best guess? Weaboo anime fans who can't stand the thought of cartoonish dual weilding not being a thing.

my guess would be accidents too. or some kind of mood variations when you just hate everyone around you and, well… I think Matt has a quite low downvote percentage compared to most other channels, actually… anyway, upto 2% downvotes I don't attribute it to the quality of the content or its reception. it's only when it gets higher I start to think about what could be the reasons behind it

@@kevingooley9628 if im allowed to expand upon you They feel offended because it wasn't a thing on Battlefield

The actual style is Hyoho Niten Ichi-ryu. He didn't only taught use of the daisho, but single sword, short sword, two swords, quarterstaff, jujutsu and truncheon (from which he allegedly developped his use of the two swords incidentally, nothing to do with portuguese - japanese were known to wield the daisho at least a hundred years before 1543, see TSKSR for instance). He taught all these as a complete coherent system. By the time you are learning two swords, you should mostly be applying the stuff you have learned in the previous parts of the curriculum rather than getting new concepts, it's only for techniques wise. The core of HNIR isn't dual wielding but a specific way of moving and the use of timing, especially what's referred to as "sen no sen". It's a myopic view to think that Musashi taught "dual-wielding". Also he most certainly did used two swords during the end of his fighting against the Yoshioka family. Musashi must have been a talented fencer, he came from a family of fencers and teachers, his style had several off-shots and managed to survive right up until the modern world which is no small feat considering only something like 1 in 8 schools or so did in the Meiji era. His style was also represented in the early Tokyo Metropolitan Police. He was a famed master, but in his time he certainly was only one amonst many, after more than a century of intense fighting, people skilled with a blade wasn't a thing the country was in any sort of shortage.

Should have spent more time training in the use of AA batteries.

@El Bearsidente sword and dagger aka katana and wakizashi likely date back further than the portuguese contact and also, two katana were probably used together as some point before Musashi, because remember what Matt says, he invented a style and founded a school, not really the idea of dual wielding

@@theghosthero6173 So it's possible that the rapier + main gauche combo was inspired by the Japanese use of the Daisho?

Yeah if you actually read Musashis book, he makes a much bigger point out of being able to just use one katana one handed effectively (which isn't that easy TBH) than he does dual-wielding.

People for eating tasty animals? Is a cat tasty?

He tried to convince lucy to let him write a chapter on cat skinning for her cat care book but she was rightly concerned for Catt Easton's safety

@@polyommata lol

@@tbjtbj4786 where I'm from, the grocery stores that sell rabbit are required to leave the feet and tail on the carcass to show that it isn't a dead cat being sold. Apparently, they both look very alike with no skin. So, I guess cats are at least as tasty as rabbits. Idk personally. Never had either one. Lol

@@sandeman1776 people that sell racoons here do the same thing with the feet. Well if it taste like rabbit it's good. Rabbit one of my favorite wild foods.

Maybe one really big fork would be better, but I like to parry mushrooms with one fork and wind pasta with the other.

Yes, it's an idiom in English (not just British English, also American). Not commonly used now for obvious reasons.

@@VideoMask93 It's commonly used in the UK. It's not something you'd have opportunity to say every day, but it's used. I hear it less in Merseyside than Yorkshire, though, so I think it depends on where you live and what sort of company you keep.

Dude, you have never lied

„Hey Siri“ is way worse 😂 Siri reacts to things that don‘t even sound like „Hey siri“

Right, most combatants would tend to strike with one sword and use the other to block incoming blows. I think it'd be hard for our brains to coordinate simultaneous attacks with a sword in each hand. Wielding a shield is easier to handle, can block blows, and also be used as a weapon in it's own right.

@ scholagladiatoria

It's a style that had to be learned, usually after one has learned to use one sword. Consequently, dual wielding is an advanced technique, whatever style or weapons used. You have to learn another set of skills, and that takes time and practice.

@@BigHenFor So in other words - it is good if you are skilled. It's not just for "showing off"

@Gerben van Straaten Then how to call an usage of sword + dagger or rapier + dagger if not dual wielding?

If someone is a master of that style they are as dangerous as any master of martial art is. I guess it's unpopularity is because of high threshold of competence. It takes lots of practice and experience to be good at that and someone using less complex method is gaining competence faster. Two-weapon fighting in numbers: 1, 2, 3, 4..until master at ten Single weapon fighting: 1, 3, 5, 8, 8,...until master at ten

Sometimes. Other times you have to use band-aids in your fingers.

And after this the sword goes for a walk with its dog

Win94ae Rapier and Parrying Dagger is a well documented historical weapon set, primarily in civilian use. The French called the dagger Main Gauche (left hand in French) but there is a large variation in form. The archetypal French Main Gauche is particularly long with fairy stout hand protection.

Thank you!

Lol, nice one.

...damn you Drizzt! At least Artemis Entari's dual wileding is pactical, sword and dagger not two scimitars.

Well, when you put a practitioner of any of these arts into a competition with the same rule set (MMA competition for example) there is convergence in the fighting styles. The most effective techniques come to the fore. The reason why styles look different across the globe are normally due to the limits of the associated competition style.

Yes, Thailand's Buddhaisawan school begins by teaching dual swords

I believe that is a Maori(?) war club. You might be able to dual-wield it.

You never pair a mature cheddar on the offence with a runny blue as defence?

Ah maybe it doubles up as a cheeseboard when not using it in war. Cheers.

I suppose it could have a treble use as a paddle.

Never mind about why would you use two swords, why would you use a cheeseboard as a war club ?

rapier and dagger

Tripple AAA is AAA AAA AAA?

Better in what way?

@@scholagladiatoria in penetrating clothing or mail for example.

Lol. Classic question and classic answer (in any area, professional or not). Q: is X better at Y than Z? A: It is complex. Lesson to be learned. Never ask if something is better. Maybe ask: Q: What are the differences between X and Z when Y. A: I will have to do a video about that...

Its better and not better at the same time. I hope thag answered ur question.

The best penetrating thing will always be that with a sharper point, stiffer blade/shaft, applied with more energy. If you want to penetrate the Earth for example, use a mining drill. For penetrating armour, you choose a weapon specialised for penetrating armour.

No.

@@BigHenFor Good point, well made.

The point of learning how to fight is to survive the fight you get into. That means developing technique which works against the range of weapons and fighting styles you are likely to encounter. It wouldn't make sense to practice massed pike-against-cavalry tactics if you are a sailor or use a radically curved shotel designed to work around the opponent's shield if your opponents favor the longsword

My two handed sword welcome's your shield....

@@Xterminate13 my bow is waiting for your twohanded sword ;)

*Foolish

But my swords ARE sheilds!

Swept hilts and basket hilts fill the role of handguard well enough. To mount a buckler onto a sword would probably throw off the balance way too much.

Not necessarily, it depends on your style and weapon employed.

An extreme example I found on google kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zqd5iKlnzqm0mmQ.html

I’m learning kali right now and being almost ambidextrous I’m loving duelweilding. If I were to pick up hema/fencing does anyone know what rapier and saber style might be good for my idea I feel like it’d be close to espada and daga from kali. I’d train rapier left handed and saber right, my leg muscle inserts allows me to lunge farther left handed

Using a great sword 1 hand was already a very unbalance thing to do.You need to put the sword down in order to use the small dagger in the other hand to parry and there's no way you could lift the the sword up in time to hit the opponent while they are losing balance (in case you could even parry them with the dagger in the first place) Those ringed knight dual greatswords......well,they spark fire while swinging and there's no way a human could handle that kind of heat,also,you couldn't even lift 1 greatsword with 1 hand properly not to mention 2 hands 2 greatswords

Jake The Asian Guy I would probably replace the Farron ultra itself with a hand and half sword when doing Moveset recreations, but thanks for the insights

@@jaketheasianguy3307 Funnily enough Matt has an older video of him wielding a greatsword in one hand. You can do it, it's just exhausting, wouldn't recommend duel wielding them though.

I def suggest you look into your roots,

dual rapiers is very good... in a dueling scenario. outside of that a shorter shank as secondary weapon is better because of the utility: narrow corridor defense, taking hostages, grappling & shaking.

You can just throw one of the swords and hope the pommel hits your opponent in the head.

Yeah, and I'm guessing a lot of dual-wielding in those situations is motivated by either 1) I'm so awesome I can dual-wield (so it's partly an intimidation tactic) or 2) the current situation doesn't let me carry a shield or buckler but I do have a second weapon so I'm using it as a hard defensive object. Or possibly a combination of both.

I doubt it. It would gimp you more than it would someone more used to fighting in general. I'd say the pictures are mostly about skilled swordsmen doing a performance-type fight with a fancy and uncommon weapon combination. Godinho's twin swords on the other hand is all about self-defense (or guarding a VIP) against many opponents, less about winning a fight per-ce and more about preventing numerous opponents from getting close enough to harm you. He also mentions people choosing to carry two swords as their main implement of defense, so I'd wager a guess that dual-wielding was more common in the Iberian peninsula than in the rest of the Europe. Kali with its undeniable Spanish influence also suggests that. Manciolino's twin-swords assault is in my opinion simply an evolution of his school's sword and dagger for students able to handle two long weapons, it works similarly but with two swords of equal length you can work all of the techniques from either side.

It could also be a gimmick to sell more treatises/classes, a way of saying, "If you learn from me, you too can learn how dual wield and be a badass, just like me". After all, the authors of these treatises weren't writing them just for the sake of doing so or to pass on down to posterity, they were doing so to make a name for themselves and/or to make money from selling these treatises or lessons from them. So what better way to promote yourself than to include special or "secret" techniques that you can learn only from this particular master?

They are depictions in Asia of Persian, Japanese Chinese and Thai going into battle with two sword, sometimes two mace or truncheon (rarely axe). It is equally seen from horseback as on foot. Sadly now only Korea and Japan have paired sword manuscript, but that is likely to do with Thailand lacking a lot in terms of writing books. Let's talk about Thailand also, they seem to historically be the most connected with dual wielding, with one king making it its specifically. Still to this day Krabi krabong (sword and stick) as well as its Burmese, lao and Cambodian relative are huge martial art putting large emphasis on dual wielding which can also be seen on some art pieces produced by them in the past, yet they are always out of this discussion

@@digitaljanus Or dual wield is just one of best combos possible if fencer is skilled. That's what people who doing alot of sparrings often says. "Dual wield is bad" is one of those european HEMA myths along with "straight swords cut as good as curved", "spear is better than sword and shield", etc

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@@juliahenriques210 lanskenect emporium?

@@erichusayn Yep.

Landsknecht Emporium from Hungary

@@scholagladiatoria thanks! Gotta get me one of those.

Yes, generally.

this is how it was done most of the time. Rapier + Main Gauche, Katana + Wakizashi its a lot of hard training and you must train with 2 of the heavy swords so your arms get used to the beating you are going to give them dual wielding. dual rapier is my personal favorite, its a lot like boxing in a sense. but in war? in war you want most of your options open so its better to have a long weapon for the battlefield and a short weapon for hostage taking.